this sunday domestic tropical storm in el paso, and another mass shooting overnight. in texas a 21-year-old man with violent hatred of hispanic immigrants opens fire with an assault rifle at a walmart in el paso on the mexican border. 20 dead in the act of domestic tomorrow. th -- tropicerrorism. >> i'm shocked. i'm scared. >> all i want to do is find my mom. >> the gunman posting an ant

immigrant tweet online. >> we believe our country should be a sanctuary to law-abiding citizens. not for criminal aliens. >> then overnight dayton, ohio nine more people gunned down. >> this is a safe part of downtown and it's a very popular destination for visitors. >> we'll get the latest on both stories from the scene. we'll talk to el paso's congresswoman, veronica escobar. we have julian castro of texas and cory booker. joining me are kasie hunt, elian that johnson, and former republican dpoempb of north carolina pat mckroi. it's sunday and this is a special edition of "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news washington. the longest running show on television history. this is a special edition of "meet the press.""

with chuck todd. welcome to a tough sunday morning for america. the plague of mass shootings in the country is nowncomehensible. twice in less than 24 hours we've seen massacrestolltwn the. first in what appears to be an act of domestic terrorism, a 21-year-old gunman walked into a walmart with a military assault rifle and opened fire on shoppers. killing at least 20. wounding more than two dozen others. >> come on. let's go. >> hands up. >> as of this morning, the death toll in el paso puts this shooting among the ten worst in american history. here is how witnesses described that>> kind of sounded likefi w coming closer together. >> i heard a lot of yelling. there was cops with guns and saying get on your knees. >> it was full of blood and the mother came around the corner

and she was shot in the chest. >> the killer who appears to be a white custody. he posted an essay online referring to hispanic invaders and praised the murder of 51 people in mosques in christ church, new zealand. we asked whether president trump's racial resentment was a political issue for republicans. we have to ask whether the harsh words are actually inspiring violence. as if it weren't enough to comprehend, we woke up to the news that at least nine more people were killed in dayton, ohio. the shooter wearing body armor and a mask was killed by police. at these two horrible incidents to the shooting last week in gilroy, california and we're looking at the one of the most deadly weeks. more americans were killed in mass shootings in the past 24 d 2018 combined.can troops were

both stories covered this morning. we're going to begin with our justice correspondent here pete williams. so, pete, let me go in recent order here. we don't know much more about dayton. this happened past midnight beyond what we were able to just report there, is that correct? >> right. about 1:00 a.m. a popular bar in dayton in a section that was a popular night spot. one person heavily body armored with a mask and an assault style rifle with a high capacity magazine opens fire. but why and who he is not clear. >> certainly it was planning something or had planned it but we don't know motive beyond that. >> the planning seems well lots gunman as well as this creed he. how are authorities investigating this now? >> several things, first of ia,

they're talking to friends and family, they searched the house where he was staying apparently the night before the shooting. it's about an eight hour drive. he lived in allen, texas, which is a suburb of dallas and drove to el paso, it appears, that day. we're looking at the timeline. this essay that was posted online on an extremist website, it appears it was -- >> same website, by the way, that the shooter of the synagogue -- the white supremacist who did that one and the christ church. all posted on this same extremist website. 8chan. >> yeah. there's a real commonality there. it appears this thing was posted 19 minutes before the first 9-1-1 call comes from the shopping center in el paso. it appe they knew it was leading to a could do. >> posting before shooting?gh the essay appears to "this attack." it seems like the person was planning an attack but didn't say where. he didn't even say el paso.

