♪ everybody talks everybody talks ♪ it's friday, friday, july 12th. from nbc news, this is a special "he said, she said" edition of "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> hello, everybody. it's friday, friday, july 12th. we have so much fun in store for you today. we could just change your life. >> i kind of doubt we could change your life. >> we dream big. >> this is all about he said, she said and couples and what we fight about with our husbands or boyfriends and how we can resolve all these disputes. a lot of people say, i have been friendly with couples who say we never -- it's weird. we don't fight. >> yeah.

and that is a bunch of -- >> you think it's just pent-up -- >> i think either they are polite or don't know each other well enough or there's not a real deep connect on some level because i think you are different people and you're going to have to have disagreements. >> it would seem to me. but a lot of people have trouble communicating. >> you and frank yell and scream? >> hiss. >> you do? what's the main thing you fight about? >> i used to be a much nicer human being. now i just go -- >> what is the main thing you guys fight about? >> let me think about that for a minute. >> okay, well, while you're thinking, we took to the streets to find out what -- >> i'll think about that. >> time to get down and dirty here. >> he doesn't listen ever. >> she never wants to make a decision and i always want to make her make one. >> the pressure to conform to, say, a new diet that you might

get interested in like the juicing diet right now. he puts pressure on me and thinks it's the best thing for me as well as him. >> well, it is. >> he eats all the groceries in about two days' time when they are supposed to last about a week. >> it's true. she's not lying. >> what annoys me the most about my boyfriend is when we share a bed, he spreads out like a starfish and almost pushes me out sometimes. >> yeah, that could be annoying. i guess -- i guess it's the kids. >> yeah. >> you know. we don't fight a lot. and when we do, it can be brutal. it can be brutal. but we also laugh tons more than we fight. >> that's great. >> if you don't laugh, you might as well pack it in right now if you can't laugh at yourself. >> they say one of the number one things couples fight about is money because that's such a hot button and usually a spender and a saver and they -- >> that's why i was always grateful. i'm frank's third wife but i'm the only one that had her own credit card. >> what do you mean? >> well, that was -- makes their

own career in that sense. so i like that freedom. and i think that's important. >> they say couples fight about kids and sex is another one. like not enough. >> well, if you're not having it, you never fight about it. you know what i'm saying? >> here's another question for you. do you -- >> thank you, anthony. >> do you think it's okay to watch television in the bedroom? have a tv on in your bedroom? >> yeah. >> what about like ipads and iphones. >> i'm not into all that tech stuff. i go to bed a little bit earlier than frank because i get up so much earlier. once in a while i'll turn the news on if there's an update on something. so i like to have it there for that, but i'm not a big watcher of tv in our bedroom. >> right, right, because they say that can ruin a relationship because that's sometimes the only time you get a chance to talk and catch up. with the tv on you have something else going on in the background. >> what about you, hoda. why are you asking me? >> we always had a tv on. a tv in the -- >> come on. >> that is not very nice. >> how many weeds were there?

♪ i want to hodie on your kotb >>top. nobody likes -- it's not catching on. >> it's catching on. >> nobody -- >> oh, i was at bergdorf's the other day. they were going yeah, yeah! wait till the video comes out. >> all right. so here's another question. what is it that couples love about one another? while we think about that, that's see what you had to say. >> that's easy. "game of thrones" and our share loved for hip-hop music. >> yeah, pretty much. >> we're both into tattoos, obviously, so having a shared common interest helps. >> just taking time out and just hanging out with friends and remembering why we fell in love in the first place. >> what makes our relationship work best is probably communication like when he does listen. >> being able and open to going new places, trying new things and experiencing everything together. >> what makes our marriage work is great communication and a consistency to use love as a verb. >> i think it's quite simple how to make a marriage work.

