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>> it's a false choice to make, sayinge1 that you either open t economy or everythingt( goes to hell. >> but then, mr. trump floats declaring a kwaunt. e quarantine because it's such a hot area ofe1 new york, new jersey, and connecticut. good before backing down. my guest this morning, dr. deborah birx of the white house coronavirus task force. governor john bell edwards of louisiana, and governor gretchen whitmer of michigan. >> also, first time unemployment i rñ we may be in a recession. >> and congress passes the biggest rescue package ever. how many more bailouts will we need? i'll have an interview with joe biden. joining me for insight ande1 analysis are andrea e1mitchell.

eugene robinson, carollpe1 lee, hugh hewitt. welcome to sunday and a special edition of "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, thew3 longest runni show in telephone history, this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck z]todd. >> good sunday morning. as you can see, once again, wee look a little different this week. this morning, and for thexd foreseeable future, i'll be anchorbi] mp from my home offic as we here at nbc news practice social distancing. two images illustrate the week we have just been fáthrough. these all nurses in hard-hit new york city wearing, yes, garbage bags, because personalñi protective gear is unavailable. and this graph illustrates the almost incomprehensible rise in first time unemployment claims to a record 3.3 million. on a week when the united states passed 120,000 cases of covid-19 and q2,000 deaths, when we apper to pass china and then italy for

thesufáu cases in the world, president trump offered americans mixed messages. early in the week, the president said he would like america to be open againe1 for business by easter. that the cure, he said, shutting down the economy could be worse than the disease. mr. trump seemed eager to play the role of optimist in chief leaving it to scientists and governors to own the hard news about shutdownsq and forced lifestyle changes. by th mr. trump's tone had changed. yesterday, he floated the idea of quarantined the new york city region before backing down. tuesday marks the end of president trump's 15-day coronavirus will he tighten them, loosen them, extend them? we shall/dsee. it's helpful to keep inñr mind what dr. anthony fauci said. you don't make the timeline, the virus makes the timeline. >> it's like a war zone. we're in a war with veryñi limid resources. >> a nation in crisis.

>> all the patients in this room, all that you see, they all have covid. >> doctors, nourishes, and firs1 responders are pleading for protective equipment. >> feels like i'm fighting anb k"t pumps, ventilators. >> i'm worried my patients will diexd alone, withoutt( the peop they love next to them. >> on friday, president trump signed a $2 trillion economic relief package and aftere1 week of mixed messages, used his power undere1 the defense production act to compel general motors to manufacture ventilators. but just 24xd hours earlier -- >> i don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. you know, you go into major hospitals sometimes, they'll have two ñijfventia:=im9>÷ now, all of a ey're saying cane1 we order 30,000 ventilators. >> with all due respect to him, he's not looking at the qfacts. >> mr. trump has attacked many of the governors who are pleading forñhm administration's help. >> i say mike, don't call the governor of washington. you are wasting your time with

him. don't call the woman in michigan. it doesn't make any difference what happens. >> more than 220 million people in 27 states under shelter in place t(orders. but earlier this week, the president floated a rosy timeline. >> i think easter sunday and you'll havei] packed churchesok over our country. i think it would be a beautiful time. >> before governors of both parties pushed back. >> of course, i want the economy back. but you know whatlpñi i want mo lester? i want them alive. >> i do not think south dakota will be back to normal for many months. >> willz( be listening to docto, physicians, lpscientists. >> and the president backed off his timeline onxd saturday, he floated a three-state quarantine. >> some people would like to see new york quarantined because it's a hote1 spot. >> before retreating again hours later. e1 continues to spread, the president is already declaring victory. >> the federal government has done a hell of a job. >> and arguing --