there wasn't anything they could do about that. but the essay itself says he's been thinking about this. this is the 21-year-old suspect. many in law enforcement officials say they believe he's the person who wrote this essay. he said he's been planning it for about a month. >> any awareness this was somebody on the radar already? >> no. >> i believe it was on july 23rd, christopher wrai was asked about the threat of white nationalism. he seemed to indicate there's a threat through many of the incidents they have been investigating. >> in recent years, more people have been killed by or aests made in connection with domestic terrorism than foreign terrorism. it's been a real change since 9/11. we've gone in cycles. remember after the oklahoma city bombing, domestic terrorism. now it appears that domestic terrorism is at least as big a

threat. coming back to what you said, there's a real commonality here. the internet speededp the ability by which these people inspire each other. >> pete williams, it's going to be a busy sunday for you. thank you very much. joining me now on the phone is the mayor of dayton nan whaley. our condolences to the city of dayton this morning. what more can you tell us overnight? >> caller: well, thank you, chuck, for your condolences for our community. our community had a pretty tough year. this year already and what we're most amazed by for this incident was an under a minute, the police were able to really stop the subject from -- the shooter from shooting. and i just really am amazed if they were not there, if they had not been on the site. how many --

injures and the deaths in the hundreds. he had the ak assault rifle he was using with a high capacity magazine. >> it's startling how much carnage there was, considering he was able to be stopped in less than a minute. how prepared was this gunman? >> caller: this gunman was -- had body armor on. he was carrying, you know, a .223-caliber high capacity magazine and had additional magazines, as well. he was prepared to do some serious -- in our community. and, you know, obviously, with nine fatalities in under a minute, and, you know, over 20 people injured, i'm just incredibly grateful to the police department that stopped this action. summer.for us in dayton, this we had a tornado that tore through dayton in may and now we face this mass shooting.

ye this year in our country. preventable andnenow 250 times and yet nobody does anything about it. >> one last comment for elected officials in washington. i want to give you that forum. >> caller: i'm sorry? >> one last comment for elected officials in washington. one last comment you have for them about this incident. >> caller: my question to them is, you know, how many cities have to go through this before somebody changes the law? >> again, our condolences and hang in there dayton. a wonderful city. joining me from el paso is veronica meeting at the time of this incident and all of a sudden there was a moment of frenzy a bit. law enforcement officials informing you. tell me quickly about how you learned of this incident in real time there. >> so, chuck, we were having a town hall meeting and we were in the middle of our q & a when my

staff approached me. i knew something was wrong. it felt unusual. and i was told about the active shooter, and that our law enforcement agents who were there to take care of us during the town hall and keep us safe there, they needed to rush over to the scene. and so we asked folks, we told them it was the end of the meeting that we needed everybody to calmly get home and stay home the mayor is grateful to ouke to our first responders, we're grateful to ours and the medical personnel who have been working through the night, chuck, to keep many of the victims alive. >> let me ask you this, we're learning more about the shooter in el paso. we're learning about a motive with him there. smuttily, you heard the mayor of dayton talk about their city, 250 when it comes to having one

of these massacres happen on their watch. what do you see as your responsibility going forward assen elected official in washington, d.c., how should you confront this? >> my primary responsibility right now, chuck, is to be with the community. comfort the community. be of service to theof the most compassionate, generous, kind, warm, loving communities in the country. we're standing in front of united blood services where people have been pulling up to line up to give blood over an he buildings where donations were taking place. people had to be turned. with the family reunification center food had to be turned away because there was so much love and abundance. my primary responsibility is here with my community. as a legislator, all of us, as

legislators, chuck, we have to talk about what is really happening. we have to speak the truth. >> what is that truth? >> the truth is, we have not just a gun epidemic in this country, but we have a hate epidemic in this country. >> veronica escobar, congresswoman from el paso. it's been an incredibly rough 24 hours for you and your community. hang in there. we're all with you. >> thank you. thank you. joining me me from san antonio is democratic presidential candidate, former san antonio mayor, former housingck to "meet the press." before we get into policy or anything like that. i know you have a lot of contacts in texas government. what more can you tell us about what you learned overnight. >> i think most of the facts we know at this point have been

