this sunday, a funeral and a rebuke. the country says good-bye to an american hero. john mccain. >> he meat a better presence as he made the senate this country. >> what the senator's daughter, among others, taking aim at president trump. >> the america of john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was always great. >> president trump responds later, by tweeting, make america great again. plus, pressure points. president trump claims if democrats win back congress, they will overturn everything we have done and do it quickly and violently. >> i hope there won't be violence. >> and warns he can step in

against the mueller investigation. >> i will get involved and in there, if i have to. >> this means the white house is not prepared for what may be coming. >> republican senator, dan of alaska and amy klobuchar of minnesota. plus, all about that bass. florida republicans pick a die hard trump supporter. >> i was able to talk to the president and thank him for his support. >> an unapologetic progressive. is this showdown for governor where the country is headed? this morning, i talk to democratic nominee andrew. joining me are amy walter, national editor for the cook political report. mark leibovich, kimberly at tins correspondent for the boston harold and matthew. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press."

announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning and happy labor day weekend to everyone. what we saw yesterday was more than a funeral for john mccain. it was also a longing for what many fear is a lost era of american politics. an era when we could agree there's more that unites us than divides us. it was a rebuke of donald trump's presidency and style of politics he's brought to washington. president trump's name was not mentioned, john mccain reminded us of what he thought by whom he asked to attend and asked to speak. a ma he fought against in 2000. >> for every attempt to forget who we are and grow weary of our cause, his voice is a whisper over our shoulder.

we are better than this. america is better than this. >> then the man who defeated mccain for the presidency in 2008. >> he did understand that some principles transcend politics. some values transcend party. he considered it part of his duty to uphold those principles and uphold those values. >> more than anything or anyone else, there was mccain's daughter, meghan. fighting through tears, she delivered a one-two punch of the current occupant of the white house. here is one. >> we gather to mourn the passing of american greatness, the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly of the appropriation of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served.

>> then, number two. >> america does not boast because she has no need to. the america of john mccain has no need to be great again because america was always great. [ applause ] >> president trump was not invited. he spent part of the funeral tweeting and left the white house during the funeral by motorcade enroute to his virginia club to play gulf. later in the day, as cable tv plays meghan mccain's remark over and over, the president tweeted and retweeted, simply, make america great again in all caps. >> we have a lot to get to. joining me is dan sullivan. welcome. >> good to be on the show. thanks for having me. >> you said he was your mentor, senator mccain, became a friend, put his arm around you when you were elected. he nominated you to replait him

as head of the international republican institute that goes out there and promotes democracy. the vision that john mccain was trying to lay out for people yesterday. what did you take away from the service? >> first, i thought it was a beautiful service. first, more than that, my condolences to the mccain family, cindy mccain, the children. i think that they showed great grace, strength, dignity. i think the service, really the whole week, has been about unity. there's been, as you mentioned at the outset, discussion about the tension between president trump and john mccain. this notion of unity is really what i have been seeing. it's unity behind the values of a great american. that's john mccain, courage, someone who loved freedom. he loved freedom more than anybody because he had it taken away, service to our nation and mentorship, as you mentioned at the outset with me. it's not just me, but democrat and republican senators.

so, i thought it's been a very important week to look at the values he represented. he wasn't a perfect man, he is the first to admit that, and celebrate those. the notion of unity was much stronger than the tension you report on. >> let me ask you this, though, how do you make sure that yesterday wasn't a funeral for another era of politics? that this idea that, you know what, the donald trump style of politics is now how you win? john mccain was trying to send the message, no, no, no, don't go down that road. how do you prevent yesterday from being a memorial service from that? >> john mccain was a fighter, there's no doubt about that. he also was somebody who famously said that honesty, integrity is the core value and keeping your word in the senate. i actually believe that on a lot of issues, there is bipartisanship in the way senator mccain has focused on. >> i think there is, too.