>> this was something nobody has ever thought could happen to thiáv country. >> but many experts did. and told the president so. in a national security council pandemic playbook, which the administration was briefedi] onn 2017, in a series of hhs simulation exercises called crimson contagion, conducted in 2019, which found the administration was not readye1 r the outbreak of a respiratory virus, and an intelligence agency warnin/y in january and february, while president trump and aides played down the threat, failing to ramp up testing until the virus had spread. >> did the cdc screw up or did you screwñi up? >> we did not screw up. >> where did thisk go wrong? >> i don't think cdc screws up either. nobody ever expected a thing like this. >> joining me now ist( the response kwouaunonse kwoirdinat coronavirus task force. welcome to "meet the press." let's start with the first question this way.

it took from february 29th to march 17th to get to 100 deaths. it took another nine dck& to gt to q1,000 fádeaths. sadly, it took 72 hoursñr to ge to q2,000 lpdeaths. dr. birx, where are we today? and where is this headed ine1 t next fewe1 weeks?t( >> well, this is the way pandemics work, and that's why we all are deeply concerned and why we have been raising the alert in all metrolp areasq and all states. no state, now3ñi metro area wil spared. and the sooner we react and the sooner the states and the metro areas react and insure that they have putxd in full mitigation a the same time understanding exactly what their hospitals forward together and protect the most americans. there's a new website up. it comes from chrisñi murray ou in washington state. it's on the ime website, imhe's website. it predicts, it looks at this,

billed as an infectious dirk!se model. >> i would love to take a look that. what part of this model, what is it telling you, and whatfá does and so that is still going on, and we do have enough tests ford that. the ofhgr piece of this is surveillance. so we're looking across the united states for counties that do have lower case numbers right now. to see what we can do right now in order to really put into

place full surveillance, full contact tracing, anu full diagnostic capacity to insure that cases are fou.ep and we contact en%ñ while it's not enough for us to get materials to warehouses. we have toñr be working with th state and local governments comprehensively to insure that equipment and supplies are

getting to each hospital. hospitals are so busy taking care of the people who are ill, they can't beh$ñending time doingi] inventory. we need to help and support that. >> well, that appears to actually be a problem, and look, i'm curious, what role do you play in-, deciding where spare ventilators go versus the role fema e1plays? and the reason i ask that is there seems to be some confusion, governorse1 are complaining they find themselves either bidding against other states or the federal government. uhen it comes to different equipment issues. so is the federal governmentq going to take over all procurement and dispersement of medical equipment or f1not? >> i think at this moment, we're asking every single governor and every single mayor tol like new york isñr preparing no. know where every hospital is, public, private. know where every one of your surgical centers are. know how to change the

anesthesia ventilators to take care of people. know where every pieceq of equipment in theñrñi state is, how to move the equipmesó. the one thing we can do as americans is we know howoki] to inovatd. it's noti just what you have each city will have its own epidemic curve, and so weñi can mnae between states. we can move within states to me meet the needs of everyone. >> you sort of overlooked the question, puuy about is the federal government going to take over at least the procuj]q and the distribution of things going forward? >> well, i think the federal government right now is working very hard on looking at where all the ventilators are ande1

where production can be. but we need states at the same time toe1 look where all of the ventilators are.e1 including e1outpatient surgical center, which is a?; really important place to be doéking, because you get staff plus ventilator."'-they have also th cardiac monitoring, being able to monitor oxygen levels. all of that can come into the hospitals to care for patients. both of thosefá pieces need to come togethers. the government looking to increase procurement and states looking for every single option they have. >> new york city, if you could quarantine the tristate area, and there's a lot of legal hurdles to that, if you fácould do you think it would be the best wayfá to slow this virus fá >> when we looked at what nevd31 york state and what the mayor and governor did over the last ten days, when those alerts went out of thee1 increased number o infections, a lot ofjf people w could leave new york left new

york. and so we immediately saw cases rising out on long island and cases rising in southern florida. what we're trying to say toi]ñi everyone is when this virus comes to your metro area, please stay in your metro area wheree1 your care can be provided, because it's spreading virus more quickly around the united states. >> should we be shutting down domestic air travel? i understand you need to move airplanes forñi supplies, for peoplexde1 q environments, but should there be some domestic air travel shut down? it doesñr seem odd that new yor city airports are wide open for people to leave. >> the amazing thing to me, and what has been so heartening to me,nd when ixd work on epidemics around the globe, it's seeing communities come together. and communities have self-quarantined and self-isolated themselves. the ymamount of air travel in out of new york we believe isok

