good morning. losing hope. talks over proposals to end the government shutdown break down in the house, leaving a potential resolution up to the senate. a rare sunday session is planned for today. but will it end with a deal. mystery in new mexico. several tns from a ranch at at-risk youth still missing this morning. nearly 48 hours after they disappeared. this, as investigators look into allegations of abuse against the owner of that ranch. and the controversial actor now says he's out. we'll tell you why, sunday, ost 13th, 2013.

>> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today." with lester holt, and erica hill, live, from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. and welcome to "today" on this sunday morning. i'm erica hill. >> and i'm lester hill. and we want to get right to today's top story, the government shutdown is now 13 days old. >> of course, that's not all at this point. we're now just four days away from the country starting to run out of money to pay its wills. >> still, there is no deal, and no sense this morning that lawmakers are any closer to reaching an agreement. kristen welker is at the white house to tell us more. kristen, good morning. >> reporter: lester, good morning. any hopes for a deal rests with the senate where negotiators will be back at the negotiating table today. with the markets set to open tomorrow, everyone from economists to average americans are hoping that progress comes soon. it's day 13 of the government

shutdown, and the public's patience with washington has just about run out. >> enough is enough. we need to stop all of this craziness. >> reporter: the gridlock hurting small business owners, like this florida-based fisherman. >> the park being closed means we can't go fishing. that means we can't make any money. >> reporter: on capitol hill, a flurry of activity saturday with democrats and republicans spearheading the negotiations. >> the conversations were very cordial, but very preliminary, of course. >> reporter: the president met with top senators late in the day, but no deal in sight. still, more lawmakers are now calling for compromise. >> the voters have put in place split government. that means you don't get everything that you want. >> reporter: one bright spot this weekend? the statue of liberty, mount rushmore, and grand canyon are reopening, thanks to state and private funding.

>> the state is stepping up, doing their jobs for them. >> reporter: but with the nation just four days away from potentially defaulting on its loans, if lawmakers don't raise the debt ceiling, there are deep worries about the economy. in an exclusive interview with david gregory airing on "meet the press," christine lagarde said the impasse would be felt far and wide. >> that would bring about so much uncertainty, so much risk of disruption, that the standing in the u.s. economy would again be at risk. >> reporter: now, economists warn if a deal remains elusive, the markets could start to get jittery. democrats say they want the government reopened and the debt ceiling increased. republicans say they want some concessions for that, like scaling back the president's health care law. >> kristen welker at the white house this morning, thanks. nice to see you back this morning, david. >> good morning. >> we're nearly two weeks now

into the government shutdown. four days away from the default. is time running out? >> well, it is, because the default's coming on thursday. and everybody, christine lagarde, who you just heard, in the piece, the president, business leaders, all saying, please, congress, don't mess with this risk of default because of the economic shocks that would surely follow. we've been watching the markets. the markets still think there's going to be a deal. they've been pretty tame. i think that could change as you get deeper into the upcoming week if the deal is not possible. >> there is concern we could start to see that change as quickly as tomorrow. >> right. >> in terms of time running out, though, even if there's some sort of agreement in the senate, there's no guarantee that would be agreed to in the house. >> that's absolutely true. house republicans seem pretty set on that. let's focus on the positive here. it is in the senate. they have more of a history of being able to wheel and deal a little bit and perhaps create momentum to put the house in a very difficult position to say

no. the other glimmer of hope here is we're talking about money. we're not talking about getting rid of obama care. it could actually get negotiated and compromise. we're talking about spending levels. this is typically what congress fights about and they shut the government down over. >> what about the president's strategy here in all of this? >> reporter: i think you have to look at it from the point of view of a president who says, i i'm worried about the future of the presidency, i don't have to stand for reelection again, so i have to have a firm line here. he knew this deadline was coming. i think he wanted to kind of work the republicans in a way that they say, they're trying to take over obama care, repeal it. the public "not for that, even though there's a lot of opposition to obama care in the polls. he's kind of drawn this line and he's stuck to it. i think he's got larger gains here than the immediate default. but this is very risky, even from his point of view. remember, two years ago, the president was also held in very

