things the president has done using the defense production act. there's over 30 actions we've taken. a lot of them related to testing. i think the posterchild for that was a dpa title 3 that we did that got gilford maine, and upping the production of swabs to 20 million a month. those are the things we're doing and we're fighting using the dp on all fronts. we're using the defense >> the situation is dire. production act in cocomo, >> the u.s. reaches 5 million confirmed covid cases. >> come into my icu. indiana, nobody will ever, ever come watch. do better than that. patients and families are crushed. >> that say huge toll to take where is that urgency for testing. every day knowing that you're >> pardon me? >> where is the urgency for testing? that's the point here. the only person and may be the >> i'll give you another last person that speaks to them. example. >> selective instances. >> while president trump >> we are issuing grants to mach continues to deny the tragedy sure we get point of care virus he's overseeing. >> it will go away. things go away. testing. this, to me, is going to be the absolutely. no question in my mind it will go away. gamechanger where right now congress deadlocked.

we've got two types, right? >> this morning was a we've got a lab test that takes disappointing -- i don't care what rose they try to pin on it. a number of days which is not >> with millions losingfailing optimal. it's highly accurate and we have the i.d. now of abbott which agreement. >> we did not ma orders he clai takes 15 to 20 minutes and we're help those in need. my guest, peter navarro, expanding that reach and we have democratic whip dick derby and a point of care that's like a pregnancy test where you can do doctor from johns hopkins it at your home. chuck, we are working 24/7 on university. the coronavirus in the classroom and the debate over opening these things and they've made great progress on therapeutics. schools. >> we talk to a principal, a this president is going to teacher and a school nurse on probably be able to get one or opening schools in the age of a more vaccines by the end of the year. that's a third of the time it pandemic. and decision 2020. usually takes in using a defense tangled up in blue. how the electoral map has production act. so i'll get you -- i'll shifted with just 12 weeks to go personally send you a copy of before election day. this report when it comes out. you tell me afterwards whether and analysis are msnbc anchor joshua we've done a lot using that dpa, but it's the most rapid johnson. kasie hunt, and rich lowry, industrial mobilization in this country since world war ii. >> and i think there are a lot editor of national review. of people that hear your welcome to sunday. enthusiasm and want to see you it's "meet the press." use it even more, but dr.

>> from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in navarro, i want to leave the television history, this is conversation there, thank you "meet the press" with chuck todd. for coming on and sharing the good sunday morning. administration's perspective. i appreciate it. >> yes, sir. it's easy, even dangerous, to joining me now is dick durbin of illinois. become numb to the scope of the coronavirus tragedy that's all welcome back to "meet the around us. press." i want to start with something yesterday the united states hit a total of 5 million cases. peter navarro just said. that is 2 million more than he said in negotiations one side brazil which is second in the world in cases. has one number, and he said there needs to be something in we've also passed 160,000 the middle, and when i heardwel deaths, 163,028 this morning and sounds like potential pove to the university of washington's model projects the toll could roughly double to 300,000 by the the middle because that doesn't first of december, but let's put seem to be what just tell you, that 160,000 figure into a little bit of perspective. if that is the standard we've that's about 40% more than the not only accepted it, we've total number of americans killed offered it. we were 3.4 trillion dollars in in world war i. it is nearly triple the number the bill that nancy pelosi and of americans killed from the house democrats passed 12 weeks ago. 12 weeks ago, and now we've come vietnam, and if that yfrunivers down to the range of 2 trillion. of washington figure is connect we would have passed the battle they were at a trillion. we asked them to come up to a deaths from world war ii all in

trillion and it does exactly less than one calendar year. what mr. navarro suggested. here's another perspective. over the past two weeks we've we are ready to meet the white house and the republicans half way. suffered one death from covid-19 we've said that from the start. every 77 seconds. we have priorities that may be president trump continues to insist as he put it, it will go away like things go away and different from theirs and in terms of the dollar when pressed in an interview recently mr. trump added they are dying, that's true. suggested. >> i'm concerned about the president's authority to do it is what it is. these things in order to get the yes, it is what it is, and what courts to look at it, do you think congress ought to file it is is a once in a century suit on, for instance, the crisis made worse bipartisan politics, testing mistakes, evolving advice. payroll tax eo or the a public too quick to ignore unemployment eo? >> this is a moral dilemma. safety guidelines and a president who chosen to we want unemployed people to dismiss and distract for far too receive benefits. we never wanted them cut off at long. adding to that, washington seems more paralyzed than usual, all. so i'm not going to suggest we deadlocked on a relief packagee run out to court at this point. himself has refused to meet with i think some will. there will be some challenges. negotiators personally, to step this country club fix suggested in late yesterday and attempt to by the president will be a cut sidestep congress. in the unemployment benefits for >> executive action. 30 million americans. we've had it. it's either going to be cut from >> president trump signing a 600 to 400 or from 600 to zero series of executive orders after his own negotiators failed to where it is right now if the

