prioto rouhani's comments, i spe exclusively toecretary of state john kerry moments after the talks hadended. secretary key, welcome back to "meet the prs." >> thank you. good to be with you, vid. >> theottom line goal here is to prevent iran from producing or acquiring a nuclear bomb. you have said that in the interim you want a complete halt on their weapons program. clearly, there's not aeal yet. they are not in a position to gi into that demand. is that aair statement? >> no. i think is a queson, david, of working out the modalities by which it will be done, by which it can be verified, the way in which you have a s of guartees that make aolutely certain that the goal of the president, to make certain iran ner has a nucar weapon can be achieved the first effort is to try to achieve it, obviously, peacefully, and you try to use

an exhaust dlomacy in ordero do that, but the president h taken no option o the ble. >> it sounds like something broke down here, you were vy close to a deal theeporting is the french thoughtt wasn't tough enough on the iranians, and you know the history. as thesraeli prime minister caed rouhani a wolf in sheep's clothing, they double play, play for time while they try toin th confidence of the west a ey can play games. is that what there's fear around the table ty are doing now? no, that's not the fr around the table, ihink a number of nations wanted toake sure we had the tgh language necessary, the clarity in the language necessary, to absotely certain that we were doing the j and not granting more or doing something sloppily that could wind upith a mistake. this is seris business. and i thinevery country came there.

this ithe first time that e p-5 had come togetr with this kindf a serious set of possible options ifront of it, with a new iranian govnment. remember that this has changed since the election. this is a new ovture, and it has to be put to the test very, very carefully. so i thinkhere was unity there, david, with respect to getting it right. and we alws said, president obama has beenrystal clear. don't rush, we'rnot in a rush, we need get the right deal, no deal isetter than a bad deal. and 're certainly adhering to that concept. >> let me pl you a comment that i think gets to the ultimate question of what does it mean to get it right? what is the bottom line demand of the united states? the israelprime minister benjamin netanya has been out spokenbout this this week. heas on this program le last month, and this is what he said about the prospe of a deal with iran. i want you to listen and i'll

get your reaction onhe other side. >> i thi the pressure has to be maintained on iran, even increaseon iran until it actually sto the nuclear program, that is, dismantles it. i think any partial deal could end up dissolvinthe sanctions. a lot of countries are just waiting for a signal to get rid of their sanctionsegime. >> so a couple of points there. you want them stop their weapons program. others, likehe israeli prime minister saying, no, they've got to dismantle their infrastructure before ey get the kind of onomic relief that is part of this deal. >> well, i'm not sure that the primminister, who i have great respect for, kno exactly what the amount or the terms are going to be, because we haven't arrived at them all yet. that's what we're negotiating. and it is not a partl deal. let me makthat crystal clear as i have the prime minister directly.

it is a first ep in an effort that will lock the program in where its today, in fact, set itack while one negotiates the full deal. and there will not be a relaxation of the pressure. you know, nobody hasalked about getting rid of the current architecre of sanctions. the pressure will remain there will be, hopeful, if this is arrived at, a meanof absolutely guaranteeing th while the netiation on the real end game takes place, iran'srogram is not going coinue, is not going to grow. iteems to me that israel is far safer if you make certain that iran cannot continue the program. now, every dayhat we don't have it, they're continuing it. so i think the amerin people, and most people in the world

want the president othe united states with the awesome powe that we have to exhaust all the diplomic remedies before w resort to the use of military force if we have to. that option isot off the table. nothing is off the tle, david. >> but here's the question. if the only reason they're comi to the table now is becae they feel the economic pa of sanctions, it's not just the israelis, it's the saus, it's repubcans in congress who have said -- if that the only reason they're cominto the ble, what's the rush why not incrse that economic pressure so you get not just a halt but actually get a dismantlement of the chitecture which is e goal the president seeks? >> because the president believes, as i do, that th pressure exists today, which is why they're willing negotiate. i an, look, i was there and i voted for these sanctions. we voted for these sanctions in order to bring arod to the negotiating table. now thathey're there, you have to act in some good faith in an effort to beble to move towas the goal you want achieve.

