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know what's going on, everything can change. >> it's a packed sunday, i'm chuck todd. joining me to provide insight and analysis are nbc's joe scarboroughboro, malika henderson of the "washington post," andrea michelle, andrew liter, buzzfeed's john stanton and amy walter of the political report. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press." and good morning. obviously it's a pretty big honor for me to be sitting in this chair as the 12th moderator of this program following in the footsteps of the likes of tim russert and, of course, david gregory. as you can see, we're making a few changes around here. as i like to say, we're living in a house as we remodel it, so the program in this studio will continue to evolve over the coming months. but what better way to start off my first show than with an

exclusive sitdown with the president of the united states. to say it's been a long, hot summer for president obama is quite an understatement. the brutal rise of isis in iraq and syria, and their execution of two american journalists triggered usair strikes in iraq. the president invited criticism when he made this frank admission. >> we don't have a strategy yet. >> more criticism came when he went golfing shortly after condemning james foley's murder. all this contributing to the sense the world is spinning out of the president's control. at home the president's approval ratings hit all-time lows and many democrats are desperate to distance themselves from the white house. >> all this hanging over his head, yesterday i sat down with the president in the cabinet room of the white house. >> mr. president, welcome to your 12th appearance on "meet the press." >> great to see you. >> thanks for doing this. start with a very basic question, are you preparing the country to go back to war? >> i'm preparing the country to make sure we deal with a threat from isil.

keep in mind, this is something we know how to do. we've been dealing with terrorist threats for quite some time. this administration has dismantled al qaeda and isil. isil poses a broader threat because of its territorial am bigs in iraq and syrisyria. the good news is coming back from the meeting, the entire international community understands this is something that has to be dealt with. so what i have done over the last several months is first and foremost make sure we've got eyes on the problem, that we shifted resources, intelligence, reconnaissance, did an assessment on the ground. the second step was to make sure that we protected american personnel, our embassies, our consulates. that included taking airstrikes to ensure that towns like erbil

weren't overrun, critical infrastructure like the dam and were protected and able to engage in humanitarian missions that saved lives. next, we have to get an iraqi government in place. i'm optimistic next week we should be able to get that done. and i will then meet with congressional leaders on tuesday. on wednesday i'll make a speech and describe what our game plan is going to be going forward. but this is not going to be an announcement about u.s. ground troops. this is not the equivalent of the iraq war. what this is is similar to the kinds of counter-terrorism campaigns that we've been engaging in consistently over the last five, six, seven years. the good news is because of

american leadership, we have, i believe, a broad-based coalition internationally and regionally to be able to deal with the problem. >> what are you asking of the american people. you're giving a speech. that's the type of thing, i assume you're preparing the country for something. what are you asking them? >> i want american people to understand the nature of the threat and how we're going to deal with it and have confidence we'll be able to deal with it. >> you're giving that speech the day before the 13th anniversary of 9/11. >> right. i want everybody to understand that we have not seen any immediate intelligence about threats to the homeland from isil. that's not what this is about. what it's about is an organization, if allowed to control significant amounts of territory, to amass more resources, more arms, to attract more foreign fighters including from areas like europe who have europeans who have visas and can

travel to the united states unimpeded, that over time that can be a serious threat to the homeland so. what i'm going to be asking the american people to understand is, number one, this is a serious threat. number two, we have the capacity to deal with it. here is how we're going to deal with it. i am going to be asking congress to make sure that they understand and support what our plan is. and it's going to require some resources, i suspect, above what we are currently doing. >> this is asking congress for a vote, authorization of your strategy. this is not -- what does that mean? define that. >> i'm confident i have authorization i need to protect the american people. i'm always going to do what's necessary to protect the american people. i do think it's important for congress to understand what the plan is, to debate it. that's why we've been consulting with congress throughout. this speech will allow congress, i think, to understand very clearly and very specifically what it is that we are doing,

but also what we're not doing. we're not looking at sending in hundreds of thousands of american troops. we are going to be as part of an international coalition carrying out airstrikes in support of work on the ground by iraqi troops, kurdish troops. we are going to be helping to put together a plan for them so that they can start retaking territory that isil had taken over. what i want people to understand, though, is that over the course of months, we are going to be able to not just blunt the momentum of isil, we are going to systematically degrade their capabilities, we're going to shrink the territory they control. ultimately we're going to defeat them. >> long way. long way from when you described them as a jv team. was it bad intelligence or misjudgment. >> keep in mind, i wasn't specifically refer to isil.