>> it doesn't get reported on all the time. you are going to have amy klobuchar on after me -- >> the president won't embrace it, though. you are not doing it. >> let me give you a couple examples. bipartisanship that is important, mccain and trump focus. we passed the national defense authorization act. i think all 85 senators voted for that. that was a mccain-led bill on the armed services committee. it was about rebuilding military, implementing a new strategy that the president put out. that was very bipartisan. right now, you follow this, chuck, we are working on appropriations bills. the first time since 1979 that we are actually working on getting appropriations bills done, republicans and democrats done in the senate, the president has been pushing that. certainly john mccain was somebody who believed in that. my point is, you are right, the message of working together, particularly in the memory of

john mccain is important, but i think a lot of that is happening. do we have principle differences on some issues? absolutely we do. a lot of those have been with us for a while. >> how do you explain the president's behavior in regards to john mccain? >> look, we know there's tension between them. the trump administration, overall, was very engaged. you had an important speech the vice president gave at the ceremony of the laying in state in the dome. yesterday, there was a number of folks from the administration -- >> trying to gloss over it, why? the president of the united states. >> what i'm trying -- chuck, i'm not trying to gloss over it. here is what i think is more important. yes, there was tension between the president and john mccain. this week, though, has been all about john mccain and the unity of his vision of courage, of patriotism, of freedom, of service before self. i think that's the lesson we

should take away from the week. that's what i want -- >> what do you want -- how about president trump? what should he take away from the service? >> there's a lot of things the president can learn. look, the book on john mccain, his great life has been written. right? it's been written. for all of us, you know, whether you, me, the president or other americans watching that, you know, we are still an open book. i think there's a lot of things all of us can do, the president, myself, other americans watching this. one of the things john mccain was about, he knew he was not a perfect man. he knew he made mistakes. president obama and president bush emphasized yesterday, he was always looking for improvement. >> yeah. >> and in himself and his country and i think that's something we can all take away, whether it's the president or anyone else watching these important, beautiful services. >> something else the president said this week about the november elections. he said, it was in a meeting with evangelicals, if the gop

loses in november, quote, they will overturn everything quickly and violently. then he added, these are violent people, referring to democrats. is there any basis here? do you understand what he is referring to? >> i don't know. i have not seen that quote and i don't think, you know, democrats are violent people. i haven't seen that quote. what i think is important for the president, other republicans to talk about, i know you are going to talk on the panel, this fall is what we have accomplished, right? one thing that is very important for the american people, in addition to rebuilding the military is growing the economy. we are hitting an economy that is the strongest we have seen in decades, consumer optimism up very high, 4.2% gdp growth because of policies. policies of less government, more freedom, tax reform and regulatory reform.

on the democratic side, we are seeing leaders elected in primaries who have a different view of the economy, more focused on the idea of socialism. let's have that debate in the fall. that's an important debate to have on the decision of growing the economy. i think the vision is working and is strong. >> let me ask you a few question that is may come up. jeff sessions, the current attorney general, do you believe he's committed fireable offenses? >> i supported jeff sessions when he was nominated. i certainly voted for him. i think he's doing a good job. >> do you think there's a reason for the president to -- >> the president has the constitutional authority to remove him. >> i know that. >> he can do it, is it politically wise, i don't think so. i support jeff sessions and the job he is doing. >> you have been helping brett kavanaugh prepare for the confirmation hearing. you were preparing him.

i con flated two things. when he says he believes in precedence, that's he is not for overturning roe v. wade. is that how to interpret when he says he is a believer in precedent overall, that's what every american should take away, brett kavanaugh does not want to overturn roe v. wade. >> i have known brett kavanaugh a long time. i think he was an inspired choice. he would make a great justice on the supreme court. he's been an outstanding judge. he's got a lot of humility, which is a rare quality in this town. i did talk to him about precedence as i did with gorsuch. he actually wrote a book on it. with regard to roe v. wade, i didn't get into the details when i met with him, but -- >> see how silly this is to average americans. they don't understand why we can't get a simple answer from

