good thursday morning, coming up on "early today," no deal. a meeting of america's top leaders produces next to nothing as the country begins feeling the effects of a partial government shutdown. exclusive interviews, president obama speaks out on the debt ceiling dilemma and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu lashes iran. tragic accident, a north carolina church group's outing takes a horrific turn. plus, legendary cold war writer tom clancy has died. also, a close call for one commu commuter. and grass prices continue to drop. "early today" starts right now. >> good morning, everybody. i'm betty nguyen. there is still little movement

towards getting the government back up and running and this morning, president obama is speaking out on continued gridlock with republicans. >> during the course of my presidency, i have bent over backwards to work with the republican party and have purposely kept my rhetoric down. when you have a situation in which a faction is willing potentially to default on u.s. government obligations, then we are in trouble. >> all right. so those comments capped a night of meetings at the white house between the president and congressional leaders. their first since the shutdown. but it ended with no deal. house speaker john boehner saying the president won't budge. >> the president reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate. we had a nice conversation, a polite conversation, but at some point, we've got to allow the process that our founders

gave us to work out. >> on the senate side majority leader harry reid's latest offer to house republicans was rejected. he suggested a cease-fire deal calling to fully fund the government then negotiate on spending levels in order to pass a so-called clean bill just 17 republicans would have to break rank. but this morning there is expected to be another round of political ping-pong and for that nbc's danielle leigh joins us live in washington. good morning, danielle. what's ahead today. >> reporter: good morning, from the looks of things this government shutdown is going to last for at least one more day. lawmakers here on capitol hill are getting ready for another day of political ping-pong and for now both sides are digging in their heels. the republican-led house is going to continue to fund the government one piece at a time. on their to-do list fund

veterans, army reserve and the district of columbia and already voted to open u.s. national parks and tons of patients were turned away, 200, plus kids with cancer. now, the senate many dids say, no, they want to fund the whole government at once. meanwhile, on capitol hill the protests will continue. small business owners are coming here to tell lawmakers that the shutdown is bad for business. and the longer that the shutdown continues the more likely it becomes, that the fight to fund the government will coincide with another fight coming up to raise the debt limit so the nation can pay its bills. reporting live in washington, i'm danielle leigh, betty, back to you. more now on cnbc's john harwood's ex-dlus sieve one-on-one with the president. mr. obama discusses the current budget battle and has a grim message for people over the debt ceiling fight. >> wall street has been pretty calm about this. the reaction i would say generally speaking has been washington fighting, washington

posturing, yada, yada, yada. is that the right way to look at it. >> no, i think they should be concerned. one thing i know the american people are tired of is this constant governing from crisis to crisis. we have to stop doing that. let's get a budget that allows people to plan over the long term that allows us to deal with our fiscal problems in a sensible, reasonable way. >> well, so far wall street has virtually shrugged off the d.c. dysfunction. stocks rose tuesday and futures are flat this morning. we're also following a developing story off the southern coast of italy. at least 92 people are dead after a migrant boat sank overnight. the italian coast guard tells nbc news crews rescued more than 150 people but as many as 300 more are possibly still missing

at sea. all the migrants are believed to be from sub-saharan african countries. we'll keep an eye on this story. now to what was supposed to be three days of singing and laughing and preaching, well that turned tragic. eight people were killed when a north carolina church group's bus blew a tire then flipped over after slamming into a tractor trailer and suv. 14 people are injured and an investigation is underway. >> in my 17 years probably the most serious incident that i've ever been a part of involving three vehicles and the die names are great. >> at the front street church wednesday people were crying and hugging each other. six of the victims are believed to be members of the young at heart seniors program. they were coming home from a fall jubilee at the time of the crash and parishioners are shaken. to benjamin netanyahu's

warning to the world, iran cannot be trusted. he spoke with nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell on the heels of his u.n. address. >> you don't want to be in a position where this epoqapocaly radical regime where has these wild notions get as way with building the weapons of mass destruction. >> why not give this man a chance? >> are you kidding, they'd go in blue jeans and these iranian people, the majority are pro-western but they don't have that. they're governed not by rouhani, they're governed buy ayatollah khomeini. that cult is wild in its ambition and aggression. >> rouhani says it's for peaceful purposes only. he hopes harsh sanctions will be eased as negotiations with the