i said that regionally there were a whole series of organizations that were focused primarily locally, weren't focused on the homeland. i think a lot of us when we think about terrorism, the model is osama bin laden and 9/11. and the point i was -- >> you don't believe these people -- >> not yet, but they can evolve. i was very specific at that time. what i said was not every regional terrorist organization is automatically a threat to us that would call for a major offensive. our goal should not be to think that we can occupy every country where there's a terrorist organization. >> you have not said the word syria so far in our conversation. obviously if you're going to defeat isis, you've used much stronger language during the week on your trip to wales, you've got to go to syria in some form or another. you've ruled out boots on the ground. i'm curious, have you simply

ruled them out for domestic reasons or is there another reason for ruling out boots on the ground. your own guys have said you can't defeat isis with airstrikes alone. >> you're absolutely right about that. you also cannot over the long-term or even the medium term by dealing with this problem by having united states serially occupy various countries all around the middle east. we don't have the resources. it's put enormous strains on our military. and at some point we leave and then things blow up again. >> with iraq. >> we've got to have a more sustainable strategy which means the boots on the ground have to be iraqi. in syria, the boots on the ground have to be syrian. >> who? >> well, we have a free syrian army and moderate opposition that we have steadily been working with, that we have vetted. they have been on the defensive, not just from isil but the assad

regime. the strategy both for iraq and for syria is that we will hunt down isil members and assets wherever they are. i will reserve the right to always protect the american people and go after folks who are trying to hurt us wherever they are. but in terms of controlling territory, we're going to have to develop a moderate sunni opposition that can control territory and that we can work with. the notion that the united states should be putting boots on the ground i think would be a profound mistake. i want to be very clear and very explicit about that. >> i got a somewhat snarky e-mail from a casual viewer who said, the united states gives a lot of military aid to saudi arabia. it's about time they use it. what do you say to that? >> i think it's absolutely true we're going to need sunni states to step up. not just saudi arabia, our partners like jordan, united

arab emirates, turkey. they need to be involved. this is their neighborhood. the dangers posed are more directed at them right now than they are us. the good news is i think for perhaps the first time you have absolute clarity that the problem for sunni states in the region, many of whom are allies, is not simply iran, it's not simply a sunni shia issue, sunni extremism as represented by isil is the biggest danger that they face right now. >> assad, essentially putting aside that priority that assad must go because isis is a more direct threat. >> you know, the reason we're in this situation is because assad

brutalized his people and specifically brutalized a sunni population that is the majority in syria. it's going to be hard for us to attract sunnis to fight against isil in this area if they think we're doing it on behalf of assad. so our attitude towards assad continues to be through his actions, through using chemical weapons on his own people, dropping barrel bombs that kill innocent children that he has foregone legitimacy. but when it comes to our policy and the coalition we're putting together, our focus specifically is on isil. >> part one of my interview there. some of you might have noted the president hadn't mentioned syria at all in my questions, he had mentioned it but hadn't said whether he took military action. let me start with you, former

head of the counter-terrorism center. that is a president now getting briefing from your successor now and that believes those briefings. >> he believes they are a threat regionally. i don't think they see this as a homeland threat to the same degree that they should. >> you think he's downplaying the 9/11 threat too much. >> i think they can from the homeland. organizations before, al qaeda and pakistan, it has to include the offense. that has to be in syria. you can't get around that. that's the long pole on the tent. >> saudi arabia, brought that up, wants moderate sunni, john kerry traveling there all this week. is that going to happen? >> it's going to take a while. you can't totally roll back. you can't roll back what happened for three years. saudis and others in the region are very upset, angry, they don't trust this president to go after assad because he didn't. he is basically saying he's

