and get a notification the instant someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today. >>. this sunday the impeachment inquiry. >> on this vote, the ayes are 232. the nays are 196. >> house democrats vote to take the next step on impeachment. >> this is a solemn moment. it's a sober moment. >> we are here because the facts compel us to be here. >> but republicans unanimously oppose it, denouncing it as a partisan exercise. >> this impeachment is not only an attempt to undo the last election, it is an attempt to influence the next one as well.

>> and they predict president trump will survive a senate trial. >> while we are doing this, i really don't know, because it's going nowhere in the senate. >> my guess this morning, democratic congresswoman of alabama who sits on the house intelligence committee and republican congressman and deputy whipp tom cole of oklahoma. plus, with exactly one year to go before the 2020 election, we have a brand-new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, general matchups and a country more divide than it has been in generations. also, how has andrew yang outlasted so many better known contender contenders? my interview this morning with presidential candidate andrew yang. joining me for insight and analysis are helene cooper, pentagon correspondent for the "new york times," rich lowrie, editor of national review, anna palmer, co-author of playbook,

politico daily newslettered and john harwood of cnbc. welcome to sunday, it's me"meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in television history, this is "meet the press," with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning him believe it or not, it is exactly one year until election day. boy, that happened fast, didn't it? and on a week when house democrats voted nearly unanimously to impeachment and republicans were nearly unanimously opposed, we have new evidence the country is as divide outside the washington beltway as it is inside, in our poll, 49% want to see him impeached, 46% oppose. now the 49% plurality is a significant change from a few weeks ago. a nine-point net in pfeiffer of impeachment. it's still close internationally. it comes from independents and

democrats, while republicans impeachment has dropped into the single digits. now, a lot hasn't change ltd., though, in head-to-head matchup itself, joe biden leads and elizabeth warren leads, those were roughly where they were in july. president trump's approval rating remains fundamentally where it has been 18 months, somewhere in between, this poll having it at 45% approving this job, 53% disapproving. but then there's this. 34% of registered voters tell us they are certain to vote for mr. trump, while a whopping 46% say they are ready to oppose him, 17% say it depends on the democratic nominee. those are tough numbers for a sitting president and interest next year's election is a week before election day levels and we're a year out. that's another rough sign for any incumbent, especially this one. it all adds up to this, a president who may well survive impeachment but who may not survive the election. >> there is an assault on our

democracy coming right out of the white house. >> the word impeachment to me, eighth dirty word. >> after a starkly partisan vote to begin an impeachment inquiry. >> those in fave, please say aye. aye. >> you all go on the record and say, mr. president did nothing inappropriate? very clear yes. >> reporter: democrats are grappling with how to make a compelling public case on impeachment to a divided country. >> frankly, impeachment is drowning out everything else. >> how concerned -- >> i'm concerned how divided it is. >> while 89% of democrats approve of the impeachment inquiry, just 9% of republicans do, while 58% of independents do support the inquiry, only 43% of independents believe the president should be removed from office. also, the calendar presents an additional messaging challenge, with just three months before primary voting begins. >> the impeachment process is

based on a constitutional standard and needs to run its course accordingly. i do say there would be a lot of benefit to trump and trumpism getting a resounding defeat at the bat lol box. because i think that's what will be required for congressional republicans to be reunited with their conscience. >> after depositions with 13 witnesses, a consistent set of facts has emerged, of a president who withheld military aid from ukraine until its president agreed publicly to investigate 2020 political opponent joe biden. lt. col. alex vindman, the top ukraine expert on the national security council testified this week he was told by white house lawyer john eisen berg not to discuss his grave concerns about the president's phone call with anyone outside the white house and eisenberg ordered the transcript of the call placed in a highly classified server. the president argues the phone call with shellen ski was perfect, even joking about it at