released. you know, there were about 20 individuals who were killed that this gunman was in his early 20s. a white male. and, of course, there's tremendous amount of grief and sadness and all of us are thinking about the families there in el paso who have been victimized. >> this is going to spark a couple of conversations. one, on domestic one on our gun culture. how do you -- what do you see here as sort of the what we need to start tackling? >> we need to tackle both of these things. unfortunately, as we've seen time after time, they're related. on the one hand, it's clear what we can do to cut down on the number of these incidents. we need common sense gun reform. this happened in texas, a state that has one of the highest rates of gun ownership. it has concealed carry, it has

open carry. the shooter knew he would be walking into a store where a lot of people would be carrying a gun. that did not deter him. the answer is not more people with guns. the answer is to make sure that especially these semiautomatic weapons, these weapons of war are not out on the street and that we do things like universal background checks and red flag laws sowho shouldn't have their hands on weapons don't get them in the first place. at the same time, there's a toxic brew right now in the united states. this is just one more example of that of white nationalism. the manifesto that apparently this shooter wrote that says that hispanics are taking over the state of texas and changing the country, this echoes the kind of language that our president encourages talking about invaders and that are, you

know, others who talk about people bringing disease and changing the culture and this idea of replacement. there's v toxic brew of white nationalism that is arising, and i know that doesn't reflect,ans, the vast majority of americans, but unfortunately, what we see is an increasing number of these incidents, these mass shooting incidents. so we need to pay attention to this. we need to do something about this. the fbi has identified this. the fbi director has said that this is a particular problem right now in the united states. >> right. the president of the united states has not. right. the president of the united states has not. right. we've had the director of the fbi acknowledged there's a rise in white nationalism that is tied to domestic terrorism. the president has not.

is there any role, constructive role, he can play or because of how often he uses the language of racial resentment, does he not have the credibility to do anything to fix this problem? >> this president started his campaign in 2016 on a path of racial resentment and fanning the flames of bigotry. that's how he believes he won in 2016. that's how he thinks he's going to win in 2020. unfortunately, he doesn't have any credibility anymore. you know, when he didn't step up right away and condemn the neo-nazis after charlottesville, you know, allowing that crowd for 13 seconds to chant "send her back" a couple of weeks ago. he doesn't have any credibility. but, you know, chuck, like all americans, i hope i still hope that this president will do what

most presidents have done throughout our history, to realize we have to do everything we can to try to unite americans instead of fanning the flames of bigotry. >> do you worry that -- >> he has to be a big enough man and person in these moments to do that. >> george p bush called this white terrorism. do you think others need to use that language in order to get the president to see this problem? >> i wish they would call it that they would be honest about what is happening here. because you know very well, and i had been somebody of the muslim faith that had committed this kind of act, immediately they would go to this idea that, as the president has, this bogus idea we have to keep all muslims out of the country, which is absolutely ridiculous. i think, instead, what we need to do is address the issue with common sense gun reform.

also, address this toxic white supremacy that is brewing in the country. >> julian castro, it's a tough day for texas. a tough day for america. more people dying in the last 24 hours than troops in afghanistan die in the last two years, anyway. it's been a rough, rough weekend. thank you for coming on and sharing your news, sir. >> thank you. and a programming note, lester holt will anchor the nbc weekend nightly news tonight weekend nightly news tonight from el paso. ...timing is everything. so why wait? start farxiga now. ...helps lower a1c in adults with type 2 diabetes. although it's not for weight loss, it may help you lose weight. do not take if allergic to farxiga. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash,... ...swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing. stop taking and seek medical help right away. tell your doctor right away if you have... ...red color in urine, or pain while you urinate... ...or a genital area infection since a rare but serious genital infection may be life-threatening.