outlining a war against isil in iraq, based on an iraqi army that has yet to be approved effective at all. so if you're only going to fight them in iraq, degrade them, syria, with the syrian army we let down for three years, we have not armed them to their needs, how does that work? it's a strategy. it's the clearest strategy. this was an incredible interview in that he's laying it out point by point. >> this is a long way from i don't have a strategy yet. >> he's got the strategy. the question now is will it work? >> we refer to it as isis, obama administration says isil. the last s stands for syria, the last l they don't want to stand for syria. joe, he's going to give a speech, american public. what does he need to say, do you think, that will rally american public to his strategy? >> i think he laid it out pretty well. you have to remember we look at the polls, six months ago, three months ago, the american public

said they didn't want to get involved, they didn't want a hyper active policy. we're an exhausted nation. i think the president is taking a very reasoned measured action. >> you think he's too -- >> i don't think he's been poll driven enough for a lot of democratic senators who this past week started breaking and suddenly sounding a lot more like john mccain. >> yes, they are. >> than you would expect democratic senators to sound. but we obsess over things like the jv team, which i obsess over. we all do. the brown suit. i don't have a strategy yet. the american people aren't there yet. it's about safety. it's about security. again, this president is taking a fairly measured approach and that's not where democrats are but that's where a lot of conservatives are. >> this vote in congress. he's asking for a vote. it's interesting, not authorization he says but he wants them to basically thumbs-up or thumb's down on the plan. that's what he's asking for. >> he talked about a buy-in.

he didn't specifically say authorization. he said he had that -- >> buy-in is funding. >> exactly. he talked a little about resources. that's exactly right. i was on the hill last week and it looks like this congress is looking at this next two weeks where they are on the hill as sort of a lame duck period, right, in trying to do the bare minimum. that might be what he faces going forward. he's also facing a congress that might not want to go forward. >> what's happening in october. >> interesting, do they really want to use september to debate. >> they have scheduled hearings for the 16th of september. >> then there's a vote, bill nelson has to put forward a bill on this authorization. >> we now know what our september will be about, about isis, abroad and here. thank you andrea and michael for being here. my national security gurus are sticking around. a lot more from the president's

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democratic senate. >> well, that's not the reason. a couple things i want to say about immigration. number one, i have been consistent about why this is important. the country is going to be better off if we have an immigration system that works, that has strong border security, that has streamlined our legal immigration system, so the best and the brightest who want to stay here and invest in here and create jobs here can do so, that families can be unified and that a system where millions of people who are here in many cases for a decade or more, who have american kids, who are neighbors, oftentimes our friends, that they have a path to get legal by paying taxes and getting aboveboard, paying a fine, learning english if they have to. so the good news is we have bipartisan support for that. we have a senate bill that would accomplish that.

the house republicans refuse to do it. what i said to them was, if you do not act on something that's so common sense you've got labor, business, evangelicals, law enforcement, folks across the board supporting it, then i'm going to look for all the legal authorities i have to act. i want to make sure we get it right. i want to make sure that all the ts are crossed. >> don't play politics. looks like election year politics. >> not only do i want to make sure ts are crossed and is are dotted. here is the other thing, chuck, and i'm being honest now, about the politics of it. this problem with unaccompanied children that we saw a couple weeks ago, where you had from central america a surge of kids who were showing up at the border got a lot of attention, and a lot of americans started thinking we've got this immigration crisis on our hands. what i want to do, when i take executive action, i want to make sure it's sustainable. >> if the public is not behind you, you're not taking it.

sounds a little like you're concerned the public wouldn't support what you did. >> what i'm saying is i'm going to act because it's the right thing for the country, but it's going to be more sustainable and more effective if the public understands what the facts are on immigration, what we've done on unaccompanied children and why it's necessary. >> ebola. there's some anxiety in the country about it. obviously it's something that africa is trying to get its hands around. there's obviously anxiety in the united states. how concerned are you and how concerned should americans be? >> well, americans shouldn be concerned about the prospects of contagion here in the united states short-term, because this is not an airborne disease. >> i noticed you said short-term, though. >> i'm going to get to that. it's not an airborne disease like the flu. you can only catch it through the transmission of bodily fluids. the problem that we've got is in

