♪ >> from nbc news, this is "today," with kathie lee gifford, and hoda kotb, live from studio 1a in rock feller plaza. hello, everybody. it's wines day wednesday. june 19. we're delighted that you're with us today. >> kicking off wines day, we have new wine glasses. these are not the kind we usually drink out of. these are unique. >> what has nbc news come to? these are available for purchase. >> they're selling -- >> our nbc experience store. >> selling on -- on one side it's got our images. on the other it has or logo.

-- our logo. >> yes, yes. >> nice. >> who buys these things? >> $20. >> like i said -- for the set? >> $20 for two -- is that a set, two? oh, lord. >> to purchase go to nbc.com and click "shop." there's reason to celebrate if you watched "the voice" last night, and your girl was chosen. >> i heard, yeah. we all -- i wrote this down -- >> she picked danielle, i picked the swon brothers. >> i just figured this girl has the opportunity and the potential, i think to have a huge career. >> it's one of those when it comes to the last moment, it was so thrilling. it was between your girl, danielle, and michelle -- let's watch the winning moment. [ cheering ]

>> that's cruel. >> why are they waiting so long? >> they want you to sweat it out. >> danielle bradbery! team blake! >> oh. wow. that's a great moment. >> can you imagine, 16 years old. usually when you're 16, you can't wait to go to your prom. that's the highlight of your life. you're going to go to the prom. but no, she's going to have a major, major career. >> you predicted that she would be along the lines of -- >> she reminds me of when carrie underwood won -- do you know what's sad? i know this is the fourth season of "the voice," and we couldn't remember who'd won the last three. we couldn't remember. they're all talented people, but -- though i hear cassadee pope has an album coming out. >> there are a lot of great singers for for some reason you can already feel that danielle is going to be a stand-out among the previous winners.

there's something about her that you feel will cut through. >> this business is so much more than talent. she's got the right constitution for it. give her a cover girl commercial now. she's so fresh-faced and sweet. and that world, the country world -- >> yeah -- >> and the gospel music world -- >> yeah. >> if they're not something, they are so loyal. >> right. once they love you, they love you. >> once they love you, they love you. >> it's not easy to be loved. you have to work it. >> they expect you at the fan fest. they expect you to -- you know, we have kid rock coming on in a little bit. he'll talk about that. that talk about longevity. >> we made a promise yesterday on our program. >> yes, we did. that's right. >> we talked about cher. we knew cher was going to be performing. it was her first performance in five years, first live performance since she retired. we talked about joann le marco, our producer who loves cher. >> is obsessed with cher. >> she promised that she would dress the part. >> in her old cher outfits that were really cher's clothes. >> let's see if we've got it right. let's take a shot. >> come on. >> oh, my gosh! >> come here in the light.

>> joann, jojo -- oh, my gosh! >> you did it all the way. >> oh, my gosh. is that cher's real hair? cher? >> look. >> oh she's still got the tag. >> yes, but i can't return it because the store is closed. >> that's right. >> it's just on -- ♪ >> do you know what? >> what? >> have long have you had that? you look amazing. >> you look hot. >> 20 years. when i put it on i used to wear a miniskirt underneath it -- nothing, nothing. >> you have leggings? >> was it fun watching cher? ♪ do you believe in love after love ♪ >> that's her song. [ laughter ] >> look at that -- >> adorable. how many times have you been to a cher -- how many times to a cher concert, jo jo? >> countless times. >> and you met her? >> i met her. >> does she remember you? >> of course. no, i don't know. >> you're tight. sometimes when you actually meet your -- the person that you are obsessed with, they can be

disappointing. >> was it? >> it wasn't for you, right? >> honestly, i -- i had this whole group of friends. our cher fan friends group that we traveled with. >> cher what? >> fan friends. we started the international cher fan club together. >> of course you did. >> she was always fabulous. she was always fabulous. >> she is fabulous. a heck of a woman. >> so is joann. we love you -- >> where is that split screen? >> call for it. >> all right. >> cher's 67 years old. isn't that amazing? >> her new album is called "closer to the truth." out in september. and i'm excited for her. you know, she's still kicking it. >> i love her. >> you can go on broadway and see bette midler still kicking it. >> i love her. >> you're right. you're right. >> do you know who kicks it more than anybody? betty white. 91 and still kicking it. >> she is. if you enjoy singing, we have another little singing clip for you. jimmy fallon -- >> who's always doing something fun. >> and brad pitt took up another

version of singing that they both enjoy, yodelling from the rooftops of new york. >> who doesn't love yodeling? >> all right. take a look. [ yodeling ] [ yodel echo ] [ yodeling ] [ yodel repeating ] [ laughter ] [ yodeling ] >> jimmy, what are you doing up here? [ yodelling ]

