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. this sunday all about that base. president trump campaigning for republicans. firing up his most loyal supporters. >> i'd heard that he body slammed a reporter. >> and making his closing argument. >> this will be the election of kavanaugh, the care -- caravan. >> while democrats focus on health care. >> pre-existing conditions. >> and portray republicans as out of the mainstream. >> i drew an opponent who was
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way, way over there. >> two weeks ago until the midterms. joining me this morning, democratic minority whip senator dick durbin of illinois and the vice chairman of the republican senate campaign committee, tom tillis of north carolina. plus is the republican post kavanaugh surge real or are we just seeing a natural closing of the midterms? we have a brand new nbc news "wall street journal" poll out this morning with some unusual results that should make both parties a little nervous. and the man whose expletive filled interview got him fired from the white house. former communications director anthony scaramucci joins moo oh what it's like to work with president trump. joining for me insight and analysis are katr tur, eugene robinson, peggy noonan and david brody, chief political analyst for cbn news. welcome to sunday.
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it's "meet the press". good sunday morning and welcome to the choose your own adventure midterm laek election. is there a democratic wave coming? as a surge of post kavanaugh enthusiasm turned back the democrats momentum, there's data to support that. or could this be a typical midterm with democrats making modest gains? there's data to support that too. we have plenty of new data this morning. here what "the wall street journal" poll shows with over two weeks ago to the mid tomorrows. among registered voters, democrats hold a seven point lead. that's down from the 12 point lead the democrats held just a month ago pre-kavanaugh. wait, there's more. among likely voters the democrats lead grows to nine,
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50-5 50-41. it's the first time ever in our polling that our likely voter model shows a better number for the democrat than the registered voter number. normally in midterms republicans have the likely voter advantage. what's different this year? it's the heightened and enthusiasm for democrats among mi l millennials and latino women. president trump has his best numbers yet. among registered voters 47% approve of his performance while 49% disapprove. that's stasubstantially better n last month. there are a lot of questions leading up to this year's midterms. but here's what we do know. there's a higher interest in the selection than any midterm we've ever measured. turnouts can be through the roof. the divide between men and women is growing with democratic
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string of unprecedented support among women. it will be the story of the next 16 days. >> democrats produce mobs. republicans produce jobs. >> president trump's closing argument is all about the base. >> democrats want to throw your borders wide open to deadly drugs and ruthless gangs. >> and republican candidates are sounding more and more like mr. trump repeating dire warnings on immigration. >> remember it's going to be an election of the caravan. >> it's coming from central america. >> any guy that can do a body slam, he's my candidate. >> i'm going to stomp all over your face with golf spike. >> candidates are even recycling mr. trump's insults. >> he's a low-energy person.
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>> with a fight for control of the senate playing out in states the president won, this base first strategy banks on mr. trump's ability to bring out rural voter wrs s where he is popular. but his rhetoric is unlikely to help in suburban districts. in two straight polls women favored democratic control of congress by a whopping 25 points. >> i think we're going to hell in a hand basket. i just can't believe some of the anticks that go on with the president of the united states. >> 70 of the 75 house seats rates as competitive are held by republicans, including 25 that hillary clinton won in 2016. democrats need to flip just 23 of those 75 to win back the house. but the democratic enthusiasm advantage has narrowed after the kavanaugh fight. and the question is whether those fundamentals will be
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enough to produce not just a takeover, but a wave. >> pre-existing conditions. >> meanwhile, democrats are avoiding a broad national message remaining laser focused on a single issue. >> protections for pre-existing conditions. >> protections for pre-existing conditions. >> for pre-existing conditions. >> pre-existing conditions. >> pre-existing health conditions. >> with president obama largely absent and nancy pelosi unpopular with independence, states are running away from the national party. >> are you a democrat? >> i am. >> proud democrat? >> my gosh, it's hard to say pru proud. i'm not sure that people are proud of parties anymore. >> changing players make sense. i think we ought to change the player. >> joining me is dick durbin. senator durbin, welcome back to
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"met t "meet the press". >> that last voice in there was the former tennessee governor who is running for the senate seat in tennessee calling for a, quote, change of players when it comes to the democratic leadership. you're a member of this democratic leadership. when you hear that, is there going to be a change of players, yourself saerenator schumer, na pelosi or make your case for why it isn't necessary. >> that's tomorrow's newspaper. today is about an election on november 6. we're focusing on the issues that make a difference. i know you probably had the p pre-existing phrase in there a dozen times and that's because the american people put that as the highest priority. thar they want protection for their families. they know the republicans have voted to take away that protect and filed lawsuits to end it. that's why it's such an important issue over and over again. >> you heard kirsten -- are