in my case, i just never say no and i always tell her how skinny she looks. and she likes that. and i like her to like that. >> frank just did a youtube video or something. >> first of all, i'm shocked about that. very grainy. >> so what did he say again? >> i don't know. i like it when he tells me that i look skinny. >> and he says yes to everything you say. >> that is not true but i do like it when he says yes. you know what i love about him so much, he's a very giving person. frank is a really generous, sweet person. and he's a good man. and i'm very grateful for him. >> i still remember when there was this huge luncheon. i think you and frank were being honored. >> another drunk and another honor. was it for philanthropist of the year again? >> i'm sure it was. >> humanitarian of the planet? i'm sick of it. >> we were sitting at a table and everyone was sitting at the

table and i came in i guess a minute late or something and frank was at the table. he watched as i came in. he stood up from the table. when i sat down. and i saw -- i've seen him do that over and over to people. he's got the old-fashioned -- >> he does. >> -- manners that are lost. >> he's got the best of that old-fashioned stuff. look at him. he can do youtube. wow. >> he's hot. so now it is time for our favorite part of every friday. kathie lee's friday funny. >> okay. [ laughter ] this was sent in on facebook. okay? >> okay. >> a woman runs into a doctor's office and says, doctor, doctor, you have to help me. every part of my body that i touch hurts. i am in so much pain. the doctor looked at her confused and replied, okay. show me. so the woman poked her ankle. she let out a huge aaaah and was visibly in a lot of pain. she poked her knee and yelled again. again aaah. then she poked her forehead and screamed again. she was about to continue and the doctor said, that's enough. let me think this over. he thought about it for a minute and said, i think i know what

your problem is. you broke your finger. you know, hearing that, that rim shot, my friend joel mann, joel, i want to get a camera on you. joel was my drummer when i did my live performance. i had no idea he was going to be here today. we've got these lovely ladies. there's joel. he's in the witness protection. >> he's now been revealed. there you see him. >> how long were you my drummer? >> about 12 years. >> 12 years. >> seems like 20. and his dad, oh, man, great, great, great musical director. great to see you. it's time for bobbie's buzz. come on. >> so this week i have some fun eye-openers for you. this is a first look at an exclusive and there's mascara has a makeover. so avon has a thing called mega lash. you pop off the cap. and then bend the handle and like a paintbrush.

so you apply mascara straight on. this says it helps lift the lashes at the same time while it's applying mass car, so, avon, kudos to you. very clever. >> such a smart idea. >> and it's so hot, it just launched. there's a huge waiting list. they'll ship next week. another clever design is nix. and this is -- why don't you come in here. lisa, we have hoda's friend. >> cydney. >> okay, so you can just help me demo this. you put your hand on this and it helps you get your hand out of the way so you can apply your eyeliner in a straighter fashion. >> that's another brilliant thing. >> so you can get that cat eye. this is a really cool idea. this is a great ergonomic design. and then two faced has this three-tipped eyeliner. i don't know if you'll be able to see this on my hand. i tried to draw some dots. it's really small. but what this does is this helps give you the illusion of longer lashes. what you'll do is you'll pick up your eye and just

add the dots on the under side and it makes your lashes look longer. it fills it in without making it look like a harsh eyeliner. >> and what do you have there? >> last, but not least, a glam glow. glam glow is a really hot line at sephora. they just launched this very much anticipated bright mud. and these are for him or her. so guys can get in on this, according to our showed to today. pop these on your eye and after three minutes wipe off and -- >> it makes it sparkly? >> you just get a bigger, i don't know how to say this. but the dark spots go away. when i tried it i was amazed. i looked less tired at 5:00. >> bobbie thomas and sydney, thank you both. >> thank you all. that's a face made for television. >> that's right. >> both of them. let's head over to sara haines for the baby of the week. >> it's time for today's johnson's baby announcements when we celebrate new moms and their adorable new additions to their families. our first johnson's baby is finley grace flickinger born on june 11th. from atlanta, georgia. this is the first child for mark

and tara and they say that finley is such a good baby that they are already considering future siblings for her. next is liam nathaniel tretten. this little man weighed 6 pounds and 14 ounces and he was born may 14th in california. his parents jennifer and andrew say liam enjoys slow dancing and long walks on the beach with his mom and dad. our next johnson's baby is sophia joy james. she was born in iowa on june 13th to parents shawna and rick. they say that little sophia's favorite thing is the sound of her big brother's voice. it always makes her so happy. and our last baby of the week is oliver waylon leathers, born may 19th in mississippi, weighing 7 pounds and 10 ounces. his parents nathan and mary beth say they are enjoying every minute because he's growing so fast. >> what happened? >> big congratulations to all the babies. if you want a chance for your baby to appear on our johnson's baby of the week, go to klgandhoda.com. it is try-day friday. so we are going to try something. we have our white gloves on. and there are some beautiful dancers over here. jubilee dancers. should we go join them.