down by 90%. metro down by more than 90%. so people are using common sense to protect others. we also havee1 to be able to mo doctors and nurses around the united states. they're part of our surge tpcap. you can see many have come forward as volunteers, and we need to be able áo get them places. >> aret-áu going to announce the new guidelines -- given everything you have just said, given no metro area is going to be spared at this point right now, that's your concern, should we assume these 15-day guidelines are going to get extended another 15 days, through thexd end of april? what's realistic,e1 dr. birx? >> what i wanted to be very clear on is everye1 metro area should assume that they could have an outbreak equivalent to new york, and do everything right now to prevent it. if they mitigate now, before they start seeing casesxd inw3 emergency room and in the hospital, once you see those, the virus has been spreading for

days toxd weeks. so this is really my call on every mayor toñrñi prepare now. >> soq it sounds like thesei] w extended at least another couple weeks. is that fair? as americansq are watching, should they be prepared to be ç 0unkering down for the reste1 april? >> my job today is to put all the data together,i] theñ integrated data ofe1 testing, ce reporting, the global situation, for the pr president so they have all the? data took makeq the decision ths best for theñi american people. >> so are you -- what is your recommendation? what recommendation are you going to be giving to them or are you not sharing that with us? >> i'm going to share it withlp the president and vice president first. >> all right. dr. birx, i will leave it there. stay safe. stay healthy. and we're all wanting to defeat

this as soon as possible. thanks for your i]kufrbs. >> thank you. >> and joining me now arexì(lc governors of two states thatt( have seen an alarming rise in covid-19 cases. governor gretchen whitmer of michigan and governor john bel edwards of louisiana. governors, welcome to both of you. governor edwards, i solemnly want to start with you. sadly, you had to report that you had a staffer die from coronavirus last fánight. i just figured i would let you say a quick word about that. >> well,e1 2( april was a tremendous asset to louisiana. she was$8y valuable member of or team, someone that i was actually personally friendse1 wh and had gone to church with. and she diedt( last evening abo 6:00. andq this should be a reminder o everyone just how serious, howe deadly covid-19 is. andeo:uz need to do everything that we canr sprd,nd save lives.

and you know, that's my message to the people of louisiana today. >> governor whitmer, let me start with you, tell me the situation in detroit specifically right now and where michigan is today. >> our numbers are climbing we took aggressive measures. we have been on the front end of aggressive measures that states have been taking, but weñi see thislp astronomical rise. we have hospitals that are already at capacity. we're running out of ppe as well. i'm grateful we got a shipment from fema yesterday for 112,000 n-95 masz , but you know, 7ç going to be in dire straits again in a matter of days so we're keeping up the pressure and working 24/7 at the state level, and grateful that there are people who are doing that at the federal level as well, but this is not something that we on. it should be everyone fighting covid-19. everyonexd versus covid-19.

>> governor edwards, give me th1 orn particular, i think a lot of folks are concerned about some of the rural communitiesçó of louisiana. how quickly do you fear that your system could ámy overwhelmed? >> well, we have the coronavirus now and cases in 56 of our 64 parishes. so while the hott( spot is down around new orleans, it is state-wide. we know that if we don't flatten the curve, we'ree1 on a trajecty currently to exceed our capacity in the new orleans area for ventilators by about april 4th.k

we have been doing thatt( for my days here in qlouisiana. we're in+wztorying all of our health care clinics in various settings to find any breathing device that can be used as a ventilator. perhaps it has to be retrofitted or modified in some way. we have emt type ventilatou that really aren't designed to be used in hospitals but they

