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vice president biden and pete i spoke with vice president mike pence who's leading the we are people helping people. buttigieg of indiana. plus the coronavirus. government's response effort and you'll see in the the dow falling. >> breaking news tonight. show. we're going to begin with the stock market closing the the democratic race and the bik week in freefall. >> fears escalating. shakeup here. perhaps no one had more riding >> very clear, if we have a global pandemic, no country is on south carolina or has more riding on super tuesday than joe going to be without impact. biden. the former vice president joins welcome back. my next guest has an unusual me from a super tuesday state, >> president trump insisting job, hunting viruses. there's little to worry about. montgomery, alabama. he's chased ebola in africa and vice president biden, welcome >> my administration has taken back to "meet the press." now his focus is the coronavirus the most aggressive action in >> thanks, chuck, for having me. and the danger it poses as it modern history to confront the i appreciate it. >> well, let's start with your spreads around the world. spread of this disease. big win last night. >> as he and his allies blame how do you ensure that what nbc news medical contributor dr. the media for frayed nerves. happens in south carolina doesn't stay in south carolina? joseph fare joins me now. >> they think this is going to welcome to "meet the press." >> i keep talking about the same things i've talked about, chuck. you were telling me you spent a be what brings down the about how we have to restore the lot of time in the lab where appellat soul of this country, bring they discovered this virus in president. >> vice president leading the country's response. back -- look, it's not about china. simple question, how concerned >> we're going to bring the full should americans be right now? resources of the federal organizing a democratic party, government to bear. >> right now with the data we >> this morning my sitdown with it's about giving confidence to the vice president. the american people that we can have and i emphasize the data we and i'm talk to virus hunter and get the things done which i have because we haven't rolled out broad testing nationally nbc news medical contributor dr. believe we can get done. joseph fare. they're not looking for yet, your average individual joining me no insight and revolution, they're looking for american doesn't need to be that results, they're looking for analysis are nbc news whout change, they're looking for concerned right now of catching correspondent kristen welker. movement forward. this virus. so i think -- and i'm going to however, community-based continue to talk about the things i've been talking about, transmission in one state means eddie glaude jr., peggy noonan that there is probably including -- look, this is not community-based transmission in and former white house press other states. just about wealth, this is about once we roll out that testing

secretary robert gibbs. welcome to sunday and a special work being reward all the thing and lower the criteria for being edition of "meet the press." tested for covid-19 we'll >> announcer: from nbc news to talk about and i feel good headquarters in new york, the probably see more cases than we longest running show in about it. television history, this is a >> when we last spoke about two thought was here previously. special edition of "meet the weeks ago, there was a concern >> there was a report in press" with chuck todd. washington state where we had the first death with no apparent among many of your supporters, connection to anybody that's where was the urgency, where was been traveling, they think it's good sunday morning from our the fire. you certainly showed it this possible there have been election headquarters right here last week. at rockefeller center in new you showed the urgency, you hundreds of cases that were showed the fire. missed. york city. we have so much to talk about. how do you reassure those is this most likely the scenario yesterday south carolina's supporters that you will sustain here that maybe has played out primary, our look ahead to super on the west coast, that it may tuesday and the growing fears this? >> just watch me. have gotten here before we knew over the coronavirus which has now claimed its first victim in it? >> it's difficult to say numbers the united states. just watch. a lot of supporters stepped up so let's get right to it. but yes, definitely, it was probably here before we knew it we'll start with presidential the last 24 hours. politics. while he's not yet the comeback we raised over $5 million last because we had a very strict kid, joe biden got the win he so testing criteria that you had to desperately needed yesterday. night. we've raised a considerable have documented travel to china biden's south carolina firewall amount of money this month. held and then some. or one of the places where things are beginning to move transmission occurred. with almost all the votes usually every time we look for a virus we can finding it onli online. counted, joe biden won every >> $5 million last night? single county in the state, somewhere. crushing bernie sanders by a 2-1 having found that one case, margin with everyone else the last 24 hours. >> yes. there may be others that have trailing badly. well, it's online. you know, things are moving. the virus as well. they may be asymptomatic or in biden's big win helped him close look, we got outspent 40-1 in the delegate gap considerably south carolina. the low risk group and didn't with sanders. 40-1. and we won single county. meet the cdc testing criteria with six south carolina and we've now won more actual which has been lowered so a lot