west continue including diplomatic gesture like rouhani's phone call with president obama, but netanyahu says rouhani is a wolf in sheep's clothing. it was an extremely close call for one bicyclist in england. closed circuit tv footage captures the biker ignoring -- oh, my goodness to shave off time on her commute but just before she crosses the rails, a massive commuter train as you just saw -- >> amazing stuff. >> 75 miles per hour, bill barrels down the track, thanks to her quick reflections makes this into an important lesson instead of a horrible tragedy. >> i don't know how she stopped that fast. >> we're all looking to save time, right. but you don't go up against a commuter train. >> her time was almost up. forget saving time. in the west big storm that hit the northwest moving through the rockies and snowstorm, one of the biggest for this early in the season we've seen had a long time is on its way to areas from wyoming to montana to the

central plain, the cold air is moving into place, it's 40s in boise, billings is at 42, still kind of chilly in areas of oregon with temperatures in the 40s so one of those days to bundle the kids up. at least the rain is gone. winter storm warnings go up if denver all the way through wyoming into southern montana and eventually that snow will head into the dakotas too talking significant snow here. i mean this is no joke. 6 to 12 inches of heavy, wet snow widespread and a few places will get a foot including casper city. we're clearing it out. we'll see sunshine. still a cold chilly air mass, highs only 50s in much of washington state. california, that storm system is still to your north looking warm today. phoenix at 91 and vegas, not bad, 84. back to your national mostly

sunny. so we finally get a couple of dry days in the northwest before the next storm. >> the calm before the storm. okay. thank you, bill. well, as the shutdown continues private sector jobs will also be lost. we'll tell you where. plus, about 108 members or 20% of our elected leaders in washington are offering to donate their hefty salaries to charity during the shutdown while many members of their staff are going without a paycheck. we're back in two minutes with top stories.

welcome back, everybody. police say the bomb scare that shut down the jacksonville airport was all just a hoax. a 39-year-old man has been arrested and charged. his bail has been set at a million dollars. also in court wednesday, a

biker involved in that motorcycle melee in new york city, christopher cruz arraigned on assault charges. one psych macyclist remains in hospital and retained gloria allred. aig live was not responsible for michael jackson's death. after a five-month trial jurors cleared the company of negligence when it hired dr. murray. the jackson family has sued for more than a billion dollars. the family of legendary radio man casey kasem is taking to the streets of l.a. three of their kids have not seen their 81-year-old dad in months and say his wife, jean, won't open the door and let them in. and the author behind some of the best thrillers of all-time has died. tom clancy passed away overnight after a brief illness. his debut novel "the hunt for red october" is frequently cited as one of the best novels written of that

genre. tom clancy was just 66 years old. now we turn to kayla tausche. good morning, kayla. >> good morning. united technologies may have to furlough up to 5,000 workers if the government shutdown extends into next week. the company says employees at itsy corps ski unit which makes black hawk helicopters would be the first to sent home. holiday sales are expected to rise 4%. economic concerns including the government shutdown could impact shoppers' spending plans. and target is launching its own prepaid wireless service this weekend for $35 a month customers can get unlimited talk and text and forevery six months of service they'll get a $25 gift card. betty, back to you. >> all right. thank you, kayla. the cost for a gallon of gas has dropped six cents in a week and a chlaaa says the average i

3.36. people trying to enjoy fall foliage like virginia's skyline drive are closed until kong gets its packet together.

they say no good deed goes unpunished. and some days it seems true. but we keep on doing the things that matter& like buying new raspberry 5 hour energy. from now to the end of the year, a portion of each sale... benefits living beyond breast cancer, to empower women affected by breast cancer. new raspberry 5 hour energy. it's one good deed that will go just right. well, a long government shutdown can cost all of us as proven by the '95/'96 shutdown that lasted three weeks and

caused the s&p 500 to drop 3.7%. now, let's get the latest in sports. game on for the u.s. military academy. the government shutdown was not affe affecting saturday's game. they did confirm saturday's matchup between air force at navy. that is going to go on as scheduled. but before the game was confirmed united airlines was ready to help out tweeting "we hate cancellations so we are offering to fly air force to this year's air force/navy game. "not needed but thanks anyway. tampa bay beat out the indians. in the win or go home single elimination game. impressive 6 2/3 innings were pitched. rays, 4, indians, 0. so many upton, so little time. supermodel kate upton glams up the baseball playoff edition of "sports illustrated" hoisted up

by the upton brother, b.j. and justin, the beauty grazed the cover twice as many may remember making this her first time on the cover of a regular issue of "s.i." and she is fully clothed. san francisco 49 remembers donte whitner hasn't been taking his punishment lightly. after a fine for this hit he says he's officially changing his name to hitner. no more whitner. just hitner. derrick rose stars in a new adidas commercial. the former nba mvp hasn't played a game for the bulls in over a year because of a torn ligament in his knee but as you can see right there he seems to be a-okay. it is whiffle ball, folks on the ice. check it out, the pittsburgh penguins showed support for the pirates first playoff appearance in 21 years by playing some whiffle ball after their practice. wearing pirates shirts over

their uniforms this was some of the penguin players' first time playing the sport as you can tell by the lack of skill there. well, just ahead. actress mia farrow drops a paternity bombshell. plus, it is one of the world's deadliest sharks, so what would you do if you found one in trouble? see what one fisherman did next. first, during the last shutdown in 1995/1996, furloughed workers were given back pay when the government re-opened. departments have not said if retroactive pay will be available this time around. we'll be back.

