from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> yes, your eyes are not deceiving you. we have a house band today for booze day tuesday, june 3rd. o.a.r., of a revolution. >> if you don't know them, you should. they are hot. h-o-t. >> you know who else is? >> who? >> i hope we survive. ricky gervais is not only here, he's staying with us the whole hour. >> allegedly.

we have a location for him. there is a glass of wine and a chair. >> yes. >> but he's on his way. >> we heard a rumor. so we're waiting for him. all right, so if you love the swimsuit model sports illustrated, remember that? >> yes. >> there is a little bit of a twist on that, okay. plus sized models are doing their own thing. they're like this, you know what, we can have our own calendar. >> absolutely. >> they posed, these women posed in the exact same position as they did on "sports illustrated". >> sexy at every curve. >> this has been online. at first, they're like, we'll do a calendar but we'll see how interested people are before we continue. they only shot a few months. well, apparently, people are into it. and so they are doing the whole calendar. >> it is not something you can purchase, though. you got to go online. it is for free, right? >> yeah, it is free online. and they -- this is a collaboration between a swimsuit company called swimsuits for all

and fashion blogger named gabby gray. >> i bet they're still getting sand out of some crevices. you take the pictures and you don't realize you're going to pay for weeks because that sand gets places you don't realize you have. >> yes, indeed. okay. so we think, curvy, beautiful, et cetera. >> is awesome. >> is awesome. charles barkley -- >> doesn't think so as much. >> stepped into it. this is a bigger topic than what charles barkley said or didn't say. it is about people apologizing. so charles barkley was on the show he has, it is called "inside the nba," where a bunch of guys jaw about basketball. well, he took a little swipe at some women from san antonio, texas, who he thought were -- >> fans of the spurs who -- let's hear what he said. >> let's hear what he said about the women of san antonio. >> yes. >> what kind of women are -- some big old women down there. >> why would you say that? >> that's a gold mine for weight

watchers. >> why does every conversation about san antonio potentially come around to -- >> spandex. >> no, victoria is definitely a secret. they can't wear no victoria secret down there. it is a secret. some big old women. >> charles -- >> victoria's secret down there. >> okay, so -- >> boy, i thought "the view" was hard to understand. did you -- except for very isolated moments where somebody said something that you could actually understand, what is that? >> okay. on tnt's "inside the nba," he basically said that san antonio is a gold mine for weight watchers. >> which he is a spokesman for. >> right. he lost a lot of weight himself, i understand. >> he lost some. so this caused an uproar. so charles barkley was asked to

apologize by some different groups. >> okay. charles barkley said no, no. i'm not apologizing. i'm not doing it. apparently billboards were erected, they were upset at charles barkley for that kind of thing. so here's the bigger question. when someone says something stupid, or hurtful or whatever, should they have to publicly apologize? should they have to come before the nation, the cameras, and say, i'm sorry for the way that -- we have been seeing a lot of these apologies of late. >> the only kind of apology that actually works is one that your own conscience tells you to make, not one your press agent says you have to do in order to -- i think people can tell the difference when they're actually made. let's see what he did say. he said, some of you people don't like my sense of humor. here's what i got to say, turn off your television, i'm not going to change. okay. but i admire his honesty if he

doesn't feel like -- we all say things. i don't think he hates heavy women or -- he said, big, old women. i should be really angry, but -- >> we don't live in san antonio. >> but i think it is a constant -- you know, some things you say in jest. you got to know the person, and the intent of the heart. >> think about all the apologies over the years. hugh grant, remember, he went on jay leno and apologized. >> he had to. >> david letterman apologized after he had some affair with his staff member. alec baldwin said he was sorry after he yelled at his daughter on the cell phone calling her a rude, thoughtless pig. politicians, i'm sorry for what i did, i hurt my wife, i hurt my -- apologized after all of that, took him a while. reese witherspoon had to say she was sorry after that video when she was arguing with the police officer.