delegates still to be allocated, it's very >> just days ago the votes overall since this began, more people can get tested now. >> tell me what pieces of since the whole process began, tidacy dead. information you'd like to know than bernie has won. now that would make you feel and so, look, we're feeling more confident to know where we're headed, where this virus good. is headed? again, i take nothing for >> really it all comes down to granted. i'm not going to be a pundit and the diagnostics. we need to start testing anyone say where i'm going win and how that is negative for flu and i'm going to win. if we win it's because of the negative for your average common message we have and because cold for coronavirus. we're going to get something done. >> last night you were trying to once we get that diagnostic make this a two-person race. testing up and running nationally, we get a lot cities you said you were either going to win big or lose big. do you believe bernie sanders would lead the democratic party to a big loss? indication of where we have >> i do. i think bernie sanders' position community-based transmission and on a number of the issues, even how many actual cases we have in in the democratic party, are the country. >> we were talking earlier and i going to be very -- are very was asking you the likelihood controversial. the idea that you're going to that this is one of these issues find $60 billion and not going where one of those viruses will to -- trillion, i should say, not going to have to raise taxes go dormant in the summer and on middle class people, the idea back in the fall. that we're talking about >> this is a new virus to immigration. if bernie had voted for the -- science. it's not a new virus, it's a new if we had passed the immigration virus to science. bill that i voted for and teddy we weren't familiar with this virus before. we do have cold and flu seasons kennedy and the others voted for which do tend to diminish in the about ten years ago, we'd

already have 6 million people summer months. we don't yet know if this is who were undocumented american going to be the case. citizens. you can still get flu in the so there's a lot of talk. we're getting down and everybody summer and get a cold in the is going to look at bernie's summer. it is likely cases might dip record as closy as they have during those summer months, but it is likely also that it will looked at mine and i think they'll see some stark stick around for quite some time because we're not going to have differences in where we stand. >> on wednesday morning if you a vaccine, presumptively we are behind by a big chunk of delegates, it may be because of michael bloomberg. woekt ha do you have a message to michael won't have a evacuativaccine be bloomberg? >> no, i'm not presuming to end of summer. >> speak to school ketball game sending anybody a message. as i've said before, i respect the people running. they're going to make their own high school. decisions. we'll see what happens. but there's a long way to go. you know, when should you make those calls? >> are you concerned, though, what would be your advice to that michael bloomberg and in these leaders who have to make this decision? your candidacy, you're appealing >> yeah. right now, and again i emphasize to the same group of voters, the right now because this could same sort of moderate centrist change quickly and i'll go back to diagnostics. pragmatists, whatever you want to call that group of voters, if we have diagnosed community-based transmission in and you split -- you know, the an area where your school is or combined number may be greater you're a superintendent of a than sanders, but sanders may school where you have a documented case of covid-19, win these primaries because of that's the time you want to that split? start thinking about cancelling >> well, look, chuck, i'm not mass gathering events such as