>> yes, yes, yes. >> they are from bally's in vegas. ♪ viva las vegas >> hello. >> now one of them is kathryn. the other is kathy. >> nice to meet you guys. >> hey. >> so first of all, ladies, you are here in new york doing auditions for other kathys to go to vegas and be a showgirl? right? >> yes. >> is this difficult to do? >> pretty hard. there's lots of kicks. there's lots of bevels. >> why don't you show us a couple of those moves. >> the hard thing is getting your body to look like you. >> not going to fit hoda's head. >> let's try it. >> i believe. >> ow. that's got to hurt. >> no, it's good. it's good. >> okay. >> give us some moves. >> whoa. >> sorry.

>> that's all right. >> okay, we're ready. >> i'm going to have to do the whole show. give us some moves as we go to break. >> forget it. >> okay. go ahead. we'll stand, you kick. >> the first thing you have to learn to do when you are a show girl and bevel properly,stick one leg in front of you. you can do little dips. cross your leg and then you do a little plie with both legs. there you go. beautiful. and always smile. >> and always smile. always smile. >> you always have to kick, too. we do tons of kicks in the show. lots of kicks in the show so you'll have to do tons of kicks. >> oh, no, no, no. >> thanks. >> all right, we're going to go to break. why don't you guys show us how it's done as we go to break. seven, eight. >> we're going to talk about what you argue about the most. >> and how to keep the peace right after this.

♪ we are young back with he said, she said. if you are like everyone else, you and your significant other bicker or argue from time to time. >> there are respectful ways of arguing from her perspective and from his to help keep the peace. laurie zaslow and relationship expert, psychologist jeff gardere. hi kiddos. so one of the top things we argue about is money. >> yes. >> okay. that's a big one. we're going to show a little clip from roseanne and then discuss money problems. >> entitled to breakup, i think. >> you think i would just earn enough money to go out and buy new hats. if it wasn't for me, the bank would have came and taken this house a long time ago. >> i always pulled in more money than you brought in. >> oh, yeah? well, what about that year when your bike shop went broke? >> that seems like fun. >> always a good idea to bring up past disasters in each other's lives, right?

>> well, that's the point. we don't want to talk about the disasters with money. we want to do a little bit more planning. whatever is missing on one side, let's see whether we can bring that up a little bit. and so it is a little bit more about financial planning being on the same page and this way, keeping it positive. >> absolutely. she totally actually emasculated him. >> yeah. >> she's good at that. >> his voice even went up. >> the truth is, even if someone brings home the bacon, it doesn't mean you get to eat it all. truthfully, you can't put a monetary value on other things people do. >> the right way, what they should have done is what? >> number one, try to find out what the deficits are. work with that. see what they can each contribute and it's not just about the money, as you are saying, it's also about just the contribution to the family. >> let's talk about household chores. that's another thing a lot of people -- there's a great scene from that movie "the breakup." >> that's what we were talking about. >> uh-huh. >> excuse me. what happened here? what are you doing? what are you doing?

>> i had such a long day on the bus. i had a rough day. my feet are killing me. >> my feet are killing me, too. i worked all day. i went to the market, cleaned this entire condo and i've been cooking for the last three hours. come on. help set the table. >> sweetheart, you have done such a great job already. don't you want to finish it yourself and have that personal power of accomplishment? >> all my god and all she wanted was the lemmons. i remember that scene so well. >> that frustration when you feel like you are carrying the whole load. >> but it's also a frustration for guys, too, because they are often criticized for not doing the housekeeping the right way because we normally don't know how. but i think at the same time, we should get a little appreciation for the things that we do in that way. and, therefore, we can step up more and we really need to do a lot more. >> absolutely. i really feel like men have kicked it up a lot. my husband does cooking, cleaning. do something fun. i mean, make a chart wheel. >> do you acknowledge when he does it? >> absolutely. >> even if he does it wrong? >> absolutely.