supreme court nominees. this is a thing on both sides of the aisle. why can't we get an answer on that? >> which question? >> he doesn't want to overturn roe v. wade? >> i think he is going to be asked about this the whole week. we are going to watch on that. this isn't just judge kavanaugh. she said i am not going to predict what may or may not come before the court, that would be prejudging. that's not the role of a judge. i think on key issues, judge kavanaugh, his skepticism on the power and authority of federal agencies is something we need on the court, something that is consistent with the constitution. these are questions he is going to be asked about. i think he is going to make an outstanding justice. >> will he recuse himself on subpoenas? >> i think he'll look at the

ethics with regard to supreme court justice. there's been previous questions. justice kagan had a similar question on litigation. he will do what the code of conducts and ethics require. >> we'll see what he does there. we'll leave it there. thanks for coming on. >> great to be on the show. as we suggested earlier, there was a sense at the national cathedral, with the loss of john mccain came a loss of politics. president obama, among others, made that point. >> so much of our politics, our public life, our public discourse can seem small and mean and petty. trafficking and bombast and insult and phony controversies and manufactured outrage.

it's a politics that pretends to be brave and tough, but, in fact, is born in fear. >> joining me now, on the other side of the aisle, amy klobuchar from minnesota. >> thanks, chuck. >> nice to see you. what did you take away from yesterday and did you see it as a -- >> i saw it as a story of john mccain, his grieving family and grieving nation. people who he had run against, people who defeated him. he invited them in. i think it is no surprise that the subject of the administration came up obliquely from time-to-time. i think george bush actually said it best, to explain it, he said that john mccain's life was defined, in part, by the fact he detested the abuse of power, whether it was people who poisoned opponents or put reporters in jail, or, yes,

people who take on immigrants in a way that he felt was inappropriate, like the president has done or people who would go after fbi agents or p.o.w.s like himself. yes, that was part of john mccain's strength and character that he was willing to stand-up and take on bullies. so, i think that is how you saw it come up. it was really a part of the arc of his life in fighting for those that needed someone to fight for them. >> some of us viewed this week as almost a memorial service for another era of politics. i talk to other senators, jeff flake, in particular says, no, no, no, it should be a call to arms to bring politics back or compromise back. let's be realistic, both parties right now punish you if either side works too close to the other. how do you get that back? >> you get it back by listening to john mccain's words. you have to be fighting for a cause greater than yourself. you see that from time-to-time

in the senate, especially when big things happen. you have to do it again. >> do you see it? >> i do. >> go ahead. >> i worked with senator mccain on bringing down the cost of farmer prices, bringing in drugs from other countries. there are other republicans on that bill. i hope that someone else will come and take the lead. he was the only republican on that bill to take on the social media companies to make them put ads out there. i'm asking another republican to get on that bill. you have a number of cases and senator sullivan went through some of them where we work across the aisle all the time. we have to see more of it. when people are afraid of pissing off president trump so they won't work with us, that's a problem. people are going to have to rise to the occasion. >> you are on judiciary? >> yes, i am. >> as you know, the democratic base is upset, upset at democratic leadership.

they feel as if he didn't like the deal that they didn't like the deal chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell backtracked the judicial nominees. why shouldn't be base be upset about that? >> what matters is what happens at the hearing. you are going to see strong sets of questions from a number of us on the judiciary committee. the point i'm going to make is, this is not normal. you have a nominee with excellent credentials, with his family behind him, the family there and senators questioning. it's not normal. we are not able to see 100,000 documents that the archivist, because the administration said we can't see them, they have exerted their executive power. 148,000 documents i have seen that you cannot see because they won't allow us to make them public. i can't tell you about them on the show. >> do you think any of the