being facetious here, we've had basketball games and actually closing schools. this discussion before in kind. japan has just closed all their i'm not a pundit. schools for one month at least. all i know is why i think we those are the times. it all depends on the first should -- why i should be the diagnosis and the data that we nominee, why i think we have have. we try to make these decisions based on data, not just because such an enormous opportunity, and why i think people are not someone has a cough or a sneeze looking for revolution, they're because we are in the midst of looking for results. they want to make sure their cold and flu season and it might work gets rewarded. just be that. they want to make sure they have >> dr. fair, i appreciate you helping us out in understanding access to health care, not a pie this a little better with a in the sky notion, that we can get it done immediately and they can be covered quickly. little sign scientific they want to make sure that they are in a position where their kids have access to an expertise. education. expertise. they want to make sure that we you've been hearing a lot about 5g. but there's 5g... do something about climate and then there's verizon 5g. we're bu expience for america. change, and that's an it's more than 10 times faster than some other 5g networks. international as well as national responsibility. they're the things that have been in my wheel house my whole and it's rolling out in cities across the country. so people can experience speeds career and i think i'm ready to that ultra wideband can deliver. 1.7 gigs here in houston. get done. >> there's no doubt jim 1.8 gigs here in frigid omaha. clyburn's endorsement was a big almost 2 gigs here in los angeles. deal to your candidacy, the exit that's outrageous. poll indicated it was a big it's like an eight-lane highway deal. he's got a lot of things to say compared to a two-land dirt road. about your campaign. this is what he said yesterday.

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west, specifically california. one visit isn't going to fix and my lack of impulse control,, your problems out there. i know you're going out there, i is about to become your problem. think, on monday evening and ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. spending tuesday. what is a good night for you in hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. california? >> again, i'm not going to who's the dummy now? speculate what's good and bad. whoof! whoof! look, we have had limited funds to begin with, number one. so get allstate where good drivers save 40% number two, the first two caucus for avoiding mayhem, like me. and primary did hurt the campaign in terms of whether or sorry! not people thought that we were he's a baby! likely to win. and it did have some impact. and, look, i haven't had the kind of money that bernie has been working on for a long, long time here. he's done a great job of it. i haven't had that kind of staff. i have a from the mayor of los angeles to barbara boxer to people like diane fine 79 and serious, serious people in the state, but that's not enough.

it's hard to put people on the ground when you haven't had tens of millions of dollars other people have had. >> do you think you can win this primary before the convention -- >> i know i can. >> do you think it's inevitable that you and sanders may have to work this out at the convention? >> i think i can win it before the convention. but again, i'm not -- look, all i know is i think we're moving into a constituencies that are constituencies when they hear me have always been mine, diverse communities, white working class folks, african-americans and hispanics, women in the suburbs. there are places of the reasons asked to join the ticket with barack obama in 2008, that hadn't changed. i think people know me and it's a matter of my being able to get organizational structures on the ground in big states and it looks good some places and looks tougher others. >> all right. well, we will findi out tuesday

night and wednesday morning. thanks for coming on, sharing your views and be safe on the campaign trail. >> thanks, chuck. joining me now is former south bend mayor and presidential candidate, pete buttigieg. mayor pete, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you. good to be back with you. >> so let's -- i assume you don't want to sugar coat things. you spent the second or third most amount of time in south carolina. you put every effort that you could into this state. it's not like you glossed over it. i assume you're disappointed in your finish. where does this -- where do you think your campaign stands now? >> well, you know, every day i get up and look at how we can do our part to make sure we defeat donald trump and that continues to be my focus. we knew south carolina was going to be a challenging state. we competed hard there, but nothing can take away from vice back nowesident's uneven we president biden's commanding victory and i congratulate him on that. trying to get his arms around i think the most important thing the coronavirus. is to look at what we can do to peggy, you wrote a column. make sure that we put forward a

campaign that is going to end >> yeah, i think so. i think where we are at this the trump presidency, because point is it seems to me that the everywhere i go, americans are president, in terms of his first focused on ensuring that we not three, three and a half years, only get better policies, that he has been astoundingly lucky, we turn the page on all of the things that this president is and lucky is a good thing, but doing and has done to our he's been lucky in that various country, to our democracy, but also that we turn the page on physical natural disasters the tone in our politics and haven't happened, international that we move on from this crisis. we couple that with the fact divisive and toxic season in that managerially this american public life. that continues to be my focus, administration, this white as it has every day since the house, has tended to be campaign began. >> the venn diagram of shambolic. we're on our fifth head of presidential messaging of what you just said right now and vice president biden's victory speech department of homeland security, last night, there had been a lot jobs not filled. of overlap there. if luck holds, this will all joe biden makes almost the same turn out okay. case you're making now of what if luck does not hold, this will the nominee of the democrats be a managerial crisis and we'll needs to be, the focus on donald see how it goes for the white house. >> walk us through this week. trump. it does feel as if they -- it at what point do you have to look at that and say, huh, we sort of -- they're realizing, both have the same message, he's oh, my god, this is a serious problem. >> that's exactly what happened. winning? >> well, there's certainly that >> but it seems like it took the