>> and it is a turn-on. >> hoda loves it. >> they put on an apron and it's over. >> it is one of those things. >> if you both participate. there's a reason, there's a fine -- just the house clean. >> men and women don't think alike. what do you wish you knew about the other but are afraid to ask. >> our battle of the sexes panel goes at it. >> it'll be fun. what do you think about caffeine? we consume over two billion cups of coffee every week without a second thought. 5-hour energy has less caffeine than some starbucks coffees, plus it has vitamins and nutrients. it's simple... caffeine with vitamins and nutrients. it's the combination that makes it so great. before you make a decision, get the facts. try a sip and find out why so many people love 5-hour energy.

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♪ you got me crazy in honor of today's he said, she said, we put together a special panel of men and women to answer all your burning questions about relationships. >> first up, carroll. sharing marriage counseling duties with his wife. on "bridezilla -- >> then we have comedian rick younger who brought along his wife, actress and writer sheelie younger. >> wow. yes.

>> oh, pretty. >> and next up, the divorced and now single bob. >> just sad, sad, sad. >> last, but not least, our relationship expert and single gal, amy lauren. >> okay, kids. are you ready? here's a facebook question from kate. here's the question. "do guys really get jealous of the relationship their spouse has with their children?" >> yes, absolutely. >> especially if your son is like our son. whoever he's having fun with when the other person shows up, he will put you out of the room. so like they are having a great time. let's join the fun. he's like, i want daddy to leave. and he kicks me out. >> i'm like, okay. >> he's 4. he's at the perfect age to, you know, choose -- to pit us against each other as well. >> so when you guys have that issue, do you really feel jealous when your child gets attention that you're not getting? >> there's jealousy almost over anything that takes his attention away from me. >> and if we're in the mood, we're always jealous of anything that comes along.

>> how do you resolve that? >> we kick the kids out and let them play in the street, whatever. >> every once in a while we let them know, hey, man, it's you against us. we came first. >> also in a marriage, and this is what i always remind women, you have to be really careful not to become roommates and just deflect and put all your attention on the kids and ignore your husband. you have to remember you are also a wife and you are also a husband and a father. >> right. i like that advice. that was very good. all right. you know what, we're going to take a break because we have a lot to discuss, and we're going to have more with our panel and our crowd. it's a rip roaring crowd. we'll be back with more after this. ♪

we're back on this try day friday with our special "he

said, she said" edition of "today" and our battle of the sexes panel. they're here to answer as many relationship questions. >> and on the panel we have marriage counselors mr. and mrs. jim elizabeth carroll. our usual suspect rick younger and his wife whose name happens to be vanessa and the divorced bob guinea. and the single amy lawrence. let's go to the crowd. >> we have tina from toronto with her fam. hi. how are you? >> good. my question is what do men really prefer? is it good looks or a fabulous personality? >> good looks. >> good personality and looks. >> good looks only last so long. >> exactly. when the light comes down there better be some personality. >> doesn't have to be either or. can we kind of have a middle of the road? >> when guys are looking for a woman, they would much rather take a 7 or an 8 with an amazing total package personality than the model that has nothing going. >> exactly. >> makes you look more

attractive. >> you don't have to be like the most gorgeous person in the world if your personality -- >> although vanessa is. >> yes, she is. >> here's the facebook post from lynette. been married ten years and going through a rough time. my husband thinks it's not normal to have ups and downs in a relationship. well, is it normal? >> absolutely. >> yes! >> no! >> yes. >> be happy. >> you know what, if i would just put on a happy face and just be happy every day, he thinks everything is great. i want to get underneath all of it -- >> we always need to talk it out. >> we want to -- >> can't you just shut up and be happy. >> what did he say? >> okay. it's a joke. it's a joke. >> i'm sorry. >> i heard something -- >> wah, wah, wah. >> it's about a commitment and making a decision that whether things are good or bad that you're going to work it out and stay together. like my father used to always talk about and i've adopted this