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24 hours, what we've seen particular i in el paso, sir. >> obviously, we all are grieving for the victims, for their families, and for the people who are going to have very painful, long road to recovery from gun violence. i just want to speak moral clarity now because i worry that we're having conversations that don't just focus on an understanding that we are all responsible to each other in this country. we have moral bonds and fabric of our country. we have a president of the united states who is particularly responsible. my faith had the idea you reap what you sow. he's sowing seeds of hatred in this country. the harvest of hate violence we're seeing now lies at his feet. when you have the president from the highest moral office in our land talking about invasions and infestations and shithole countries. the kind of things that come out of his mouth. it harms the moral fabric of our nation.

he's responsible. he's responsible and he has taken no action whatsoever to even condemn white supremacy. even when his own fbi is talking about this being sourcing major parts of our problem. we have a president who is responsible. who is not taking that responsibility who is doing nothing to address the deepening crisis in our country of this kind of violence. >> okay. what can he do? you've outlined he might not have the credibility with many . and, obviously, we're not going to get into whether he has the history of being able to somehow admit if he's wrong. i don't want to get into that. is there anything he can do, in your mind, that would at least begin a healing process here? >> so, chuck, it's not that he doesn't have the credibility. please understand what i'm saying. i'm saying the president is contributing to what is going on right now. he's sowing the seeds of hatred. what can he do here are two

things that must be done. one, we need to deal with this issue of guns in our community. ease of access. the fact you can be on the terrorist no try list and fill a trunk full of weapons at a gun show from a casual seller. we have a uniquely american problem because of the uniquely american phenomena that anyone who wants to kill somebody can easily use a loophole to find a weapon. as you've said, i have the boldest plan but m based upon e. if you need a license to drive a car in this country, you should have a license to buy a gun and possess it. we know that states have done that have dropped -- dramatically dropped the levels of violence. we have patchwork of these laws in this country. someone who can't get a gun in california shoot over to another state. there are specific things we should be doing that are common sense. again, the moral fabric of our

nation, we have a country right now that is boiling over in hate. we have seen this before. my parents grew up in a generation that tried to overcome lynchings and violence against african-americans. bombings of churches of a little girls. and we came together black and white, christian, jewish, and did something about this. but we have a president that is not uncapable of showing that kind of love, but he's stoking through his language hate. he's responsible for the crisis in our country and is doing nothing to actually solve it. it's unacceptable. >> there is one republican that i know of calling this white terrorism. it's george pea bush. if the president doesn't accept the responsibility that you believe he has, what is your -- what would you like the other elected republicans to do? >> well, to me, martin luther king said tell consequently.

what we have to repent for is the encyclical of words but the appalling silence and inaction of the good people. there is a complicity in the president's hatred that undermines the goodness and the decency of americans regardless of what party. to say nothing in a time of rising hatred. it's not enough to say that i'm not a hate monger myself. if you are not actively working against hate, calling it out, you are come police it in what is going on. and so this is a moral moment in america. like we have seen before where demagogues and fear amongers, hate amongers have risen. we need moral clarity and healing and love in our nation. we need leaders that are capable of doing that. >> senator cory booker, we booked you before the incidents. we were going to have a longer conversation about the campaign in general. but i appreciate your coming on but i appreciate your coming on and sharing your views

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. welcome back. i'm joined now by the white house chief of staff mick mu mulvaney. it looks like we lost our satellite connection there. let me bring in today's panel we have with us. we have kasie hunt, eddy glaus jr., ileana johnson of politico. welcome. it's a morning of lot of breaking news and moving parts here.