[ laughter and applause ] >> a duet yodeling. [ cheers and applause ] >> oh! that's genius. >> that was perfect. >> i love the long, long yodel. it's "same." so funny. good for him. we have elvis durant on our show speaking of music. we love it when he comes on. once a month he comes on. >> bring brand new artists. that he discovers, there's so much talent out there. >> he always picks winners. listen to this -- ♪ before you and give the meaning no one else has found ♪ ♪ your only play is so important ♪ ♪ we are the voices of the >> like mumford and sons and a little bit -- >> i was thinking that. >> i love that. the mystery group -- we're going to meet them. they'll perform later in our

show thanks to elvis. >> okay. now, there's been unusual silence in the kardashian camp. we all know that kim gave birth on saturday. everybody's been speculating. i've heard that the baby only weighed five ounces -- five pounds. excuse me. >> yeah. >> five pounds. nobody wants to hear that after you've given birth. nobody. >> i know. five pounds? >> the good news is, you have a healthy baby. the bad news is five pounds. you're thinking, oh, my gosh. kim, she'll get there. but anyway, there's been talk about what are they going to name the little baby. >> and there's been speculation. one name that leaked out and i don't know whether a nurse saw some paperwork or -- who knows what happened. anyway, this is the leaked name, it's not official. cadence donda west. cade yence with a kai.

>> k-a-i. >> and donda was kanye's mom who passed away. no one in the family has confirmed it. i've only texted chris. i don't know. i don't know. >> i'll be curious. >> we'll talk about would you wednesday -- would you name your child, would you give them a creative name. >> yeah. a lot of people do that. i think they want their kids to stand out. to not be like every other kid in school. >> to be unique. >> and "g.q." magazine decided there were etiquette rules to name your children. >> who named them the arbiters of everything tasteful? >> they know. they say don't invent a new name. don't make up something out of the blue. >> okay. >> don't pick a name that sounds cool like ace, duke, or rock. >> first of all, our friends, the rancics named their little boy duke. he's adorable. and we have kid rock on the show. he might have something to say about that. >> ace -- >> maybe don't name him kid, but rock sounds good. >> ace sounds like you'd, a winner as a kid. what's your name, ace. sounds like a kid who's going to be successful. >> ace everything in life. i don't know. don't use unnecessary double letters. turn the letter -- don't turn

the letter "y" into apostrophes. >> when i started signing books, that's what you realize how many variations there are of the name karen. they go, no, no, no. car caryn. >> john mellancamp's son's name is spec wildhorse. >> he's probably going to become a lawyer. then penn jillette's daughter is moxie crimefighter. >> that's her name. >> jason lee named his son pilot inspector. but inspector is i-n-s-p-e-k-t-o-r. i bet that's never going to be misspelled. i don't know. i'll never forget when i named my son cody and regis so wanted me to name him regis. i can't believe your parents named you regis. why would i do that to my child?

>> when i was pregnant with a girl, he says, "you've got to name her regina." i said, "i'm not naming her regina." to get him off my back, i said, "listen, if i go and save a dog from the pound and name it after you, will you get off my back?" >> that's why you named your dog regis? >> he goes, "would you do that for me?" yeah, so we had regis for 14 years. he was awesome. but regis never forgave me. cody and cassidy, he said, "it's a freaking wild west show." >> yeah. >> those were considered unusual names back then. >> then everyone started naming their kids cody after you -- after cody. >> i guess. >> well there was a whole thing. >> i wonder how many more regises there were. >> is regis a family name? what is that? do you know? >> it means king. >> of course it does. >> and he's lived up to it. that's right. regis -- do you know his middle name? very few do. xavier. love the man. >> regis xavier? >> yes. he's not jewish. that's a very irish catholic name. >> no, he's not. coming up, he knows how to put on a good show.