philosophy. if she ever plans on leaving, she better pack a bag because i'm going with her. >> he always speaks so beautifully. even when you aren't here, vanessa. >> thank you. he also speaks very beautifully to me and about me to my face, too, which is -- >> that's very important. >> can you please take a lesson here. >> i like that couple. >> let's take another question from the crowd. >> youngers. okay. next up peter from ottawa. >> hi. my question is, do women find humor attractive and sexy in a man? >> god, i hope so. i'm a comedian. >> bob got lucky once. >> i'm hoping to make it work one more time. >> you to what -- >> humor is so important but it has limits. my husband is such a jokester. i mean, he's always got the joke going. and i've had to pull him back and say, this part of humor was great, but -- joking about sex

with other women, that's kind of -- >> what the hell is wrong with you? >> oh, man. >> humor -- >> we've got to talk, jim. >> i never joke about having sex with other women anymore. after today. but you know -- >> i'm a comedian and -- but one of the things that i think is so great, we laugh a lot. and that was also something i saw with my parents. they laughed a lot. so the sense of humor, women usually like that. but it's also good to laugh with each other. you don't have to be the greatest comedian personally but just to be able to laugh together. >> you use humor. you are adorable and a lot of times -- the crowd loves you. every time they want to date you. but you do -- >> no, you know, i am divorced. i will say the reason why my ex-wife and i are still friends and still have a relationship is because we were able to laugh together and became great friends. you can build a base of a friendship. you don't have to throw the baby

out with the bathwater. >> guys, we want to thank you because you are so nice and good looking and have great answers. >> and it's really, really lovely to get to meet vanessa. >> all righty. what do men and women really want in the bedroom? >> we'll talk sex right after this. ♪ about you and me let's talk this. ♪ about you and me let's talk about ♪s could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w... ...e...i...e...i...o. [buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief!

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♪ all right. when it comes to sex, what do men and women really want in the bedroom? is it sexy lingerie or just some peace and quiet in your house? >> whether you're single or in a committed relationship, here with some help to spice up your sex life -- >> oh, really? >> tiffany henry, she should know. relationship expert and certified sex therapist and steve ward of master matchmakers. >> well, well, well. let's start with the single ladies. let's get them done with early. yes. people always wonder how many dates should i wait until i decide to get intimate with the guy. >> marriage. >> well, minus that part.

>> they're not going to wait that long. >> i think it depends on what you want out of the relationship. certainly in you want a more committed long-term relationship then you wait a little bit longer. i always say, what you have is what you are committed to. so if you just want a really good time anticipate great sex, go for it, but if you want a relationship, you have to work on it and you have to get that emotional connection going first. >> how long do you think you should wait? how many dates would you appreciate? >> it depends on how much knowledge has been gained from each other. see, i think that it's almost like an acid test. communication, respect, trust. as soon as you have established all three of those key components, then i think it's safe to take the clothes off. >> okay. >> yeah, but in today's world, don't you have to go through an awful lot of stuff before you get to that point? you know you do. have you been tested? show me your results. it's weird. it's not very romantic. >> you think people do that? >> i think they need to, but they don't is what i think. >> they don't, which is why i suggest using protection. >> exactly. >> let's talk about married

couples. and couples are always curious about how often other couples are having sex. >> now, according to some survey it says the average couple has sex once a week. >> for sure. >> is that right? >> that's actually true. the average american married couple is having sex about once a week. most folks are coming in and saying we're not having a lot of sex. when i ask them, oh, about three to four times a month. and that's about once a week. so that's average. >> are the women -- >> men want it more and women tend to prioritize other things. >> but when you have kids and stuff, it changes the whole equation. >> i think it -- that's the problem. you only have so much time in a day. you have careers and you got kids and you have chores and bills. all these things you have to worry about. sometimes getting a little freaky isn't on the top of your priority list. >> freaky? >> the culture and world we live in makes us think like there's nothing but sex. that's just not the truth. >> let's talk about ideas so people can have more intimacy.