a rally on friday. >> gee, i guess there is only one way, let's call up ukraine for help? >> but with its mounting evidence, republicans are struggling to defend the president. and some senate republicans are arguing for a shift in strategy, acknowledging the quid pro quo but insisting it is not an impeachable offense. >> i don't care if you have a million people listening in on the phone call, i'll make my own mind up about the phone call, the president did nothing wrong. >> and joining me now is terry sule of alabama a member of the house intel excellen intelligence committee. we start with speaker pelosi says she expects hearings to start this month. how much of it is essential i will going to be the best of what you have been seeing behind the scenes? >> you know, chuck, this is a

sombering moment in america's history and i think that those of us who have been reluctant participants. i represent a red state. i'm a blue dot in a red state. frankly, i think that what really got me on the side of going to this inquiry was the fact that this president is interfering in our elections. he withheld important military assistance. he did so openly in his own admission. and i think that the american people deserve to hear the facts and we need to follow the facts where they lead us. we need to be able to apply the law and more importantly, we need transparency. that exactly what the vote was in past week. it was for transparency. >> have you heard enough in your mind that the president essentially should be indicted for this? that's what an article of impeachment is, it's an indictment. >> it is. i can tell you that evidence is mounting. i think that, i think that the american people should hear the

testimony of ambassador taylor. we just heard from a war hero, mr. venerman recently. i think it's really important we get to the bottom of this. to me i seen my republican colleague itself twist themselves into -- themselves too a pretzel in order to defend the indefensible. i think this the about right and wrong. i think the american people understand right and wrong. i think it's important that we give to them, let them hear for themselves the testimony and i think that we've already been presented with a lot of testimony that has been leaked or been opening statements have been presented that has a very damming case against the president. >> what role should public opinion play here? >> public opinion everything. speaker pelosi offense u often quotes thomaseverson, it's all about public sentiment, having said that i think we present in a deliberate fashion. when you think about it we have been doing this three weeks, we have already had 13 witnesses

come before us. we're working all throughout the work, district work period, which is why i am here in washington. i think it's really important that we do so in a deliberative fashion, but we do so expeddiently, because i think the american people need to know we are still working on their behalf when it comes to legislative. >> it's interesting you said public opinion is everything here. do you feel you almost have two challenges? you can layout the case in a perhaps in a court of law with 12 jurors, you can win your case, but there is to me a second bar you have to meet, which is what he did egregious enough that he shouldn't be allowed on the ballot in 2020. is that a separate bar? >> well, i think it's all connected is what i think. it think it's important the american people get to choose for themselves. i also think it's important we do so. we present the evidence to them in a way that they can understand it and hear it. you know, what's so appalling to me. >> does that mean the senate trial is weird to you, in some ways your job is to present the

evidence and the public may act. instead, maybe it's november. is that sort of where you are? >> where i am is i think it's important that we make sure this is not just about process. the republicans have been able to focus on process because they can't really defend the truth of the evidence that's being presented in these investigations. what's really to me damming is the fact that over 40 republicans get to participate in the skip like i do, three committees, 40 republican, over 40 of them get to participate in this. and so i think that the vote last week was to remove the process argument and really focus on the truth. we should be able to present the truth in a way the american people can understand it and i think that, i hope that the american people will understand that this is about abuse of power. you know, my district, the alabama 7th districts people fought and died for vote. to me it's the soul of our democracy. it's whether or not a president

can ask a foreign power to actually investigate his political rivals and to withhold assistance. it's about national security. i think this is really an important moment in american history. it's a somber moment in american history. we want to make sure the american people understand the gravity and they get to choose the for themself, it's important they get to understand. >> i want to play something speaker pelosi said about friday about adishlg charges that could get fooird filed. take a listen. >> there were 11 obstruction provisions in the mueller report and perhaps some of them will be present, but again that will be a part of the inquiry. >> so would you prefer this to be focused solely on ukraine? or do you think broadening it out to include some of the obstruction charges that were in the mueller report is something that is worthy? >> well, i think that the most egregious charge to me is national security. and that's what i think we should focus on. that's thousand intelligence committee got in this.

