mixim - from the ehrmann family. it's love, your way. . up dead? >> a young father's death. so sudden. so strange. >> we wanted answers. >> the word poison just kept co >> it was poisoning. >> you can't smell it, you can't see it. >> someone wanted him dead. someone was hiding something.

>> sex is the allegation and poisoning. >> he had bank accounts. >> are you accusing me of doing something to him? >> determined to find a killer. >> how dare anybody do that to my little brother. >> it wasn't supposed to happen like this. >> a toxic mystery. an emotional trial. >> the jury being out long a bad thing or a good thing? 3 f2 una prueba de amor. from that time around the end of the hockey season, it didn't make sense what was happening to matt. the hockey amateur, the outdoors munt, the hunter, fisherman, athlete. it didn't make sense from the first day he woke up in the

morning with the pain in his back. after what happened in the hospital a couple months later, nothing made sense after that. so good knows there were accusations. oh, yes, plenty of those. and a brother, mark, for whom the story, the mystery became a kind of obsession. >> it was the best seven years. >> the story is of those that, well, you be the judge. >> since the spring of 2006, matt was 31 years old he was loving the intense male roughness of amateur hockey. he was number 10 and he was good at it. he managed to keep all his teeth. >> he started to take it up when he was in high school. that was one of the blows.

>> mark was just a little older, a little more academically accomplished than his kid brother, but mark loved him for what he was. >> he was a good kid. he didn't get in any trouble. my dad was a cop. he sort of put the fear of god into me and my brother. >> matt told his mom patricia he would join the police force after a stint in the navy. brooklyn, ohio is one of the towns around the edge of cleveland. >> he always wanted to be a police officer ever since he was little. >> his dead was a 39-year veteran of the brooklyn pd. >> there was a point in time where it looked like we may even work together. >> life is full of disappointments. matt didn't get the call. instead he went to work for his uncle whose powder coated engine parts was another company. >> what did he think of the job? >> the thing that excited him

about it is he was going to take over. my uncle was grooming him to be the boss. >> what he wanted most of all was a family. so when he met polly -- >> matthew fell in love. 110%. he really loved her. >> some people plan out their lives carefully. those people may have issues with matt and holly. his daughter samantha was born give or take nine months after they met. the marriage part would come later. >> he loved being a dad. he loved the little girl. >> and loved holly. holly loved him. holly told her sister the story of how they eventually got engaged. it was during a romantic weekend in niagara falls before samantha was born. holly was in the bubble bath. >> she couldn't hear because the faucet was running.

he was down on his knee and she realized oh, my gosh, you are proposing. >> that is romantic. >> i thought so. the bubbles. i thought that was romantic. >> after samantha, they went to vegas to witness a friend's wedding. >> did you almost make it a foursome wedding. >> actually yes, they said we should do a double wedding. but holly knew that her family would not be happy with that. i think that's what made them not get married. >> didn't get married. but something happened in vegas. nine months after that, josh was born. >> from what holly had told me, josh was planned in vegas. >> ready or not, matt was the father of samantha and a baby boy he nicknamed little man and

holly's daughter from a previous relationship. big changes in a very short time. by the end of the hockey season, a lot of things started going wrong. josh was still very new then and colicky and was stressed. with the young family he lot of money gambling on the internet. he complained of feeling depressed. so depressed his doctor prescribed anti-depressant. that's about when the pain started. spasms and back pain and he ignored it. it just got worse. after weeks of this, holly insisted he see a doctor. >> he had been complaining of pain and she finally said you need to go. obviously something is not right. so she basically had to drag him there. >> kidney stones was the diagnosis. the doctor gave matt pills to help dissolve them. four days later he took a turn for the worse.

way worse. holly called her father, matt's father and 911. >> i got a call that said something was wrong with matt. he said i don't feel good and i fell off the couch and i am dizzy. i said get in the ambulance. >> holly's father arrive and followed the ambulance with holly. things went bad fast. >> it was nerve racking. all we kept hearing is they are trying to dial in on this kidney issue. that medication is making his heart go. they tried to address the heart and it kept see sawing back and forth. >> nobody seemed to know what was causing it? >> no. >> matt faded in and out of consciousness. doctors told holly go home and get some rest. then a few hours later they called everybody back to the hospital right away. one look at the icu and big brother mark kept his world come apart.

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. >> on monday morning, july 31st, 2006, there in the icu though serious ailments attacked mattpodalak. >> they said he was going into

full arrest and we revived him already once. when i got there, it was downhill. >> his fiance holly said to the doctor, keep trying. >> holly said don't stop. don't stop. matt, don't leave me. >> it was no use. >> once the doctor or nurse stepped away, holly just lunged on matt and wouldn't let go. they actually had to pull her off of his body. >> he was just 31 years old. now his children were fatherless. holly a single mother of three. at the funeral, she did not take it well. >> holly was sitting in the car for about 20 minutes bawling her eyes out. i don't know how i would do that to see him lying there in the casket.

>> matt and holly's son josh was just six months old and he cried a lot. holly repeatedly had to leave the reception line to care for her colicky baby. >> she was in the basement with josh because she was nursing. she had to still take care of her kids and show them that she had to be strong. >> holly's friend did what she could to help, especially with the little boy. so young. >> the poor baby, he would have never known his father. how could this happen? all of a sudden a very healthy 31-year-old young man just winds up dead? it's kind of strange. >> kind of strange? it certainly was. matt's brother mark couldn't stop thinking about how strange it was. >> he had kidney stones. how can you go into the hospital for kidney stones and die eight hours later. >> exactly what the coroner was wondering when he was looking at

his organs as if she was exposed to toxic chemicals in his environment. he supervised an assembly line involving in painting and powder co coating. they called holly to ask. >> the coroner said it was similar to what the chemical compound that they found in him. >> holly called matt's uncle who owned the fact we. >> they said my brother needed to call the coroner to explain what matthew was exposed to. >> soon after the coroner talked to him, after he got a proper list of the chemicals he used, he pretty much ruled out any industrial cause. >> all the chemicals were and osha approve and they had masks to wear.