give me your suggestions. >> why are there gloves there? >> there's laundry here, cleaning supplies. what does it have to do with sex? what it has to do is the sexiest thing that i find when i walk in the house and my husband is cooking dinner, the laundry is done, he's cleaned the house. >> what? >> i have -- i have a lot more energy for sex. >> of course you do. >> exactly. >> archie and edith bunker but not for the average american couple. >> what do you think works? >> i do. >> i think the most important thing -- maybe when you get a little bit older -- >> how old do you think i am, sir? >> i happen to think there are other things that will get -- >> such as -- >> comfortability. the fact is you can't be rushed. you can't feel like you are just squeezing it in. you can't feel like you have to find the time for it. so you need something that's comfortable. so i think the most important thing as far as men are concerned and i'm really talking to the men out there is make sure your partner is very comfortable. that they are at ease.

that they're not rushed or hurried. there's a lot of things you can do to make sure they're comfortable in bed. >> that's why this stuff is important. sex foreplay actually starts outside of the bedroom. >> they call that foreplay. >> we have to run but you think that somehow painting someone with chocolate works? >> oh, for sure. i say that chocolate is like wine. you don't want to buy wine that you don't cook with. you don't want to buy chocolate that you wouldn't want to eat and you wouldn't want to play with, so get good quality chocolate, melt it, and put it on your body and lick it off. >> isn't that counterintuitive. clean up, clean up and then let's make a big mess. >> if he's cleaning up, i don't see a problem with that. >> they don't want chocolates and oils and all that. >> what do they want? >> it's not about you. >> thank you. >> men want -- well, men want the woman to enjoy the experience. most importantly. >> what if she wants some chocolate? >> i have never once in a life met a woman who wants to be covered in chocolate while having sex. i just never met one person. >> she wants you to lick it off. >> we didn't say it needed to stay on the whole time. >> all right.

what are you really -- are you really wearing that? >> what he never wants you to wear on a date. >> but sometimes you do anyway. >> but he wishes that you would. and how to cook a meal you'll both love together. >> the two of you, i love this. >> first, these messages. good morning, i'm crystal egger with the weather channel. the weekend is here and for some we'll have beautiful weather. for others it's going to be soggy once again. that includes much of the east from the southeast all the way up to new england. there's a stationary front so a boundary that's not going to move much and with enough moisture in the air and daytime heating that will set off showers and thunderstorms again in the afternoon. all the way down into south florida. another system pushing through the high plains. that's where you see red on the map. a threat for severe storms so keep an eye to the sky. if thunder roars, you want to

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>> he's be honest. there are times when we spend hours trying to find the right outfit for date night. what we like to wear and what our guy likes to see us in can be two very different things. >> yeah and what he wears is a whole other story. here to show us what date night looks like that drives the opposite sex wild and which ones fall short are -- >> turn-off. >> "men's editor" tyler thorson and "redbook" magazine, audrey slater. and they're going to weigh in with a thumbs up and thumbs down. >> okay. >> so this is one of those things that often we're not quite sure what to wear on a date. >> a first date?

right? >> a lot of pressure on a first date. yeah, first date. let's take it there. >> all right. so this is what the opposite sex does not like. this is what we wish guys would wear and men wish that their date would not wear, right? why don't you come on out. let's look at the first couple. so tell us what is wrong with this? >> look. women are always telling men, you got to put in a little bit of effort here. nobody is really putting in any effort here. anything that channels britney spears circa 2002, i just don't think is a great look. there's a time and place for everything you're seeing here. >> such as if their first date is let's have coffee. i'll meet you at starbucks and we'll talk. that's okay. audrey, what do you think? >> but i do want to say, bad move. don't show toe on a first date. >> toes? >> what if you have the most beautiful feet? >> i feel flip-flops are a bold statement and that is that i'm not putting in an effort. i'm going as casual as i

possibly can. and they both look adorable but it's just way too casual for a first date. >> okay. thanks. >> they look authentic. but that's just me. >> he think he's being charming. she's thinking, i guess i'm paying for dinner. >> interesting. >> the next is what we wish you guys would wear. the women wish their men would dress this way and the men wish their women would dress this way. tell us about the looks we have. i like both of those. >> they look great. >> they're great. they are classic, timeless. that's what's going on here. >> she's showing toe. >> yes, she is. >> and the toes look good. he's not, which is the key detail. a lot of guys get confused when women try to follow the latest trends. let's face it. they do it for each other. we like something a little more classic and that's what we're seeing. >> she looks phenomenal. she's showing just the right amount. it's not too much cleavage. but her legs are there. the perfect right length. just above the knee. and men really do love killer shoes. >> any gal with a white button down is a home run. >> looks like james bond -- >> yeah, yeah. what do you guys think? >> i'm going to give a thumbs