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there voters that you need to win over who don't like the democratic party but you're having to basically make the case that you may not like us but don't you like the other side less? >> it gets down to this. there are more and more independent voters and i think kirsten is correct in making that assertion. the bottom line is we are doing well with the independent voters. take a look at what mitch mcconnell gave us this last week. an insight into where the republicans are going if they continue to control congress. in order to deal with the deficits they created, with a tax bill for the wealthy people and special interest, they are going to cut social security, medicare, and medicaid. those are fighting words for a lot of people, not just democrats, but independents as well. pre-existing conditions, making sure the social security and medicare and medicaid are strong for years to come, that's a good
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basis to get a lot of people elected to congress. >> i want to play for you an ad that jackie rosen, the democratic nominee running in nevada, it's interesting in the message she's trying to send to nevada voters which may surprise some viewers. take a listen. >> she wrote legislation to proo improve veterans health care and president trump sign today into law. >> here's a democratic senate candidate talking about legislation she got signed by president trump and essentially trying to distance herself from house democratic leader nancy pelosi. what does that say about the power of the anti-trump message. >> i can tell you jackie roesen obviously knows the pulse of nevada and she has come forward with a message that plays across the united states. agree with the president when he's right. be prepared to fight him if
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necessary when he's wrong. i'm working with the administration to disclose the cost of prescription drugs on the ads they put on television. secretary azar of the trump administration whom i did not vote for in the cabinet is working with me. i'd be glad to tell the people of illinois and sbthat's an imp issue. when they get down to pre-existing conditions and making sure that this president has someone in congress who will keep an eye on him when he goes to an extreme position. >> one of the other messages was jackie rosen trying to distance herself from the nancy pelosi attacks. i hear this from people who definite pelosi and say if democrats ran the amount of ads that republicans ran against pelosi, if they ran those same number of ads against mitch mcconnell, he'd be a pariah too. why don't you go after republican leaders the way republicans go after democratic leaders? >> i don't think it's a message
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that really carries the day. voters are listening for both political parties to say something other than a political squabble under way in way. they're looking for us to address the issues that affect them there & futurand their fut of prescription drugs, making sure health insurance is available and affordable. the republicans can't win on those, so they get personal. >> i've talked to a lot of democratic activists this week in nevada and arizona. a lot of democratic strategists and a lot of them complained off the record about how senate democrats handled the kavanaugh situation. they're upset because it impacted those races. both races have changed po post-kavanaugh. what would you do differently? >> that's a good question but a tough one to answer. we were dealt cards we never
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anticipated. the fact that there will be a letter coming forward from dr. ford which eventually became public which led to a hearing which we had not even planned, all of those things were unforeseen. this was not some strategy that was laid out. it unfolded this way. we did the best we could under those circumstances. i still believe that we did the right thing in voting against brett kavanaugh for the supreme court. >> i want to move to the issue of the now confirmed dead journalist jamal khashoggi. the saudi government after 17 days now confirming that yes, he died at the hands of some saudi intelligence agents. i've got to put up the changing story. it's amazing. it took them ten days they were saying things like we're investigating, they're looking, he left the consulate. that was one of their first explanations, then last week they started working on a cover story. president trump suggested rogue killers were to blame. then finally they claim it was
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essentially an accidental death as a result of some sort of brawl. is there any part of this story that you accept as credible from the saudi arabian government? >> no. as a matter of fact, the only person on earth outside of the saudi kingdom is president trump. here's what we ought to do. we ought to formally expel the saudi ambassador until there is a completion of the third party investigation into the kidnap, murder and god knows who followed. unless the saudi kingdom understands that civilized countries around the world are going to reject this conduct and make sure they pay a price for it, they'll continue doing it. they have a journalist who is currently in prison for criticizing the saudi regime. there's another man who is also facing imprisonment and torture if necessary by them unless he changes his criticism of the regime. if we want them to stop this and make it clear we don't accept