i would narrow it. having said that i think in fact of the mueller report did outline obstruction of justice. we see in plain view, this administration is doing everything to make sure that witnesses don't get a chance to come and be heard and why are they hiding it? if they really have firm grounds to stand on, why are they so afraid to let witnesses come before us and tell their side? >> speaking of witness, john eisenberg do you expect him to testify monday or will that get blocked? >> i don't know. i hope he will testify. we are all here for his testimony to be presented tomorrow. this administration has done everything it can to hide the ball. and it begs the question what are they trying to hide? i think it's important that we stay focused on presenting the facts and applying the law and realizing this is about our constitution. this is about our constitutional responsibility. >> deposition, are they getting released, the transcripts of these deposition, there has been some thought they could get released this week. should which expect them? >> i think as you can expect the speaker said they will be

released sometime in november. >> before the public hearings? >> i would expect before the public hearings, i'm not sure. i think it's not about the time line it's about getting it right, making sure we are presenting the facts to the american people. >> one political question, there is a roaring debate in the democratic party for medicare for all or taking obamacare and expanding it. which side of the aisle are you on, on this? >> i think we should take the affordable care act and expand it. i represent alabama where i have a lot of access issues. there are so many americans that don't have any, it's about making sure we are access universal access for all americans. >> do you think med compare for a medicare for saul too big of a step and start with obama care? >> i know many want to keep the health insurance that they have. we have 10 million americans that don't have any coverage. we should be focused on that. >> terri sewelle.

thank you for coming on, in our poll, we asked people why or why not should they impoo etch? the most common answers were that mr. trump was dishonest, unfit for office, self centered and had abused his power. now, among the 46% who say congress should not impeach, people say president trump did nothing wrong, he is doing a good job. there is no evidence of wrong doing and the propercess, itsel is politically motivated. it's important the country is listening to two different narratives. joining me the top republican, congressman cole, welcome back. >> chuck, good to be with you. >> let me start with a simple question here. do you believe there was a quid pro quo? >> no. >> not at all? there is a question some believe there was and it doesn't rise to impeachment? >> well, the things we know are this. we know the president says there was no quid pro quo.

we know president zelensky said he didn't feel any pressure. we know there is no ukraine investigation and we know the military aid got there. those are things we no so, no, i don't think there was a quid pro quo. >> that's an interesting way you put it. we've seen five witnesses just this week testify to a quid pro quo, that military aid was being held up over these investigation and we had rudy guiliani somehow playing a private role here. does any of that stuff to you rise -- any of that a concern to you? >> well a concern is different than rising to the little of impeachment. again, i look at it this way. the aid is there. and the investigations didn't happen. so if there was a quid pro quo, it certainly wasn't a very effective one. >> so why shouldn't the president be held accountable for in? >> you can hold any president accountable. you should do it at an oversight hearing. we are doing it willie nillie in a process unacceptable to most

republicans, we are doing exactly what speaker pelosi said we shouldn't do, proceeding in a partisan consensus, the democratic caucus got bit and decided it wanted to beat this guy one way or another. >> threats go back to the quid pro quo, you can taking the president at his word? >> first of all to be fair, i haven't heard any of the witnesses. >> okay. >> but i look at it this way, chuck, i got 40 odd republicans as my friend before me said that have been sitting in those hearings. they don't think this rises to the level the of impeachable sense and they don't think we should have proceeded in the manner we did this year. so again, i've got the transcript, which i've read, i got media reports, which i've paid attention to and colleagues that have been sitting in the room, none of whom thinks thihi rises to the level of impeachment. so it's pretty easy for me given those things to say that i think we're off on a track that's going to divide the country and we can't resolve if congress. >> let me ask you this, though, i will play you an array of