>> if not that, what? what happens a cause of in death that occurs in so young. the pain of his kidney stones, maybe he decided to end it all. it was the coroner's investigation who brought up the subject to matt's mother. >> she was questioning me would matthew have committed suicide. never, said his mother. never. it was a not unreasonable question given matt's depression and all. even though mark believed his brother had that under control. >> he went to the doctor to get help with that and the doctor gave him anti-depressants. >> did that help? >> i thought it did. he seemed to be better. >> then matt had a new family. you know how it is. he was spending most of his time with holly and the kids and her parents. maybe mark didn't know. >> did he go to his own parents's house very often?

>> i don't recall him talking about it that much. >> the connection didn't seem that close? >> it didn't seem to be. >> mark didn't know enough then anyway. matt actually asked a friend to remove his hunting gun as if he was afraid he might harm himself. >> was he thinking about killing himself? >> i heard he was having thoughts. he told holly i think he told my dad. >> just as she insisted he see the doctor for kidney stones, it was holly's sister who insisted he get help for the depression. >> he sent him to the doctor and got him on medication for that as well. >> what happened to matt? who knew? the coroner had not issued an official report.

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there were just the two of them. big brother mark and the kid he looked out for. his little brother, matt. now matt was dead and nothing made sense to mark podolak. >> there was no way that a guy is going to go into the hospital with kidney stones and you are going to die because of kidney stones. >> three months after his death, matt's family had a feeting. his father arranged it. they had been discussing a possible wrongful death suit against the hospital. >> my mom called me over and she said we are going to talk with a lawyer and find out the next steps, what's going to happen. >> his further wasn't exactly straight with her son. that was not what was going to happen. >> when i got to her house, the family was there. i was like where is the lawyer. she was like he's not here. >> no lawyer. something far more disturbing.

the autopsy report. matt's mother did not want her son hearing about this over the phone. afraid of how he would react. >> the family was there and they said we have the coroner's report back and it was wasn't freeze poisoning. i lot of it. >> the correct phrase for this was chronic intoxication by ethlean glycol. that was the toxic ingredient in antifreeze. that's antifreeze. it happened over a period of time. once that set in, i was shocked. i was speechless. >> that's when something profound happened to mark podolak. maybe right that moment a decision snapped into place. >> when we found out with my admission to find an answer for this. >> a mission complicated by the

fact that there was one big question the coroner could not answer. was matt's death the result of a terrible mistake or suicide or was it murder? nobody knew. so the coroner labeled the death undetermined. across town, matt's fiance holly was getting the news. holly's sister, kristi. >> what are can you say, what do you mean there is antifreeze in his system. we were thinking it was kidney failure. we were not expecting that. >> was it really possible that matt ingested small amounts of antifreeze for weeks if not longer? that was the implication of the phrase chronic poisoning. mark had made up his mind that he did not commit suicide and certainly not gradual suicide. what did he have to go on? so far only a growing suspicion and rage which he made perfectly clear to the police. >> i finally got ahold of the

detective on the case and he did some additional stuff, but it wasn't the follow-through that i hoped. maybe that was just because i was just grieving and i was so upset. >> when something like that happens, you want the world to stand up and pay attention it and do something. >> i want every member of the police department to be on it. >> seemed like nobody was. >> it didn't seem that way. no. time started to go on. i became extremely frustrated. >> matt's father, a former cop himself can see the problem. the case file was stuck. >> it became a catch 22 situation. >> the coroner said he couldn't label it a homicide without more evidence from the police. at the same time -- >> cleveland homicide was saying they can't investigate it as a homicide until the coroner rules it a homicide. >> so it remained. month after month, year into year.

still the manner of death was listed as undetermined. just like mark, matt's father len made something of a pest of himself. >> i would call the detective assigned to the case and say what have you got? his standard answer to me is i don't have anything. what have you got? i said well, this is your job, not my job. >> not unlike his fiance holly was thinking. >> he was upset that there was nobody. none of our family had been abused. >> like they were letting it go. >> holly had three children to raise alone. the coroner's politics was not upper most in her mind. she took on two and sometimes three jobs at the same time. and threw herself into coaching her children's little league baseball team. meanwhile, mark kept hounding

investigators and getting nowhere. >> for made me feel like my brother's case was on the desk of someone who could care less and was counting down the days to his retirement. >> though mark was getting nowhere, holly was hearing things not from the police. remember the plant where matt supervised other workers? what was really going on around the powder coating machine? holy and her sister had theories about how matt died. >> there were people at his job that may have not liked him. he was supposed to get a promotion and i think there were people that didn't think he deserved it. >> were they right? [ male announcer ] some companies use

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. holly mcfeeture was up against it big time. three kids, two still in diapers. she lost the father of her children. police couldn't figure out what happened and didn't seem to be trying. the little bit of cash left over in matt's checking account was soon gone. his life insurance paid out $10,000, but it wouldn't be very much. she did what she had to do. she took on several jobs at a time and even baby-sat for neighbors when she had a spare hour or two. >> the children needed food and needed a roof over their heads and that's what she was doing. she was paying their bills. making sure that the kids were taken care of.