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it, we need to be decisive. expel that journalist. stop our assistance to their war in yemen. let them know they're going to pay a price. >> do you believe the crown prince was ordered this killing? senator corker this morning says he believes that the crown prince himself ordered this. >> i believe it. five of his top personal body guards are among those currently accused. his personal body guards. one of them has said publicly a year ago i don't move without an order from the executive. the crown prince has his fingerprints all over this and the fact that he is heading up the investigation makes it totally incredible. >> senator, i appreciate your time and for coming on and sharing your views. much appreciated. >> thanks, chuck. >> joining me is the vice chair, tom tillis of north carolina. welcome back to "meet the press
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". >> good morning. >> let me start with the killing of mr. khashoggi. you may not have seen but at least heard the timeline it took the saudis 17 days. same question i had for senator durb durbin. is there any part of the explanation that you find credible? >> no, not at this point. i agree with everything dick durbin just said. we've got to get to the bottom of it. saudi arabia, you do not do something of this magnitude without having clearance from the top. we need to find out who that is and hold them accountable. >> are you as convinced as senato senators corker and durbin that the crown prince himself ordered this killing? >> it looks like it based on the people who were involved in the actual act. that's why we need help from the turkish officials and then there has to be a consequence. >> what does a consequence look like and what is the goal of the consequence? to get the saudis -- the king to name a new crown prince? what would be the goal of the punishment? >> well, i think it is to hold
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the people accountable who committed this horrible act and if it is the crown prince, then i think that is something that has to be explored. i don't believe you can have someone who would authorize this sort of an act be in a position of power with a nation that's very important to us, but we have to have limits as to how far we would go to work with them in a very difficult complex part of the world. i think we have to do the investigation with the intelligence community, with the turni turkish officials outside of the crown prince. >> are you at all concerned that the president seems to be maybe more patient than necessary with the saudi government? >> well, i think that all you're seeing is the public response. i know that the state department, the intelligence community, and a number of other people are taking this seriously. we've got a lot of resources focused on it. i think the president will take the appropriate action when all the facts are in. >> can you imagine us having a relationship with the saudi government that's positive, that
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the crown prince is still there? >> no, i don't think so. again, if the facts lead to what we all suspect they will, i think it will be very problematic for our relationship going forward. >> let me move to the midterms. the president says these midterms are about the following. kavanaugh, the caravan, law and order and common sense. is that the best summation that you would advise republican candidates to give around the country? >> i think those are factors, but i believe historic job creation, historically low unemployment among latinos and african-american, the economic performance, the work we've done to get nato to contribute to our mutual defense, there are a lot of things that resonate with the voters. i look at the numbers you gave earlier and how they're playing in starts we're targeting. we're looking good in a number of other states. i expect to add to the number in the senate.
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>> i want to show you a column that a conservative wrote in bloomberg earlier this week. at the end of the 2017, he was talking about the republican agenda, how speaker paul ryan was pushing republicans to take up welfare reform. the trump administration talked up an infrastructure bill. the party compromised by not making a concerted effort on either but republicans are asking for voters to augment that marmjority now and they stl have no agenda. what would you say is the case for reelecting a republican mar majority in the senate? >> i think you go back to the age old requesty question in el. do you feel better about your circumstances than you did two years ago and the answer is yes. i think most voters vote their pocketbook. i do believe the kavanaugh matter ended up increasing intensity on our side, but only slightly. we typically have greater intensity going into the off year elections, but i think this is about economic security, economic growth.
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those are promises that we've made and we've fulfilled. it's difficult to get things done. the jobs, the economies, those sorts of things matter to the voters and i think they're going to put nus in a great position n the senate. >> one issue you didn't mention that senator durbin mentioned nonstop was health care and the issue of pre-existing conditions. in 2014, you ran, i covered your race down there. you ran as repeal and replace obamacare republican. why aren't we hearing that this time? is it because of the popularity of the pre-existing condition clause? >> for one thing it's a false narrative to say that we want to remove pre-existing conditions. i filed a bill to try, in the event that a lawsuit throws out the affordable care act, we have to have a place for people with pre-existing conditions to land. we also have to allow young adults under the age of 26 to be on their health care plan.