if, as their act of good faith, they freeze theiprogram and allow us absolutely unprecedented accesso inspection and do other things -- i'm not going to go into the list. but if they do the things we lieve is necessary sthat we can guarantee we know what is ppening and we can move it back while we negotiate thend game, it seems to me you've got to dsomething that indices your good fait now, the predent has made it clear, he will not reduce chan the overall core architecre of the oil sations, banking sanctns. iran will still be under enormo pressure precisely complete the tas i think there is a lot of hype and an awful lot of speculation about what is going on here when all that is happening is an effort tough the sanctions congress put in place to get negotiations when those negotiations hopefully pduce

an actual sult. th's what we want to he happen. >> as americs chief diplomat, are you ing skeptical enough about a man who has been cled a lf in sheep's clothi, who wrote a book in which he talked about how they canontinue work on their nuclear program wle th gain confidence of e west, basically played games wi the west? are you being skeptical enough? >> david, some othe most serious and capable exrt people in our vernment who spena lifetime dealing both with iran as well as with nuclear weapons and nuclear armament and proliferation are engaged in our negotiation. we are not blind, and i don't think we're stupid. i think weave a pretty strong sense of how to measure whether or not we are acti in the interests our country and of the globe, and particurly of r allies, like israeand gulf states and others in the region. we are absolely determined that thiwould be a good deal

or tre will be no deal. now, that's why it's hard. that's why we didn't clo the deal here in the last couple of days. because we are together, unified, pushing for things that we believe provide the guarantees thaisrael and the rest of the rld demand here. but one thing is clear, is that, yoknow, we're not goininto a full deal and giving away someing. we're talking about stopping their program where it is with ough guarantees to know that it is, in fact, stopped where it is while we then negotiate the full measure of the deal with our allies, th our friends, with all of thinterested parties,dvising at the table, consulting, and their interests ll represented. >> there is a broader criticism that goes beyondhis that no doubt you'veonfronted in your exnsive travels througut that region. let sum it up this way. amounts to this criticism

that the presidentppears reluctant to ercise power on the world stage. it's not just israel, it's egypt, it's saudi arabia. there is a feeling that thu.s. has abandoned critical friends in that gion, in part because you're moving toward a deal with iran which cld provide them tremendous economic reli when at the se time critics would say their major client, syria, has gotten a pass to murder their own people as lo as they don't use chemical weapons. so that all of this is amounting tohis reluctance to really exercise.s. power. that is my description of that criticism, and please respond to it. >> well, let mrespond very dictly to it, david. i coul't disagree with it more. the president of thenited states made his decision. he deced to use military force syria. also made a decisioto respect threquests of many memberof congress to come to them.

and guess what? when he did, it was the members of cgress, as you know bter an anybody, who boug very significantly with the excepon of the foreign relations committee of the united states senate whichook the lead, but the house clearly indicated a very, very strong reluctance to be engaged. the present, before he had to make a decision of whether or not he would use for, anyway, succded in getting an arrangement with rusa to remove the chemical weons altogether. th would never have happened, that deal would never have ce about if the presint had not made his decision to use force the president used fce in libya. the president has been willing and made it clear that he is preparedo use force with respect to iran's apon, and he has deployed t forces and the weapons necessary tochieve that goal if it has to be achieved. let me just finish the esident has continued in afghanistan. he has sought a secuty agreement in afghastan that is

in the throes being agreed on. it will continue american presence to mplete the task in afghanistan. we can't let mythogy and politics start to cloud realit here. this president has made clear. he's alsthe president who has prosuted al qaeda with an intensity and teorists gerally with an intensy unprecented and way beyond the st administration. >> mr. secretary, final question before you go. you gave some comments in light of the 50th anniversarof the assassation of president kennedy to nbc newthat have now been widely broadcast and reported on. and in those comments, y said this. to this day, i have serious doubts that lee rvey oswald acted alone. that ctainly would be surprising ta lot of people that those were your views. would you care to elaborate? >> no. i just have a point of view.