low esteem by the public as they got closer to a default. >> david, thanks. we'll check in with you later. officials in india are assessing the damage after the powerful cyclone slammed onshore saturday, but despite the destruction, there are very few reports of deaths. dylan is here with a look at that. sounds like the evacuations paid off. >> they certainly did. this storm was extremely powerful when it came onshore. the evacuation order for hundreds of thousands of people seemed to have saved a lot of lives. the full fury of cyclone phailin slammed into india saturday, with winds of 125 miles per hour, as strong as a cat 3 hurricane. the storm surge is usually what causes the most damage, and this one is estimated at a whopping 11 feet. 12 million people were in the path of the storm, at least a half a million fled to higher

ground and huddled in make-shift shelters. this man says his house has been destroyed. power is out in much of the province, where the storm hit. the cyclone was enormous by any standard. this nasa photo shows the system stretching over nearly the entire bay of bengal, a monster measuring 750 miles across, nearly the distance from new york to chicago. its power similar to hurricane katrina in 2005. the last time a storm of this size hit this area of india, back in 1999, 10,000 people lost their lives. indian authorities prepared for a huge storm, but the job of search and rescue won't be easy. >> there are a lot of people, farmers, fishermen, they live in small places. getting to them by only radio, that's very difficult. >> now it's all about the cleanup. the good news is, this storm is pretty much wiped out at this point. it was at one point, again, the whole size of the bay of bengal.

you could see the eye of this storm at one point nearly equivalent to a category 5 hurricane. but as soon as it made landfall yesterday morning, it has weakened ever since. now there's hardly anything left. now it's time for the cleanup efforts. >> quite an effort in itself. dylan, thanks. there are more questions about the mysterious disappearance of a group of teenagers from a new mexico ranch for at-risk youth. some teens are back home with their parents this morning, but not all. there are troubling allegations of abuse at the ranch raising new questions. kristen dahlgren has more this morning. good morning, kristen. >> reporter: good morning, erica. it appears the teens are slowly being returned to their families, but investigators are very concerned. this is remote new mexico. we're about three hours south of albuquerque. not much out here. but normally teens are living at the 30,000-acre ranch. on friday, though, when authorities got here, it was completely abandoned.

tiara blanca ranch, claiming to be a haven for those at risk. >> we'll make you part of our family. >> reporter: this morning the focus of a search and investigation, after nine boys were reported missing on friday. >> when you suddenly show up to the place and everybody's gone, a huge concern to us. >> reporter: authorities issued an amber alert for the teens, ages between 13 and 17, fearing they might be in danger. the ranch owner was also gone. at least four boys were returned to their families saturday. but as the search by air and land of the massive 30,000-acre ranch continues, they wonder what took place here. they were court ordered to return the boys to their parents after years of abuse allegations. chandler was the focus of an investigation by a reporter. >> they were tortured, beat, shackled, deprived of food,

threatened that they would be castrated if they didn't complete all the work. >> reporter: ryan morgan was too emotional to tell the story of his alleged beating, so his friend did. >> knuckled him in the forehead, repetitively. just like this, over his foreread. >> reporter: mark fleming sat down with nbc news on saturday. >> they had to be in handcuffs and shackles throughout the entire day and while they were sleeping. >> reporter: barbara sent her son there for treatment. a decision she now regrets. >> you go out as a parent to do the best thing for your kid and it blows up in your face. >> reporter: chandler vehemently denies the charges. he said he's suing to halt the interference. but on thursday before he disappeared, he wouldn't answer questions about the alleged abuse. >> it's blown out of proportion. >> reporter: a lawyer for chandler said the teens are safe and insist they were on a

regularly scheduled outing. supporters came out in support of chandler saying this place changed his life, even one saying he would trust scott chandler to hold him off the empire state building. >> kristen, thank you. craig melvin standing by with the top stories. >> good morning. new york police crack a cold case that plagued them for more than two decades. they've charged 52-year-old juarez with the murder in the death of a girl known as baby hope. he admitted to sexually abusing and smothering her. they say a new tip and dna test led them to juarez. they released the girl's identity. she was a 4-year-old. there's a so-called insider attack on u.s. troops, another one. officials say an afghan man wearing an afghan army uniform shot american soldiers in east