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it is a false narrative to say that that republicans want to kill that. >> but in fairness you've had four years to come up with an alternative and two years with full republican control of washington. >> and i know you know how d.c. works probably better than i do. you've got to get 60 votes to make that happen. we did through reconciliation get rid of the individual mandate and take some of the underpinnings of the affordable care act out. we've got to replace it in the same way we've got to make sure that social security and medicare can be paid for and medicaid over time. what the democrats are not mentioning are widely publicized reports that say if we stay on the current tragedy we're going to have a crisis in funding in those programs. no one wants to take away medicare or social security or medicaid from people who need it. but we have to have a sustainable solution and we need 60 votes to get that done. >> math is a funny thing here in washington. nobody seems to want to ever cite it. we have a record breaking
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deficit, a record breaking debt every day when you watch the debt clock, but a record breaking deficit that may surpass a trillion dollars annually, never mind obviously the multiples of that in the debt. the president yesterday is talking about a new tax cut. you're talking about reforming social security and medicare. how are you going to pay for this tax cut the president is apparently proposing? >> well, we've got to make sure it's at least supported by facts around die nynamic growth. it has to pay for itself. i voted against the spending bill because it was too much money being spent. and so we've got to get the american people to recognize that we have a powder keg of dynamite and a debt that's continuing to grow. we're reaching a point where our debt service could exceed our contribution, our investment in the military. we've got to make sure the american people understand we've got to balance our books, we've
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got to be on a budget like the american people. >> you just said you wanted any new tax cut to pay for itself. this current tax cut is not paying for itself. the debt is increasing, not decreasing. >> if you look at the scoring for economic growth, i think there is a way to rationalize that this tax cut will pay for itself through sustained economic growth. if we don't make the numbers it won't. but if we do and we're already seeing it, then i do believe we create the net incremental revenue. it's not going to be muff to come close to retiring our $21 trillion in debt. that's where we'll have to look at tough choices so we can balance our books. >> tom tillis, republican from north carolina, i'll leave it there. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. when we come back, more on the midterm elections. which is stronger in the republicans or the sustains democratic anger at president
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welcome back to the panelists. eugene robinson, peggy noonan, my friend katy tur and david brody. welcome all. so trying to figure out what this poll is showing us today in our new nbc "wall street journal" poll. let put this sort of -- put it a
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little bit of historical context here. presidential job approval connected to seats lost in the first midterm, we go back, here's president trump sitting at 47%. that seems to be an improvement for him. what would 47% job rating mean in the past when it comes to a midterm result? president obama had exactly that. a 47% job approval rating in 2010. his party lost 63 seats. bill clinton in 1994 in this same period of time in october had a 48% approval rating and lost 54 seats. peggy, should republicans feel better or worse this morning when they look at the nbc news "wall street journal" poll? >> i think they should feel as confused as everybody else. the good news for republicans is only six months ago we were talking about a blue wave that we knew was coming and who is going to be very significant. we're not quite talking that way anymore. it looks kind of more interesting and complicated state by state.