paula deen said she was sorry, justin bieber said he was sorry. charlize theron -- >> i don't think she said anything yet. >> she recently compared the scrutiny that she got as a celebrity to rape. now, i heard her -- i heard the tape and i thought, well, you know, she sort of means being violated. that's what i got from it. >> unfortunate choice of words. >> she's done some speaking for rape victims and things like that. but everyone was, like, she doesn't know what that feels like, she needs to go, you know, she needs to go and apologize. we had our own way to save us from stupid things we said, and we say it daily. we say dumb things on our program. and people sometimes ask us, kathie lee would like to apologize for what she just said when she's currently saying and what she's about to say. >> right. >> that worked well. >> done with tongue firmly planted in cheek. >> yeah. >> because i think if people get to know you through the years, they know the intent of your heart and they know you're not trying to hurt somebody, not trying to be damaging to

anybody, and i don't know. but look at justin bieber, what he just said, the n word thing. well, donald sterling was made out to get -- he's got to sell the clippers, right? because there is a pattern of racism, a pattern of racial comments. but if you look at justin bieber's life, he was -- his mentor is usher who is african-american, there is lil' twist -- >> who can remember. >> lil' kim. lil wayne. he hangs out with these people and they're friends. >> they know his intent. >> he was also 19 years old or something and said something stupid. so i don't know. do we really want to live in a world, you guys, where every time somebody says something that is just a little bit misunderstood that they have to just be a cookie cutter person? we live -- we're all unique individuals. and when something is truly awful, let's call it out. >> i agree. i'm tired -- the apologies

aren't really -- they don't feel real. they don't feel like -- >> you just continue to survive. >> i think one thing people should apologize for is being late. don't you? >> like ricky gervais. >> not here yet. >> we reached out to charlize theron, but guess what, we haven't received a response yet. >> a quick question for facebook. do you feel differently when someone apologizes? do you feel differently about the individual or person? do you feel like, oh -- >> and why? >> that would be great. you were very busy yesterday. >> you know what, i was. i went last night with christine and frank over to hoboken, where i haven't been in a long -- a charming little community in new jersey, right across george washington bridge. it was the 75th anniversary of a place called leo's grandevous. and frank sinatra was from hoboken. and you walk in and it hasn't changed. it's been open for 75 years, through world wars, through, you know, hurricanes and downsizing

and all kinds of things. a lovely people. there was a reason for the visit, which i'm not allowed it talk about. >> oh, my god. >> this is my friend rocky's husband agun. yes. and, you know, this guy -- they're playing all this frank sinatra music, and i thought they were playing frank sinatra's cd. no, it was a guy named david sudano who walks around with a mike singing. >> i love it. >> people take the mike. frank was singing time after time. >> i love frank. >> you know what, it was so much fun and we were spreading a little cheer, if you know what i mean. >> mm-hmm. >> i'm not allowed to talk about it. >> i want to wish a quick happy birthday to a guy who is a huge fan of our show. >> who's that? >> his name is david potter. he turns 87 today. he is -- there is david. we want to wish david a very, very happy 87th birthday.

>> the other thing, many of you on our facebook wanted to know what the name of the book was i talked about yesterday, one of the most profound books i have read in over 20 years and it is called "the reason for god" by timothy keller, $9 on amazon.com, extraordinary book. >> all right. when the time is right to use the l word in relationships -- >> we'll get the man's point of view in our guys tell all. first these messages. and music from o.a.r. avo : this is paul.

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>> he stole the show as host of the golden globes three years in a row and is the genius behind clever comedies like "the office," when he wrote and produced in the uk before it was adapted into an american hit. >> ricky is back showing off his softer side as the loveable but brutally honest derek who recently tackled twitter. take a look. >> what do you want to say? >> derek says -- >> that can be your hash tag. >> what's that? >> it looks like that, if you put that before derek says, they can see it and follow it. >> hash tag derek says -- >> got that, yeah. what do you want to say? >> be nice to animals. yeah. send. that's all right. >> i love this. nice to see you again. >> how are you? >> great to be here. >> second season now, huh? >> yeah. well, second season, it is six episodes.