afghanistan. he killed at least one of them. it comes just a day after news that u.s. and afghan leaders reached an agreement in principle allowing the american troops to stay in afghanistan, after next year. we'd like to correct a story that we reported saturday here on "today." we told you about a costco store in san francisco. recalling nearly 40,000 pounds of chicken over concerns of salmonella poisoning. according to the usda, it includes foster farms rotisserie chickens. we wanted to correct a mistake. we said the salmonella outbreak has killed more than 300 people. that's not accurate. it's made 300 people sick. our apologies. a potentially deadly bacteria is raising concerns in florida this morning. mark potter has more ton that. >> reporter: henry went fishing for crabs near almond beach, florida. but back home his wife, patty, saw something wrong. >> during the night, he woke up, there was a small abrasion on his ankle. we thought it was a spider bite.

>> reporter: by morning, he was in terrible pain. and rushed to the hospital as the infection spread. >> it just ravaged his body so fast. >> reporter: two days later he died. the victim of a flesh-eating bacteria, which is commonly found in warm saltwater. doctors say there are two ways to be infected by it. >> one is from an open sore on the body. typically the legs, where you walk out into the warm salty or brackish water. >> reporter: infection can also happen by eating tainted, uncooked shellfish, especially oysters. this year there have been 32 known infections in florida and ten deaths. although the cdc says the threat extends along the gulf coast. doctors say this bacteria can be especially dangerous for people with already compromised immune systems. but for most people, there's little to worry about. experts caution anyone with cuts or sores to stay out of the

water. and to cook shellfish, especially people who are already unhealthy. to avoid this warm water threat. mark potter, nbc news, miami. smashing pumpkins? it may be okay for the sake of science. budding scientists showing off their creativity at the annual pumpkin chunking festival. competitors of all ages build the best contraptions and launch the gourds and watch them explode. >> good stuff. >> they spent their saturday there. >> that's what we need to do with after halloween. >> that's impressive. some of those contraptions are pretty elaborate. >> some of them are a few centuries old. >> those in the for tur, they both work. dylan is back with a check of the national forecast. hello again. >> most of the country looking okay today.

we've got a couple of spotty showers up and down the east coast. going through the rest of the weekend, we are still going to see more heavy rain across parts of texas. but we're also going to see some snow. especially back through wyoming and into areas like south dakota where we are going to see in rapid city the snow start to spread eastward. you can see here we are at noontime on monday. then that snow does start to spread into the rapid city area. we are unfortunately going to see another several inches of rainfall possible in parts of texas. it's this area across central texas we could end up with more flood watches and warnings because of the amount of rain we're going to see. heading back to the north and west, it looks like this area north of casper, we could end up with about a foot of snowfall and a few inches moving into rapid city as we go into especially tomorrow night, or, tonight into monda and we're seeing a clear, cool start to the morning in

oakland right now. our temperatures around the bay area ranging from the low 40s in the north bay and down around morgan hill to 48 san jose, 51 in san francisco. for the afternoon today, highs very similar to what we saw yesterday. that means mid-70s inland and the valleys. 60s closer to san francisco. 70 in oakland today. we will see the wind picking up this afternoon out of the northwest. temperatures climb for the first part of the week. and that is your latest forecast. erica? >> dylan, thanks. up next on "today." >> dare devils who just can't up [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! how do you sleep like that? you dry up, your cold feels even worse. well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip, and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more