we'll mix things up with the very talented kid rock. >> he's a lot of fun. and he's ready to bring you the best night ever. i offered him a drink downstairs. he says he does his best work at night. he's making an exception for us. he's with us right after this. ♪ the makers of one a day believe, as i do,

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who love his mix of rap, rock, country, pop, and even the blues. >> he's got a great sound. now the five time grammy nominee is making you an offer you cannot refuse. he's heading out on tour this summer. get this -- all tickets for the shows, $20. the tour is aptly named "the $20 best night ever tour." >> does that include some hookers in vegas? >> too early. i have not had enough wine yet. >> well, drink up, baby. you're in the right place. >> hats off, by the way. so many people and kids want to see concerts. the ticket prices are outrageous. >> that's what we were trying to do. i don't know that $20 is the right price to change the business, but i thought it was the right way to make a statement. hey, we make a lot of money. there's another way to do it. and you can still charge $20, $4 for a 12-ounce beer, cheap parking, $20 t-shirts and still make money if you do the numbers in people. i went in rather than have the

fans, you know, try to debate how do i do it fair with them and fight about the money -- let me do a deal with live nation, and let's -- let us rich fools, we'll duke it out and see how we can -- >> such as yourself, going to the people, baby. >> i love that. >> 1%, and i never made an unhonest dollar off. >> not everybody can say that. >> good for you. >> what was live nation's reaction? these guys are nobody's fools. they're smart. they make an awful lot of money. the business is huge for them. what was the first reaction? >> i've got to say they've been transparent through the whole deal. i said, if you'll be transparent, show me the numbers. they said, here, sign this nondisclosure. makes sense. showed me the numbers. we figured out how we can make money, maybe take a pay cut if we have to which is fine. >> yeah. all you guys were -- >> they'll never have to go in the red. they said some nights they lose money, some nights they make a lot of money. how would you like to make money every night? >> what was the fans' reaction? you have diehard fans -- >> thank god that the tickets are selling through the roof. st. louis wants a second show. we're going to do 28,000 in chicago. l.a. sold out in nine days.

we're going to do seven shows in detroit. we're announcing today that we're going to add an eighth show. >> it's not just you. who's on tour? >> first half, uncle cracker, kool and the gang. >> i love them. >> second half is uncle cracker and zz top. >> what's up with the cracker guy? >> he's my best friend. >> yes. playing favorites. >> you also do something on a cruise with -- with your fans. i mean, that's got to be -- has to be insane. >> trust me. i know about that. >> yes, she does. >> those people can hurt you. >> look at this. >> we'll get a theme song out of you. ♪ in the morning in the evening ain't we got fun ♪ especially you in the evening, baby. what ship are you on? >> well, we actually had a new ship. it's funny that my name never came up in the carnival "destiny." because that was ourship. >> i'm the godmother to that ship. >> me and you screwed it up? >> no. you want a concert -- >> our shenanigans made that thing stop in the middle of the

ocean? >> i think i'm the godmothers of -- godmother of that. check on that. you want to set the world on fire with ticket sales, kid rock and kathie lee, carnival cruise. all my hits from carnival -- >> we would love to have you come out and sing "picture" or a song of your choice anytime. >> i'm joking. >> any time. >> we'll leave it to the pros. >> thank you. give him what the man really likes. >> drink of choice? >> you sure you want to see bourbon bobby? [ laughter ] >> is that what you call him? >> whoo! >> cheers. >> cheers, bourbon bobby. >> congrats. >> have an awesome summer with your fans. >> i don't watch a lot of tv, but when i'm up and watching the show, i'm not the type of person who -- love the show. >> thank you. >> twice he's seen it. thank you, sweetheart. >> have a great summer. all the photos you sent in that made us go, "why," but made you go, "what the what?" >> the best of the bunch