responses defending the president by fellow republicans from you. because that array seems to be sending a mixed message. take a listen. >> a whistleblower complaint is hearsay here. the whistle proceeder was not on the phone call. >> it seems like a fair bit of hearsay. >> no first-hand knowledge. >> there is no quid pro quo. >> no quid pro quo. >> we do that all the time with foreign policy. >> the president has had questions of foreign aid across the board, whether it's in central america, afghanistan or other places so it wasn't unique necessarily to ukraine. >> no impeachable problem. >> no remotely impeachable offense. >> i don't see that rising to the level of impeachable defense. >> i think bill cassidy from louisiana said it's possible there was pa lack of judgment. what is the public supposed to absorb from this? the republican party says no this didn't happen. all right, maybe it did, it's not this. do you see why some are skeptical of really what the republicans -- >> well, i think the best thing

for the public to do is read the transcript. it's the closest thing we have to the record. you make a judgment as to whether or not you think what happened there is worth putting the country through an incredibly divisive experience, it's stopping everything else from happening and we know how this story is going to end. there is a very little likelihood the president will be removed. we made a political decision to put everything on hold, divide the country for an outcome we know and we are doing it, what's going to happen, and essentially a year before an election. to me that doesn't make a lot of political sense and it's bad for the country. >> it seems we're in a bad spot. we are also setting a presidency if there is no guardrail to stop him from as peggy noonan wrote essentially bullying another leader to do his political work for him and there is no consequence, how do you not prevent the next president, democrat or republican from not doing the same thing? >> for one, i have a longer discussion about congress having routinely surrendered its powers.

i think that's a good question. we went to war in libya under the last president without congress approving. >> can you state how many people admit that and collectively you have ceded your authority. >> well too much, but i think you are seeing us begin to reclaim some of it now. when you do it over 40 years, you don't do it in a single incident. you do it incrementally over time and i think that is actually under what i. >> if there were a middle ground here, not impeachment, but a senseture of some -- censure, do you think that would be a more appropriate way to go? >> if i were the democrats, i would have chosen that, again, that's up to them as to how they want to proceed. fern personally i don't see anything here i am likely to have censured the president for. fair enough, they went for the decision, they go for the whole ball of wax. it's not going to work. i do believe leader mccarthy said this is about impacting the next election than the president by impeachment.

>> let me get you to respond to justin amash, the lone republican who sort of left the party over president trump. he's tweeted this on the day of the vote. the president will be in power for only a short time, but excusing his misbehavior will forever tarnish your name. to my republican cliques, step outside your media bubble, history will not look kindly on this man. what do you say? >> first of all i regard him as a friend. we profoundly disadpreep on this issue. i think he's wrong. if i believed everything the democrats said i would still say this isn't an impeachable defense i have routinely gone home for 16 years and got yelled at for not impeaching barack obama over and over and over again. but i didn't think he'd done anything. even when i disagreed with him that rose to that level. now we're going to do this on a phone call i don't think this rises to the level. i think my friends on the democratic side are putting america through a terrifically bad experience, really because

they've lost control, they confuse what their base thinks with what the public thinks. >> why is this on the democrats and their base and not president trump. do you think president trump has any responsibility for the horrible polarizing situation we are in right now? >> look, i this city polarizing situation has been building up for a long time. but i think you don't make it better by doing impeachment. you make it worse. so you can hardly complain about polarization when on what i think is flimsy evidence you put the country through an incredibly divisive thing. you stopt everything elsewhere we can work together, whether it's appropriations, or usmca, those things aren't happening right now. you know i think this is all political and i think it's a situation where sadly the speaker lost control of her own conference. >> you have said you haven't read all the depositions. >> i haven't been able to. >> we were supposedly going to see them before then. have you closed the door completely to an article of impeachment? >> well, you never close the

door to anything like this we adopted a process every single republican said wasn't fair. we didn't do the chnt process, the nixon process. the way they've handled this they pushed prubts together whether they owe owe republicans together whether they intended to or not. am i opened to listening? of course. everything i know so far every republican that has heard it did not vote for this impeachment process. we'll see what they do. look, i think this is pretty predictable how this runs its course politically in terms of the impeachment process, itself. >> tom cole, republican from oklahoma, always good to have your perspective what i love most about being a scientist at 3m is that i'm part of a community of problem solvers. we make ideas grow. from an everyday solution... to one that can take on a bigger challenge. from packaging tape... to tape that can bond materials to buildings... and planes. one idea can unlock a breadth of solutions.