kasie hunt, capitol hill, the immediate response here politically has been extraordinarily uneven. democrats believing there is an easy way to explain what is going on here, as said. it's time to speak with more clarity and only george p. bush being the lone sort of republican out there calling this what it is. white nationalism. >> one thing i think we consider here is, you know, republicans fundamentally lack diversity on capitol hill and here in the capital. when you consider what the el paso shooter wrote about heading into this, and you consider george p. bush, his mother, hispanic-american. he is somebody who has a deep understanding of that community and clearly was, you know, personally identified in that document that that shooter called out. you don't really have that here in washington. i mean, the only black republican in the house announced he's retiring will

hurd, obviously, of texas down in that area. i ounow, this is a morning where we're all struggling to find the right words to grapple with this. and, you know, we've had so many conversations in this country recently. tragic conversations about how do we keep assault weapons out of the hands of psycho paths. that's a great conversation to have but this conversation is so much bigger. >> eliana johnson, does the white house accept, what is pretty much we have a white nationalism problem in this country that is leading to domestic terrorism. christopher wray sees it, george p. bush sees it. i don't we have evidence that the white house sees it. >> i think some people in the white house would accept that. i don't think the president himself accepts that. but what i think is undeniable, apart from what the white house believes, you know, normally i loathe to blame politicians for the acts of people take on their behalf. i don't think it was bernie

sanders' fault that one of h supporters shot up. but i think the president changed the they people think it's acceptable to treat their political opponents. just friday he tweeted seeming to celebrate a robbery of a congressman's house. elijah cummings saying "too bad!" i think he bears some responsibility or easy to blame him given statements like that. even though he tweeted something seemingly appropriate today. and i think that trump has sort of brought on an increasing sort of brutality toward the political -- our political opponents that is generally unwelcome. >> can you defend any of this? the president's words and statements and his -- do you believe he contributed to the

toxic brew? >> i disagree with cory booker. i agree with the comment made that i don't think you blame the politician. you blame the person who did it. i blamed oswald, i blamed hinckley, amed a haunting charles whitman who, when i was a small kid in elementary school, went to a tower and shot students from a tower in austin, texas. i didn't blame lyndon baines johnson at the time. there's no doubt the president has to come out with a strong statement. there are some white nationalists that need to be called out. radicals and ante fa nuts that attacked my cab during the inauguration and jumped on my hood with hoods on them. we have to call out radical left wing groups and not give them any credibility whatsoever. >> eddy, i want to give you a moment here. because you've been on the

forefront of talking about this white nationalism issue before. i think in a good way making people uncomfortable when you would talk about it. in a way it's like it's time to address it. we do see it shifted the conversation a bit. >> yes. so it's one thing for people to recognize we have a white nationalist problem. that's important. >> we weren't there a year ago. >> we weren't there a year ago. we weren't there a couple of months ago. this is important. it's important for us to understand the kind of continuity, the line, the connection. what does it mean to have a discourse in which people are illegal immigrant. or the phrase itself places that person outside of a certain kind of sense of empathy and decency. what happens when we use language like infestation. children. you use this governor carrying

perhaps disease across the border. what happens? you set the stage for people who are morally extreme to act violently. we're in a cold civil war. we're in a cold civil war. there's some people who bear the burden of it, chuck. there's some of us who bear the burden. you could take -- you could not blame anyone other than oswald. my parents had to worry about other folk because we grew up in mississippi. you had the luxury not to worry about the context but we had to live. we had to grow up in it. so here we have children, i'm soto we have children in el paso right now, right, who just witnessed their family members, their friends shot down because somebody thinks there's a hispanic invasion of the country. which is almost exact same language of the president of the united states. governor, you can't condemn that without making the e equivalent leapt si move. >> i'm not going to condemn people use illegal immigrant terms. >> of course, why not.

>> let me speak. we have laws on the book against illegal immigration. if we get rid of those laws -- >> no human being. >> with respect that's not what we're talking about. that's not what we're talking about. it's not the conversation we're having. lyndon johnson was not out there when lee harvey oswald shot kennedy talking about race and giving all kinds of incentives. what do you expect the president of the united states to say after something like this happens and leading up to it? there are clips of him in florida where somebody yelled at his rally "shoot the immigrants." he said maybe you can only get away with that here. that is the conversation that we're having. >> i agree 100% with your comment right there. that we have to lower the rhetoric everywhere, including the president of the united states. including some of the presidential candidates, including cable tv, including the internet, which has exploded -- >> governor, i think the