and i'm not gog to get into that. it's not something that i think needs to be coented on and certainly not at this time >> do you think the conspiracy theory is his involvemt with russia a motivatn from the soviet union or cuba are valid atome level? >> david, m not going to go into it. it's inappropriate and i'm not gog to do more than say it's a point of view th i have, but it's not ripe or worthy or apopriate for me to coent furtr. >> all rig, mr. secretary. we tha you for your time very much. >> thanks. joining me now, the rankg member of the senate feign relations committee, bob corke of tennessee. senator, it's good to have you here because the subject is iran, anthe president of ir -- >> there's no volume. >> -- saying this morning -- we mighhave some audio difficulties. senator, can you hear me okay? senator, are you able to hea me? we'll work on that ai set up the premise here, which ishe questionf what the senate is ultimately going to do on

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>> we figured out our thnical problems. joining me now is the ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee, sator bob rker of tennessee. good morning >> good morning. iran refuses to stop enriching uranium, a critical step to making nuclear weapons. is this a negotiatioor is this actually a dead end? >> we'll see. the security council resolutions call for a complete oppage, so we'll se

i think the concerns that we have david, many of us, is, look, on these partial kinds of arrangements, exactly the kind that we have in north korea, you begin this dance we're seei right now, so unless you do the whole deal on the fro end, you, in essence, begin this series of steps that may well lead to iran getting to exactl the place they wish get to while we relieve sanions. so there are a l of concerns. some of the same people that were involved in the negotiations with noh korea are involved ithese, and so you can imagine that cgress that put these sanctions in ple with the administrion kicking and screaming l the way, pushing back against these sanctions, are very concerned that we'reoing to deal away the leverage that we he where we finally have iranilling to sit down and talk about these issues. >> so, senator, in the interim, there is goi to be another meeting. these negotiations will ntinue on areeze, just a temporary ep before you get to real

negotiation. what are you and your colleagues going to do? do you think it's important to actuly impose more sanctions, to impose more ecomic pain on iran before thinking about relieving those sancons? >> wel you know, there is going to ba banking markup this week where nctions are going to be looked at. that meeting has been called off by the democratic leadership and nator kerry is goingo be coming up this weeand briefing but do want to say, david, when you use semtics like freezi, iran is still gointo be enriching uranium basedn what we see. so when they say freeze, that means they're not going to be gaining but th're still going to be enriching, so therare a lot of concerns. are they going to continue building the fility in iraq whh produces plutonium? what are we going to do with the enried uranium on the ground there? so there are a lot of detailto look asternly before we decide we're moving ahe.

i do know onoth sides of the capital, on both sides of the aisle right now, peoe are really looking at at the next steps ought to be. all of us want to see diplomacy, we do. we thank the sretary for the efforthe's putting forth. that is the best wayo resolve this issue but we'ralso concerned about an administration that seems really ready always to juminto the arms ofolks and potentially de away some of the leverage we have. soe'll be watching thi we want to see a gd outcome. >> do you predict more sanctions before there is any ki of deal th iran? >> i don't know. you know, new sanctions, david, would not ck in for several months, ani think you've already seen that the administraon has dialed back the rheostat sce rouhani's electi on the existing sanctions have. they he a lot of ways to dl down these sanctions in dierent ways. i think this wk sitting down and talking wi secretary kerry will be an important element of

what we . i do think,again, there are concerns, especially agai vid, a parti agreement leads us down the same path that we went down with north koa. where just to get people tact right as you move through ese thin, you continue to reduce sanctions. so, again, a l of concerns about the approach. a lot of us want to see it resolved diplomatically. we kw the sanctions got here and we're wried we're dealing away our lerage. >>enator corker, we wi be watching. thank you very much. >> tnk you. joining me nowepublican governor of new jersey, chris christie. governor, welcome back to "meet the press." congratulations on your reection. >> thank y, david, very much. happy toe back. >> a lot of speculation and a lot of excitent throughout the country with your reection in terms of whait means. here the cover of time magazine. the elephant in the room is what's on the cor. even, "fr more years or two more years?"