overlap there. death to really sober them up. we also obviously represent a >> it did. and you had mixed messaging different style and approach in throughout the week, because you many ways. but what i'll say is that call had health official who say came out at the beginning of the week to decency i think is something and said this is significant. that is very strong in our party right now. we should brace for coronavirus to come here. it's what we need in our country the president tried to downplay right now. we cannot go on like this with it. he didn't want this to become the crisis that it's now the politics of being at each becoming. the death sobered them up. other's throats. he had that press conference part of how i believe our yesterday. campaign has been able to beat he's had two now in the briefing the odds and defy all of the room, rare to say the least. expectations is that our message of belonging is one that has and a couple of things happened. one, chuck, he did try to strike resonated across the country and that is reaching people in so a more disciplined tone in talking about all of this. many different ways. he tried to walk bac >> you had said that you thought voters are color were giving you a second look. in which he referred to the the exit poll shows a pretty democrats' response to this as a hoax. a lot of republicans were deeply tough number here, 3% of the concerned by that type of language because they say this african-american vote, according is life and death. to the exit polls here. this is different, as peggy this is after a second look. points out. >> robert, i was thinking about the nominee of the democratic party has to be able to win -- your first crisis was the oil spill, you guys. has to be able to have a strong and i remember the first i'd say coalition of african-american couple of weeks, you guys voters, latino voters. this has been a struggle for you struggled. >> no doubt. both in nevada and south >> when you're beginning on one carolina. of these crisis, it's never

>> well, again, there's no easy. >> all of a sudden everybody question that the vice president catches up to it at a point in had a commanding lead with black which it seems a little chaotic. voters in south carolina. that bar of earning the trust of look, i hope they use that voters of color right now, that briefing room more because it's bar is high for a reason, a public health crisis, not a pr especially when you're talking crisis. the american people need an about black voters in the south. administration that is staffed with professionals that are that is a hard won vote that is transparent about what the american people need to know and brought about -- often that what they need to do. access is brought about within put the doctors in the living memory. forefront. stop making predictions and i understand why that bar is so high. i'm humbled by the challenge and overdeliver. >> look, eddie, the president, have continued to focus on his instincts are -- we know making sure i present not just what his instincts are. our policy ideas but what this i have a hundred ebola tweets. campaign is about in a way that can reach out to black voters i just wantifst want to put the and voters across the board. >> you ran for dnc chair a because this is what happened when we had the last public couple of years ago. health crisis. had you succeeded, you'd be the he was the one stirring the pot chair of the democratic party and stirring up the fear and right now. telling people, oh, my god, it's what do you believe chairman all over africa, shut down the buttigieg would be saying to candidate buttigieg in this flights. so we know he's just situation? you have said bernie sanders is a very polarizing figure. uncomfortable handling moments like this. >> right. and we know he doesn't have the you think that is not the direction the party ought to go. capacity or the competence to handle such moments. at what point would chairman that's a harsh judgment to make. >> we don't know that yet. buttigieg say to candidate