>> the thing is, holly mcfeeture loved kids. not just her own. matt was playing hockey, she was coaching little league. she threw herself into it after matt's death. baseball is how rebecca met holly. >> our kids were in little league together at that time. >> that was the spring of 2006 before matt died. the oldest girls were school classmates and sports teammates. and holly? >> she was friendly in a way that was intoxicating, i guess. it was like an intoxicating friendliness. >> you wanted to be around it? >> you did. you wanted to be around her. >> that's how rebecca met matt cully. then one day he tagged along. he was already sick by that time and nobody knew how sick. she was sitting under this tree

all alone said rebecca, watching the game. >> you can tell he didn't feel well. she was in pain. he shifted in the chair quite often. >> four days later, matt was dead. after the funeral rebecca tried to comfort holy and help with the kids. >> i asked her if she needed help with the children and if the children needed something. just to help her. >> when the coroner's report came out and shocked everybody, holly told rebecca right away. >> what did you think when you heard he died of antifreeze poisoning? >> it slipped the mystery of how does a 31-year-old pass suddenly when he is poisoned? >> who would want to poison matt? just a regular guy. no known enemies. holly told rebecca the police didn't seem to be doing anything to find out and she had leads of her own. >> she suspected somebody at work.

>> she suspected somebody at work. >> eventually she said the police did too. >> they thought somebody poisoned him at work. the work poison just kept coming up. >> sister kristi heard the rumors too. >> why would they do such a thing? >> there were people at his job that may have not liked him. it was his uncle's company and people i think were a little jealous. he was supposed to get a promotion. i think there were people that -- >> didn't think he deserved it. >> didn't think he deserved it. >> holly and people in the family became convinced that somebody at work found a way to put antifreeze into matt's drink or something. if that phrase in the coroner's report was true, chronic ethanol intoxication, that somebody would have done it several times. one person who wasn't buying

that theory was matt's brother, mark. >> he didn't have enemies. >> he worked his way up to supervisor at the plant and he was well-liked by the people at phoenix industrial. >> he was not going around picking fights. he was loved by coworkers. >> by then, solving the case of his brother's murder was mark's obsession. he collected stories from the streets and from friends. he fumed when the official investigation seemed to go nowhere. after three frustrating years, one small change that made a huge difference. a new supervisor on the cleveland homicide division took over matt's case. his name detective challenger mike quinn. >> by the time you took it over -- >> it was pushing three years. i reviewed the file. >> with fresh eyes, quinn went over the case, reinterviewed

people who knew both matt and holly. suddenly -- >> i kelt a different sense of what was happening. >> now what he called was questioning or suggestions he felt like somebody was listening. especially when he said what he was hearing on the street. >> maybe this was something that could help you. >> you heard about things. >> absolutely. it was a really close-knit town. people talked. there was chatter out there. >> strange how that chatter seemed to focus on one particular person. a possible motive for murder. >> she wrote checks writing his name on the checks. cleaned out the bank account. >> what did that tell you? >> a huge red flag. taking mult, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief,

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holly's family suspected that somebody at work had it out for him. mark and his family were looking closer to home. how close? put it this way. the two sides of the family were not talking anymore. already mistrust ramped up that night in the hospital years before when matt was in the icu when mark goon wonder if holly was in some way wonder if she was responsible for matt's illness. >> i wonder if she could have did this to him, do you? we said i don't know, maybe. at the time we didn't know why he passed. >> then there was a funeral. holly's family said she was very upset and cried in the car before going in. when sergeant quinn read the file, he found a surs statement

from holly's friend rebecca. >> she was back and forth talking to different individuals. almost like a flirtatious intoxicating friendliness she had and her fiance was not even there in front of them. >> talking to everybody or concentrating on men or women? >> mostly men. >> flirtatiously? >> flirtatious, uh-huh. >> that's how she always was. at first friendly and magnetic, but didn't stay that way for long. later matt holly became controlling and demanding. >> did he complain about his relationship? >> of course he did. yeah. he did. >> what did he say? >> she nagging me, type thing. yelling at me and calling me all the time and doing all this stuff. there was incidents that happened sometimes where they had to have police show up. >> matt's protective big brother called it nasty the way she

treated him. >> it's not worth the heartache to keep going through this. he was afraid he would not see his kids. >> now he was dead and his family was raw with suspicious. when they went to collect matt's certainly effects, holly said they no longer had it. the hard drive was being fixed. that sounded fishy to the detectives. >> was this an effort to destroy evidence. >> that's what most people do when they get rid of a computer that may have been connected to the crime. >> not evidence really, but suggestions. like when according to them, holly said after matt died he wanted to be cremated, an idea matt's family said could have been shot down. why would she have said that. when they asked for his clothes, she said she got rid of them.

as if she wanted to erase matt from his life. >> was there anything left of his in her house. >> not too much. >> there was a business about the money. a big deal. >> she went to the atm machine and used his card a day after his death and wrote checks writing his name on the checks. cleaned out the bank account and left one penny in it. >> wow. what did that say to you? >> obviously a huge red flag. >> it was a measure of the suspicion and the broken trust that matt's brother reported holly to the police. holly was arrested and changed with theft and forgery. she was put on probation for a year and in return prosecutors dropped the charges. >> what happened? what was the sentence? >> she was given a first time offender's program. she didn't do jail time. >> then the life insurance. it wasn't much. including his 401(k), it

amounted to $15,000. here's what made his brother suspicious. >> my brother was talking about a couple days before removing her from the insurance policy and as a beneficiary of the policies and the 401(k). that's how serious it was getting. >> when holly got $10,000 of that insurance, it seemed to mark and confirm what he had been thinking since the beginning. she must have killed him. >> in my mind, there was no other way that it could have happened. none. >> the first reaction is shock. what's the second reaction? >> anger. then how dare anybody do that to my little brother. how dare they. >> $10,000 in life insurance and a motive for murdering the father of your children? what did you think. that's a serious allegation. >> i thought it was ridiculous. that somebody would think that. >> holy and her family heard all