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you're watching "today in the bay." >> good morning to you. looking live at the dark sky, sunrise is coming, but even when it comes, it's going to be a little cool today. thanks for joining us. i'm kris sanchez along with rob maye mayeda. >> it looked like "groundhog day," that movie, we're just reliving the forecast. we have the clear sky this is morning, chilly again. we have low 40s around the north bay. 48 in san jose. 51 in san francisco and oakland. for the afternoon, these highs similar to yesterday, low 70s in san jose. 70 in oakland and 76 in livermore. winds picking up for the afternoon out of the northwest. we'll see some dry and breezy conditions for the first half of the week and temperatures on the

coast by midweek close to 70 and near 80 inland around livermore starting tuesday. >> all right. thanks, rob. new this morning, police say a suspected drunk driver is lucky that he is alive this morning after the car he was driving went through the front of an east bay home. the crash happened just before 2:30 this morning on the 700 block of west tennyson road. officers say the driver was speeding and hit the curb launching the car through the air and then through the front porch. luckily the owners of the home were not at home at the time of the crash. police say the driver did not suffer any injuries miraculously. he was taken into custody after being checked out at the scene. just hours until the deadline, and still no deal. b.a.r.t. and its unions will spend the day trying to iron out a new contract that would strike tomorrow morning's commute. another part of the contract ended without a deal. union leaders around b.a.r.t.

officials say they will return to the table at 9:30 this morning. union negotiators say the good news is plenty of details have been agreed upon. the two sides continue to place the blame though on each other. >> we still hope that we get this thing done. you know, whether or not we don't and they do, that's up to them, not us. we don't stop the trains. >> i think there are two things. one is that they definitely have the resources available, but they seem to be fixed on some certain points, and it seems more political than economic or financial. >> union officials say the heavier issues like health care and pay remain a tipping point. parents had been put on alert this morning. lafayette police believe they have now found the man who tried to kidnap an 8-year-old child. investigators say 57-year-old ralph grows, a transient, tried to grab a child around 11:00 yesterday morning near the lafayette library. but a parent intervened and took the child to safety.

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it's my 10th birthday. i want to say high to reed, evan and katy in jupiter. we just finished our mbas, now we're celebrating on the "today" show. i'm debby from virginia, i want to wish my daughter katy a happy 18th birthday. >> happy birthday katy! nice crowd getting into the moment here. we appreciate them on this sunday morning, october 13, 2013. little brisk out here. >> it is a little brisk. >> coats came flying out. >> i made the mistake yesterday of not having a coat on. i learned my lesson.

>> i followed your lead. >> and you do the weather. >> good point. >> minor detail. thanks for being here. we have a lot to cover this next half hour. the story of madeleine mccann has been in the news a lot recently. we'll tell you morebout promising signs perhaps in the search for the little girl and new developments in the international hunt. we'll also take you to a pretty spectacular sight to see in the sky. more than 500 balloons at the albuquerque international balloon fiesta. i'm going to introduce you to one family, three generations of licensed pilots, all the way from grandpa down to his granddaughter who is just 17 years old. also ahead, you know how sometimes you're up late at night and come across one of those infomercials, and you can't turn away? turns out there's a lot of strategy, a lot of time, a lot of work that goes into getting you hooked. we'll take a look behind the scenes at how it all happens. you start off thinking no

way, i'm never going to buy that. by the end you're like, i need this. >> didn't you buy something the other night? >> i can show you my drawer in my bathroom. >> i think i need this. >> it's amazing what you need at 3:00 in the morning. also coming up, take a look at the newest guinness world record holder. he's norman the dog. we'll tell you exactly what he did to make it into the books. >> oh, look at that! >> that is one cute dog. >> yeah, he is. >> he can just take over the last half hour of the show. >> he really could. first, you a check of the weather. >> yes, i development besides it being a little chilly, we also have a couple of birthdays here, 10th birthday. where are you from? >> jupiter, florida. >> do you feel any different now that it's double digits? >> yes. >> do you feel great for being 60? >> i feel great being 60. we'll see pretty rainy weather in parts of the middle of the country, especially in

texas where we had a lot of rain yesterday, up to three inches in parts of texas. we're looking at another several inches of rain especially later today and into tomorrow as well. thunderstorms across texas. tomorrow we have a better chance of seeing strong storms across parts of kansas into oklahoma. we'll watch out for stronger storms out that way and snow, perhaps several inches of sno and here is a view of the golden gate bridge right now. we have mostly clear skies, and our temperatures as we get into the afternoon today will be climbing into the 60s and 70s. 73 degrees san jose, 67 in san francisco, 76 in livermore. temperature trend over the next couple days will be a little warmer but with some north winds at times inland close to 80 and near 70 on the coast tuesday into wednesday. then some cooling with more clouds approaching next weekend. . today's top spot comes to us from craig melvin's hometown.