frustration here is that in the attempt to defend the president, there's always this let me bring in other -- and i think politically some of us understand why republicans are doing that right now. they're afraid of crossing this president publicly. but that's what this looks like. i mean, by how do you get him to confront what he's doing if there is almost sort of a rationalizing of it? >> first of all, i've said negative things about the president. >> i know you have. >> some people say that's why i'm not in the administration. i'm not just talking about you but the entire mind set of elected republicans. one elected -- >> i'll call it right now as a republican white nationalism. i've seen white nationalism. i don't think it's as big as what the national media portrays it, even in my own state. >> we've had a shooting in

pittsburgh antisemitic by a white nationalist and now this. >> the danger is huge. the amount of people involved but with the weapons they have, with the rhetoric is extremely dangerous. >> it's a small number of people. >> i hope i am right, too. >> i think the gap here -- >> i hope you're right about this. >> this is charlottesville and this is now is the president is not coming forward and saying people -- in charlottesville it was people flying trump/pence banners. the president saying i don't accept those people as my supporters. this person didn't explicitly mention trump. it happened with david duke during the campaign. that's what we haven't seen the president do. i think that's what a lot of republicans would like to see him do. he seems to be unwilling to do that either because he agrees with what they're saying or he doesn't want to lose the political my body is truly powerful.

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>> we are back. i'm joined now by the white house chief of stave nick mulvaney. >> good morning. >> i know this is a tough morning for all of us. i'll start with the tweet from earlier from texas. there have been multiple attacks from self-declared white terrorists in the united states. this is a real and present threat we must denounce and defeat. do you accept this statement that we have this problem in our country? >> i know this is a political show but the level of rhetoric in the last 20 minutes, i hope somebody else is bothered by this. we've moved straight past any sympathy at all for victims and what caused this and trying to

figure out whose to blame. i'll ask the question, was bernie sanders responsible when my friends got shot playing baseball? i don't think he was. was alexandria ocasio-cortez responsible for a bomb when people called it a concentration s she responsible? i don't think it was. if this administration is called out today a white national, if that person gets injured today,l we do. do we have white supremacists do we have problems? that are crazy and nuts, we do. but how quickly we move to politics this morning. >> you don't accept the fact that president's rhetoric has been a contributing factor at all? >> i blame the people who pulled the trigor. goodness. someone really blaming the president? these people are sick.

until we address why people think this way. we be clear, we know nothing about the shooter in dayton. we are talking the el paso shooter. this is a sick person. the things that person wrote now available to the world on social media making that person famous. he's felt this way a long time even before president trump got elected. why are we trying to figure out a way to bring the nation together this morning. >> that's my question to you. in fairness, the president has spent the last month on twitter stoking racial resentment in different ways. you can try to rationalize he was speaking about specific incidents but taken together these people, they hear what they want to hear.

a higher moral rhetoric when it comes to violence and refugees. >> i understand, i get that pes. i get that. but your point is right. people are going to hear what they want to hear. my guess is that this g they would blame her for doing it. this is a sick culture. we are giving them such wide audiences on social media. giving them weapons. let's talk about background checks. something we've worked on in this administration. not giving cory booker a chance to run for president by blaming donald trump. that's really disappointing. >> let's go back to the issue of white nationalism, the administration wanted to deemphasize the focus on this. christopher wray called this a

rising problem. do you accept it. does the president accept that this is a rising problem? >> let me answer it this way. i talked to the president yesterday right after el paso, texas was made known to us. ne call was to billl he makes i barr to find out how we can stop this from happening in the first place. yes, he feels the same way you do and everybody watching this show apparently with the exception of cory booker and people on your panel, which is saddened and angry. that's where we are and that's what we should be talking about. we give one party or another a leg up in this election. >> i don't think it is about a leg up -- >> that's what the entire cory booker interview was about. he's looking -- >> i don't want to get into his motivation. there are other concerns beyond