up. >> eh. >> why? >> i -- >> okay. that was succinct. >> there's nothing that wows me about the outfit. it's not that it's bad. but -- >> okay. >> that's the thing. everybody is different. >> okay, well -- >> they're not trying too hard. i like that. >> all right. it's classic. >> all right, so this is an example of what a man and woman would wear if it was totally up to them. no one weighed in. this is what she would choose and he'd choose. >> i think they both look like they just stepped out of the j. crew catalog in a really good way. we all want to look this relaxed yet pulled together at the same time. and it's the combination of sort of relaxed classic pieces but it's all styled and polished. i think they look adorable. >> i'm going to agree. i mean, look, speaking for the guys, there's a new generation of guys out there that wants to put in a little effort. that wants -- >> >> they like clothes. >> they like clothes. you know, but they're practical. everything you see here can be

worn somewhere else. the blazer from h&m is like 70 bucks. you can wear that in a million different places. a lot of guys won't do the pocket square. but that's an $8 pocket square. >> kids, peanut gallery. >> i love them both. >> i'm pro pocket square. >> you are? >> two thumbs up. >> yeah. >> love them both? >> thanks, guys. >> disagreed with everything. >> thanks, guys. what should you cook for a dinner party when he wants one thing? >> we have two recipes for a successful marriage and a meal. first this is "today" on nbc.

♪ i know what boys like it's time for "he said, she said" what's cooking. and we've all about there. you are throwing a big dinner party and you and your significant other cannot agree on what to prepare. >> here to show us a few delicious compromises are authors of "just married and cooking" brooke parkers and james christiane. sorry. how come you don't have the same names? is there a story there? never mind. >> no, not now. >> let's not reveal. >> this is one of those things. sometimes it gets difficult when two people have two different ideas of how to throw a dinner party. >> absolutely. it's all about compromise. we're trier -- trying to keep things happy in the kitchen. >> we start with a beverage? >> your best bargaining chip is a good cocktail. this is a good place to start off. so this is like a ricky, classic ricky but we're making it with -- so ricky is lime juice, soda, usually vodka or gin. we're making it with johnny walker. instead. delicious. >> a mixture of --

i get my stuff. she gets her fresh citrusy drink. we're both happy. >> wow would think about johnny walker in a girl's cocktail. but -- >> that's really good. >> ricky? >> the ricky walker we're call it. >> we're happy with this. the cocktails and we move in to the apps. he's a typical guy. bacon, bacon, bacon. that's all he wants. i want summer veggies. so we're compromising with our warm tomato salad with a corn and bacon vinaigrette. >> beautiful fresh tomatoes. crispy bacon. >> ogsment 6 okay. so then for our main course, again, we want to make everybody happy. i get to grill meat. we throw the grilled meat on top of a pretty salad. we'll make a marinade for the stakes. garlic, soy sauce. >> a pinch or all of it? >> all of it. >> and lemon. >> and lemon. >> whisk that all together and then over the steak. >> that was fast.

>> that's easy. leave that to marinade. it can sit 30 minutes or overnight. it can sit overnight. it doesn't matter. >> look whose veggies are cooking here. >> with the steak salad, i want some beautiful summer peaches. grilled onions. so with that, i am going to add a little bit of salt. some sugar. and then the tabasco sauce is going to be great because -- >> spicy peaches. >> wow! >> it actually enhances the sweet flavor of the peaches. >> we just have a few seconds. come on back and let's eat. >> let's come to the back. let's finish this up. we have beautiful grill marks on the steaks. >> she starts setting it up for us. >> before it goes on the grill. helps to get those beautiful grill marks. >> i'm adding mint to the salad. of course, you are. olive oil, balsamic vinaigrette. tossing everything together. >> all the recipes can be found on klgandhoda.com. >> this looks delicious. can we try it? >> we k >> we want to wish you guys a fabulous day and amazing weekend and we'll see you for fun day monday. >> they're adorable.

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