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. podolak's death, they were coughing and sputtering and pointing at her. matt's fiance and the mother of his children. holly mcfeeture. >> she was a suspect from day one. >> they were soon frustrated. >> we were missing pieces. missing critical links on the case. >> evidence already collected was maddening. for example, detectives recovered two bottles of antifreeze in the garage holly and matt lived. somebody else had been living in the house for more than a year by the time they found it. whose antifreeze was it? nobody knew. >> still, was there a way that we could link it up? >> nope. tests confirmed that garage antifreeze didn't match the antifreeze that killed matt.

remember holly's friend rebecca? they found her name and called her up and discovered after matt died, she spent every day with holly. here's where detective quinn's eyes opened wide. rebecca said day she was at holly's house and noticed some odd looking chemicals in holly's kitchen. >> she said that it was antifreeze and that it was to winterize. >> did you ask why? >> i thought well, it's in the kitchen and the boat is outside. why would the antifreeze be in the kitchen? >> there was a time when she, rebecca was complaining about her husband and holly said -- >> i can get rid of him. >> i can get rid of him. i kind of joked about it and i

laughed, but she backed out that statement with well, you can work and we can move into your house. >> weird. as she looked back on that. once she heard about the coroner's report, she cutoff all contact with holly, ended the friendship without saying why. >> i thought to myself, i exposed my family to murder. >> she believed that holly poisoned matt. >> was she freaked out? >> she stated she was afraid of holly. >> quinn kept an evil eye on holly mcfeeture and one day he heard about holly in the karaoke bar. >> holly and her sister were singing a song by the dixie chicks called earl's gotta die. a song about an abused woman in a relationship with a man who to

get back at the man and to poison his food. they were out there sing the song and laughing about it. this was after matthew's death. it was cold-blooded when i heard about it. >> the same year quinn received the tips. maybe it was the fact that prosecutors were appointed and maybe it was sergeant quinn's investigation. maybe it was the karaoke. whatever it was, he changed his ruling on matt's manner of death from undetermined to homicide. with that stroke of the pen, everything changed. for the first time holly was invited to the police station to give a statement. >> we are about to talk about the death of matt podolak.

the coroner's office ruled it a homicide. >> chewing gum and looking casual. she came in without a lawyer and read miranda rights. you willing to talk without having a lawyer present? >> yes. that's fine. i didn't do anything. >> what would she say about her relationship with matt. >> did you have any fights physically? >> a couple. >> did you call someone? >> on one time i called the cops. >> she said it happened when she had a male friend over to the house. >> something was going on when that was the case. i had a friend over and we were talking and he didn't like it. >> she told them if they wanted to solve the mystery, they should have talked to matt's factory.

>> did he have anything? >> at work from where he was coming from, there were a lot of people there. he was considered one of the supervisors and told me different stories about how so and so is getting by. >> remember the 10,000 in life insurance as a possible motive for murder? holly said she didn't know there was life insurance until after matt was dead. >> the only thing he had at work was the 401(k) plan. i didn't find out about the life insurance until we were at the funeral home. we found that out then. >> how about that night in the karaoke bar? >> and earl's gotta die and you

were laugh being it with reference with an abusive relationship. >> it's a song. yes. >> over and over, the detective challenged holly with the question. >> did you give matthew any type of poison? >> no! >> did you give matthew antifreeze? >> no. >> did you poison matthew? >> no it's not a fact because i didn't do it. >> have you told anyone that you put something in matthew a drink? >> i never put anything in his drinks. i never said i did. >> holly protested and none of this made sense.

>> he was the person i wanted to spend my life with. our dreams and our goals and my life is upside down. i know nothing. the family despises me. >> with that, the detective thanked her and sent her on her way with a warning that most likely she would be indicted. >> do you know you have a warrant for your arrest? >> that was september 2010 when holly was not indicted. not that year. not the next year either. something strange happened in 2011. holly answered her phone and found herself talking to a guy she dated briefly after matt died. >> do you remember what you told me about the drinks? >> you hear the trap snapping shut. >> police and prosecutors think they hit the new witness, but is

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>> in the summer of 2011, five years gone. matt podolak's death was still an unsolved mystery. mark podolak neglected his own in his quest to prove holly was the killer. >> i know my relationships with my friends suffered. ultimately led to me getting divorced. it was destructive on a lot of levels. you focus so much on a certain goal. a certain mission. you are so damn angry. >> even angrier now if that is possible. because there had been a change. it was reclassified as a homicide. holly was living her life free, no charges filed. >> i became frustrated. i'm not going to lie. >> so frustrated he sent a message to dateline on facebook asking us to look into his brother's death. holy and her family were waiting to see if the hammer would fall.

>> i can't tell you how many times she cried knowing that people are saying that she is a murderer and this softball coach can kill a man she loved. >> day by day, sergeant mike quinn was closing in on holly. one more thing. one solid piece of evidence. maybe he and the prosecutors decide, maybe the jail bird can decide it. she briefly dated a guy a year or so after matt died. during a wine and sex-driven evening, holly made some kind of a confession. this thought the prosecutors was gold. >> what are did he claim he heard? >> he claimed to have heard holly mcfeeture confess by saying she put something in his drinks.