right now a limited portion of western africa. so what i've said, and i said this two months ago to our national security team is, we have to make this a national security priority. >> u.s.-led effort. >> as usual. we're going to have to get u.s. military assets just to set up, for example, isolation units and equipment there to provide security for public health workers surging from around the world. if we do that, then it's still going to be months before this problem is controllable in africa but it shouldn't reach our shores. now, here is the last point we're going to make. if we don't make that effort now and this spreads not just through africa but other parts of the world, there is the prospect, then, that the virus mutates, it becomes more easily transmittable and then it could be a serious danger to the

united states. >> what's rational for this election. i'm going to be cynical here. $3 billion, i would argue, to decide harry reid or mitch mcconnell on the gridlock on the senate. we're talking what's the difference between a two-seat democratic majority and two-seat republican majority as far as your agenda is concerned. >> first of all there's a sharp ditch between the democratic agenda and republican agenda and the american people want to know that. if you've got democratic senate bills are introduced to raise the minimum wage. that's something democrats support. >> is that on your desk? >> i'll get to that. equal pay for equal work. we care about that. republicans, that's not their priority. we think it's important to make sure that issues like family leave and family friendly policies and more effective child care are in place so that folks are getting help, that young people are getting more assistance when it comes to paying for college educations.

rebuilding our infrastructure, putting folks back to work on our roads, our bridges, all of which would boost our economy now and boost it into the future. on all those issues, there is a sharp contrast. now, it is true that if the house stays republican, then it's unlikely that i get a lot of these bills to my desk, but it makes a big difference if we've got at least one branch in congress that is presenting these ideas, making arguments. i know that given the gridlock that we've seen over the last couple of years, it's easy to say these midterms don't matter, but the fact of the matter is that on every issue that's important to middle class americans, overwhelmingly we're going to see a majority prefer the democratic option and us having a democratic senate that can present those issues and put them forward just like they did

on immigration, even if the house republicans fail to act means that we're debating the right stuff for the country. we're debating the things that are going to help us grow. >> this wouldn't be "meet the press" if i didn't have a chart with me. year of action on the state of the union, it's going to be small here, bigger for the state of the union. a lot not accomplished here one thing about supporting rebels. immigration, overhauling tacks, raising minimum wage. you brought up the issues yourself. that was with a democratic senate. that's why you look at this and sit there and say, how does things change and do you think your presidency is in bigger trouble than if you have a democratic senate? >> i think elections matter, i think votes matter. given the fact that the punditry overwhelmingly felt -- >> you're overly pointing at me on that. >> that this was going to be a good year for senate republicans because the seats that were up

were in states that were tilting or significantly -- with significant republican majorities. if democrats hold the senate, i think that should get republicans to, once again -- >> sends a national message. >> i think what it does is to send a message to republicans that people want to get stuff done. their strategy of just obstructing and saying no to every piece of legislation that might help middle class families, that might create ladders of opportunities for people, that that is an agenda that the american people reject. that then gives us room, hopefully, to find some compromises. look, i've said this before, chuck. if you ask me back in august what i want for my birthday, i would say, give me a loyal opposition that has some common sense and is willing to work on

some basic issues that didn't use to be partisan issues. >> well, for more reaction on the domestic portion of my interview there, joe and nia is back. john is on buzzfeed because we didn't have enough goatees and amy walter. joe, let me quickly start with you. you just made a comment off camera. make it off camera. you thought you heard deja vu all over again. >> i'm surprised. i think the president's warren gates has been engaged, watching, you know what, this guy looks like he's finally getting reenergized and he's ready to play. then i hear him say, you know, if we win this time, then this time republicans are going to get the message they have to work with us. he said that to me in 2012 before the election. he said if we win this time, then they will understand that i'm legitimate. i said, well, bill clinton got re-elected and we impeached him the second time.