i think a lot of us hope on this buttigieg do what's best for the one we hope to be wrong on that party? >> well, look, every day i'm one. >> look, i want this getting up looking at how we can administration to succeed on do what's best for the party. this for obvious reasons. but the evidence is in. it's why we got into this race in the first place, the belief we're not just talking about a that a different kind of message credibility crisis, we're and a different kind of talking about a competency messenger could rally people crisis. we've all been asking this together, could forge new question, will they be ready and alliances, could help us reach prepared to deal with a genuine, out in the very places where we genuine threat, a genuine crisis had the best message, and yet in the country. it makes me that we're doubtful. let me just say this too. found ourselves defeated by president trump in 2016 and this proves the argument that cannot let that happen again. there's a role for government. every day we're in this campaign we've seen over and over again is a day we've reached the an attack on big government, conclusion that pushing forward that it has no usefulness, it's is the best thing we can do for the country and do for the not efficient. we see th make that party. >> how should we judge success for you on tuesday? your campaign hasn't pointed to argument. >> it's interesting. a state you're going to win. this is a case where you need government, to work. you've talked about it being a delegate strategy and that is >> you certainly do. what it's about, it's about this is a public health challenge or a public health getting delegates. tell me where you're going to reyour public get these delegates. >> well, we believe that there institutions to come forward are places from coast to coast in districts across different competently and not panic states where our message is anybody but also not say there's no problem.

resonating particularly well. you need -- it's very hard in we'll be looking at the math as life, as we all know, public we continue to push and make the most of the resources that we life, private life, strike a balance. but in a crisis you've got to have. i think what matters most right hit that place. now is calling americans to that >> the thing that this president is going to hate is that there's vision of what it could be like going to be, as this virus moves in this country. across the country every day, if we could turn the page on the toxic and divided character of there's going to be another state get its first instance. our politics right now. there is already an american that's something that he doesn't majority that agrees with us, handle well. that agrees with our party on >> it's moving so quickly, the need to raise wages and chuck. this is undoubtedly, i think, empower workers and do something his greatest leadership test to about climate and act on gun date. and you sort of saw that violence. you wouldn't always know it from looking at the outcomes in dichotomy on display yesterday. he was in the briefing room. washington, but right now the american people are already with then you had the president trump us. what's going to be needed is a who went cpac and you saw his message, a messenger and leadership to make sure those nat priorities are met and i find he stepped away from the that true in the reddest of language that it's a hoax, but states and on the coast as well. the other piece of this, chuck, >> is there a result on super is the economy. of course the health crisis tuesday for you that would comes first. change your outlook on your omy.there's also this issue campaign? if you don't keep -- people watched what happened to the stock market this week. >> we do a lot of math on this that's his signature argument for re-election. campaign, so we'll be assessing so behind the scenes, he's quite at every turn, not only what the concerned by this. you saw it play out a little bit by twitter, but his officials

right answer is for the campaign but making sure that every step are trying to tamp down his concern. we take is in the best interest they're saying wait until of the party and that goal of summer, it's going to rebound. question mark about that. >> robert, i hate to be crass, making sure we devofeat donald there was an opportunity after the democratic debate was just trump because our country can't take four more years of this. food fight. >> i know you'll be spending the the president could have put dr. morning with the carters, so fauci front and center, walked thanks for coming on and sharing away. as jim cramer said to me, market your views. be safe on the campaign trail. when we come back, joe biden probably recovers on friday. >> and i think you've got to has about 48 hours to make this have the doctors in the a one-on-one race with bernie forefront, they're the experts. they're the ones that are going sanders. can he do it? to -- and dr. fauci does this the panel is next. and later, how really well. he walks people through what's ♪ going to happen in a calm, easy voice and you understand that if we see more cases, they ♪ understand that's what was supposed to happen and you feel ♪ more confident in the response. that's what they have to get to. >> all right, thank you, guys. before we go, a quick ♪ programming note. nbc news will provide complete coverage of super tuesday voting. i'll be joined by lester holt, savannah guthrie and andrea mitchell for complete, and i ♪ mean complete coverage. 8:00 eastern, we're going 8:00 schwab, a modern approach to wealth management. eastern, 8:00 pacific, six ♪ hours, don't miss it.