as it's crossed out, and saying you're getting ready to run for the white use. unless you want to announce on the show this morni, and i suspect you don't. let me ask you ts question. how do youhink, even as goveor of new jersey, that you can affect, that you can impact the republan party with this reelection? >> i think theest way to impact my rty is just to do my job in the same way that i'v impacted my state. and i think, david, what you saw from the election resulton tuesy is pretty simple. people want the folks theylect to get the job done, to doheir job, get it done for the people who elect you. and that's why, you know, when you look at whatappened on tuesday, it's abouwhat's haened over the last four years. 143,00new private sector js, cutting business taxes, controlling propty taxes, refoing teacher tenure for the first time in 100 ars and reforming a peion and benefits system tsave $120 billion for the next 30 ars for taxpayers. it that kind of record that people were supporting on

tuesday night, and i'm thrilled to get tir support, and i'm ready to get back toork. >> but wheth you like it or not, you've been thrt into a position where the face ofhe establishment wing of the party, ted cr is the face of the consvative wing of the party. who wins this arment? mitt romney id you could save the republican party. es it need saving anare you the guy to save it? >> iwas very nice of governor romney. i tched him on your program last week and i appreciate his kind words i s a proud, proud suprter of governor roey and i consider mitt and ann very good friends. i'm notocused on that, david. i'm focusedn doing my job in the state of nurchds. new jersey. that's what i rafor, that's what i want to do. i think wh the election showed is if you want tattract a majority of the hianic vote, if you want to nearly triple your afran-american voters as a reblican, what you need to do is show up. you need tshow up in those places. david, i did a town hall in the city of irvington in my state

about a year and a half ago. got 4.7% of the vote in irvington in 2009. i went tre, and there were more people in the chuh where i did the town hall than voted for me in 2009. you go and you show up and you listen. and you start to make your argume about your policies and i think the results of the electis show that that's the ki of engagement we need as republicans all ross the country. to listen and to show up in places where we haven't got a eat amount of vote before. >> some of the skeics would say you n up a huge margin o victory, so, thefore, your margin among latinos and african-amerans will be higher. anthen head to head, if it cos to this, against hillary clintoin new jersey shows u would trail hillary clinton even in your own ste. do you viethat and say she's formidable, that you would be an undeog if it were to come to that? >> do you know h i view that, davi i got 61% ofhe vote in the state of new jersey in a blue

state that h just reelected barack obama a year ago by 17 points. that was nearly a 40oint turnaround betwe voting for a democrat at the top of the ticket and voting for a republican. gettg 51% of the hispanic vote, i'm very pud of that because i've word hard with thhispanic community to let them see how our policies can help their families. i've worked ha with the african-american community. i've worked hard wh seniors and students and all those peopleame out and voted in large nuers for us on tuesday. so people can say atever they want, but the nuers speak for themselves. i'proud of it and it's going to give a mandate to go bac to the work for the people of new jersey and finish the b. >> here's the queson. are you a moderater a conservative? here's h the blog in "first read" described that cricism. they write ts. ifhristie does run for president, this is exactly the line of attack his republican rivals will pursue. this guy is not one us. 's from new jersey. his state has galized gay marriage. he's expanded dicaid and he's

expressed some gun control and pro-immiation reform views. >> wt's the question? >>re you a moderate or a conservative? >> david, listen. i dot get into these labs. that's the washingto d.c. game, and what all those men and women down tre play. look at my record. we're spending less todain 2014iscal year than we d in 2008 in real dlars. we've cut businessaxes by $2.3 billion. 143,000 new prate sector jobs. reformed teacher tenure to put accountability ithe classroom for the first time in 100 ars and reformed a pensi and befits system and retirement pension in new jersey to save $120 billion f the taxpayers over the next 30 years. judge by my record. that i'm very, very comfortable with. all the labels? that's for the folks in washington, d.c., and obvisly they love pling that game, but the people oamerica aren't interested in that game. i think given the proval ratings inashington, they've shn that. >> yet the wall street journal