documents could make him unqualified about the job? >> you could ask interesting questions that i am unable to say because i can't make them public. i don't know the result of a hearing. >> so, it raises questions to you, what you have seen in these papers that we have not seen raises doubts in your mind? >> it would bolster, strongly bolster the arguments i could make. the president's campaign chair having been just convicted, you have his lawyer pleading guilty and you have a nominee who has one of the most expansive views of presidential power we have seen in history. this is a guy that says, one, a president should be able to declare a statute constitutional by himself. in writing, he said you should throw out the special counsel statute. this is not normal. >> look at the reality, though. democrats don't have control of the u.s. senate. there is no filibuster and we

know why we don't have a filibuster. this has been a game of chicken that both parties have played. there's nothing you can do. unless you do something out of the ordinary. kevin deleon running against dia diane fieinstein in california s arguing this, stop playing polite country-club politics with a supreme court nominee. i guess the basic question is, if in a similar situation, what would mitch mcconnell do? >> we know what he did, but that was because he had the power. to me, the first answer is we need a check and balance. >> some folks are suggesting you should walk out of the hearing. you have heard that. >> that's interesting. you have incredible senators like corey booker and harris and dick durbin, dick blumenthal, diane, you name it. chris coons.

patrick leahy. we need the opportunity to ask the questions. if we walked out, it would be one side asking the questions. i don't think that's the way you examine a nominee and get the facts out. >> you would have the ability to get all these papers public if there was a threat they needed 60 votes. if democrats get control of the senate back, should the principle be that the filibuster should come back? >> first of all, we would have not supported changing that. >> i understand that. if you get the power, would you support bringing the filibuster back if you get power in november? >> i think we should have had the filibuster in place. by the way, that sounds like a scary word to people out there. >> i understand that. >> it's the idea you have to have consensus. i would like to see 60 votes. i don't think we should have made that change, but it happened because we were

frustrated because president obama wasn't able to get his nominees. i think we would be in a better place now. we left the 60 votes in place for the supreme court. mitch mcconnell changed that. i would prefer to bring it back. we are where we are. i don't think anyone is xwougoio want to hamstring themselves. >> you are on the ballot in november. there's allegations against keith having to do with potential spousal abuse. has he explained himself enough to you, as a voter, to feel confident voting for him? >> he has. there's an article in the new york times that went through this. he is addressing it to the people of minnesota. i think it's being reviewed and he is moving forward. >> are you comfortable campaigning with him? >> right now, i am focused on judge kavanaugh. he hasn't asked me. we have a strong ticket. we have a governor's race focused on that.

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called it civic communion. the city is much more bipartisan than it has ever been, more united than it may seem in its ha hatred of donald trump. >> it was interesting you asked the question about, this was a certain memorial service of an era of politics that is no longer with us. i would also argue that era left us a long time ago. this world that we are in, the tribalism, the polarization, the incentive structure pulled us to this place before donald trump ever came and that he is exasperating it rk, there's no doubt. the service, itself, i think, the call to our better angels, our bettering selves stands out because of the contrast with the president. i think whoever was president right now, these issues would still be the driving force and we are not going to get past it because of the fact there is no

incentive for folks to try to bridge -- >> amy klobuchar admitted that in the question. i'm old enough to remember when george w. bush was the most divisive president in our lifetimes, yet they were making a call to arms for a more civil time of politics. >> becoill clinton, too. ted kennedy at his funeral, there was a call for unity. he worked across the aisle. not cliche, i think it's real. this was deeply personal. there's no question it was deeply personal. there's no president poignantly not invited to an event like this. yes, this environment was created and donald trump might be perpetuating it, but i think this is very trump specific. larger words and concepts like unity are important but this is trump specific.