>> is that where you're headed? >> that's not where i'm headed. but the idea if republicans don't win this time that suddenly they are going to play ball isn't the answer. the answer is figuring out the way you figure it out. how do you come to a deal with these guys on issues that matter? >> stanton, he was trying to make the rational for why the midterms matter. when you have to say i know some people don't think but they really do matter, it's a tough sell, clearly about energizing the democratic base. >> trying to get women, latinos out. the election doesn't matter. unless a thing happens in the next two or three weeks that creates a massive wave. >> we're trying to have some shows here -- >> clearly in terms of legislation passing. if democrats keep the senate and they have a two-seat or one-seat

majority or republicans take it and have a two-seat or one seat majority, you're still left with the same dynamic in washington. as joe says, until he figures out a way around that, it's going to day the same. >> let's go to immigration, nia and amy. nobody is happy with this decision. we've got the president hitting left and right. here is pro immigration rights group. in june president obama promised he would take every action england to fix our broken immigration system by the center. today he said he won't until after the election. the delay comes with human cost. >> john boehner, never auto a right time to declare amnesty, to delay possibly unconstitutional unilateral action instead of abandoning the idea smacks of raw politics. >> isn't it always raw politics. chuck, come on. >> this is most from the president. >> it is. although, i will say this. he is correct when he said after the crisis on the border, there was a jump in concern.

you could see that in the polls, where this issue on border security went up. where it becomes raw politics is when you recognize democrats are playing complete defense this year in the race for the senate. they are playing in red states where this issue is always going to be red hot. so whether there is a border security issue or not, taking executive action on anything republicans can call amnesty was going to boost up republican base. >> you look also, arkansas, louisiana, north carolina, alaska, kentucky, montana, georgia, this does not help a single -- >> nia, this map, you have this great stat, eight of nine states with competitive senate races, hispanics make up less than 10% of the electorate. >> that's right. very small. if you look at those southern states right now, it's anywhere between 3 and 8% of this electorate. it will be different going forward because you do see this population boom among hispanics.

you look at a state like colorado. this is going to matter. you have mark udall saying he wishes the president would move forward on this. 12% of the electorate in colorado will likely be latino. >> that's what i'm wondering, he's trying to get the democratic base out. this is going to upset. >> let's say this, 2016, this is a bitter problem going forward. if they are seen as the party that still does not bring in latinos, it's a problem. >> they are not thinking about 2016. >> they worry about that. all right. coming up, i've got more from president obama. but first a little bit of a break here. what washington can learn from american cities, where more and more mayors are getting things done despite the red-blue divide. >> announcer: "meet the press" is brought to you by the morgan stanley institute for is brought to you by the morgan stanley institute for sustainable investing. the so what we're looking for is a way to "plus" our accounting firm's mobile plan. and "minus" our expenses.

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houston plant, 200 projects to improve quality of life with quarter billion of mostly taxpayer dollars. to seattle, which voted to raise the minimum wage and detroit where private money is revitalizing a moribund motor city. in oklahoma city, what used to look like this now looks like this. all designed to jump-start city economies. scenes us bureau figures now show many urban populations are on the rebound. >> how desperate was oklahoma city? >> we may have had the worst economy in the country. we finally decided we're going to have to invest in ourselves. no one is going to come bail us out. >> the mayor says oklahoma city had been decimated. a tanked economy, the horror of the bombing of the federal building, and a tornado had left it desperate for rebranding. >> it's almost as if we grabbed hands, pulled each other up and dared the world to separate us

again. >> a penny on the dollar sales tax was agreed to. yes, a tax increase that will pump some $1.8 billion into rebuilding. everything from a new minor league baseball stadium to brick town entertainment district. attracting young people seeking vibrant city life and seniors seeking services. every school in the city received dollars for improvements. to ensure the city got noticed and stayed noticed, it lobbied for and won an nba franchise, the thunder and star player kevin durant now call oklahoma city home. >> this place is humming. >> this place is on fire right now. >> the secret this town's republican mayor says is in attracting people. if they come, businessing will follow. it's all been done without a meny of debt and with little help from washington. >> we stand here and look with

our jaws open at the inefficiencies of washington where it seems more important to win some partisan argument that it does to deliver services to the citizens of your community. >> here he says there are no republican potholes or democratic potholes. and getting them fixed has been taken care of right here locally. for "meet the press," kevin tibbles. >> i'm now joined by three mayors who are getting things done. republican cornett and from pittsburgh and marilyn strickland from washington, an independent. look at that, dri perfectly. mayor strickland, i'll start with you. i know there's a little seattle oklahoma city rivalry with the basketball team. don't get too upset about sonics. what was famine his story to you? >> what was familiar to me was a story of resilience. i think that's something oklahoma city shares with tacoma and pittsburgh.