out your economic record concluded this in an editial on wnesday. it's the biggest disappointment, the ate jobless rate is ill 8.5%, among the 10 highest in the country. it's true he inherit a mess, but mr. christie will need a new reform agenda in 2014 to impre national gop voters in 2016. >> we're going to continue to do the b we've done already, david. we brought unemployment wn by ha, we created 143,000rivate sector jobs a state i do admiwas an absolute mess the hiest taxed state in america when got there and we've improved the situation. i never said the job was de. if the job was de, i wouldn't run for a seconderm. why ther? i would justide off into the sunset. we have a lot of wk still to do and we're going to continue to do it. that's why i asked for a second term and four more years, to contue to control spending, lower taxes, andontinue to imove economic opportunity in our state. that's exactly what i'm going to do.

>> on obama care, the esident apologized abouthe promise that wasn't kept wh the individual market. do you think obama care is doomed? do you think the republica parthas an obligation to make it work at thipoint? >> lten, i think obama care was a mistake. ve said that right from the beginning. i think it's failed policy. that why we did not institute state-bad exchanges, and you n see exactly why when you see the disaster thas happening right now. the factf the matter is, the president didn't tell folks the truth about what was going t happ with their own private insurae policies. and what i urged him to for the lastwo weeks when i've been on the campaign trail is tell people the uth. that's the thing ty expect, and i think that's why we've gotten the support we've gotten in new jersey. whether it's good ws or bad news, i tell folksn new jersey the rd truth they need to hear. even when theyisagree with me, david, they've come around t support me becausehey say at least this guy ilooking us in the eye and lling us the

truth. i think the prident failed that test, unfornately, on obama care because that's unfortunate for e country. but i never have favored obama care. it's a failed policy. we all know that, and the fact is the president needs to own up to it d tell folks the truth. >> all right, goveor chris christie. a lot more to come from you, i'm sure, as we moveorward. we'll be watching you closely there in new jersey and beyond. thank u for your time this morning. i apprecia it. >> david, thanks for havg me on. i apprecte it. and coming uhere, president obama's apology over his oba care promise. is it enough? our rodtable joins me. joe scarborough, doris kearn goodwin, mark halperin and coresswoman donna edwas. plus harry smithith a "meet the press" videossay as we approach the anniversary o a special momt in american history. we're back after ahort break. whene made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:

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our politicalroundtable. here this mning, mark halperin, doris kearns goodwin, doa edwards and joe scarborough. now, david gregory. >> good morning. a lot to get to. chri christie and the future of the litical party. joe, your book is coming out at an ideal time because the republican party i looking to the future. do theyee chris christie in theenter of it? >> i don't know if they do or not, buthis week th've been saying are we chris christie republicans o cuccinelli republicans? we have to have bh sides togetr. the day after the election, we were saying, who has the best foot foard? we have to have the ted cruz wing of e party andhe edwards part of the party. there is a reason they won, and there is aeason they n

agnst michael do you caulk ukak that's because ted cruz was der the big tent. you're eithe fiscally conservative or you're member of the tea party and you're too idealogically driven. this isot a kum ba ya talk, this is about winning. ths is about how nick sabin wins football. >> this i really the thesis of your booknd we'll focus onhe book in a little bit. let's boaden this out. mark halrin, this is the fight in thewo wings of the republican part >> it's a huge fight and the parties have to sort it out. it has to be done by leaders. it can't be done by cle tv or twitter. chris christie is someone who is magical in the way politicians