>> it was trump -- the president that bothered so many people. really, i guess we should be glad he didn't tweet a negative, but that's a lowball. >> the feud began with comments by trump, but became something larger. there was an id logical component to it here. talking john mccain's ideas, when i looked at the ceremony, i saw john mccain designing to rebuttal president trump's inaugural address from a year and a half. we went from american carnage to the american idea of promise. we went from a negative speech to a positive speech. everything is fine. america doesn't need to be made great again. the truth is john mccain's america, the america that was represented at the national cathedral yesterday doesn't need to be made great again because it's doing fine. the contrast is with trump and who trump represents. for them, america is not doing fine. they like the negative message. >> kimmerly, there was part of

me that felt like is this scene going to be seen as the last gathering as the revolutionaries come with their pitch forks or this call to arms where, whoa, whoa, whoa, we are going stabilize america? >> i think it depends on who you ask. for some people, it will be both. i think it's important to remember, as much as we are talking bipartisanism, a bygone era, remember, the fight between john mccain and barack obama were tough. they are on opposite side of issues. as soon as policy came out of the white house, our inbox was filled with john mccain's office escorting what he did. yesterday, when he stood up there to speak, he was listeded in program as friend. friend first, president of the united states after. they had respect.

there was partisanism and tough battles, but not the pettiness. that's what people were addressing. >> one moment that stood out for me, barack obama talked privately in the white house from time-to-time. no one advertiseed that. >> that is the first i have heard that. >> but i believe it. >> what was interesting is he ended saying we never doubted we were on the same team. he said it twice. when i hear team, i think that actually gives loyalty to america. when i hear team, i think patriotism. we both never doubted they were trying to move the country forward. to me, it was very, very poignant. >> now we have a country not on the same team. two americas not on the same team and you have to choose a side. you are on this team or that. >> if you are not on the right side of the team, you are unpatriotic. >> we are fighting over who gets to define patriotism.

we have having a fight over patriotism. >> one of the eulogies that struck me was henry kissingers. mccain brought in ideas that aren't normally part of the discussion in washington. courage, honor and character. these are all value that is were important to john mccain's approach to politics and one reason he was able to create relationships across the aisle. these are values that, i think, are diminished and come from john mccain's experience in the u.s. military. >> this week, besides being about john mccain, there were days, i want to put up the president's thursday tweet storm, the one where you are like, is this just more of the same from him or something big. literally, a rat a tat tat, a tweet gun issued. rigged russia witch hunt. lester holt got caught fudging my tape on russia.

is there part of me saying something is new. the walls are always closing in or trump. what is it? >> about keeping that energy up all the time of people who are on his team to say never, ever take your eye off the ball. the second you do, they are going to come and get us. you have to keep this energy as part of it. i do think that this is with the remarkable piece of this entire campaign is. you have senator sullivan saying, remember the economy is doing great. everybody is happy. we should be doing well this election season. there's not one tweet in there about how great the economy is doing. >> he does not know how to campaign on the economy. i'm going to pause this conversation here. when we come back, the man who won the democratic nomination to be florida governor. be florida governor. he sets up a battle with an be florida governor. he sets up a battle with an just another day on the farm. or is it? this farmer's morning starts in outer space.

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welcome back. we saw another huge upset in a democratic primary. this state in florida. tallahassee mayor andrew gillum is unapologetic and against a trump supporter, ron desantis. it's base against base. we'll help determine whether it is safe for the two parties to abandon the middle and fire up the basis. on day one of the campaign, desantis said this -- >> he is an articular spokesman for the far left views and charismatic. the last thing we need to do is monkey this up with huge tax

increases and bankrupting the state. >> desantis and the team say it didn't have connotations. they no longer use whistle calls, they are useing full blow horns. joining me is andrew gillum. we asked congressman desantis to appear, but he declined. mayor gillum, welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you so much. i just want to quickly say, yesterday's display of true patriotism was something to behold in today's america. it was inspiring. all the speeches moved me personally. >> thank you for sharing that. let me start with the start of this campaign. you had that back and forth with your opponent. a neonazi group had things to

say. i think they are trying to get free publicity. are you shocked how quickly republicans shot that down and how they don't want to make race an issue in this campaign? >> what is important is mr. desantis and the president try to go high on this thing. we cannot afford to weaponize race and to go to the bottom of the barrel here. honestly, people are going take their queues from what their leadership says. in this case, ron desantis is the leader. therefore, he's got to be very, very careful about how he addresses these kinds of issues. i'm pleased to see them. it's also important that ron desantis take control and ownership of his rhetoric and words. we know that given the highly sensitive nature we have found ourselves, people take their