>> it is officially called a second season. >> we give you credit. >> still the pilot. >> you didn't get the ax, you know. >> no, i've never been canceled. i cancel myself. i think they've had enough of me now. get out while the going is good. >> same with the golden globes too? >> yes. three, two series and a special. i'm thinking of doing a third series with derek, because i love it so much. >> your character is so loveable. >> so sweet. i love him. i love being him. he's the better part of all of us. he's got no pretension, not burdened by peer pressure. just great. >> a little criticism from some parts. >> the boy in the kitchen. what's going on? >> they're fighting over you. >> some people want to find fault. they thought you might be making fun of this person. he's beloved. >> i love him more than any character. i wish he was real. i wish i was friends with him. he's just so sweet and it is so uplifting as well.

people think it is so sad, but it's not. it is really funny and uplifting. >> you cry one minute and laughing the next. but that's like life. >> well, people say, drama or comedy, i say what's life? what's your life? it is funny. then something sad happens. >> call it crimedy. >> i get tweets from people, i cried my eyes out, you should have warned me. >> that's what happened when we first watched it. >> you love these characters. it is set in a rest home. i didn't realize so many family members you had. >> my mom -- my sister-in-law there, kids now work in care homes, just for the elderly or people suffering with alzheimer's. i have 30 years of anecdotes and some are sad and some are funny and some are sweet. >> but real. >> and i just got such an affection for the character and the world. i love -- it is just great being on set with the older actors in their 80s and 90s.

ldest working actor in britain at 95. and they're as sharp as a pin and funny. some of them are actually asleep. had a heavy lunch. they drink like you in the morning. >> no, no, no. >> time for your nap soon. this is orange juice. they tried to push wine on me. >> let me ask you a question about something we talked about in our chat. all of these people are doing things, saying things on the air, and are being asked about apologizing. charles barkley made a comment about people who are heavy in san antonio. charlize theron made a comment about people, gwyneth paltrow and they all come out and they apologize. what do you think about this public apology thing we have here? >> well, i don't know, really. it depends. i think there is a -- there seems to be a culture of

everyone being the judge and jury. and i don't think it means much. it depends if it was -- people get into private conversations. well, that's, you know, it's meant to be private. like going through someone's diary and getting offended at what you're reading. you shouldn't be reading it. it depends. if somebody has a platform, a politician come out and says something horrendous, they should be accountable for it or role models. people being overheard or spied upon, i just think -- we do things in private that we don't want to be seen in public. >> what would derek say? >> i know. >> listen, we love it, we think it is very dear. we totally understand your aspect, your take on this. he is the person -- the best of

all of us. >> i think so. he's asked before we get burdened by what we should say and what we shouldn't and what is expected of us and cynicism. such a comedy of cynicism and irony. i've been guilty for the last ten years, you know, but i think it is nice to say what you like now and again. just say what you like. that's what it is like being derek. just says everything -- i love these two. they're drunk already. i like them, i like them. >> pulling the plug on you, buddy. >> thank you, ricky. >> come back and see us. >> give our love to derek. >> will do. >> our guys tell all panel gathered to help you figure out your relationships. >> that's right. and more music from o.a.r., the pride of rockville, maryland. ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner? we could save you a boatload!