can be if necessary. we're alsoóom trying to see if there are certain ventdilators that could service more than once patient atjfp time dependig on their acuity oklevel. we're doing everything we can, but we have only been able to procure 192 ventilators over the last several weeks when we had about 12,000 on e1order. >> governor whitmer, you seem to imply late in the week that you thought the federal government or perhapsçó president trump wa punishing michigan in your attempts to procure differente1 medical items. do you have any -- do you still believe that iseqdhappening? or do you believe that you were mistaken? >> no, you know, here'sfáq what said. what we are doing is placing all of these orders. we are contracting, we're trying to procure this, in addition to the help we needxd from thet( federal government. and like massachuseá[s, like new york, like california, like places all across the country,

we're bidding against one another. jp pritzk[2÷ of illinois aboveod ì÷%at same thin#p then we get a notice it's being directed to the federal government. i think that's a frustration there's not enough ventilators. we need thousands of ventilators in michigan. there's not enough n-95 masks. we have got nurses who are you know, we've got to slow the spread, and that's why, you know, the stay-at-home orders asking people to do their part, people need to understand the seriousness of this issue. it's a novel virus with no cure, no vaccine, highly contagious and deadly.çó no one is immune from this + o!%9 that's why staying at home and keeping the virus from being transmitted from person to person is really the best tool we have. but we've got to keep workingto get all of these other pieces of equipment, and when we're

bidding against one another, it's creating a lot ogñxd frustration and concern. and that's exactly what i was trying to 5aconvey. and same thing that's been conveyed by others on both sides of the aisle. >> governor whitmer, i'm just curious. the president seemed to direct vice president pence to not call you, not talk to you. but vice president pence is talking to you. is yourx> you r the federal level and the state level, the states across the country, are working xd24/7.e1 this is a challenge. this is a moment where the enemy is covid-19.e1 it's not one another, and that's why i'm grateful for the c c1 partnership we've gotten. i have talked%' the vice president a number of times, we're working everyone from the white house on down through fema, dhs, the army corps ofc engineers, because it's got to be all hands on deck.

we are not one another's enemies. thenú enemy is the virus. and it is spreading, and it is taking american lives. that's precisely why we governors are banding together where we cant( to try to make se that we are organized, we are learning best practices from one another, sharing information, and we're protecting the people of our states. >> governor whitmer of michigan, governor edwards of louisiana, again, our condolences for your staffer,q april dunn, there, governor edwards. good luck,ñi stay safe, stay healthy. and as you guys said, we're all and as you guys said, we're all in this togt@er. to be most successful, connectivity is vital. verizon, really for us, has been a partner for years. allows us to stay connected to our 80 plus locations across the country.

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welcome back. just consider all that's happened since the last time we had former vice president joe biden one1 "meet the press." back way back on march 1st, biden dominated the super tuesday primaries and beyond. he won 17 states and basically wrapped up the democratic nomination. more than 2,000 americans, though, have died from the coronavirus. 3.3 million people filed for first-time unemployment claims, and the government just had to pass a $2 trillion plus rescue package. but throughout the coronavirus pandemic, biden has struggled td make his voice heard. he joiua me now from his home studio in wilmington, delaware. mr. vice president, from home studio to home studio, well coomb taone of the more odder appearances ofmh1 "meet the pre" thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with a simple question here. let's set aside president trump's rhetoric. is there an action he has not taken that you would be taking right now if you were president? >> yeah, i would be doing two

things at least.e1 one, i would make sure that he uses the defense production act, not only to deal with the issue of whether or not there are ventilators but i would do the same thing for masks and gowns ande1 masks and shields, all of the things that our first t( responders and our doctors and nurses need. why are we waiting? we know they're needed. they're going to be increasingly needed. you just heard the president's spokesperson talk about the e1 increasing need, and so i would be moving rapidly(ñ i would alsoñi be talking about what the next stage of the funding we're going to need. 7"á have gone through three stages. that's not going to be enough to getks) all the way through this. there's a number of things i would be doing that areq not being done right now. >> you know, it's interesting. one ofi] the things you have yi, theok scientists you have spoke to havee1 indicated qçórealisti, we're looking at june at the earliest to evening think about opening back up. that's a stark difference than the warnings we'rer you're certainly hearing