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it out there. i've got north carolina and texas, probably as good of bellwethers as you can have on the future of both sanders and biden n north carolina it's sanders with a two-point lead. basically margin of error. look at the bloomberg number, though. add up bloomberg and biden, that's an interesting number. among african-americans, this was done before south carolina in the middle of the debate, so only 36% there for biden that. number could grow. shows you growth potential there. let's look at texas. bernie sanders a bigger lead here, double-digit lead thanks >> a lot of people are feeling hopeless of what lies ahead. mostly, look at the latino support sanders is getting here. due to mature overnight, ad 46%. this is what's interesting here, eddie glaude jr. coronavirus death has been reported in the u.s. and now the we may be seeing the democratic first case has been confirmed in party basically split right in new york city. we've got the latest on the half with two different coalition. bernie sanders leading a outbreak and pete buttigieg pulls out liberal, latino coalition and of the 2020 race just ahead of joe biden leading a moderate, super tuesday. african-american coalition. while senator amy klobuchar >> that is so fascinating for me, mind blowing actually. faces some new political head winds. a police shooting at a

in some ways i would have never imagined, although i understand chicago transit station. the data, that african-americans what happened and why did it would in some ways be the escalate to gunfire? north korea stirring the pot firewall for the moderate wing of the democratic party. as they launch two more to me that is just stunning projectiles. but why now? news. but let's be clear. i think we're in the south. south carolina is a unique space. so to think african-american vote as monolithic in that way, we need to be careful there, particularly as we move out of a particular side of the south. but let's be clear here too. latino voters, t that everyone thought was about to explode has exploded. we'll see them having an impact on the election -- >> it's the west versus the south. >> exactly. >> and it's going to clash right in texas, peggy. >> it's -- it's interesting, to say the least. i also thought the truest words joe biden said when he made his victory speech last night were to jim clyburn when he said essentially thank you for saving me. he did.

and not only -- >> not only did he just say you're welcome, and i've got some things to say. >> it's very clear. so not only as eddie says did we see a firewall saving a moderate democrat, but we saw, i think, a leader is the wrong word, but there's a sense in america sometimes that establishments and authorities are losing their clout. but jim clyburn came forward the other day and he said i'm going to tell you what i want you to do, and people listened, considered and did it. we saw in the exit polls. half the people leaving said i listened. kind of touching in a way. >> and more than half the people said they wanted to keep obama's policies intact, so at least in some places this is still obama's democratic party. the question is does that hold in north carolina. and what, if any, bounce is biden going to get in places like north carolina and texas. but, of course, the carolina.

>> texas and california the two biggest ones there. all right, robert, has biden -- he wants to say this is a two-person race. i think he could sweep the south. i mean it's possible, north carolina will be the toughest one. >> you look at the numbers you just showed and you've got bloomberg at 15% right at that viability line. so last night's win and that momentum push a couple of points up for vice president biden and push bloomberg down a couple of points? do you force that one-on-one contest through viability? i think joe biden's strategy has to be to survive the big states of and wake up as the sole competitor to bernie sanders. >> can we flip the script here and talk about bernie. eddie, the bernie south carolina result has to be really

disappointing into sanders. they did put some effort into here. it looks like they have made no progress to win over african-american voters from four years ago. it doesn't look like they made much. >> look, we can't underestimate clyburn's endorsement in south carolina. that's the first thing. the second thing is that i believe south carolina provided the best litmus tests for the sanders claim that they were going to expand the electorate. it's a saturday vote. >> no excuse. >> so it's a saturday vote. they have been on the ground. so what i was looking for was to see how young african-americans voted, how young college stu african-americans. >> exactly. so, again, we might have to kind of attribute it to the uniqueness of the south carolina electorate. but sanders and his campaign, they have to be concerned. i was not expecting this margin. i said explicitly it's not going to be 15, 16%. >> you're right, it wasn't 15% or 16%. it was more than that. >> so we have to really test the claim. will the sanders campaign