welcome back. the winter storm moving through the rockies, how about the one heading for california? not the storm of precipitation but wins and very low humidity, very concerned about the fire danger from thursday night all the way through the weekend. probably till at least sunday and the temperatures will warm up. the santa ana whips will kick up like a buzz term you hear. 88 degrees in l.a. as we go into friday then over the weekend the santa ana wins will bring temperatures up to the low 90s. very dry and they're concerned and have extra fire crews stashed because they're concerned with new fires. >> okay, thank you, bill. turning to entertainment, the final coroner's report for cory monteith has been released and finds he died from a mix of heroin and alcohol. it also states drug

paraphernalia was found in the actor's hotel room. there is a new lorde of the billboards. i've seen her live. she is amazing and only 16 years old, folks. she's from new zealand. number one on billboard's hot 100 list with her song "royal." she is the youngest artist to top that chart since 1987. remember tiffany. this had the top spot for "i think we're alone now." britney spears has something to say to congress. it fits perfectly with her new single. she tweeted some modified lyrics. go call the police, go call the governor. someone tell congress to get to to #workb, asterisk, asterisk, ch. >> robin quivers is back and she'll talk about her struggle

later on the "today" show. universal announced "ted" would be filming a sequel. who's your daddy? in an interview with "vanity fair" magazine mia farrow says her son ronan may be frank sinatra's child. what? and not woody allen's? oh, my, sinatra would have been 78 actually at the time of conception and though that is a bit old based on the photos, the resemblance is pretty uncanny. >> i'm no scientific expert but don't we have technology to do this. >> let's get a paternity test, folks. let's check it out. i don't know. i think by looking at him, would you want sinatra or woody? i'd say sinatra. i'm betty nguyen. this is "early today."

leading the news, los angeles high schools now confiscate all free ipads they gave students. thousands have been repossessed after they figured out how to hack the security settings. can knocking on wood help your psyche? superstitious rituals may reverse per session of bad luck. a new study find movements that exert force away from the body can treat the sense that bad luck or misfortune is being knocked away. let's knock on wood that works. some stories you might have missed just for good measure. day three -- don't tell everybody. day three of the government shutdown and still, yep, no deal in sight. the first meeting between the

president and congressional leaders since the shutdown made no headway and john boehner called the conversation polite but said the president will not budge. a federal judge orders a monitor to keep arizona sheriff joe arpaio's office from racial profiling especially of latinos when cracking down on illegal immigration. the monitor will review the maricopa county sheriff's policies and procedures and make sure the operations are carried out in a, quote, race neutral fashion. and this is something you have to see to believe. a florida fisherman released a 300-pound bull shark that he actually caught but it didn't start swimming and even though they are the most deadly and most likely to attack humans, he did not seem to care. he actually jumped right in the water to revive the shark. >> and almost killed. >> which makes no sense? discovery in southwest china, looks like it could be out of the pages of alice in wonderland. a farmer stumbled upon a group

of tangled mushrooms that measure more than three feet high and weigh just over 180 pounds. it actually took 67 workers to dig out this massive fungi which has been confirmed, bill, confirmed by the world recorder association as the largest edible mushroom in the world many i'm not expert but that looks like a whole bunch of mushrooms. >> it must have had just one stem. must have all come -- >> look at you sounding like an expert. checks for alaska residents today since oil was discovered in alaska, every person who lived in the state for at least a year receives money from the alaska permanent fund and this year it is 900 bucks. that is up $22 from last year. also want to say happy birthday to ashlee simpson, 29. gwen stefani, 44 today and civil rights activist and talk show host al sharpton is 59. keep it right here for more news, weather and sports.

i'm betty nguyen. have a great day.

new this morning, habitat for humanity volunteers robbed at gunpoint at a construction site. we'll show you why the secret service is now being called in. >> plus, redwood city police on the lookout for this man who tried to lure a teenage boy into his car with drugs. it all happened in the school parking lot. >> seven days and counting, we'll give you the latest on the no negotiations between b.a.r.t. and the union. >> a live look this morning outside, no, that's the beautiful bay bridge. the weekend is approaching because it's already thursday, october 3, this is "today in the bay."