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♪ we're back on this wines day wednesday. the moment you've been waiting for -- >> "what the what?" >> sarah's here to sort through photos. we're going to show funny ones. >> four good ones. first up the caption contest. the photo from margaret miller and the winning caption -- "that's for hogging my side of the uterus." ba-bam. thank you. that's cute. the next captioned one is at the end. we have a photo from carrie lad from columbia, south carolina. what do you think these smell like, scratch and sniff? i wanted to -- this does smell like a horse. i put this on there for you. >> if they're babies, they smell good. >> she said she sniffed them and they smelled like baby powder. what does that leave e lead one -- what does lead one to

believe? >> that's weird. >> and another one from plano, illinois. >> that's adorable. >> "maybe i don't want to keep off the grass." >> do i have to? >> that's a bad day for a 3-year-old. >> this a great shot. >> don't you love kids when they haven't grown into their heads yet? [ laughter ] >> that kid -- his head is the same size as the rest of his body. i have enormous respect for that mother. that's all i can tell you. >> next, we've got a photo from allison harbaugh from jefferson, iowa. >> beware of the dog. >> i hear attack ducks are the new thing. cute guy doesn't look harmful. >> you've been warned. >> got a -- >> maybe he's lunch for the dog. >> we had a fawn that jumped in our pool the other day. a baby. >> what. >> how did he get out -- >> he didn't -- >> he did. we got him out. >> i thought that was going to be a bad ending. >> no. we don't know where his mother is, but we let him go. broke my heart. >> mickey zimmer from oklahoma city submitted this. a mani/pedi van.

would you ever go toward it -- >> females are warned against that -- >> joann thought it was a good idea. >> joann's in a cher costume. >> i bet there are shag carpets inside that thing. >> i don't want to know who's running that. >> get away from shag carpets. >> and next week's contest. this is our photo sent in from lauren nelson. >> look at the eyeballing. >> go to our web site, be creative. >> giving us the stink eye. we'll be back after this.

♪ >> all right, we are back with more, and we're ready to play our weekly trivia game we call "who knew." with summer arriving friday, we're kicking things off with a celebration of the summer solstice. kathie lee is ready to hand out $100 to those who get it right. for those who don't, they get her fabulous cd.

you can't lose really. [ applause ] >> here to help me out in the studio is lorry bergamoto, editor of "lucky" magazine. she's been wanting to do this for years. >> i did. who knew? >> this lady is from chapel hill, north carolina. she wanted me to cheat, and i said no. the summer solstice occurs when -- the sun burns hottest and you are most at risk for a sunburn. when the sun reaches its highest position in the sky. the sun shines its brightest. or when the sun passes over the equator? >> oh, dear. it is number two -- [ bell ] >> wow. >> she's right. laws plauz. >> well done. well done. >> wow. >> she may have guessed. explain what this means. >> there is the time that the sun is at the northernmost part of the northern hemisphere's sky. so as we orbit, this is the time when we get closest to the sun. >> got it. >> that's why we have so much daylight.

>> my favorite time of the year, by the way. back to you. >> from louisiana, here's your question -- june 21st is the longest day of the year. not always if you know what i'm saying. what is the longest movie ever made? "the cure for insomnia," "gone with the wind," "heimat ii: a chronicle of a generation" or "the longest most meaningless movie in the world"? >> i'd say "gone with the wind." >> and you'd be wrong. >> the correct answer, surprising. "the cure for insomnia." honestly? >> yes, honestly. it's an art film. in 1987 it came out. it is 5,220 minutes long. let me do the math, that's 3.5 days. >> that's the most ridiculous thing i've heard. >> from john henry timmons. basically a man reading a poem interspliced with some not suitable for work clips. >> and weird. over to you. >> and weird. lexington, kentucky, this week. june 21st is also the first day of summer which means beach

season. when was the bikini first invented? 1946? 1956? 1960? 1963? >> a? [ bell ] >> it's even older than i am. >> 1946. >> this is when i was hoping you would flash the picture of kathie lee in the bikini. that is the hottest picture ever. yes, the correct answer, 1946. an engineer in france named louis rejard created it and named it the bikini after the nuclear test explosions going on at the bikini atoll. he said the swimsuit was going give a big bang, bigger than the atomic bomb. >> wow. >> there you have it, guys. >> back across to you. >> my daddy, as a young naval -- not officer, but a young navy guy, was at those blasts in bikini atoll back then. so i know a little something about that. where are you from again? >> wisconsin. >> okay. who originally sang "hot fun in the summertime"?