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the continuing mystery that is not a mystery is how a president and an administration can have what is essentially peace and prosperity or economic growth and no new wars and still be struggling to get to 50% which in the approval polls, which if you can't, is a drag on all of our people. it just is the central fact i think of the coming election. >> that's if you accept standard political gravity and i don't think you can do that with donald trump. i do think there is an argument to be made for people telling po pollsters, but believes another thing and people should be weary of this, and i hate to be debbie downer for democrats or for anyone or for the standard messaging, i should say, but this feels a lot like 2016. it feels a lot like how everyone was talking in 2016. the democrats going to win, it's going to be a landslide, donald
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trump is going to pull down republicans, there's no way they'll win. when you go out and talk to people on the road, they talk about health care a lot, but they're not necessarily talking about, when you talk to a variety of people, how much they hate donald trump. >> let me bring up amy walter. you sort of channelled her column that i wanted to use to get you guys talking. she noted the difference between or the similarities to 2016 and she writes the clinton campaign led with a message that emphasized her stability and his, meaning trump's, lack of judgment and desscency. this year they're leading to tweets and leading to the capable tv panels. let me put up the issue numbers. these are the gaps on the generic ballot among those who say the economy is number one. republicans have a 28 point advantage. among those that say immigration is their top issue, they have a 19% advantage. those on the republican side. look at this advantage for democrats among those who care
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about health care which is with the economy one of the top two issues and it's a 47% advantage. >> and that's what -- that's why democrats are going to keep talking about health care and pre-existing conditions. you're going to hear that phrase until it's ringing in your ears. there still could be a blue wave or might not be any wave at all. the only thing that feels like 2016 is the squishiness and the big uncertainty for democrats to do really, really well, democratic voters have to do something they don't usually do which is vote in midterms and so people who don't usually vote in midterms have to come out. for republicans to hold on, they actually have to do the same thing, even though republicans do vote in midterms. the trump base is not made of the hard core base. it's not the regular voters. he brought out people who don't often or usually vote, regularly
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vote. >> that trump base has been fired with donald trump, and i will say this, the democrats had the anti-trump venom going. they had the super soaker, if you will. the problem is now republicans have their own super soak ner brett kavanaugh. i will just say you mentioned 2010 and 1994. what was motivating in those elections? the tea party in 2010, both democrats suffered under it. this time around you don't have
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that full on hate because you have it on both sides. i think that's a big difference. >> one specific group to watch, if you remember the special election in alabama, black women voted in huge numbers and we -- people i know down there. before that election i heard stuff i hadn't heard before in terms of organizing activity, enthusiasm for elections. i would watch that, particularly throughout the south. in a state like north carolina, south carolina, in georgia especially where there's a big governor's election, i would watch that group. >> peggy, i want to point out one other thing. one of the missing pieces of analysis in 2016 that we didn't surface in time that i think would have helped us understand the election better, which was where people were leaning that didn't like both clinton and trump and he won those both voters. these are people that don't like either political party now. in september the split between who did they want to be in
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control of congress, people were negative on both parties was advantage democrats. in october, among those that are negative on both, it is suddenly an open break here towards the democrats, 59-17. it was narrow in september. october came. the ones that were negative on both broke heavily towards donald trump. what does that tell you? >> now it's breaking heavily towards the democrats in general, towards that kind of thing. i don't know exactly what it means. my sense in this campaign in a way to bop off something you said is that there are a lot of different local issues coming up that have something to do with the overall trend. i'm also wondering if issues like dick durbin mentioned, he started saying those republicans are going to cut your social security, they're going to cut your medicare, cut your
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medicaid. that's something that's going to be coming up. and many people who had supported donald trump were very don't touch my social security, medicare and medicaid. so maybe a little bit of that is going on. >> i've had anecdotal from some republicans who say they're nervous that some trump voters may vote democratic because they trust donald trump. that's who they trust. punish the republicans. >> they don't really like the republican party or republican gop. >> but that's why donald trump is going out on the campaign trail and making it all about himself. i am at the top of the ticket even though i'm not. if you don't vote for republicans, you're not voting for me. he's making it about trump. >> i have to pause it here. we're going to pick it up. when we come back, the revolving door in the trump west wing keeps revolving. white house counsel don mcgahn became the latest person to go through the door and one man who walked through that door is here to tell us about what it's like