actually make good on its claim they're going to expanding the electorate. >> peggy, i want to put up two pieces of writing. you're the best writer here. one is making the aengt sanders argument and the pro sanders argument. if mr. sanders becomes the democratic nominee, voters will have to choose from a right wing populist and a left wing populist who places business for everything that is wrong with the world. wake up, america, these are the brits telling us. now, here's "the new york times." at the end of the day sanders is the only day who can unite the anti-trump majority with his forceful attacks on corruption and bigotry. he can speak to the concerns about trump's character and personality that have alienated suburban whites and helped give the democrats the house of representatives. both theeof these things rang t to me. in a weird way they both rang true to me. >> we're in an unprecedented time, a great political party,

thecratic party, feels that it is making some fateful decisions here between are we going to acknowledge that we are interested in a socialist or social democrat future or are we going to stay kind of where we have been for the past 20 or 30 years. it's a big decision. it does have to do with left and right and with interesting coalitions. it is interesting to look at bernie. i saw his speech last night after biden won. bernie does not do happy warrior. he doesn't come forward and say we're going to fight and do all that stuff. i mentioned this to a young journalist. i said he doesn't do happy warrior. he said, you know, boomers like happy warriors. he's not going for boomers. >> i was just going to say, this is the barack obama issue with movement. is that fair? >> that's a good question. and you always see bernie

describe it as a movement. one of the things that was written there, though, when we peel back some of the results in south carolina, there's a big suburban vote yesterday, particularly in the charleston area. and what does that mean going forward? again, is south carolina unique? is it because of the relationship that it has with vice president biden? or does it tell us something going forward? it will be interesting to see. i don't know that we'll know for a while. >> turnout, it was good, not great. >> good, not great. it was better as 2016, not as strong as 2008. i did talk to democrats who said they were encouraged by the turnout. big question for candidates like buttigieg. what's the path? he couldn't name one state, chuck, on super tuesday that he thinks he could win. >> if i had more time i was going to ask specific congressional districts. they're not naming those either. >> not naming names. when we come back -- >> it's very important that the american people know that the infection to people in infection to people in this country remains low. as a small business owner,

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welcome back. the world health organization has raised its risk assessment of coronavirus to very high as the number of cases continue to grow. now to more than 86,000 confirmed cases around the world. nearly 3,000 people have died, mostly in mainland china. now the first american on u.s. soil, a man in his 50s in washington state who had underlying health conditions. uncertainty is already taking a toll on the economy. the dow had its worst week since the 2008 financial crisis, plummeting 12% for the week. this weekend the president blamed democrats and the media for exaggerating the threat, at

one point calling the virus their new hoax at a rally on friday night. on saturday, he tried to explain what he meant. >> the hoax referring to the action that they take to try to pin this on somebody, because we've done such a good job. the hoax is on them. >> i sat down with vice president mike pence, who is leading the administration's response effort and began by asking him about the american who died. >> well, it's a tragic loss. the man passed away. he was an individual we believe in his late 50s that also had some other high risk factors. but it doesn't take away from the tragedy. the encouraging news is that of the now 22 americans, including the man who sadly lost his life, the majority of them are recovering well. there are four that remain in serious condition and so we have -- we have this man's

family in our hearts and we'll keep all of those that are dealing with and working to recover in our prayers. >> do we have any information as to how this gentleman contracted the virus? we're working it. the process, chuck is that state and local officials are in the lead but in instances involving the coronavirus or any infectious disease, we have cdc on the ground immediately to assist and support, and they're working to identify it. but i think it's -- i think it's very important that the american people know that the risk of infection to people in this country remains low, and that is -- >> you keep saying it remains low and that's good news now. >> it is. >> but the virus is here now. >> it is. >> do you have this confidence that this is not going to continue to grow? >> well, there will be more cases, there's no question. but it's not my confidence, it