♪ hot fun in the summertime >> the osmonds, sly and the family stone, the beach boys, or k.c. and the sunshine band? >> b? >> let's not. [ buzzer ] >> no. she's going to love "party animals." >> she may. the correct answer -- >> b, sly and the family stone. this was confusing, k.c. and the sunshine, summertime. this was recorded in 1969. was a huge hit off of the heels of performing at woodstock. it did so well. the beach boys rerecorded it in 1992. it continues to just be one of those quintessential sunny day songs. >> love it. puts you right in the mood. the last one. >> all right. she's from jersey. what color is the sun, miss jersey? is it white, orange, yellow, or red? >> oh, no. when i color a coloring book, it's all of those colors. so i'm going to go with white. [ bell ] >> yes! [ applause ] >> oh, my gosh.

that was weird analysis but okay. >> it worked. the sun is white? >> the sun is white. the reason -- she wasn't completely wrong. she said it's all of those colors. white is the inclusion of all of those colors. like black is the absence of color. white is all the colors. and the sun doesn't turn yellow to our eyes until it passes through the earth's atmosphere. it is actually all colors. >> you're smart, lori. >> yes, i'm a little science-y. there's fashion, style at "lucky," and science. >> thanks for coming to see us. appreciate it. he says they're the next big thing. we'll meet elvis durant, artist of the month. we're excited to hear him after this. ♪ thhim after this. ♪ ehim after this. ♪ mhim after this. ♪ him after this. ♪ him after this. ♪ him after this. ♪ him after this. ♪ thim after this. ♪ him after this. ♪ ehim after this. ♪ mhim after this. ♪ im after this. ♪ m after this. ♪ after this. ♪

♪ we are back with elvis duran's artist of the month when the national radio host introduces us to rising stars in the music world. he has not been wrong yesterday. -- not been wrong yet. >> no, i would not let you down. >> no. >> wait until you see who he

has. if you haven't heard them yet, chances are you will be hearing them in the future. are you ready? do you know what they're called? they are called a great big world. >> their real names are ian and chad, right? >> they have a single -- >> these guys met at nyu. ian will be playing the keyboard. chad is singing. the song they're about to give you was featured on "glee." when a song is featured on "glee," there's a good chance it's going to be a hit. >> what did you love about it? you're picky about who you love. >> i tell you what, when i heard you for the first time on youtube, like millions who have watched them, there's an energy, a power to their music. it catches you and makes you feel good. >> you guys write everything, right? >> yeah. >> okay. >> what did you think when elvis tapped you on the shoulder and said that you were his pick for this month? >> i fainted. literally. [ laughter ] >> he -- i feel like i'm living in a dream world. >> you are. >> that's a good title for another song. excuse me. >> more of a nightmare. they've been drinking with kid rock. >> you better call your doctor and get checked. just kidding. >> what song are you singing? >> "this is the new year." you'll love this.

♪ another year you made a promise ♪ ♪ another chance to turn it all around ♪ and do not save this for tomorrow ♪ ♪ embrace the past and you can live for now ♪ ♪ and i will give the world to you ♪ ♪ say everything you've always wanted ♪ ♪ be not afraid of who you really are ♪ ♪ cause in the end we have each other ♪ ♪ and let's at least one thing worth living for ♪ ♪ and i will give the world tor you ♪ ♪ this is a new year ♪ a new beginning ♪ we are the voices ♪ this is a new year

>> i don't want that to end! >> i know. >> that's music, hoda. that's great. >> you're going to hear that all summer long. you'll hear that song. >> and on new year's day, too. >> exactly. >> hello. >> who were your musical influences? who do you love? >> i grew up listening to like little mermaid, "lion king." >> broadway influence? >> i grew up, my first concert was yani. >> and this is his piano we brought. we bought it on ebay. >> congratulations, you guys. it's really fun to have you here. okay. >> love them. >> yeah! how do you get your kids to go to bed on time? why should you worry if they don't? as if you need one more thing to worry about. tell you why after this. >> put it on your list. >> good morning to you. i'm chris warren with your weather channel forecast. there will be another chance for severe weather. that's the area in red. it's possible to see damaging