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welcome back, panel is here. cnbc editor at large, john harwood, pentagon correspondent for the "new york times," anna palmer, rich lowrie author of the new book "the case for nationalism, how it made us powerful, united and free." welcome, everybody. put up a graphic of clint of the impeachment vote of clinton versus trump. house defections, people were reminded yeah there were 31 democrats that voted. i have 1 with an after tsterisk.

i don't know what to do with justin amash. it is a sign of the times. it's interesting. the everyday anna says oh my god the president is in trouble. the politics say oh my god the president is fine. >> it's pretty stunning when you put those numbers out there. the thing that's stunning to me is just that both republicans and democrats believe the same set of facts are true. they just don't believe it was wrong or not. this is how partisan capitol hill is right now. there's very little chance that any republicans you will see move over to that other column. >> that was what struck me in our poll, rich, oh, he can't get impeached, i don't know if he can win re-election, both things can be true. >> impeachment is 49/46 which mirrors, the presidential vote. the last three years we think it's a lot of developments. in the big scheme of things, there are no developments. i think cole is working himself

up to what i think is the best defense, which is that impeaching and removing a president would be an unprecedented act in history. so you need the enormity of the offense to match that severe and unprecedented punishment. even if this was improper and i think elements of it were, i don't think it reaches that level. >> john. >> well, first of all, i disagree with anna slightly in that i think the two side look at the same set of facts. i don't think republicans can't agree it wasn't wrong, the question goes to what rich said is the gravity of the offense, secondly, the graphic you put up of the democrats voting against clinton and justin amash voting against trump makes the point about what's changed. first of all when bill clinton was president, you still had a slug of conservative democrats in the party. two parties have become more polarized since then and as a reflexion of that polarization,

on the republican's side, if you break, you immediately get rejected from the party. that's why the republican number was zero. ? helene, let me put up ought impeachment historical numbers. we have polk numbers now. here's the impeach and job approval of trump. look at nixon's numbers here at this point in time, 27%, his job approval is already below 30. at the time only 33% approved of impeachment. so trump does fall sort of in the middle between clinton and nixon. >> it's such an interesting contrast when you look at the three of them. it's interesting that bill clinton was not running for re-election and nixon as well, that changes the whole flexion of all of this. i think what we are seeing exactly why nancy pelosi dragged her feet foreso long on moving to impeachment. this is why i think that she did not want to do this and the

democrats are taking a huge, huge risk here. it's going to be really fascinating to see on the republican's side, they, too, are, have gotten themselves in the fix i don't think this is a question of them not thinking that this rises to the level of impeachment. i think they just know their political fortunes are completely tied in with this president f. they go for impeachment, they're not going to win their own races. i think that's the dynamic we are seeing here. >> there is a bill on the democratic side. it's the presidential race. i will put up a few things here. ro khanna, i certainly think it ought to happen before iowa. steny hoyer, we would like to it do as expeditiously as possible. this is that second bar that i felt like terri sewell is probably a bar they can't meet, yes they can make the case it

was a quid pro quo, can they make the case it is so egregious voters shouldn't have a chance to vote there? >> i don't think the democrats there now. i think you will see nancy pelosi move as fast as possible. this next week they will be doing the deposition behind the scenes. it gives the republicans the argument that democrats have gone rogue, they're going to do this no matter what. >> there is a poll 22 wtwo week ago, it was vacate/37 in fair of election. that's a strong suit for republicans. i don't think removing him would be good for the country. it would proceed a whole at the center of our national politics that would take years -- >> you wrote, i have been citing your column a couple weeks ago, don't look for 20 republican, that basically they're going to jump off the cliff together. >> right. >> because you can't split off. explain why. >> you can see a couple, romney and a couple others, maybe, but