n be magical. people like having him on tv, he's a good talker. he won. j said winning is what really matters. heoves to win. he's going take over the publican association and see if he n win there. and he wantto be a leader to change the party. you can't say that about evybody else peopleare talking about f '16. the man i just lved with, theodore roosevelt, was in a simar position. maybe aifferent ki of idealogy than his party athe time. through the force of his personality, he dragged the republicanarty to deal with the issues that werereated by the industrial age. similarn a ceain way t some of the traits that chris cistie has. he was a fighter, he was lunt, he had energy, he d a sense of knowinghow to address complex isss and make them very imple, speak soly and carry a big stick, you know, special terests. uare deal. thas kind of the wayougot to do it but you have to sayto your own party -- he would say to the lerepubcan party, if you

don't come with me on these issues, the republican party is going tbe dead. >> meanwhile, congresswoman, a mucas you mit like thes fissures in the republican party, democrats are dealing with health cre and headlines that struck me overhe weekend, "a white house in crisis mode but some allied prod for me action." in the column this morning he writes the following, a president famous for his unflappabilit he is now struggng to square assuranc that he is top of the problems. >> first of a, i want to throw cold water on top of the cis christie thi. won with 80% of the te, so 'm not really sure how much it says about what need to happen nationally. then with health care, you know, the presint has admted we got to get it right. t to get that website ing, t to get people signedp and deliver heah care, but you know what? republicans in congss and

republican governors have to stop standing in e way,nd that's wha they've been doing. >> in whatway? it's -- >> not implementing medicaid, medical expansion. >> i kn the gornment said it wasn't kathleen belius' job to make the website run right because they're not i.t. experts. you n't blame them for this botch launch. this botched lach is a self-inflicted wound by the president. it shows just how disconnected hes been, and he's undercut h best argumes for having a progressive, engaged federal government. and i think we're going to see not only is he going to ntinue to have i.t. problems on the website,e's al going to continue to have problems as we roll this out and we find out the are winners and losers obaa care. thas not a shock to us, but the president has beenromising for four years we were going to

get 31 million people on the new rolls and eveone is going to be happy. >> we're not even 30 days into e implementation t. i know republicans want to deepix this thing b it's no going to happen. the president wl get this right. >> the article that talks aout sticker shock, i don't think the republicans are running the editorial pagef the l.a. times. you're also taing about the fact that the president made promises that ended up jst not being true. thatas not ted cruz's fault. >> at's sad to me is that for two weeks on one hand e democrats are saying, hooray, the republicans screwed up the govnment utdown, right, it's good r us. now t republicans are saying, hoor, the president scred up the rollout of obama care. the problem i people were hurt in th instances. people were hurt by the govement stdown, they're hu by therollout. wh's happeni to our country when we're cheering for the otherside? >> e problem is the president

did not tell the truth. >> here's what he told chuck todd about that broken promise, his first real apology for it. >> i am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me. we've goto work hard to make sure that they knowe hear them and that we're going to do everything wcan to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consuence of this. >> mark halperin, is that enough? >> i try not tbe hyperbol and try not to judge things after 30 das. i think the psident's term is in the balance here, not just fixing the website andgiving people uerstanding of what this program is supposed to do. lowercost, expand coverage, makeur health care system more rationalhan it was. i think the credibility of his entire presidencys on the line an the ability toork with republicans. it seems to me the president will be dealingwith the republican house for the balance of his ter and i he cannot lower the

temperature on healthcare, if hecannot find a way to work toether with the other party in placeon health car i think this term is going to be very tough. >> he's a question that i hav we're focused on the politics of it, the liabity. wenow there will be a big issue in 2014. people i talk to, my viewers out there, i think, are also asking this. whahappens if they don't meet e goals? what happens iftheebsite does not get operational at some point? what happens to the ultimate goal of helng people that are supposed tbe helped? is that question being answered? >> i think that's a legitima question, and i think what you heard from the pesident is him ying, number one, it was my fau and people reled on it. but number two, we have obligation to get this rght not just because of the politics but precisely beuse otherwise pple fall through the cracks and they don't hve health care. and i think he has exprsed that as a legitimate concern. i think he said to us ando the american peoplehat he wants to get this right, a u know what? in my state i knowhat we have to for 450,000 people who don't have health care.