>> prosecutor brian mcdunn. >> she wanted to stop, but his kidneys had failed. that was compelling evidence. >> always something. >> he was not exactly the local church pastor. when he came up with a little out brick about holly, it was in county jail for arrests. so a snitch. >> the prosecutors, we don't like to inform, but what was so compelling about his testimony is that he was the only person to have that knowledge. >> how would he have that knowledge in the first place some how would he hear that? >> from her lips to his ears. >> but how could they possibly prove this? one possible way, sneaky. it might work. they set up a phone call, kennedy in prison called holly. they turned on the tape recorder. >> hello.

>> holly. >> yes. >> you know who this is? >> yes. hi jamison.>> what's going on w. >> just like it is with investigations, the call was not everything they hoped it would be. so here they were in a cross roads. did they go forward or drop it? the evidence, the story of a jail house should snitch with multiple felonies, never an easy sell. an ex-friend offered to get rid of her husband. be it real or imagined, a financial motive that at most might have amounted to $15,000. a bit of dixie chicks karaoke, the performance of which may have been cruel or perfectly innocent. still, who else could have done it? >> the details of the case -- >> allison foy.

>> there is sex, there is the allegation of poisoning. it's very interesting and certainly enough to keep anyone's attention. but that doesn't make it necessarily a strong case or a dead bang winner at trial. >> so the prosecutors consulted mark and his family. the family should decide. >> i said this is where we are. he laid it out. he said we can take our shots and see where it goes. >> you may lose. >> you might lose. we wanted to go with it. we suffered long enough. >> case number 564265, holly mcfeeture. >> in 2012, years after matt podolak's death, holly mcfeeture was indicted for aggravated murder and contaminating a substance. from her mug shot, it didn't look like she was worried, but

this was serious. maximum sentence, life without parole. her attorney applied for bail. >> she was scared. she missed her kids. i would say in a state of shock at that point. >> the judge took a look at the circumstantial case against her and granted the bail request. a half million bond with an ankle bracelet. so the case was not the strongest, there was publicity and antifreeze poisoning. holly was suddenly famous and not in a good way. the old little league with the once beloved coach told hershey wasn't welcome anymore. holly feature prepared to defend her in court. >> with antifreeze. the prosecution's theory of how holly poisoned matt. >> you can't smell it and you can't see it. he would have no way to know

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. brother, matt, mark podolak watched with satisfaction as holly mcfeeture walked into the courtroom. >> i finally felt we were going to make this happen. >> the case against holly was possibly a reach. no guarantees here. mark knew it. >> being in the courtroom -- >> you don't have it? >> they had no idea how it was going to turn out.

>> the prosecution didn't have much to work with. without hard evidence, the case boiled down to a process of elimination. someone did this to matt. who else other than his fiance. in this case, telling a story would be crucial because there wasn't a lot else to do. >> absolutely. >> brian mcdonough began with the scene inside the hospital room. the night matt died. >> his body was shutting down. his organs were systematically shut down. >> then matt's father described the horror of watching his son's final agony. he couldn't talk except to ask for his children. >> he would say where is little man and samantha? >> a picture was passed around

of matt dead-on the autopsy table. mark began to cry and so did holly. the coroner said what he found during the autopsy. discovery that became the core of the case against holly. are poisoned with antifreeze. very, very slowly. he explained he found crystals in matt's heart and brain having inched their way through the body. >> how much time would it take for the crystals to deposit themselves in the blood vessels of the heart. >> the fact that crystals were forming in his heart and he had traveled through the brain indicated long-term exposure and not a one-close deal. >> matt's friends said they had seen his body disintegrate

before their eyes starring weeks if not months before his death. >> he began explaining of back pain. he was sitting beside me and practically was hunched over to where his chest was on his knees. >> who could have made that happen and how? they found antifreeze in holly and matt's garage admittedly a year after holly moved out. they knew they couldn't link these bottles to the crime, but even so detective quinn took them out of the bags for the jury to see. left them on the witness stand. a little courtroom theater. >> a bottle of antifreeze. partake a look at the bottles, the prosecution seemed to be saying. common sense would tell you it wasn't suicide. no one would down antifreeze on purpose, let alone bit by bit. >> there was no suicide note.

he didn't give away his possessions. suicide did not make sense. >> there was one person the prosecutor argued and only one who had the means and the motive to poison matt. his fiance, holly feature. a parade of witnesses testified about matt and holly's rocky relationship and the bitter words and fierce arguments. they couldn't help but overhear. >> when we were fishing that phone was ringing every five minutes. she was screaming so loud he was holding the phone away from his ear. >> i said he needed to protect himself and i said he should remove his shotgun from the house. >> prosecution witnesses described how holly seemed almost giddy after matt died. >> what did you observe of the defendant at the wake?

>> i won't say. a party atmosphere like nothing had happened. >> they called holly's old friend, rebecca vega. if anybody had a ring side seat to holly's life after matt, it was rebecca. >> how was it in that courtroom to see her there to answer the questions? >> i didn't even look at her. >> rebecca told the jury holly didn't wait long to remove any trace of him from their house. >> it seemed as if everything of matt's had been taken out of the home. >> it was what holly hadn't cleaned up that made the biggest impression on rebecca. the bottles of chemicals on the kitchen floor. >> what was holly's response when you asked her about that? >> one of the items was antifreeze for matt to winterize his boat. >> to do what? >> winterize his boat.