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♪ o.a.r., baby. >> they're terrific. time for "guys tell all" when our hunkie men -- who wrote that -- answer your burning relationship questions and let you in on what guys are really thinking. >> comedian and actor rick younger, married with a son. married father of three, comedian chuck nice. three now? >> yeah. >> and sadly single host of bob and jessica live, bob guiney. >> we saw the single guy and it dawned on us, he's divorced, he's single. >> across the street and let's

get our first question. >> i'm brooke from yakima, washington. i was just curious, is it appropriate for a daughter to ask someone out for their mom? >> i wouldn't say it is inappropriate. i mean -- who is she asking out is the question? it is like, you know -- >> i think that could be cute. would you like that? >> well, no. i wouldn't. i think it can be cute, you're hanging out, this girl is like, my mommy thinks you're handsome, would you go to dinner with her. that's not crazy. >> it has to do with a lot of things. when a cute kid asks you things, you're then put on the spot to -- the kid is cute, but the mother, not so much. >> i'm sorry, i'm not about it. i don't dig it at all. i don't need a daughter pimp. i don't need a daughter pimp, okay. look at my father. he's pathetic. want to go out with him? no, no.

>> okay. a little tease. the guys will be back to answer your questions. >> okay. >> and a special performance from our house band today o.a.r. >> new cd they have out. >> about their hometown of rockville, maryland. after your local news. thank you, guys.

♪ ♪ all that it takes is time ♪ i'm shattered i always turn the car around ♪ >> more, more, more. >> we're back with more of "today" on this booze day tuesday. we have a great house band with us today. >> o.a.r., they're going to be performing their newest hit a little later. right now, more of our guys tell all" with married man rick younger and chuck nice and

divorced bob guiney. >> love you. so sad. >> here is the question, e-mail from debbie. when your spouse snores, who should leave the bedroom and sleep elsewhere? >> well, here's the deal, i'm already sleeping. that is why i'm snoring. so you should leave. because i'm already asleep. >> at that point, it is not about who is right or wrong. if you want to get some sleep, get out of there. >> i've never seen a relationship long enough to know the answer to this question frankly. but i would imagine -- i'm with chuck on this, if i'm snoring, leave me alone. ñsje:xhvpv"[d]w] >> how would it affect you if the most gorgeous, sexiest woman and not sleeping. >> i know what it feels like. my wife -- sometimes i have to roll her. i roll her. >> the thing is, my wife snores so bad, she wakes herself up and then looks at me like i -- somebody hit me with a motorcycle. i'm, like, you did that. i'm watching you, you just did

that. so i took my phone and i filmed her snoring. >> that's what frank says. >> filmed it. sometimes you should be happy that it is snoring. the other night my wife got up in the middle of the night and started reaching for stuff, i had to grab her by the arm and lay her back down. night terrors. >> wow. >> a question from the crowd. >> i'm karissa from chicago, i was thinking, what is a guy thinking on a first date? >> if you think about it, you go on the first date, you hope there is a connection. >> on date one? >> yeah. >> we're talking first minute, if we're going to be honest. the first minute, you're thinking, you're hoping, you're hoping. and everything else is to make that hope become -- >> that's all. >> you got to be delicate about it.

>> the thing is that women, you all know what you want from us the moment you see us. you're, like, okay, what's going to happen? it is up to us to either not mess it up, and make it not happen. >> we make all the decisions. >> a woman know if she wants to sleep with you if she sees you. if you keep talking, sometimes you make it so that doesn't happen. what you try to do, let me say enough, but not too much to mess up that part. >> funny, but not too funny. >> don't make fun of kids. >> don't want to have to apologize. >> after the first month we stopped getting intimate. he made excuses. everything else is great in the relationship. i asked him if there was anything i could do, he said for the 100th time, it is something within him. >> something within him? >> maybe he's having a spiritual dilemma. maybe -- sometimes -- sometimes you do things and then, you're, like, i moved too fast. >> maybe he actually isn't into ladies. >> oh, my gosh.

>> all righty then. >> it is a family show. >> oh, my lord. >> brad is an acronym. >> go ahead. read it. >> oh. if you want to submit a question, be careful, go to klgandhoda.com and hit the connect button. >> we're getting things cooking with the fun chef. >> don't say a word. >> o.a.r. performs their latest single. >> everyone over there. wheeeeee! the comforting scent

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♪ such a great band. >> i can't wait for the whole performance. >> it is time to cook with us, so grab your ingredients. we're making the light summer recipe that you guys voted for. >> chicken lettuce wraps are a featured dish at the general here in new york city where hung wynn is executive chef. so nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. glad to be back. >> chicken lettuce. >> today we're making a version of the chicken lettuce wraps from the general. we're making something very easy, like teriyaki sauce. >> okay. >> soy sauce into a boil.