his mom betty is sure to be watching right now. this is from our friends at wis in columbia, south carolina. this is for the dog lovers. it's pooch a palooza, make sure to stop by this doggy-themed festival. there will be dogs up for adoption as well as a dog fashion show and kissing booth. it's been more than six years since madeleine mccann disappeared while she was on vacation with her family in portugal. but this morning there's new hope in the case as her parents speak out on tv. annabel roberts has more. >> reporter: could this be the key to solving the mystery of the disappearance of masculine mccann, the little girl collecting tennis balls for her parents shortly before she vanished, now a crucial part of a reconstruction set to be broadcast in britain. it's been six years since the 3-year-old vanished from a portuguese resort, left sleeping

in this vacation apartment while her parents ate dinner close by. british police say the accepted sequence of events may be wrong. >> the careful and critical analysis of the timeline has been absolutely key. primarily we're focused on the area between 8:30 and 10:00. we know at 8:30, that was the time that mr. and ms. mccann went down for their dinner, and we know at around 10:00 p.m., that is when ms. mccann found that madeleine was missing. >> for her parents, missing madeleine does not get easier. >> when it's a special occasion, when you should be your happiest and madeleine is not tlrks that's when it really hits home. >> when you have big family occasions, it's real. >> reporter: the recent discovery of the three women abducted by ariel castro in ohio show people do come home. police used cell phone data to see who was in the area when she disappeared and are releasing

computer generated sketches of men they urgently want to find. they're hoping the reconstruction of her final moments broadcast here on "crime watch" will jog memories and held solve this mystery once and for all. for today, annabel roberts, nbc news, london. this past year is one of triumph for a young georgia woman who battled back after losing all four limbs to a flesh eating bacteria. this weekend she came one step closer to regaining her independence. here is michelle fran sken. >> i'm excited and nervous. >> reporter: after a year of waiting, amy copeland has a new companion, and that companion comes with a wet nose and wagging tail. >> it's great to know she's going to be mine. >> reporter: the labradoodle service dog will remind her when to take her medications and even fetch them for her. trainers gave the dog a year of intensive and specialized training. >> she has to learn not only to

bring things and pick up dropped things, but she also had to learn what things are, like what a towel is a, what a bottle of juice is. so we had to teach her all of that plus object recognition. >> reporter: she officially became amy's at a fund-raiser that included a petting zoo, music festival and 5k race. it's been over a year since the georgia grad student was injured in a zip lining accident and nearly died after the gash in her leg became infected with a rare flesh eating bacteria. doctors had to am pew tate her left leg, right foot and both hands. >> i'm so excited. it looks great. >> reporter: this spring amy received a set of high-tech prosthetic hands. now bell will add to that freedom. >> it will make it easier for me in the short term making up things off the ground and also in the long term provide companionship. >> reporter: and give her love along the way. for today, michelle franzen, nbc

news, new york. up next, the magic behind those infomercials that always seem to entice us to buy whatever they're selling, whether we really need it or not, right after these messages.

. this morning in "today's consumer" a look at the science behind the late night infomercials you just can't turn away from. our consumer correspondent janice lieberman got a chance to see how they're put together. >> they get you. >> absolutely. >> we were given the rare opportunity to see what goes into the planning and producing of an infomercial. what we saw was a big operation with proven results. >> five designer colors. >> eight blades. >> and there's even more. were it's a $300 billion a year industry amtd at getting you to buy, buy, buy.