queues and act out in ways that go beyond what is appropriate in today's environment. >> you do not think congressman desantis is a racist, do you? >> i have not called him a racist. >> i know you haven't. >> i said his rhetoric, in my opinion, has to be toned down. i will call him is someone who has worked to undermine the health care system. someone who decided to join with donald trump to give more and more money away to the largest corporations. i'm happy to debate him on the merritts of public policy. i am not going to get into the gutter and name call. it's not what florida voters are interested in and why i ran for governor. i'm here to talk about the issues of our state. >> you ran as a democrat. you are for medicare for all. you talked of getting rid of i.c.e. and things there. i'm curious, one of the things you were supported by two

billionaires who came in and helped your campaign and largely, your campaign early on was funded by them. how do you square, sort of a populous, progressive campaign that wants to get big money out of politics, dark money out of politics, yet it's billionaires that prop up your campaign? >> well, i'll tell you, i'm deeply appreciative of both men, whom i have known for some time. the truth is, our campaign was propped up by small contributions including my mother. in the first two days of this election, our campaign has been void, raiseing over $2 million by every day folks, not big contributions, but every day folks sowing a seed into it. that is what is going to help us win on november 6. the every day folks deciding to

sow a seed in the race. >> the democratic governor's association made a $1 million investment. it sounds like a lot of money, but it's the state of florida. i think there's 17,000 media markets by last count, i'm exaggerating slightly. some say there was a zero missing there. do you think they are showing you enough support? >> well, i will tell you, chuck, i have every expectation they are going to come into this race strong. one, you know this being a home boy yourself, the implications here in florida are so great, not just in this race for governor and the cabinet, but the united states senate. i think the pairing of bill nelson and myself and the other members of the cabinet, not to mention the legislative races are critical for 2020 implications. i expect they are going to come in and have our back. the truth is, we are not going to wait or rely on that. we need every day people to sow

a seed in this race. we are trying to run a campaign similar to the primary, through the strength and support of every day folks willing to sow a seed in this campaign. >> you have been propelled a bit on the national stage, "the new york times" dives deeper into the fbi investigation that has been taking place in the city of tallahassee. i have read the story completely. you said the fbi told you you are not a focus of the investigation. i have a few questions. first is, when did you find out it was a sting operation? >> well, this came to light for me, i assume sometime last year when i was first contacted by two agents that wanted to talk to me. i spoke to them for 20 minutes. in that meeting, they told me i was not a target of their investigation and asked me questions, specifically, about one of my or someone else. what we have tried and i think it's important to point this

out, the city of tallahassee is under investigation. we had worked to be as cooperative as we can. anyone who has done anything wrong ought to be held accountable. contrast that to desantis and trump. they worked to undermine the work of this agency. the president going so far to suggest a deep state. what we said is we want this thing resolved. anyone doing anything wrong should be held accountable. that's how you handle these things, not standing in the way. >> there's perception and reality. have you changed your behavior given this experience you have gone through? >> well, i will tell you, i am obviously more circumspect about everything. part of being elected at the age of 23 and not really having to be, you know, overly cautious or distrustful at the local level. i think i was a bit naive that everybody that comes into my space has good intentions.

i know that i would have changed any interactions, but it made me more skrut -- scutinous. a lot of people that have good intentions for me, my family and my community. "the new york times" says you were going to provide receipts having to do with a couple trips having to do with lobbyists. they haven't been provided. should we expect that soon? >> you should. my commitment is to make every receipt available. i have nothing to hide. i have one interview left with the ethics board this week. following that, we will make them available. i wanted the process to work the way it was intended to. >> thank you sir. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me.