occasional governor will say that. dr. fauci might say that, but you don't hear a consistent message nationally. how would you convey that to the american people, basicallyeì(lc telling them, another 60 days of home confinement? that's a lot to ask of the american public. >> look, the american public is really strong and tougá&x the first thing we should do is listen to the scientists. secondly, we should tell them the truth. the unvarnished truth. the american people have never shied away from being able to deal with the truth. the worst thing you can do is raise false expectations andxd watch them getw3 dashed. then they begin to lose confidence in the e1leadership. so we should just tell the trutr as best wea5 know it. as best the scientists know it. we shoulgñxd let them speak. power right now to deal with being able to confine the spread of this disease. for example, we need significantly more testing kits ( they should be -- we should be rushing the supply of those all

over the country. it's gotten better. it's gotten better, but look what'se1 happening here. you have nursesw3 showing up wearing garbage bags over their bodies as protection. i mean, we need to get them the help they need right away. we know there's going to be more ql"t!ut icu my.%)rás.ilators going to be more need for beds,w et cetera. we should be telling the american people the truth. they're strong. they'll get through it. they have never let their li again, to tell the truth.e1 for example, i didn't believeq t to be criticism, just a straightforward response. iñi argued several weeks ago,i]

should be using the defense production act. it was there. i have been arguing for it for some time. ifñi if i see something that's t happening, i think it's my obligation t$d step up and say this is what we should be doing, rather than, look, the coronavirus is not the president's fault, but the slow response, the failure to get going right away, the inability toúqf the things that need to be done quickly, they are things that can't okcontinue. we're going to go through another phase of this, and we have to be ahead of the curve, >> i think that's ae1 little to harsh. i think what's happening ise1 t failure to, as i watched a preli 8uz your show, wherew3

someone said, used the phrase that the president just thinks out loud. he should stop thinkinóá out ld and start thinking deeply. he should start listening to the scientists before he speaks. he should listen to the health experts. he should listen to his economists. for example, the united states congressr piece of legislation to help deal with the incredible financial crunch that's going to affe$,ñ workingfáe1 families an families, the whole economy. so we should be right now thinking about howxd that's for most of the employees. you should focus on making sure we're in a situation where we're able to see to it that unemployment benefits can get to people. what is the irs doing toq get te $1200 checks to people? that's where the focus should be and it should befá laser focuse. >> would you lift sanctions on

iran temporarily during this pandemic? >> i don't have eno5t÷ information about the situation in iran right now, and i'm not sure there's any evidence whether or not that'sr across the board in all 50 states and territories, i'm not sure yet. $wthink we can make thate should be beginning to plan that in each of our states. i think you have -- anyway, there's some legislation in the

senate that suggests that. i think it's worth looking at quickly. >> is there a point where bernie sanders is no longer playing a productive role in this democratic primary? >> well, y1look. bernie sanders hasñi poured his heart and soul intonis campaign. he's moved thee1 ballñ1 along o number oft( issues that relate what government's responsibilities are, and i think it's up to bernie to make thew3 judgment whether or not h should stay in the race or not stay in the race. it's not by judgment to make for him. i think he's had a real impact. he's brought a lot of people into the process that weren't in it before. i thinkñr it's ae1 tough decisi for berniee1 to make. >> you had said you hope toñrñr improve your job rating, your rating of the president.q what do you make of the fact that the president's job rating has bumped up during this crisis? 3 çrñwell, i think, you know, i think that's a typical american response. in every single crisis we have had that i have beenq around,

going back to jimmy carter and the hostages all the way through to thise1 moment, presidents' ratings have always gone up in a crisis, but that old expression, the proof is going to be in eating the pudding. what's it going to look like? i hopexd we're in a situation going intoko the fall where th is under control, where we have done all the right things and things are beginning to move and the president is listening to the scientists and stopping the personale1u attacks on people disagree with him, and let's get away from the childishness of this and focus oásnblp the pro. >> you feel a little bit frustrated and powerless right now? >> no, you know, it's interesting. we have ajf e1makeshift studio in my basement, i guess like you're doing it now as well, but the point is that i was surprised toe1 find out just th events we didxd this past week, mean, beginning last monday over 20e1 million people have viewed