the difference between the fourth republican senator and the 30th republican senator would not be huge. so for that to happen i think it would take an earth shattering event and the republicans are also very cognizant of the fact this would split the party desperately and totally ruin his chances in 2020. >> i think the big drama is when we switch from closed haers to public hearings, what happens then? we seen the phenomenon in our poll going from 11% republican support down to 6 as the partisan temperature has been raised by republicans, with this process behind closed doors. fox news poll out today show the same thing. they had 13% before favoring impeachment removal down to 8. i should say "the washington post" had each% of republicans in a poll this week. so there is a little question there. but when it becomes public, can those republicans numbers increase? i've had republican operators tell me if you get 25 or 30% of republicans saying he should be impeached and removed, then

republican lawmakers look at this differently. >> then the numbers look different. >> that would depend on, do you have a john bolt -- it's somebody of a big persona. john bolton could fit that description. >> he could. let's say he comes out and testifies and backs up what colonel vindman said and bill taylor said, are we going to see the needle move? i feel that's all been cooked in already. the public at this point pretty much knows what happened. so unless we're going to be coming out, unless there are more re68ations to come out -- revelations to come out, things that happened before this or after this, that show even more of a pattern, i think a lot of this has been baked in. >> all right. we will talk about outside of washington here. the next time we gapts on this impeachment question. because that is the other issue, what is acute here is more noise outside of here. when we come back the most under estimated and overlooked candidate in the presidential

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.. welcome back. my next guest is someone democrats have learned they can't ignore. andrew yang is the child of immigrants from taiwan, a political gap ply and most famously and advocate for something called the universal income which would give $1,000 a month to every american adult. he is out raising, out polling a sixth session of democratic office holders running for president for years. unlike many of them, he has qualified for at least one future debate. andrew yang joins me from urbandale, iowa. mr. yang, welcome to "meet the press," sir. >> it's great to be here. >> michal kempny cruz in politico wrote about you, in delivering his alarming, existentially upsetting message of automation and artificial intelligence we'll be right backing ha vog on america's economic, emotional and social

well being, there's cheerful dooms sayre. that's quite an interesting moniker, the optimistic pessimist is another way to put it. you accept that description? >> i think i'm a hard-eyed realist about what's happening in our economy, chuck. i'm here in iowa. they're seeing 30% of their stores and malls close because amazon is soaking up $20 billion in business every year and paying zero in taxes. we have to create a new way forward and rewrite the rules of the 20th century economy to work for us. >> that doesn't mean we have to be necessarily very gloomy as we deliver what to me is the most important message of our time and it's the reason why our campaign is growing and growing while other candidates are dropping out. >> you know, four years ago, you had a lot of candidates, including donald trump, were talking about bringing jobs back, bringing this back. you've basically said, he told you this, it's not true, in fact i think you use it as a way of saying that's why you have won

over former trump supporters who have now seen that, seeing it the way you see it on this. is that really what we knead to do is sort of give -- need to do is give up on creating new jobs? are we going to be in this kind of situation over the next 30 years where we don't e won't have enough -- we have too many people and not enough work? >> well, we're in the midst of the greatest economic transfer of our country's history, chuck. but putting -- buying power into our hands will build up a trickle up economy and create hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> that money doesn't disappear, it goes into local businesses, day care service, car repairs, little league signups. this is the way we rejuvenate main stream america by putting the gains of the 21st century economy into our hands, where it can actually support what's happening in our families and communities every day. >> by the way, do you envision this being a permanent