>> you can use low sodium. >> low sodium. a lot of honey. >> honey and garlic. >> and garlic. >> garlic is one of most important ingredients in all of chinese cooking, isn't it? >> yes. bring it to a boil. cornstarch and we go and that's it. >> that's it? and you're done. >> you can just buy it. >> you can make it like that in 30 seconds. >> okay. >> we grill the chicken. we slice it. >> come here, kath. you have a station. >> oh, i do? >> we have a lot of herbs. like a salad. basil, mint. we have chicken, avocado, carrots, add whatever you want. >> we can make our own? >> yes, tomato. >> take it from there. >> i'd like to cut my even. >> okay. how about that? >> barbecue, add something, pickles, coleslaw, potato salad, whatever you have. >> i don't like scallions. >> why? >> i don't like them. i'm sorry.

>> look at that. >> wow. >> like that. and it is done. that's beautiful too. >> that's hoda right there. >> i like it nice, like that. >> grab the chicken. >> chicken. >> avocado, teriyaki. >> or have the ones already made up before and they're delicious. >> why are we doing this? i want to try one of these. i want to try one of -- the mint is good. >> very refreshing, very light. >> i would have never thought of that. >> isn't that good? >> what's this? >> side dish, zucchini, roasted tomato with thai basil. >> wow. thank you so much. >> easy too. >> thank you, hung. >> i think that's you. >> one family's courageous journey of love, hope and faith

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according to the children's heart foundation, one out of every 100 children born has some type of congenital heart defect and half of those will need surgery or some other procedure. >> for the families of these children, the diagnosis is devastating as fox news channel anchor bret baier and his wife amy found out nearly seven years ago. >> everything was going right for us. we were in that special blissful moment after the birth of our first child, paul. >> 24 hours late, a nurse thought his color was off. he was breathing fast. his heart beat wasn't right. after tests, a doctor told us paul's heart was extremely complex.

blood was flowing the wrong way, there were two holes in paul's walnut sized heart and he had three other congenital defects. if paul didn't have complex surgery to restructure his heart, he wouldn't make it. >> while paul battled for his life, we needed to be strong and stay healthy. we prayed. we held him. and loved on him. six years and two more open heart surgeries later, paul is an active little boy. even completed the 5k race for children's national, a fund-raiser for the hospital that saved him. >> great. >> love it. >> great story. >> paul is now almost 7 years old and he's here with his parents bret and amy and his brother daniel, the best little brother in the whole world. >> this great new book called "special heart: a journey of faith, hope courage and love." what a great family, by the way.

>> it is amazing story. and i've been through that with my family member as well, you think the child is perfectly fine, and you find out so soon, you know, they can tell so quickly. and you guys -- the joy of that at the moment, and the panic. >> how did you handle that news so quickly after he was born? >> you know, we were -- the biggest high, we were told paul was perfect day one, day two, we find out he had heart life threatening defects. we were in a low place. we made a conscious decision we were going to be positive moving forward and surround paul with love and positivity. and be the parents he needed us to be. >> was that difficult during that tough time? >> it was tough. we had this -- we had this perfect pregnancy and we were expecting -- the highest of highs. >> and had not detected any problem at all along the way. >> beautiful pregnancy. >> it was great. and then so we went through this journey. and the reason i wrote the book is because, one, paul is doing fantastic.