>> who does that in the summer? rebecca's story was evidence that holly had access to antifreeze around the time of matt's death. >> she was able to put antifreeze in the kitchen of holly mcfeeture after the death of matthew podolak. >> now to convince the jury that holly fed the antifreeze to matt. that would take a little doing. first several of matt's coworkers said holly sometimes dropped off matt's lunch at the factory. >> holly would bring it in for him. >> how many occasions do you recall that happening? >> a half dozen. >> holly always made sure to include matt's favorite drink. raspberry iced tea. antifreeze is sweet, but otherwise tasteless. she spiked the tea. >> you can't smell it and see it in the tea. he would have no way to know

it's coming. >> why in heaven's name would she do such a thing. what was the motive. the prosecution saw it and all the arguments matt and holly were having the relationship she wanted to leave and he did not. stubbornly. because he didn't want to lose custody of those kids. >> it's your claim he was sticking like glue and to get rid of them, he had to poison him? >> a way out. sweetened by the fact that she was the beneficiary of his insurance and 401(k). he was worth $15,000 to her if she died. >> that's chump change basically? >> for some person. it might be worth $150,000 to another. >> interesting theory.

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the tears became sobs as if she in full-blown terror or panic could not go on. all this happened as the attorneys were at the bench conferring with the judge before kennedy's testimony began. holly left her seat and rush to her sister in the gallery and broke down. it all happened in front of the jury. >> mark podolak was not moved. in fact, he was disgusted. >> where was that emotion during the funeral. where was that emotion when your lover was dying in the hospital? yet a guy you haven't seen in

years steps into the courtroom, you have an emotional break down? that is courtroom drama in my opinion. >> was she afraid of the man? or was she afraid of what he had to say. the business was highly unusual. visibly shaken, she was allowed to leave the courtroom as he testified. >> how do you know holly feature? >> i met her at a bar she worked at, the dirty dog. >> he was an ek conholly dated a year or so. a snitch from the jail cell. was it wise to call him as a prosecution witness. he had eight felony convictions under his belt and now serving years for beating up cops and here he was a central witness against holly. >> he's an alcoholic and a drug addict and wants something so he will say whatever he has to say. >> he didn't want anything in

exchange for what he was going to come to court to say. he knew that he was going to be in prison for a while and nothing he could say in court would change that. >> kennedy's story if the jury chose to believe him was a potential game changer. it was september 26th, 2008, two years after matt died, kennedy was on probation and holly stopped by the law office where a kindly defense attorney had given him a job and a place to sleep. they shared a bottle of wine and ate take out. >> we were both a little bit tipsy. after drinking, we ended up having sex. after the sex is when things got emotional. she started crying. >> what did she say? >> she made some remarks that she wanted it to all go away. she wanted to move out of cleveland. she was regretful for what had taken place.

>> regret? about what? kennedy told the jury he pushed holly to tell him more. >> she told me at that time she was sorry for what she had done. >> what had she done? >> on her words put something in his drink. >> what had she put inside of his drink? >> she didn't tell me. >> did she say what happened after putting something in his drink? >> um, that he had gotten sick and passed away. >> it was quite simply stunning. but, big but, was it true? could the jury really take the word of this eight-time convicted felon? yes said the prosecution, because of this. >> did you tell anyone about what holly mcfeeture told you

about putting something in your drink? >> yes. >> who did you? >> my attorney. >> not exactly that. he testified that kennedy asked him in a cryptic way what he should do if he knew about a murder. he didn't holly or a particular murder. >> did you provide him with any advice? >> i told him if he had information of that nature, he had to inform whoever about this supposed situation. >> kennedy didn't tell authorities anything. then not until he was sitting in a jail cell under arrest for assaulting the cops did he hope police would go easy on him if they told him something they wanted to hear? he believed kennedy's story because kennedy offered details only someone close to the crime

would know. >> no mention to the media anywhere. where did it come from? >> the fact that this is the witness who we could bring forward to say that i heard holly mcfeeture confess to putting something in matthew podolak's drinks is so important that it couldn't not go to the jury. >> thank you so much for your time and consideration. >> with that, the prosecution concluded its case of circumstantial evidence. but there was a giant void in the room, a big empty hole where the hard evidence usually goes. what will the defense make of that? the defense strikes back. >> you have no idea how that man died. >> i didn't have to see physical proof. >> you have no idea whatsoever how that man died, do you? >> not to my knowledge. peekaboo. ♪ hi, honey. ♪ pbht!

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. for almost a week, holly mcfeeture's family sat in a courtroom listening to prosecutors accuse holly of drip by drip, ounce by ounce, feeding her fiance the poison and watching him die. monsterous, evil, and said her family, completely untrue. just nasty gossip. >> it was a bunch of people talking bad about my sister. >> such a one-sided burn her at the stake type of scenario. >> the defense attorney agreed. >> it was all speculation. it was all just finger-pointing

without any basis. >> and now they knew they would have to persuade the jury to buy something they believed in their gut. holly mcfeeture was wrongly accused. >> i don't think i believe in the innocence more than i believe in holly feature. >> they put neg cards on the table. holly and matt were fighting a lot, but that was hardly a surprise. two babies and one was colicky and matt was out fishing all the time. >> just because somebody is arguing every day that is a sign of hatred and i'm going to kill that person. >> that story that went around about holly's behavior was uninformed judgment made from afar that became this big myth that holly didn't care. >> i can tell you right now she didn't care. >> you can't. you can tell anybody here what she was thinking? >> no.

you can read it on her face. >> read it on her face. >> you don't have to be crying your eyes out at a funeral to not be grieving. >> know the defense argued all the testimony maligning holly's behavior was a product of the six plus years of rumors and innuendo courtesy of the authorities. hardened into what sounded like truth even if it wasn't. >> if you listened to the witnesses, they all turned away once they talked to the detectives. >> that was certainly the case, said the defense when her friend cutoff contact with holly about a year after matt died. >> who is accused of murder? >> you can't look at her anymore. >> after she looked at the police did she begin saying what she said at the trial. >> you had no idea how that was.