economies that struggled in the past but really trying to rebound by doing innovative things in our communities. >> i think what's interesting, you went to the private sector. you have bill and linda gates foundation. they are locals. they helped you transform an education process. >> absolutely. it's the tacoma housing project. we're basically trying to address the fact that for a lot of students who aren't doing well in elementary school, it's mobility. the families move around too much. through this project we're able to stabilize housing five years through housing vouchers and give a chance for stability. >> mayor, pittsburgh, the most livable city, talking about it, transforming from manufacturing economy to this new tech economy. what is it about washington you wish would help you out more or forget it, we'll have to find different ways? >> i think we're living in a new normal. pittsburgh's overnight success story was 30 years in the making. it really came through an idea that it would be transformed into something that it wasn't. today we're looking and saying

how do we become a city of learning. partnerships with the white house. early on conversations with the president and with his administration on if early childhood education isn't going to take off in washington, or if it's going to take two years in battles to get something that may be watered down, find a dozen innovative mayors around the country. let us run with the ball. >> a pilot project. >> secretary duncan come into pittsburgh to announce a yuu)ur+e grant which i'm sure we're going to be competing with these mayors on. we'll do it. we'll create universal education for four years old. i want pittsburgh to be that type of city as i'm sure other mayors will see in their cities. washington has to understand it's about getting the job done. it really isn't about the political victory that holds us back. >> you've asked for tax increases when you've needed it. here you are republican, deep red oklahoma. let's not pretend, this is not light red, deep red oklahoma. you've got people to back tax increases. what do you pull off that maybe republicans in capitol hill

can't? >> i think the citizens have begun to differentiate between the type of government they would like to pay for and don't like to pay for. they like capital project they can go up and touch and feel. less enthused about social programs when they really wonder how efficiently run they are. >> what would you say a lesson to washington should be of your story and really the same question to all of you guys. what's one lesson they want to take away from oklahoma city? >> in your interview the president talked about this great divide between republicans and democrats. in my view it's up to the executive branch to be the bridge in that divide. it's what i do with my city council. i think it's one of the ways our city has begun to move forward so rapidly. >> what about you? >> i would say as mayor, you're about being an ambassador, bringing people together. an opportunity to keep people focused on the goal and not get people bogged down. >> it'sez to say, mayor, we all know raw politics there are. it seems like washington is there.

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one final chunk of my interview with the president where we talked about the pressure of the job and how he sometimes struggles being under the relentless strcrutiny. >> i've had former aides of yours, plenty of supporters of yours say he looks exhausted. are you exhausted? >> i actually feel energized about the opportunities that we've got.

there are days where i'm not getting enough sleep because we've got a lot on our plate. when you're president of the united states, you're not just dealing with the united states, as we saw during the nato summit. if there's a problem in ukraine, we're the ones who are expected to mobilize the world community to isolate russia, put pressure, support ukrainians and to vindicate the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity and freedom that we stand for. if there's a problem in the middle east, the expectation is that we create the coalitions to deal with a problem like isil. if there's an issue in africa around ebola, we need to help mobilize that public health infrastructure. so you know, it's not just me, it's my staff also. where our in box gets pretty high. >> during vacation, made the statement on foley, went and golfed. do you want that back?