winds, large hail, and even tornadoes a possibility here throughout these locations here in red, parts of the dakotas, minnesota, wisconsin, into iowa, and nebraska. chance for severe weather, best chance for severe weather. things are warming up across a huge chunk of the country. northeast into the upper 70s, plenty of 80s and 90s from chicago to kansas city, and even hotter in the southwest. 90s and triple digits. spotty showers for friday. not going to be a huge rain maker anywhere. but if you get caught in these showers, it will be a bit of a mess. still some heat for parts of the country. starting to shift up to the north. the twin cities, upper 80s, chicago also in the upper 80s. on the weekend, best chance for showers florida. and right along the canadian border. gorgeous start to the weekend in the northeast. lower 80s. starting to warm-up in d.c.

louisville, around 90 degrees. same thing kansas city. sunday a new system moving into the pacific northwest. rain figure washington and western oregon. chance for showers, but still warm. looking at thunderstorms here also parts of the southeast chance for showers on sunday. monday still warm in the northeast. then tuesday, showers in the southeast and in the pacific northwest and still hot right in the middle. so do what you got to do to keep cool. it will be summer time officially then. you can wake up with al. hey, have you guys heard about probiotics? for digestive health? yes and did you know that trubiotics is a daily probiotic that helps in two ways? it supports digestive and immune health by working in your gut where 70% of your immune system lives.

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♪ all righty. do your little nose-pickers ask for a glass of water -- >> that is not nice. >> after they're all tucked in? do they run into your bed in the middle of the night or want you to read their favorite book over and over and over again? >> it is normal for kids to not want to go to -- >> nose-pickers.

>> but if getting them to bed is a struggle, we have advice. amy creedy is a "today's mom" contributor and author of "one more time." >> and psychologist jennifer hartstein is author of "princess recovery." great to see you both. >> a lack of sleep may make a child cranky, but it can have bigger overall health complications. >> it can. insufficient sleep affects growth because the growth hormone is released at night when they're sleeping. affects their cognition and social behavior -- so it really is a big deal. it comes out in their behavior. >> especially in the youngest years, they can learn to control it a bit. mask it as they get older. at 2, 3, 1 -- >> they're already impulsive. imagine they're more irritable, impulsive, emotionally disregulated, it will be harder to get through the day. they will be tantruming, they'll be out of control. >> is the idea to get into a routine? what should you do if you have trouble putting your kids to sleep at night? >> routine is a big thing.

one of the first things is understanding how much kids your sleep actually needs. most kids get less. a child up to 6 years old probably needs 12 hours of sleep -- >> amazing. >> 7 to 12-year-olds need tone -- need ten to 11 hours. >> once they start school they rarely get what they need. >> especially teenager who really need nine hours of sleep. the fact is, i don't know a teenager who gets nine hours of sleep at all. >> no. >> which is why they're so much more inattentive in school and have academic and performance issues and that's really a problem. >> let's talk about young kids. say your child doesn't sleep well and want to crawl in bed with you? is that a terrible no-no like they say in magazines? >> some families are comfortable with that, having the kids sleep in bed. but you have to have have an exit plan. at some point they need to be independent sleepers. if they wake up they can get themselves back to sleep. that requires training. >> one of the things to remember is a lot of kids come into mom or dad's bed for soothing. they want to be soothed by their parents. if that goes on too long, they

never learn how do to do it by themselves. a problem down the road. >> self-soothing. >> routine is a good place to start. >> a routine. should they go to bed at the same time every night? >> yes, be consistent. >> hard in the summertime when the sun is still up. my father and mother made me go to bed, all of us kids, at 8:30 all the time. and the sun is still shining in -- >> that's weird. >> there's kids outside playing. >> it's hard. you know, bedtime in the summer can be a little later than the school year, but has to be consistent every night. week nights, weekends, same bedtime. if it's 8:00 one night, 8:30 the night -- -- the next, it throws your clock off. >> and kids are negotiating. >> and you can keep the room dim at those times. the bedroom always feels like a safe sanctuary. the negotiation is always part of the challenge. we're constantly -- we don't want to have a power struggle at bedtime. if everybody knows the rule is, we head into our bedroom at 8:00, lights out at 8:30, read the book, do the same thing -- >> they'll stretch as much as you let them. >> as much as you let them. the key for the parent is for putting the kid to bed.