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and its fifth communications director. the person with me most note worthy and shortest stint in the west wing is one of those five, anthony scaramucci, who led the white house media shop for 11 days. he's out with a new book about his time in president trump's orbit, particularly before he became president. "trump, the blue car president". welcome to "meet the press". >> happy sunday. >> the timing of your book coming out comes as we got reports of a screaming match between a former boss of yours, john kelly, current chief of staff, the national security adviser john bol ton ovton over issue of immigration. according to our sources, it was over comments the national security adviser made to the secretary of homeland security. john kelly apparently walked out furious. there was rumors of potential resignations. how pham wfamiliar was that sce
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you? >> was there any profanity? >> probable some profanity. >> really, it's not that familiar to me. my incident was on a phone line with a report where i shouldn't have trusted and so that's my fault and i totally own that. but i think the more relevant thing is, you know, people are playing like the nfl, verbal contact. people are playing hard for the president. i don't know what happened in that specific incident, but i know that the west wing and the way the president set up the west wing, it's tough if there for people. >> you were pretty tough on general kelly in your book. the general's style would be in direct conflict with the way mr. trump conducted business. he doesn't work in a precise way. never has, never will. it's been over a year since he became chief of staff but my scouting report became quite accurate. >> i think that's pretty self-evident. even this past week, i applaud
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the general's service to the country. obviously 40 years in the u.s. marine corp. this is a very different job. this is a civilian based job and i think he's tried to apply military-like management style to a group of civilians. that doesn't necessarily work. and by the way, the president has a free wheeling style very different from john kelly. >> you seem pretty upset at him. >> he didn't need to fire me the way he fired me, and i had this conversation with the president. >> he could have done it in a different manner? >> totally. i raised a tremendous amount of money and did countless hours in the campaign and even after the president was inaugurate rated. he was trying to make a spectacle out of it and he got what he wanted. i write about in the book what i
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thought was an honest assessment of him. >> should the president have the chief of staff given the way he likes to work? >> i think he needs a chief of staff but he needs one that likes him and gets his personality. >> you don't think john kelly like the president? >> do you? >> i don't know him personally. >> i travel around the question and i ask people that retor rhel question. it doesn't come across like he does. the bob woodward, he seems like an accurate journalist. i don't like john kelly calling the president the things he's called him. for me i have no problem standing up for myself or telling you what i think about john kelly or the situation with the president. having said, that i applaud the guy's service, but it's not just me, chuck. he hurt the morale inside the place. he's hurt the president. and he has hissy fits. he left last week after the report that he had with ambassador bolton. that's his personality.
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the good news is i'm being vindicated by that because he's demonstrating his personal the way he really is. >> you've interacted with president trump. as candidate trump you weren't quite on board at first with the idea of him being president. you had other candidates you were interested in. you were formerly with scott walker. what finally convinced you that donald trump had what it took? >> i met with the president the day after "the apprentice" f finale. we were joking about him being president and i didn't believe him. when i explained my loyalties were to scott walker and jeb bush, he then said after i clean their clocks, will you come work for me and i said absolutely. so after the south carolina primary i went to the president's office with senator scott brown, who was a friend of mine, we went occupy there together and we had a great conversation and we began
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building the block for the financing operation. then when he brought in steve mnuchin, things really started to kick in. >> watching a bunch of democrats thinking about trying to run against president trump in 2020, we've seen different potential candidates trying to go after him in different ways, michael avenatti is someone who i think people have been trying to put the two of you together for some sort of talk show, he's tried to go at him directly. elizabeth warren responded to some of the criticism, the crazy nickname stuff more formally. what is the best way to go after president trump? what advice would you give a democrat and how do you go after his insults? >> as you know, i really care for the president and i'm a big supporter, so i don't like giving them advice. i think they go into the trump insect twitter like, so the minute he shoots at them they cannot help themselves and they get vaporized. senator warren should read my
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book so she can understand how the president -- you have to think of what he did. he hijacked the republican party to get the nomination and hijacked the base of the other party and moved it over to the republican party and i try to write about that. i grew up in a blue collar neighborhood with a blue collar family and i've seen the whole band width. my recommendation to people is don't engage him in that area because you're going to lose. he's just way more talented than you in that area. >> you said you and your team are still going to go to the saudi arabia finance conference. >> yeah. >> is that still your financial answer? >> yeah. listen, skybridge is not a political organization. >> why give any american credibility to them right now? >> i'm not trying to give them credibility. i have a ton of business in saudi arabia unrellated to the government. i'm a pretty big delegate or and i let those guys make the