entitlement of sorts? >> well, if you look up, there is one state that's had a dividend for almost 40 years, it's alaska, the petroleum dividend and there it decreases income and equality. it makes children and family stronger. it's wildly popular after almost 40 years and so there is no reason to think it will not be wildly popular throughout the whole country. they pay for it with oil money in alaska. what i'm saying to the american people is technology is the oil of the 21st century. >> let's talk a little about the current debate happening inside the democratic primary. i think in some ways you have tried to have a little piece of every lane that there is that we in the media try to create. let's talk about the specifics of medicare for all. are you essentially for it, but you haven't talked about how you would pay for it. you know we are having a big debate about how elizabeth warren plans to pay for it. i had a democratic congresswoman on. if we haven't actually

implemented obamacare, why should we rip it up and start over? >> well, certainly, i was a fan of the themes of obamacare. many americans agree it didn't go quite far enough in terms of coverage and having americans having a says to high quality affordable care? >> how do you know? i heard this critique before, we don't know, medicaid has not been expanded in 50 states. >> you know there is a reason for that so we need to create a path forward for americans to have access to care. i would not get rid of private insurance and to me the pay for it argument is misplaced because queer already spending 18% of gdp almost $4 trillion in large part because the system is not designed to keep us strong and healthy, it's designed to make us money for the private insurance companies and the device manufacturers and the drug companies. >> let me ask you about impeachment. you have said you are in favor

of this inquiry going forward. but there is a basic question that many voters are going to have, do you think what the president did is of such an egregious act that he shouldn't be on the ballot in 2020? >> well, i'd agree with the panel discussion that you just had. i am for impeachment. but the fact is when we are talking about donald trump, we are not presenting a new way forward and a positive vision for the country that americans will get excited about. that's the only way we are going to win in 2020. and that's the only way we will actually solve the problems that got him elected. even when we are talking about impeaching donald trump, we are talking about donald trump and we are losing. >> yet you talk about donald trump quite a bit in your rallies, you seem to want to support the donald trump supporters. >> well, if you listen to my rally speech, chuck, the vast majority of it is about the challenges that americans are experiencing every single day. these challenges preceded donald

trump. they will still be with us after donald trump is out of officer and if we don't get to work solving these problems, then we're just going to be trapped in this endless food fight and the american people deserve much, much better. >> let me ask you one question that has to do with your own identity in this country. and this was a criticism written about you having to do with something you said during the last debate. frank shyong questions. seeing yang up on the democratic primary debate stage should have been a thrilling milestone for me as a fellow taiwanese american. but when i heard him use model-minority stereotypes to describe himself it was hard to feel proud. he still felt it was as a joke. you had quite a few asian-american columnists write critiques about this bothered by this a bit. what do you say to that criticism? >> i am very proud of my heritage and i'm very proud of being the first asian-american man to run for president as a

democrat. i think americans are smart enough and satisvvy enough to k a joke when they hear it. this makes them less powerful and helps dispel them. >> has it bothered you that it has attracted i noticed earlier this week you've had to push back on white supremacists starting saying nice things about your candidacy due to the political incorrectness i guess you want to call it that, you pushed back hard on that, does it bother you that that group of voters seems attracted to your candidacy? >> well, i'm completely disavowed any support from anyone who has those kind of ideas, i'm a son of immigrants, myself. to me we have to solve the real problems of this time and attacking each other for poor word choice are things the american people takes our focus away from the things on the ground that got donald trump elected. >> andrew yang, entrepreneur, again have you taken this

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back now with end game and joining us is nbc news senior correspondent tom brokaw, out with a new book, the fall of richard nixon, a reporter remembers watergate, i know like many of your friends i have enjoyed your two year, you keep finding things and send it to us as you have been going, it's

been great to watch you go through your watergate days, it was remarkable. we played a clip from 1973, eight days later, nearly ten months before nixon resigns. we are at that same points and we're expecting to have an impeachment inquiry and vote and all that done in the next six, eight weeks. >> like everything else, it's speeded up more, instrumentation and time, nixon held on to office after they went to jail, these were his principle aides all going to jail, stuff starts to leak out that closely ties nixon to the whole coverup. john dean said at one point he was in the office 35 times when we talked about this coverup. yet he was able to hang on. i think in part because the system took, it was a more deliberate process, methodical than, look, i brought my typewriter. i did one story a day on my typewriter. i was on the air that night.