>> a $100 value yours free. >> reporter: even if you had no intention of doing so. >> for free. >> reporter: advertising expert martin lindstrom says you will. >> every infomercial is designed very carefully to convince your brain that this is the moment you have to buy stuff. dopamine is only released for three to four minutes. then is disappears and you don't have that rush. >> reporter: husband and wife duo ken and barbara kerry are behind more than 600 direct response tv campaigns that have generated more than $4 billion in sales. >> what makes it so compelling for us to watch an infomercial. >> we focus on solving problems and demonstrating products. i think that's what makes it interesting. >> reporter: today with paid celebrity endorser marie osmond they're filming an infomercial for the ready made emergency

food company wise. before this 28 1/2 minutes of persuasive magic happens, all this goes on behind the scenes. the kerrys say the infomercial costs between $500,000 and $1 million to produce. from soup to nuts, the project will take six months to complete. >> some people perceive infomercials as sleazy. >> i don't do anything that i don't believe in. i believe in preparing for your family to survive something that could be absolutely devastating. >> reporter: do you think your integrity and your name will sell this product? >> i hoped that would be the case, i think that's why they came to me, because of the integrity of my name. i know i was sold on them when i saw their integrity. >> it's almost like you're talking to your neighbor. >> reporter: that's not to say the products pushed aren't valuable to the people who

purchase them. >> no power, no food, no water. >> reporter: just ask michael doherty. >> most people don't believe testimonials on infomercials are real and are for real person. you're a real person? >> i'm definitely real. i've never been paid. >> reporter: real strategies adding up to real profits. >> please call right now. >> reporter: experts say before you make an immediate purchase, wait and think about it. do online research first. it's easy to weed out the bad products through others' feedback. >> do some end up in stores? >> if you can hold out, you'll be able to get them cheaper and not pay shipping and handling. it's a pain in the neck to return after those infomercials. >> good to know. janice, thanks very much. up, up and away with three generations who take their love of hot air balloons to new heights. first these messages. hey lena, what ya looking for?

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mexico are filled with bright colors and big balloons for the international balloon festival there. people come from all over the world to see and take part. among them, one very special family with three generations of licensed ballooning pilots. >> over the course of the fiesta near think three-quarters of a million people turn out to watch more than 500 balloons come to life, many of them with a style and a shape all their own. >> somehow the balloon provides a release. i enjoy the freedom of it. >> ray bare flew his first balloon nearly 40 years ago, starting a family tradition that includes now three generations of pilots. the youngest, his granddaughter erin was 17. >> which came first, driver's license or pilot's license? >> pilot's license. >> are you more comfortable

piloting a car or a balloon? >> a balloon. >> in these circles, the bare name carries a lot of weight. >> it's a marginal amount of pressure. i know if i do anything wrong, it's not only on my head, but my father and grandfather. but also i found that people assume that since i was trained by my father and grandfather, i just must be an amazing pilot. >> not only do we enjoy the family legacy of ballooning, but i think for young people especially, it teaches skills that you cannot learn in other places. >> reporter: the balloon or envelope is made of lightweight rip-stop nylon, more commercial balloons are 70 feet tall and weigh 250 pounds. the baskets or gondolas come in at 400 pounds. specialty shapes can be much larger. >> how tall is this balloon itself? >> lengthwise i think it's 120 feet. widthwise probably 70 feet. >> reporter: no matter the size, though, they all get off the

ground the same way. >> how does this work? >> it's really simple. the warmer the balloon is, the more weight it can lift. when you heat the balloon to a certain temperature, then it would lift all the basket and passengers and all the weight of the balloon itself. >> reporter: ideal conditions are cool and calm with winds of no more than 12 miles an hour, allowing these majestic creations to float on the breeze, slowly dancing across the sky. what's it like to watch not only your sons but also your granddaughter pilot these balloons? >> i'm pretty proud. >> reporter: a passion that runs deep in this family. they are pretty special family. everybody within the fiesta knows of the bare family. this is a major impact on the city of albuquerque, big sense of pride, links in close to $11 million and creates the equivalent of 1,600 full-time jobs for the festival.