>> i didn't have to see physical proof. >> i asked you a question. you have no idea how that man died. >> not to my knowledge, no. >> the memories of the happy days with dark suspicion when they whispered about the antifreeze in the kitchen. >> holly has children and she is very careful. i know she would not leave chemicals like that just lying around the house. >> the assault on holly was a smoke screen for the hard evidence the prosecution did not have. like anything connecting holly to the murder weapon. by which of course you mean the antifreeze. remember those two bottles of antifreeze they found in holly and matt's house after she moved out? >> a blue bottle with antifreeze and coolant.

>> they showed them off like a crown jewel, all the while knowing they had no known connection to anything or anyone. the defense was on that and no fingerprints on the bottles and indication it was even the same kind that killed matt. no indication they were in holly's house when she lived there. >> those two bottles are not linked to matthew podolak at all. they are not linked to holly at all. >> other than the fact that they came from that address. >> what was the point of that? >> exactly. there wasn't any? >> were they implying a connection? >> they were grasping. >> the theory that holly disguised the hasn't freeze in matt's beloved iced tea. there was zero support for that. >> do you know how the tea got in the thermos? >> no clue.

>> none of the homes were ever tested and the thermos was never tested. nothing was ever connecting that it was even iced tea. >> the motive, the prosecution suggested, the modest life insurance money, laughable said the defense. wouldn't even buy a decent car. holly said she had no idea the insurance existed. matt's uncle couldn't say otherwise. >> do you have personal knowledge that holly knew there was a life insurance on this health insurance? >> i can't say i did. >> holly's defenders did have a problem. a huge problem. that pillow talk with jamison kennedy when according to him holly actually confessed. if they couldn't knock him down,

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. what in heaven's name was holly feature a defense attorneys do about this. >> her words is she put something in his drink. >> there was no avoiding the impact of those few words from jamison kennedy. just the mention of his name sent holly into an epic break

down, weeping and sobbing and fleeing the courtroom. the next day was the defense attorney's turn to take him on. holly regained her composure and came back into court. the strategy was to pick apart kennedy's story, expose him for what he most certainly was. a liar. >> what did you say about being tipsy? holly had a glass of wine or two that night. he knocked off an entire bottle himself. >> you are still telling the jury that holly was tipsy or drunk that night, right? >> yes, sir. >> in fact it was you that was drunk that night, not holly. >> i think we were both feeling a buzz. >> this was the sort of moment that the defense attorney probably lives for. listen. >> were you aware that holly is allergic to grapes and can't drink wine? >> no.

>> was this a man who could be believed when he said he had a real relationship with holly. >> she said he was stalking her and got her name tattooed on him. >> how did she feel about this? >> she was afraid. >> kennedy admitted he got angry with holly when he heard a rumor she was with another guy. >> you grabbed her by the neck and threw her against a wall and punched her numerous times. that type of angry, right? >> no, sir. >> no, that didn't happen. >> i do believe i pushed her only when she approached me to try to hit me with the phone or to smack me or something. i stiff armed her away. i think she fell down. that was the extent of it. >> really? she said kennedy punched her five times. he had fled and she said she was going to get a restraining order. before she could, he was at her door again.

when holly called the police, kennedy fought with two of them before he was arrested. only then after she turned him in and he was in jail facing years in prison, burning up with anger that he called his attorney to try to make a deal. >> you said charlie, give me the police, i have to help myself get out of this jail. i'm going to tell on holly, right? >> also he was concerned she would try to put this on me. >> now we got a experienconspir theory that holly would blame you for the death of matt. >> just attorney recommendation. >> the attorney who bent over backwards to provide jam with a job and place to say while he was on probation said what happened. kennedy stole from him. >> jamison threatened your life? >> he threatened me, yes.

>> your family also? >> yes. >> he had mental problems and was not stable, right? >> correct. >> according to the defense, not even the police believed kennedy. for more than two years they did nothing about his allegations. after the two years, they couldn't find evidence, they put his story to the test by orchestrating that phone call from kennedy in prison to holly, trying to get her to incriminate herself. curiously the prosecution didn't mention that call in court. so the defense was only too happy to push play for the jury. this was something they had to hear. >> holly. >> yeah. >> you know who this is? >> yeah, hi, jamison. >> holly was taken by surprise. hadn't heard from him for years. police were listening. >> do you remember what you told me about the drinks? >> what drinks?

>> the drinks for matthew. >> what did i tell you about that? >> didn't work out so well for police or mr. kennedy. you trying to accuse me of doing something? >> i'm not trying to accuse you of anything. >> you are putting words in my mouth right now. i never said any such words to you. about ever putting anything in his drinks. i would never have done that. he was the father of my children and we were supposed to get married. are you serious? what a thing to say to me right now. >> no, holly didn't confess. not then, not ever. kennedy was a kick puppy who saw an opportunity to combine revenge with a little self-help. >> you are now trying to tell everybody that holly confessed to you about this case because it would benefit you, correct?