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welcome back. data end load time. labor day marks the kick off on the general election season. a taking moment where we ask, what did we learn? one, people are interested. take for instance, the overall turnout for the big primaries in arizona and florida. turnout was up 146,000 in arizona and over 1 million additional voters in florida. it's part of a trend on both sides, but especially among the democrats. the primary season has given us other indications of where enthusiasm lies. democrats out raised republicans in house and senate. democrats have more candidates for the house right now. there are only four house districts in the country where

there is no democratic candidate running. nearly 40, 4-0, where there's no republican candidate running either. we have noted how diverse this pool has become. this is the year of the woman. the number of women nominees set records. 21 for senate. 226 for the house. by the way, our friend david wasserman notes that in house district that is don't have incumbents, democrats nomominat women in 50% of the races. republicans in 18% of the cases. what does this mean for november? there's a lot of talk if we win. it's too early to make the prediction. the numbers show the battlefield is heavily tilted toward the democrats, particularly in the house. only five democratic held seats a comp pettive. 65 are rated the same. these are places the incumbent

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back now with end game or should we say big game? the nfl begins latder this week. nothing, not even the nfl avoids politics. 43% of voters believe kneeling is an appropriate way to approach racial inequality. 54% say it is not appropriate. 72% of democrats say kneeling is appropriate versus 23% who say

it isn't. for republicans, the numbers are reversed. there is a racial divide by a margin of 70-28 african-american. whites say no by a 20-point margin, 58-38. the president must have sports on his mind this morning because he tweeted tiger woods showed class. the so-called left is angry at him. the center and left tiger, kanye and other greats. obviously, you have the bookmark, the issue of the anthem, trump, racial politics. >> they should have given him to the buffalo bills in 2014 to avoid all of this. president trump can't get into the club. donald trump is a real knack or discovering culture wars. the nfl, even before colin

kaepernick is something he thought was a metaphor for the softness of america. he thought there were too many rules. he saw the heartland of football in pennsylvania and alabama and ohio very much mimicked his own heartland, his own base of support. in some ways, football and donald trump became the two big spectacles of american life. it was inevitable they would merge. >> this culture, it's interesting with football, almost as if the president sided with them. it is a part of his base. if you look at his base of voters, they are, sort of the base, the heart and soul of, if you went to any college football game in america, the strength. >> the people are losing interest in the nfl as the protests over the flag and anthem take place. a few things struck me. first, trump is on the majority

side. second, you mention the polarization. i's important because of the discussions of populism, they tend to see it through an economic lens. there's also a alltural lens that has to do with the american patriotism and the american story. trump is effective in seizing on the symbols, polarizing them. >> also easy when the cultural issue is what white america is comfortable with. as long as white america is comfortable, you are going to be on the majority side of it. that's where he's been able to be successful. what hasn't gotten discussed as much, this is where the discussion really needs to go, it's always about trump and kneeling and what it means. the core issue is no matter how much wealth, prestige, influence you have, if you are black in america, the racism and race is going to be the most important factor in your life. >> i agree.

economic anxiety is a euphemism for nationalism. nationalism has racial and cultural undertones. >> i want to go to the other aspect of this. it's what the president was getting at with tiger woods. there is now, i think nfl players, especially african-american players, on one hand, the community expects them, hey, don't back down. at the same time, pressure the other way. more and more athletes encouraged to speak up. he thinks that will be good for him, too. >> he thinks the stronger this war is, the harder he sees himself as battling this cultural and racial war, the better it is for him politically. this isn't just about the idea of the flag. that's another euphemism for trying to take sides of purely a political calculation. i take what mark said about not

being able to be a member of the club. this is a political calculation he thinks is going to benefit him at the end. this is nothing new. i don't think you are going to see the players backing down. this is nothing new. black athletes have been taking strong political stances and putting themselves at the forefront of the issue for decades. >> that has to be the last word. thank you all. thank you for watching. we will be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." we are going to leave you with the final moments of john mccain's funeral yesterday, the singing of "danny boy." ♪

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