that's the parent's responsibility. the child's responsibility is falling asleep. i think we have to remember that the more we set the structure the better and healthier our kids will be. >> did your kids sleep okay when they were little? >> i always ended the evening with -- i think it's important, for me it was to pray every night. to give them a sense that in this big, ever-changing world there's something constant. >> that's the ritual. >> yeah. that was our ritual. they knew after that, mommy would turn on her kathie lee cd, >> oh. >> that's the secret. >> hodie needs it. >> yeah. >> frank still loves it. >> all right. thank you. >> good to see you. >> thank you. saving you some time in the kitchen with frozen desserts >> ooh, i like it. that is my kind of cooking.

♪ ice ice baby ♪ vanilla ice ice baby time for today's "kitchen delicious desserts. " we're about to find out if we can tell the difference between home made treats and frozen, store-bought goodies. >> if you have guests coming and no time to bake, lifestyle expert maureen petroski is here with options. >> good to see you. do they taste similar? is it hard to tell? >> i have a soft spot for home-baked goods. there are frozen desserts that can be as good. so i want you to taste-test. sometimes the visual can be a give-away. >> yes. you can already tell. >> this one looks like home-baked. >> first one, this is so perfect. this one has nooks and crannies. >> this is rustic. but rustic can go for wrong if you're not a baker. sometimes it's great to take a shortcut. pies are something that can take a long time to prepare the cleanup and baking. i want you to taste test and see if you can tell the difference. >> i love that.

>> and this -- >> i love that. >> this one to you. >> mm. >> pie is also a simple dessert to dress up. whether it's fresh berries, a la mode. this is your preference taste. and you -- >> can i tell you something, this tastes it came from the store. did it? >> it did come from the store. >> it's good -- >> frozen -- >> you like this better? >> yes, because there's preservatives and things i like. >> simply. >> dress it up. >> she loves it. >> i liked it. you put carmel sauce -- >> drizzle it. >> a la mode. >> grandma made that. >> that's the difference. >> that is delicious. >> moving to the next delicious thing. another shortcut is poundcake. visually, you might be able to tell the difference here in the front. >> i can. >> i know which one you're going to love. >> that's store bought. >> the one i want. >> store. >> simply changing how you present them to your guests makes a world of difference. >> okay. >> nothing says summer like a jar like that -- >> a mason jar, wine glass,

we're making a trifle here. fresh blueberries -- >> right. >> you can't even tell the difference. you can taste those if you want. >> you're telling us how to cheat -- >> shortcuts. >> i don't have to even taste it. i can tell. >> you don't like it -- >> i do. we're going to lunch with matt today, one of my favorite restaurants. >> sara lee. >> near east pub. i shouldn't say that. now the whole world knows. >> yeah. >> it's not -- it's frank and johnny's. that's where we're going. >> you can have dessert first. >> maybe we're going to luhrplan's. >> poundcake, shortcut. they taste delicious. you tasted them side by side. nobody will know the difference. >> only sara lee. >> this is definitely a store bought. and there are so many brands, with pies and cakes, you have a lot of leeway. there's not one that's the best. brownies and cookies. these are things you might not think to buy frozen. you might think it's easy to make cookies or brownies, but it's summertime. not everybody wants to get in the kitchen.

>> this is entenmann's? >> frozen. >> she knows her brands. she knows all the brands. >> uh-huh. that's it -- so good. >> this is homemade, i think. >> what do you think? >> they both -- i look to see the perfection of things. and so -- >> these are homemade. those cookies are store bought, and these are homemade. >> yep. >> are we right? >> uh-huh. >> taste -- >> uh-huh. >> from the lovely allie. gave us her recipe. think about how you present them. you could do this, again, cookies could be ice cream sandwiches. you could do cookies and milk dessert setup. >> the truth is sometimes there's not that much difference. >> the same with lemon squares. >> looks frozen, but a little bit of powdered sugar -- >> i love that. >> thank you, sweetie. >> thanks for everything. >> donald sutherland is going to be with us. >> am ambush makeover for two lucky ladies. >> and we'll pitch a tent in a camping competition. have a great wines day wednesday, everybody. see you at la cirque.

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