them and listened. so you know,e1 i guess it's jusa different way of learning how to communicate with people and whar you'rexd concerned about and wh you would do if you were in the president's situation. >> all right. >> there's some frustration.fá >> mr. vice president, from your home studio -- i can imagine -- especially somebody whoi] loveso hug hisi] grandkids. >> the grandkids stillq comeñi r and stand outside the house and wave. thank you. >> nice. excellent to hear. thank you. whax we come back, a week of mixed messageseherom president trump. panel is next. i'm phil mickelson. that's me long before i had psoriatic arthritis. i've always been a go-getter and kinda competitive. flash forward, then psoriatic arthritis started getting the better of me. and my doctor said my joint pain could mean permanent joint damage. and enbrel helps relieve joint pain, helps stop that joint damage, plus helps skin get clearer. ask about enbrel so you can get back to being your true self.

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welcome back. the panel is wix us from some secure and healthy undisclosed locations. well, some are disclosed. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitc("f&. "washington post" columnist eugene 76orobinson, carol lee, hugh hewitt. apd ria, let me start with you. here's what ixd learned, i thin from dr. birx. number one, things are going to gett( worse in every metro arean the country, so hunker down.fá

number two, i'm note1 prepared tell you my recommendations yet, but clearly new recommendations are coming. and number three, go find as a

which is an emergency health declaration, but a travel warning, not a firm i]order. that said, ixd alsoe1 think tha what we're going to see is a reluctance to have fema take control. you twice asked dr. birx whether or not the government should be doing this and rationalizing it. we'rexd reading about huge conflicts between the i]cdc and it's still not being communicated well, and someone has to take charge so you don't have a florida governor like ron desantis who is an ally of the government, and whoset(5a phonl probably started the emergency quarantine, when it was this governor who let the beachesçó p filled with spring breakers. individual governors seem to have better access. >> carol lee, it does seem as if the quarantine back and forth yesterday and this issue about who takes the lead in finding ventilators, whatever you want to callxd it, it's a choke poin.

whatever it is between the states and the feds, we have gok to -- we haven't un from your interview with dr. birx they don't have an answer to this problem yet.

>> yeah. chuck, it seems toi] me that,t( know, what vice presidente1 pen and dr. birx and dr. fauci andj the task force isñr doing, the federal task force, is vitally important. it's been aw3 little bumpy gettg reallyé@ taking off. but the statu)s really needçó w the task force is doing. )q president is doing seems to me to be ñiincreasingly irrelevant and counterproductive. i mean, the sort of pronouncements that are then taken back or they just fall away. so whether he wants to open&h(l% everything up again or not on tuesday, it's kind of irrelevant. the governors aren't going to do that. i thinklpe1 americans realize, now, they have a deep understanding of what's going on and what's at stake and what i don't think anybody isfá rari to get out there againxd on e1

wednesday. oj hugh hewitt, this is the time when i think someone like you or others would be saying, you get a retired general, remember general honore, ]%%mñhonore, he ran down in the gulf area. it feels lik"1 there needs to b a take-charge personality here when itxd comes tot( the procurt issue. átip)ge 3"%sonality is the president. president. eugene isv' i'm very impressed with andrew cuomo. i'm very impressed with gavin newsom, with mike dewine.o#(p&h% the people i'm not impressed with, i'm not going toe1 spend time slamming. i'm impressed with people who g leadership. they're not always going to ber right, but i also like the fact, the person i'm eo+t impressed with, mostfáñi auc%9m won't ha heard it, benny gantz. he's the israeli political leader who stepped back and laid down his ambitions to serve the common good in israel and joined

i think that's the moment we're in, where people havfr to lay aside their partisan differences and work. i must say, vice president bi÷e really impressed me byfá modeli the best answer most people can give. i don't have the information to answer the question you asked, chuck. i thought, way to go, mr. vice president. if you get asked a question, don't shoot from the hip. i think most people need to hear that message. >> carol lee. >> well, chuck, one of the things that we have seen, talking to administration and then the other thing they want to do, and we should keep an eye on this, because this 15-day deadline is coming up, and there's people around the president who are really urging him not to setxd another sort o deadlinee1 like that. he mentioned easter. you saw them try to walk that back. the vice president and others saying that's aspirational.