>> you know, it is always a challenge when you're supposed to be on vacation, because you're followed everywhere. part of what i would love is a vacation from the press -- >> i promise you in two and a half years i think that happens. >> the possibility of a jarring contrast given the world's news, there's always going to be some tough news somewhere is going to be there. but there's no doubt that after having talked to the families where it was hard for me to hold back tears listening to the pain they were going through after the statement that i made, that i should have anticipated the optics. that's part of the job. you know, i think everybody who knows me, including, i suspect,

the press understands that you take this stuff in. it's serious business. you care about it deeply. but part of this job is also the theater. part of it is how are you -- >> you hate the theater. >> well, it's not something that always comes naturally to me, but it matters. i'm mindful of that. so the important thing is in addition to that, am i getting the policies right, am i protecting the american people, am i doing what's necessary? >> i think i need to prebook you for next week, i have another 35 questions. with that, mr. president, thank you very much. >> great to see you. >> the full unedited interview is already on the website right

now on "meet the press." let me start with you, the president talking optics. he does -- he hates that aspect of the job. he admitted it. it was sort of a very honest moment. >> i remember president obama in 2008 or candidate obama, he did the optics then. >> good optics. >> he got the theater of politics. this idea that somehow he doesn't get it now, i think, he gets it. i think he probably just doesn't care at this point and he's fine with blaming the press. >> presidents do have to compartmentalize. that's a fact. you could never go to sleep. >> they do have to compartmentalize. i remember reading a column talking about first ladies saying pat nixon made a great peanut butter and jelly sandwiched that relaxed

president richard nixon. if that's what he needs to do, she should do it. presidents should be able to golf, do what they need to do. obviously he made some mistakes. they say they don't do theater. they do theater they want to do. i was glad, it was good to hear the president say. i'm not really good at it. i probably should be a little better at optics. that's hard for him. >> it's important to note, i messed up the optics. he's not saying i shouldn't have done it, he's saying, look, i deal with this all time. you guys just had a different picture. >> they have had this problem, particularly the last few years since the election. it's been a systemic problem for the administration where they don't quite understand these things matter to people. it does matter seeing the president serious. leaving something like that and not being out laughing and joking with his friends. i think most americans get he can compartmentalize, this

doesn't necessarily impact doing the job. it matters psychological. >> to win elections. this guy has -- he's been attacked for not getting optics since 2008 in many ways. he's won by a larger margin than any other president since bush in '88. so forgive the white house for shrugging and saying what's the big deal. >> just to be clear, we know the people behind him are saying, hey, don't do'>!s it this way, way. they think about the optics all the time. at the end of the day, he's saying, you know what, i'm going to do what i want to do. >> he knows more than you do and anybody else in the public knows about all the security issues going around. so don't tell me i wasn't taking this seriously. i took 15 calls while i was out there. >> absolutely. stick around. coming up, aç fun new feature. what everyone in washington knows but is adventure to say or what everyone in washington knows but is adventure to say or won't wnearly one in three children in america is overweight. say or won't let's lighten up those numbers with fruits and vegetables, lean protein, and lots of water.

add in plenty of active play and the odds of good health are in your favor, the more you know. i am going to be making a decision around the first of the year about whether i'm going to run or not. i have to be convinced that i have a very clear vision with an agenda of what i think needs to be done. >> you just heard it there. hillary clinton, and it dove tails with another new feature we're bringing to the show, what

everyone knows but afraid to say. with that in mind, i'm going to make a decision, amy walter, i'm going to have a decision -- come on mexico city. >> what have these last few weeks been? the book tour is the campaign. as she talks about another issue, it's cheer she's ready to go. >> january, is it too soon? >> when she announced before, she announced in january. january 20th. president obama announced in february. >> seven opponents. >> take some flack and attention away from her. but she's also going to face a situation where it looks like republicans, won't name any named, rand paul, seems to be eyeing. >> i guess, joe, obviously if she's making a decision in january, that's a way to freeze everybody else. that's the decision, go early and go home. >> i hate to be the thick one on the panel but that's my job. i'm not so sure she's going to run. it's just like with jeb.

i'm still trying to figure out if jeb is going to run. we get the information jeb is freezing everybody. we know she's freezing everybody. it's such a disastrous book tour when it should have been so easy. why does she want to do it? she's been struggling a long time. >> i think the longer she teases people, the worse it is for her. if she's going to run, she's going to have to come out and say sooner rather than later. it's ridiculous theater to watch. the public is going to say -- >> all right, guys. i have to leave it there. we'll be back next week. you know why? if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."

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