>> i know it's morally right, sir. >> if you knew it was morally right, you would have gone to the police on september 26th, isn't that correct, sir? >> i should have. >> big morals. thank you very much. i have no further questions. >> the prosecution said kennedy did not get a deal in exchange for his story. don't you believe it, said the defense. wait and see. >> in march of this year, he will have five years and ask a judge of this court to let him out. >> one more question to answer, if it wasn't holly, who was it? the defense offered doctor robert box, forensic pathology. matt was not poisoned slowly overtime. the kor mcoroner made a mistake. all that pain matt suffered was from simple kidney stones.

nothing to do with antifreeze. >> is this pain a symptom of poisoning? >> shouldn't be, no. >> this wasn't a case of chronic antifreeze poisoning. this was a text book case of accuse poisoning. a large dose. >> this is a massive ingestion. you have to drink almost a pint of it. >> the most likely person to have poisoned him was matt himself. >> as to the manner of death, what would your ruling be? >> probably be a suicide. >> suicide by antifreeze. a method more common than most people realize. >> who killed himself with antifreeze. the stuff would be horrible. what a terrible death. >> not true. it happens all the time. >> there have been famous cases. a retired pro football player

and a writer for "saturday night live." why matt. >> he had gambling debts and he was depressed. he wasn't happy at work. throw in experience pain from kidney stones and throw in maybe they were not having the best relationship at that time. that all adds up to suicide. >> at that, the defense asked the judge to throw out the changes against holly. >> your honor, there has to be evidence and proof and something that the state did to show that holly was the one who did it. it just doesn't exist. >> for a moment it seemed like the judge might grant the motion. he ruled holly feature's fate would be decided by the jury. as it turned out, very slowly. >> ethylene glycol, odorless, colorless, sweet-tasting.

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. the day since matt podolak took his last painful breath. the prosecutor convicted holly feature. >> he fell in love with the wrong woman. she was toxic to him. >> this was the closing message. a stark visual. look how easy said the prosecutor to mix antifreeze

into matt's beloved iced tea. look how hard it was to detect the poison. >> odorless, colorless, sweet-tasting. >> the defense appealed to the heart. there were two tragedies in the story. matt's death and holly's suffering. nothing could be done about the first, said the defense, butt jury could rectify the second. >> that ends the nightmare to the family's tragedy. >> this could be a close call. the jury went out. no verdict at the end of that first day. or the next. matt's brother mark didn't know what to think. >> you don't know if the jury being out long is a bad thing or a good thing. >> holly's sister tried to stay confident. >> hearsay from a man who was in prison. iced tea on the table. >> finally at the end of day three, cell phones started

buzzing. verdicts. holly looking like she had seen a ghost headed towards the courtroom. >> please rise! >> as the jury filed in, holly began mouthing the lord's prayer. >> i understand you have reached a verdict. >> then the judge began to read. >> we the jury being dual empanelled and sworn do find holly feature guilty of aggravated murder in violation of section -- >> i heard those words, guilty and it was emotional. >> mark turned to hug his mother, her face washed in tears. across the courtroom -- >> nobody could react. it was total shock. nobody was expecting that. >> the guards came in and wrapped handcuffs around holly's

wrists. she shook her head no and seemed to be with the words, less than a whisper. >> she looked at me and she was gone. >> what goes through you? >> it tore me apart. i couldn't understand how it happened. it wasn't supposed to happen like this. >> the defense team did nothing. the prosecution's case was so flimsy, they thought, how did it go so wrong? >> still wondering what happened. >> this was not an easy for the prosecutors. the sort of thing you might walk away from if you didn't let yourself get caught up and didn't care a lot. >> what was it like to get the guilty verdict? >> it was the worst that we do. it was a good one. >> you mead with the family at the beginning. you are on the journey of all the way through.

being able to deliver something to them that they believed from the beginning. it made it very satisfying. >> a month later at the sentencing, holly's sister wanted the judge to know what the children thought. their mother was not a murderer and they were begging him to send her home to them. >> my mom is the greatest mom in the world. because she is kind. i really want to see her again. i really miss her and i wish i could have my mom back. >> then a surprise. matt's father, the retired cop had become an ordained minster and told the judge he made a decision. >> i had come to the point where i can forgive holly and i have forgiven her and i am asking you, your honor to temper justice with mercy. >> mark, seven years of

suspicion, frustration and anger finally came bursting out. filled the courtroom. >> i just have one simple question. why? why put someone in unimaginable pain when you could have walked away from the relationship. why slowly poison him when you could have stopped. why take away from the children he so dearly loved. >> the sentence was swift and stern. >> the nature of the crime cannot be overlooked and i'm going to impose a sentence of with parole eligibility after 34 years. >> holly won't be eligible for parole for 30 years. is it over? no. the process of appeals has begun and so has the struggle with the futures over the children. they are living with holly's family now. matt's parents have not seen them in years. >> we want them in our and want them to know who their dad was.

>> the night before holly started serving her sentence, kristi took the children and they couldn't touch. the glass barrier separated them. they spoke over a jail house phone. >> it breaks me heart. it's hard to watch. i had to turn away because like i said it was heart breaking knowing that they couldn't touch her babies that she loved so much. >> mark podolak went where he always goes on the anniversary of matt's death to talk to his brother at the cemetery this year with a lot more to say. i hope they are proud of their big brother. i can hopefully help you rest in peace a little bit more. >> this year there will still be a podolak playing amateur hockey here in cleveland. matt loved the game. mark took it up in his memory.

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