>> the positi news coming out of this the fct that we are going to have to get th right. the president goingo have to go to congress and he's going to have to work with reblicans and democrats alike. th fact is, and davdnations was on our show two weeks ago and he put it well. this is an overreach, he said, the president overreached not just political but he overreached on substance as wel heried to do too much with just democrats. we didn't evenget -- >> don't you think republicans have an obligation to work with th president? >> y, they certainly do. >> and they haven't been doing that. >> i try not to be partisan, i really try not to, and ask republican they will tell you, a long list of republicans on capito hil will tell you i you can -- i succeed in not bng partisan. the esident made a decision in 2009 he was going to ram this down the republicans' throat. he was going to do it where he didn't get a sgleepublican

vote. he couldn't even g conservative democrats -- if you're taing about social security, ask dorisill tell you this, if you're talking abt medicare, if you're talking about any seping new plan that's going to transform things, you need both parties invold. >> with remaining me, i want to get to sothing else that's come upthis morning and you heard it from the seetary of state. this is news, this is develing, but a little bit of history here as we approach the 50th anniversary the assassinion of president kennedy. you heard secretary kerry say he does not think lee harvey oswald acted alone. this was the headle in the "new york mes" after the warren report was issued,and the real focus here was that he ted alone. that was the conclusio was an interview initially that secretary kerry gave with my colleague tom brokawor a documentary aut the asssination. we'll play a porton of tha >> this day i have serious doubts that lee harvey oswald actedalone.

i certainly have dots that he was motivated by himself. i'm not sure if anybody else was involved. i don'to down that road wi respt to the grassy knol theory and all that. but i have srious questions about whether they got to the bottoof leearvey wald's time and influence from cuba and russia. >>oris? striking? >> it is unning, actually. the interesting thing isi think it's hard for some people to think acted alone because you wa to believe there was some more meaning to the ct. en something isandom like that, i thinkthat's why so many people search for someing that must have been bigger. i remember my husba was talking to bobby kennedyin 66, and he hdly ever said anything, my husband being richard goodwin, but all of a sudden he blurted out like senator kerry, ifhe didn't act alo, it was probably the mafia. >> bobby said that. >> bobby kennedy, yeh. at's where the copiracy

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idealogical indulnces, w exploit resent mts that pl well enough amg thease but whose positions ke them nonviablein general elections. you heard chris chritie say this morning, it has to be a strategy that's about winning. >> it has to about winning. >> more than the aument. >> more than the argument and it cat just be about idealogical indulgces. we c go throughso many senate ras in the past two elections and we time andime again have elected pple that were amateurs, that weren't read for prime tie, that everybody knew were going to lose the geral elections. it can't b about petty resentments anymore, we have to think bigger, we have to co up wh a bigger agenda like reagan d, like i did, like weid in '94 when we gotlected and took ck the majority for t first timen the generation. but there also has to be an derstanding that ericans are conservative with a small c. they wa someone who is idealogically conservativebut

also moderate temperamentally. ike wa that way, reagan was that way. there was a reason we used to win 48 state landslides. >> is the argument justabout compromise, is just about deration or isit about seei the political reality that americansat somelevel want gornment to play a lar enough role toolve big problems? >> right, and it's notbout compromise. it'sot even about idealogical moderation. it is, thoug abou polical moderatn. understandingthat you've got to be relevant to the centerf america. replicans -- people forget this. we used to behe party to beat. evry four yes, democrs would pull thr hair out because they knew we were goi to figure out how to reach the middle of ameri. now, duringhe cold war, we did that because pople thought w were t stronst party to do that. durg george w. bush's reeltion in 2004 when democrats we sure they had him

defeated. americans trust george bush more. they though he was at the middle of america more. weost that. we lost tat in 2008, w lost it 2012, and i say this to my very conservative friends. we've got to figur out a way to move forwa together orlse we're going thave hillary clinton for two terms, and you're going to have barack oba and hillary clinton pickingupreme court justice for six years and aping the way that our federal government is run. that will transform government for 50 years. we've got to unite >> the nminating wingf the party, which isthe tea party phase right nowit is ted cruz right now, he getsuge -- >> that's not the nominating wingf the party. those are people that --those sort of candidates we had in 2012, you see it all the time. they come out early on. the medi loves to talk about them for a year and a alf. they go out and doretty well in iowa, they do pretty we in new hampshie, a thnd en when the