is the confidence of all of our health experts who are widely regarded as the best in the world that it's important that people in this country understand that while there are 46 americans that we brought home from china and 22 americans now sadly with one loss of life, that the vast majority of those people and the vast majority of any american that would contract the coronavirus will be treated -- >> in fairness, 1 out of 22 is scary, okay? that's not reassuring. it's reassuring that so few have gotten it. it's scary in the very few cases we have had, we already have a death. >> well, but let's be clear on this point. what our health experts have told me, since i was asked by the president to lead this effort this week, is that if president trump had not made the decision to suspend all travel from china into the united

states and establish a quarantine effort for people returning to the united states, we'd be in a very different place. >> many companies have decided to pause travel, even some domestically cancel some public events. is this something you would discourage or encourage? >> i think we've got to follow the facts on this. again, i want to say -- >> because some schools are being closed. one in washington state are closing for a day to scrub it. >> look, those are decisions -- i was a governor of the state of indiana. those are decisions that governors in consultation with local health officials will make as they deem that necessary. but other than in areas where there are individuals that have been infected with the coronavirus, people need to understand that for the average american the risk does remain low. we're ready. >> so you're going to continue to -- you're saying you think some of these companies perhaps

are defer, whether it's foreign travel for those companies and their employees or gatherings in various places around this country. look, it's a good time to use common sense this time of the year, even if the coronavirus wasn't a reality. but i think that what the president has told us to do on the task force, what he did when he initiated the suspension of all travel from china, the quarantining effort, is we're leaning into this effort. it's all hands on deck because our effort here is to do everything possible to prevent the spread of the coronavirus in the united states. >> so better safe than sorry. so ifsays we should shut down t school system for a week, you're not going to question that? >> i think the president would

respect any decisions that are made at the state and local level. but again, i think it's important -- >> you guys seem -- >> -- people follow the facts. >> you seem to be nervous or the president seems to be nervous that this is going to slow down economic activity unnecessarily. is that your concern here? >> well, look, the president's concern is the health and safety of the american people. i mean the fundamentals of this economy are strong. we just saw some new numbers come out in housing and consumer confidence and business optimism, unemployment is at a 50-year low. lower americans working than ever before. the fundamentals in this economy are strong. as the president said yesterday, we're going to focus on the health of the american people and this economy will -- and particularly the stock market that saw some downturns this week, it will come back. but our focus will remain on the health and well-being of the american people. >> you've gone out of your way since you've been appointed to

this to keep this from being politicized. you have made every effort, every statement. i want to play for you what some of your allies have said about the coronavirus. here's including the president's son and the rnc chair. take a listen, sir. >> the coronavirus is being weaponized. it is shameful, wrong, and i think unamerican. >> for them to try to take a pandemic and seemingly hope that it comes here and kills millions of people so that they could ending donald trump's streak of winning is a new level of sickness. >> none of this seems to match the facts. what facts are there that democrats are doing this? it seems like people are asking questions and are concerned about the virus. this implies some sort of political motivation, which is kind of gross. >> well, i will tell you there's been a lot of irresponsible rhetoric among democrats and

commentators on the left. >> name some names, sir. because this just feels like gas lighting. please name some names. we're all big people here. >> there was a column in "the new york times" by a prominent liberal journalist that said we should rename it the trump virus. >> does that apply to all people? >> so that the president would be blamed. chuck, this virus began in china. >> this doesn't help. this does not help us. >> the president took decisive action to protect the american people, and when you see voices on our side pushing back on outrageous and irresponsible rhetoric on the other side, i think that's important -- >> do you think this rhetoric from your side helps? >> i never begrudge people responding to unwarranted, unjustified attacks. but i promise you, we are going to continue to focus on the mission the president has given this task force and given this government, and that is we're going to bring the full resources of the federal

government to bear. and the american people -- the american people can be confident that we're going to continue to work this issue. we're going to work with leaders with both parties in congress to make sure not only our federal agencies have all the resources they need but our state and local governments, health care providers, have the resources and the support to provide the care that every american would want. remember, chuck, this is about the lives of the american people. >> and you can see my full interview with vice president pence on our website, meetthepress.com. when we come back, how big a threat is the coronavirus here in the united sta

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