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decision on whether or not to go. he's visiting with people not related to the government. those were already scheduled. he suggested to me to allow him to go. i'm a big delegate or. >> so you're comfortable with this still? >> i'm comfortable with him going. i'm not comfortable with what happened. i'm not kofcomfortable with that all. >> the book, congratulations. good luck on the tour. >> thank you. when we come back, who do you hold responsible for dividing america? and what can we do to fix it? >> bipartisan, stop being simply >> bipartisan, stop being simply an "r" or "d" and look >> bipartisan, stop being simply an "r" or "d" and look most kids today will have jobs that don't exist yet. the engine management systems coordinate with autonomous vehicles. financial data, so now we can predict the future. our new flexible propeller design. by collaborating with public schools on a program called p-tech,
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latest poll. americans gree americans agree on at least one thing. the bad news, they agree on how divided we are. 80% think the country is divided. somehow there are 19% that claim we're united. you can see the divisions across all facet of american life. democrats and republicans, clinton voter, trump voters, folks who live in urban, suburban and rural areas. in all of these groups, at least 70% think the country is mainly or totally divided. if we're talking about political divisions, 90% see this as a serious problem facing this country. only 10% think it is not a serious problem. but where there is disagreement, it's about who's to blame for this division. among those who strongly approve of president trump, they place most of the blame for the country's divisions not surprisingly on the democratic party and liberals. they also lay blame at barack obama, godlessness and even a few people cite president trump.
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back now with end game. a fitting i think code to the
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devise segment i just had, one thing we do agree on is that we are so divided. we've had a couple of mob scenes where leaders of the democrats and of the republicans were both publicly harassed. here is a scene with house democratic leader nancy pelosi down in miami earlier this week. >> you don't belong here you [ bleep ]. get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> dade county republican party leader apologized. tmz posted this video from friday night where he is getting harassed. take a listen. >> why don't you get out of here. why don't you leave the entire
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country. >>. >> peggy, each party, and i've watched them, and it really disgusts me, they try to weaponize these incidents on the other size saying look at what an angry mob is saying on the left or these angry people on the left. we have people on the left and right. this isn't made up. it's ugly. it's bad. they need to accept that. >> somebody's got to calm it down. we've got two weeks to go. people are on edge. they're fighting. the fact that we live in the media world that we live in means everything's taped, so everybody can see it and everybody can get a little bit madder. but i think somebody has to come forward. maybe a group of people. and say you know what, everybody? calm down. this is a great democracy. we can work this out. >> normally that would be president of the united states, but he's bragging about body m slamming. >> he could be one of many
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voice. >> the president does it, obviously, and it works with his base. look on the other side, eric holder, kick them. nancy pelosi, collateral damage. >> but where does it start? you have to acknowledge that the heating up of the rhetoric and the anger and the punch them in the face and the body slam them, that started when donald trump started campaigning and suddenly he moved the conversation around. >> this has been going on for a long time. >> we're 14 days away from an election. this will calm down. it will calm down after the election. >> i'm not sure it will. >> we're coming to a really important election and our constitution guarantees people the right to speak, to protest, and to tell our officials what they think. >> it is encouraged in every facet. when you get on social media, all you see is this person is evil, that person is the devil,
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thank you so much for hitting back at that person. you see it in every aspect of the discussion on social media. even when we do interviews, and you and i have talked about this, either side of the political spectrum, you'll have a story coming out saying chuck todd slams down or katy tur rips apart. it's the way we talk about things. >> the voter is responsible for this. how they get their information. they go do cocoons on both sides. there is a responsibility there as well. >> can i tell you also, too many people are living just for politics. they see themselves as political beings. they go forward into the world with political anger. we are narrowing what we are. americans used to think of themselves as religious beings, people who loved a team, this and that. it's now like i'm about politics and i'm going to get in your face. it's wicked and it's not going to help. >> politicians have failed for
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so long. along comes donald trump, the great disruptor and he has channelled into this. after 30, 40 years of this, you're going to have issues of where we are today. >> 16 days. this is a really big election. everybody who has all this energy, go out and vote. vote. >> don't scream vote. right? don't harass vote. that should be our newm mantra. thank you all. you were disagreeing without being disagreeable. we can set a great example. thank you for watching. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday and if it's the week before the election, you know it's "meet the press".
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