>> one of those balloons, how much does something like that cost? >> the one we walked in, i think ray said that was about $85,000 when it was purchased. they can be very, very expensive. >> my dad is supposed to be in a hot air balloon right now. i told him to call me if the weather was good enough to go because he was really nervous. >> when you're in one, you are the wind. you don't feel the sensation, it's just like you're part of the air. you can hear everything on the ground. it's amazing. >> it's really dependent on the winds. wednesday morning they were able to fly when we were there. thursday morning it was iffy for a little while. they inflated the balloons but they were tethered because the winds were right around 12 miles an hour. they could tell -- you would understand this more than me, dylan -- they could tell there was a layer of warmth that would make it a little too risky.

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mom swaps one of my snacks for a yoplait. i don't mind, i mean it's orange crème. and when mom said bobby was too edgy... 'sup girl.

i just swapped him out for tyler. 'sup girl. mom never questioned bobby again. two can play at this game. [ female announcer ] swap one snack a week for a yoplait. and everybody wins. yoplait. it is so good. a dog in georgia named norman has set a new record for being the fastest dog ever on a scooter, clocking in at a record time of anything. >> "saturday night live" there having a little fun with the latest guinness world record holder, norman, a french sheepdog. he's 4 years old.

rode his way not only on the scooter but into all of our hearts. >> norman and his mom and trainer karen cobb is here. you've had norman since he was about eight weeks old. >> right. >> did you know he had talent from the get-go. >> i knew he was special. he picked things up really quickly. i had no idea any of this would happen. >> how did he first end up on a scooter? >> the breed is a little skittish so you want to introduce him to strange objects. we had him on the kids' toys onm the back yard. one was a scooter. he loved it. >> the folks at guinness book of world records found out about it and contacted you and said what? >> they were interesting in setting a scooter riding record. >> norman didn't object. he wasn't worried about the fame -- >> he likes attention. >> norman got the record. we actually have jamie here from the guinness book of world

records. >> with an incredible time of 20.77 seconds earlier this summer. i'm pleased to present norman with the official guinness world records title for the fastest 30 meters on a scoot erbie a dog. congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> does the certificate have a treat in it? that's the only way norman is going to care. >> i think he wants the treat more than the plag. >> do we get to have norman show us the trick? >> sure. >> norman, scoot. good job. >> hurray for norman. how great is that. >> very impressive. not to outdo, we want to go to craig in the orange room to see what some of our viewers' pets can do. >> lester, norman apparently inspiring pets all over the world. check this out. this is olga. olga rides horses according to

linda, also wearing denim as well. there's olga. this is actually mr. goombaroo, he also has his own facebook page as well. lots of pictures of the hamster in lots of different outfits. this is our personal favorite. kiwi, the amazon parrot. take it away. >> kiwi, can you say hello. >> hello. >> what's your favorite game to play? >> cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket. >> can you sing for us? ♪ who let the dogs out >> that's good stuff. >> all impressive. not more man though, guys. >> it's tough to be norman. >> i have a dog that can do nothing. >> my dog chases his tail. coming up, a little later on

"meet the press," we have more on the shutdown fight here with the government. are we moving closer now to the brink of an agreement or brink of default? an exclusive interview with the head of the international monetary fund, christine lagarde. former defense secretary leon panetta joins me. plus our political roundtable joins us. all coming up on "meet the press." >> we want to thank norman and carrie and jamie for being here. you can see more record breakers in the 2014 guinness book of world records. >> i think norman should scoot to whoosh wash. if anybody can bring them together, norman can. >> that's a big dog, 70 pounds. thanks, norman. thanks for being here

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good morning. i'm kris sanchez. coming up on "today in the bay," it is down to the wire for b.a.r.t. and its unions. are they making any progress? a scary scene. how police say this car ended up inside a home. also, the latest on the government shutdown. we'll let you know why one popular bay area landmark was allowed to reopen. this is "today in the bay." from nbc bay area, this is "today in the bay." good morning to you. looking live at a very pretty picture of san jose. blue to start as the sun comes up, but will the temperatures come up as well? we'll find out. i'm kris sanchez along with meteorologist rob mayeda, and what do you think? >> the maps are all similar