now our correspondent versus one of these and they're on from the moment they hit the white house until they go home at night. i was able to finish my day, then work on the "today" show the next morning and a lot of people what's your opinion, tom? we rarely gave it. we said if this doesn't work out, we wouldn't go on the air with it. >> i'm interesting, that's different. some things haven't changed. david brooks wrote the following, for most, impeachment is not a priority. it's a dull background noise, people in washington and the national media doing the nonsense they always do. a pollster can ask americans if they support, many realities are indifferent. as much as people didn't like nixon, fewer were in favor of impeachment then than they are now. >> well, i think it's important because of the whole if you will the whole communications culture of what's going on, what they had in front of them. what they were being told by social media, the single

greatest change. not just in our business, but in american life and the life around the world is social media. everyone has access to an ability to a tool that will allow them to express their opinion or to be, if you will, misleading about what's going on. >> you know, rich lowrie in 1973, nixon might have had buckley and national review, he didn't have all these other communications tools. >> well, with nixon it was a case of the walls were closing in and the way he reacted made it worse. it's just hard to see how this episode gets much worse and much better for the president and per david brooks' point, it accords with what all of us have heard anecdotally from republicans and democrats. people out there don't talk about impeachment a lot at any events. it doesn't come up. even though the poll versus slipped closely his way a little bit that has to be a concern. >> we went out and tried to find some voters talk about impeachment. we had to bring it up to them, here's what they told us. >> it's a waste of time.

you have a bunch of kids fighting not accomplishing what they are elected for. >> we have a system of checks and balances, the way the house and the senate should do what is set out in the constitution. >> i read the document, there was absolutely nothing concerning to me. >> helene, these were in the early states. >> yeah, they r. but i wonder who are all the voters that you are talking to. because i'm so inundated. when anybody find out i'm a reporter, everybody wants to ask me about impeachment, what's going to happen? so i just wonder at you know what you could have gotten ten other people saying something completely different. it is -- it is not as caucophennous out there as in the big cities. i sort of think it's still starting to rise. >> i'd say all the communications we have going on

now, chuck, the gap between who we are, where we work around what we have to say tapped rest of the country n. north dakota, they're a lot more worried about soy beans than this. i can tell you what the weather is going to be a and that's what drives them. as we get closer, they will pay more attention. >> it feels like we are setting up a narrative that will be decisive on a presidential election, not an impeachment trial. >> i think that's right. this is the beginning of what could happen in 2020 for sure. >> speaking of the presidential race, the democrats, one thing that happened this week, i don't know if it's going to break through because of impeachment, elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg and joe biden decided to go after each other. with rein a new phase. >> it's getting real. it typically has been around that iowa dinner. you have that sprint, november, december, january, very clear top tier in the race and elizabeth warren took a risk by coming out and laying out this medicare for all plan, which

interestingly the likes of nancy pelosi says, i'm not interested. >> what did you make, anna? terri sueell saying i like obamacare. >> that's where the center of the democratic party is. >> that will be a fascinating fight. >> i think where elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are, is where a lot of the democrats are to keep the majority of the house. it's not where these candidates are. >> she was dammed if she didn't or didn't, it seemed she had no choice. >> chuck, i want to mention one other contrast that tom mentioned from watergate. my dad invited me down as the editor of the washington post to watch his speech, very classy. very much respect for institutions. we're not going to see that from trump. >> no you won't. we will leave you with the most important thing that happened this week. scenes from the capital celebration. the district of champions, baby. the victory parade for our world series washington nationals.

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