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welcome back. it has been interesting to watc( this campaigne1fá sort of go on hiatus. you heard the vice presidentt( there talk about theç!ñimprovin poll numbers for president trump. hugh hewitt, the fox poll is a lot like a lot of the other polls i have seen this week, where you see two things happening at the same e1time. the president's numbers going up, highest job approval -- he

2)eed the highest job approval rating he's evñrt had in the fo poll at 48%. but trails biden by nine points in the head-to-head on that one% who should feel better aboutñi which poll number, hugh hewitt, joe biden orw3 donald trázáñ >> i think president trump will look at "the washington post" poll this morning and be very, very lappy. i also don't think anyone should focus on the polls. it's going to change so dramatically. america has a hell of a kick, chuck. you know that. like eric lidell in thejf charis of fire movie. we're just gearing up. if the country does what i think it's doing, this armyçó9ez responders, this surge of helpfulness, i think the president will benefit from that because the country is coming together to fight this invisible enemy. >> gene robinson? >> yeah, i want to agree with hugh hewitt. i do think the country is gearing up in a very important way. the oldq bible verse, weeping mn

endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning. ijf think we must realize theres a joyful morning on the other side of this, and i thin,p that the country, once it gets in gear, i think will hopefully do better than it nowfá looks toe1 contain this epidemic. >> andrea. >> and chuck, i think that is true, that the president is benefitting for all the twists and turns and what may seem like he's thinking out loude1 too mu. he is doing things like going to the ship yesterday, and thatfá s a totally unnecessary photo op, but he has that power of e1 incumbency,c and people need th1 reassurance, and people are seeing it. i think it's going to continue to rise. it is frustrating for joe biden because coming from his basement is a lot harder to do. >> you know, carolehñlee, jimmy carter ran a rosei] garden xd strategy. it was known at the time. william mckinley ran a front

court strategy back in 1896. while joe biden is like the mckinley campaign in '96. donald tzá?p like carter here. everybody running their own front porch campaign with the and one of the challenges that they're having right now is you have a president who hasn't really figured out what kind of leader he wantsçó to be. doesk4ñq want to be the war-tim president or does he want to be donald trump. we saw a lot of donald trump inf his combativeness and pushinglp back and saying things that weren't necessarily true. and where he goes from there, whether they can pull him back and try to get him to do what they would like him to do,w3 whh

is to be more presidential, will really hinge on how this plays out for him politically. >> hugh hewitt, what is the bigger danger there? the president picking silly fights with governors that look off key or the president not feeding his base these sort of pugilistic nature that they have grown to love? i get in the president's head, that's whatñ1 he's concerned about. >> the biggest danger is not to ñ as he appears to be taking it. not to step back from the podium. go out there every night. of course, vice president pence is a great balance, but he hasl to continue to be the stronge1 presence in the press room he's been. because america at this time, as after 9/11, as after pearl crisis for the world. we have to lead not just america, the world, i think his biggest danger is stepping back. he has to lean into ñrit. he's been doing that, and i'm happy about it. quickly.

>> this time, i'm going to disagree with my friend hugh. i think the president does need to step back from the podium. i think hist( appearances shoul be less frequent and briefer and less rambling. let the scientists do it everyç1 day. lety1 vice president pence do i. theeq$t)esident doesn't need too that every day. >> yout( guys were a terrific i have to stop you, but you guys were as well behaved as you can be on these remote settings. thank you very much. thank you for your patience, guys. and for the social distancing. that's all we have for today. thank you for watching out mjut you're staying healthy. i hopeo7b you're practicing thi social distancing. ñi this, the sooner the better. uáu)u$ the new nightly light show at the empire state building. it's designed to lift the tpspi piece. we'll be back next week, because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."e1

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