politics. the president uses dehumanizing rhetoric -- this person used -- you sort of put it on saying some people don't like his rhetoric. does the president not have a responsibility to heal the nation. reacting to how the american moral fabric is protected. >> he is absolutely everybody's president. using the term illegal immigrants somehow contributes. that is a policy discussion about border policy. the president supports legal immigration. something that didn't come up. we are going to have policy discussions. you show me how you feel about the president and i'll show you who you think is responsible for this shooting. >> you brought up a background issue. is this a president suddenly

willing to get rid of the edited out. you know we signed bipartisan background legislation last year. you know that, don't you? >> not on the loophole. >> no, no. congresse tose help fix check. something i know about the shooter in south carolina who shot my friend bought the gun because the background check system was broken. we fixed that. automatic weapons are illegal. but there is a device that turned semiautomatics to auto mattiss. we banned that. i can't believe we are five hours after the shooting moving to these type of discussions. >> unfortunately, it does appear this was a political motive of this domestic terrorist. >> this was a political motive by a crazy person with a gun. how do we prevent people from

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>> back now with the panel. we have a unique situation here in that nick mulvaney ended up hearing a panel discussion he might not have heard had our satellite been working. he was reacting a lot to what you said. >> i can give less than a damn what he thinks. he wouldn't even acknowledge it was an attack.

he said it was a person crazy with a gun. if it was a muslim, it would have been a terrorist attack. when it is white men engaging in this sort of action, we get this account that we want to go to their mental health. let's stip lateh they are crazy. >> everybody who kills somebody is crazy. >> but there is an ideology at work here. you use the same language that we heard. for a lot of folk in this country who are black and brown. for folks who are not white men, it feels as if some white men have lost their minds and we have to bear the burden of it. >> probably the back and forth here is that does the president's language matter or not? just what the president's language has been over the last few months. >> we have to end human

smuggling, stop human you see these caravans, it's an invasion. i was criticized for using the word invasion. look at the people they put in these lotteries. it is a disgrace. a disgrace. is it fair to hold the president's words responsible for some is of his words and whether or not he's contributing. >> not those words. i disagree with my friend. using the word illegal immigration, mick is totally right. >> let's talk about invasion and things like that. >> you look at the numbers of people coming across the border. by the way, thies nnd mexico. it is invasion from central

america. venezuela is having ail has thi problem. >> an invasion, why can't it be a refugee crisis? where words matter, why can't it be a refugee crisis? >> we are getting into political correctness. >> an invasion is hostile, a refugee crisis is not. >> to the border patrol people who are threatened. if this was happening at the airport and people were rushing to customs, we would say this is a serious problem. >> what i take issue with what mulvaney said. he said this is a crazy person with a gun. when a particular group is targeted by a mass murderer, whether jews or others in el

paso. they need to talk about that. hispanics feel uncomfortable now. >> he did get comfortable with the rise in anti-semitism. he won't on this. >> it would behoove the president to acknowledge that aspect of this crime and say all americans are with this country's hispanic community right now. that's what he's failed to do in the wake of these incidents. >> you've been tweeting, we stand with the hispanic-americans today. >> it is hard to concede with that. we are waiting to see if the president steps up or not. clearly, we are all saddened by what happened. we are all concerned by ese communities where it is

absolutely true. it is rather astonishing to me that we want to blow straight through this conversation we are having about the rhetoric and what it means and talk about things related to gun control, which normally they would never bring up. >> he almost was hoping it would be a gun control conversation. >> we can't stop talking about human trafficking and drugs. as a mayor, i've seen the impact of that. we cannot deny the language in a total debate. >> at the end of the day, we have to decide who we are going to be, chuck. there is a moral question, not just a political question. >> it has been a tough sunday. thanks for watching and sticking with us. we'll be back next week on sunday "meet the press."

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