and, two, you know, we thought that this book could help other people. everybody has something. >> or knows somebody. >> or knows somebody, yeah. >> and hopefully can be an inspiration. and make some awareness of it. >> is it hard to watch, sweetheart, when you see everything that went on? >> no. >> you're okay? >> mm-hmm. >> you did that race and everything? >> mm-hmm. >> wow. >> were you guys surprised to see how common heart disease is among little kids? >> yeah. >> 1 in 100 kids are born with congenital heart defects and of those babies, 50% need to be operated on or need a heart procedure within the first year. it is more common than people realize. >> i'm sorry. ultimately it was three little children who had lost their lives who gave of their organs, their aortas. >> part of the fix, donated baby aorta and three of them, three families donated. so it is a powerful thing. we hope to make awareness about what people can do to get through it. one, accept the help that you -- your family and friends give,

accept it. make sure you're healthy. you're not good for anybody if you're not healthy. and think about the other end of the story. for us, it was the power of prayer, for others, just think about what it is like to get to the light at the end of the tunnel and that's -- he's doing great. >> so happy. >> all the proceeds are going to be given to various organizations that help with this problem, right? >> thank you so much for coming to see us. >> i love all the baier hair. >> all right. >> we're back with a live performance by o.a.r. and more of "today" on nbc.

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>> we loved it. their journey started at a garage in rockville, maryland, and their latest album out next week takes us back to where it all began, and it is aptly called "the rockville lp." now o.a.r. is getting ready to hit the road with philip philips and a portion of the proceeds of their tour go to habitat for humanity. >> they are mark, jerry, richard, ben, chris and mike. >> and joining them in the back there, the mt. carmel holy rosary gospel choir. hi, guys. >> you went home and all heck broke loose, huh? >> we really based our entire career off the feelings that our part of the world gave us when we were growing up, made us feel included. our friends were everything to us and music brought us all together. the music makes sense. home made sense. just being back there felt right. >> how was thanksgiving? >> thanksgiving gets you. i don't care who you are, you're home, you're with your people, you feel it. so we made songs about it.

>> you guys filled the garden a couple of times, played so many great venues and we're glad you're here with us. what are you playing today? >> our new song "peace". >> looking forward to it. >> all right, here they are. ♪ ♪ i don't wanna fight no more ♪ only wanna get to shore ♪ baby don't slam the door tonight ♪ ♪ we ran another off the tracks ♪ ♪ that's time we can't get back ♪ ♪ we can save tomorrow if we try ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh until we make this right ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh i won't say good night ♪ ♪ i just wanna make you laugh i just wanna see that smile ♪

♪ babe, we're only here oh for a little while ♪ ♪ i just wanna hold you till ♪ we fall asleep ♪ i want love i want us ♪ i want you i want me, i want peace ♪ ♪ everybody needs a place somewhere that's warm and safe ♪ ♪ for shelter from this crazy world we're in ♪ ♪ but tonight i let the rain inside i took away your place to hide ♪ ♪ i'm sorry that i made you cry again ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh we can make this right ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh kiss me good night ♪ ♪ i just wanna make you laugh

♪ i just wanna see that smile ♪ babe we're only here oh for a little while ♪ ♪ i just wanna hold you till we fall asleep ♪ ♪ i want love i want us i want á ♪ i want me i want peace ♪ yeah, i want peace ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh we don't have to fight oh, oh, oh, oh just kiss me good night ♪ ♪ cause i want peace yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ i just wanna make you laugh ♪ i just wanna see that smile ♪ babe we're only here oh, for a

little while ♪ ♪ i just wanna hold you till we fall asleep ♪ ♪ i want love i want us ♪ i want you i want me i want peace ♪ ♪ i just wanna make you laugh ♪ i just wanna see that smile ♪ babe, we're only here oh, for a little while ♪ ♪ i just wanna hold you till you fall asleep ♪ ♪ i want love i want us ♪ i want you i want me i want peace ♪ ♪ i want love i want you ♪ i want me i want peace >> wow. >> the pride of rockville, maryland, baby. >> awesome. where can people come see? >> doing that on tour, red rocks in june. come on out. >> tomorrow, actress laura dern is with us.

>> genevieve gourder. everybody have an awesome day. >> thank you. >> i'm here to help. you and i will get through this together. ♪