snowtarts to fade away in iowa, the candidates srt to fade away. ey turn south and goack to the midwest and ey never win. we've been battered for the last year and a half. forget their idealog th're poitical amateurs. i have someood friends that were at the cter of this shutdown strategy. i disagreed wh it not because of idlogy, just because was dumb tactics. as i said to a god friend from texas, i said, that's like running upthe middle in th and 31 because you think it mas youook like more of a man. no, you're going to lose punt the ball. >> the bo is "t right path" by joe scarborough. thank you s much for speakering with us. coming up here, asacred moment in history. harry smith with the meaning of moment in history. harry smith wirusters at 30%!of i cat get her to warp. losing thrusters. i need more power. give me more power! [ mainframe ] lated. ge deep-sea fuel technology.

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as we approach the150th anversary of theettysburg addres >> we'r at the evergreen cemetaryn gettysburg, ennsylvania. president lincoln delivered the gettysburg addre somewhere aroun here, probably right over there. of lincoln and the speech, the daily cleveland herald said he should not have sai less. we do not believe any other man in the same number of words could have said more. getsburg. a brutal three-day battle of incomprehensible carnage. until ttysburg, robert. lee hought his army was invincible. when president lincoln spoke here five months later, the war's ouome was anything but certain. "four sce and seven yearsago, our fathers brought forth on is continent a new nation conceid in liberty a dedited to the pposition that all men arereated equal."

the gettysburg address is not so much a spee but a prayer, a refirmation of faith. n we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicaed can long endure. lincoln was speaking to all americans, but his remark had even grear meaning for african-americans. scott hancocks anistorian at gettysburg college. >> i thk for africanmericans, the gettysburg addressbecomes more impornt over time. african-americans then and since, they understood equality and freedom to be linke and to not just be legal freeom but that it meant the whole ball of wax. >>he emancipation probable caus -- proclamation hadjust been signed that january. linco had doubled down the war for independence.

the war had come down on his soul. lincoln said, the world will ttle note nor long rememer what we say here, but it can never fget what they did he. president lincoln promised the is sanctity of the pele who died. we have dedicatedhat field as the final resting place fo those who gave their looives th the nation might live. and lincoln decres quite plainly that the dead left the living way greith a great responsibili responbility. that from the dead we give increased motivation for those that gaves thatmotivation. that we resolvehat the dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation und god shouldave a new birth under frdom. >>incoln giving rhetoric but he's living the reali of it as our americans then, what the cost is of not having freedom equality. we can use things like the

gettburg address andhe civil war, what happens here in th battle, to uerstand whas involved, what we may be called to do a some point and ask the question, are we willing to do that? what are we willing to do to achieve freedom and eality? >> new burst of freedom. rink ons invoking a kind of rurrection. he is praying th the war that broke the country i o, a war that will leave more than a half million amerins dead is not the end of us but a new beginning, that ts nation under god shall hav a new birth of freedom and that the government of e people, by the peopl for the people sha no perish from the rth. it is a prare still pray. for "mt the press," i'm harry ith. >> and, doris, you are still struck about how meaningful t speech was at theime when you really sitack and think about it. >> oh, there's two thin about

it. one is that he gave a story of our country and a meaning to that war that wa understood by the people at the time. but me importantly, even,e set maxim for what a free society should be think of it, at that time ther was sll slaves in the south, blacks in the north couldn't be on jues, couldn't interrry, women couldn't vote. he's saying when you have a governmenfor the people by the people, this is your standard. you're never going to ach it but you have to ke journeying and wre still on that journ today. >> the books are in stores n. thank you all for being here. that's all for today. we'll be backnext week. in it's sunday, is "meet the press."

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