president's executive orders make a deal. >> it wases a disappointing don't stand. the bottom line is this, these meeting. >> this morning was people are not lazy people. disappointing and i don't care what rose they try to pin on it, we have five unemployed it's got a lot of thorn. americans for every available >> we did not make any progress job. this urban legend which i say is today. >> with a nation in crisis. >> what's at stake for my family an urban lie about people is being able to stay who we sitting at home bingeing on netflix and eating are, being able to maintain the chocolate-covered cherries. life that we have. i've met with these families and >> the limited actions are likely to be challenged in court they're desperate to go back to as president trump takes on powers constitutionally granted work, and they've taken a cut to wages below the unemployment to congress. >> maybe they'll bring legal benefits and they want back in actions, maybe they won't, but the job and they understand they won't win. unemployment is a temporary >> 30 million americans are set helping hand. to miss another benefits check so this notion that they're lazy and if they tried harder they'd this week an eviction moratorium find jobs just doesn't work. expired last month for millions >> want to put up a comment from more the small paycheck a house democrat who is in a protection program lapsed on saturday and some student loan relief will expire at the end of swing district and listen to what he said yesterday. september. president trump's action sets a weekly unemployment benefit at representative tom malinowski of $400. >> why did you decide on $400 new jersey, a first-term democrat, he warned a lack of an agreement would prompt his when previously families were voters that congress is broken

receiving $600. that will be a hardship. and washington is broken and >> this is not a hardship and that is great for challengers, he added. this gives them a great incentive to go back to wok. the question is do you feel pressure that you have to cut a >> state, many dealing with budget gaps and pleading for more federal support must deal even if you don't like what you're getting? contribute 25% in order for do you worry that the democrats americans to qualify. >> which governors have told you are taking too hard of a line that they would sign on? >> well, if they don't, they here and at some point you have don't. to move mo that's up to them. >> chuck, that's the nature of a >> among the new orders, deferring payroll tax for those negotiation. you have to give a little to get earning $100,000 a year and a a little and that's what it move opposed by many democrats boils down and look what and republicans suggesting happened on march 26th and march federal agencies consider some 16th when we passed a cares act. eviction protections and deferring student loan payments. 96-0, bipartisan and we now have the constitution does not give 20 republican senators who said the prto either not a penny. appropriate or tax without zero. nothing at this point, and we have mitch mcconnell, the congress. president trump once promised to be a dealmaker. republican leader who is not >> i'm different than other even attending the negotiating presidents. i'm a dealmaker. >> i do hundreds of deals. the deals come out of my ears. sessions and same thing with kevin mccarthy, the house you have to do deals. we don't want to do the republicans and look at the first priority and the first executive orders all of the time. priority, of course is it wasn't supposed to be about unemployed and even higher than executive orders. like tip o'neal and ronald that is doing something

reagan, you have to bring them together. correctly about the coronavirus. >> with the two sides trillions when i heard mr. navarro with of dollars apart on a package his talk about testing i'm which should include money for thinking are you in touch with schools, reopening, for virus the real world? the fropresident has been sayin testing and aid to cities and for weeks and maybe months, if states. >> i say come back when you're ready to give a higher number. >> at his golf club this weekend you test you can get it. that wasn't even possible and you'll have the same instant the president spun the facts both on the economy, for 20 results of testing that he does straight weeks unemployment claims have topped 1 million with white house visitors and that isn't the real world out shattering historical records. here. the people waiting in line for >> the single three-month period of job creation in american testing and they're waiting for results from five to 12 days history. >> and on the virus. >> a pandemic which is which makes them almost pointless. that is a priority for us. disappearing. it's going to disappear. testing to deal with the coronavirus is key to opening >> and joining me now is peter economy and opening our schools. >> right. navarro. final question with a little he is the director of trade and manufacturing policy. democratic politics. ha also the national defense i want to put up this tweet from production act coordinator. david axelrod and you know him, dr. navarro, welcome back to "meet the press" and i want to longtime chief strategist for start with something the chief president obama, an illinois guy of staff said on friday. these days, and he says this, i take a listen, sir. can't remember any vp selection >> we're going to take executive process where so much research orders to try to alleviate some has been dumped. if i were joe biden looking for of the pain that people are a good and loyal partner that

should be a source of concern. experiencing. this is not a perfect answer. david axelrod didn't imply who we'll be the first ones to say was behind this, but there has that, but it is all that we can been a lot of negative stuff do and all the president can do within the confines of his dropped on a couple of candidates, susan rice and karen executive power. bass in particular. are you concerned about how all >> so is this an this looks? >> i am concerned, but not acknowledgement? do you agree with the chief of staff that this is not enough? surprised, chuck. this is the political world we that this is a small amount here live in. it never was bean bag. and in order to do more that's it's always been a tough game, necessary you still have to work but it's gotten much worse over with congress? >> he didn't say it was a small the last several years. amount, chuck. the level of preposterous claim, what he said was it's not the charges that have been enough. what we've got here is the thrown and they've gone out of sight, lock her up, lock her up, president taking action on four for goodness sakes. fronts to help four discreet that goes way beyond anything groups. so you have the payroll tax cut any of us have seen in which is effectively a presidential campaigns and that is the nature of this business and those who stick with it and substantial wage hike for americans who have their jobs. my colleague, tammy duckworth, for goodness sake, she's all, you have a plus up for workers who are on the unemployment but an american hero for what she's given to this country and lines. you've got relief for renters there have been those on and single-family homeowners so right-wing television shows that have criticized her as not being they don't become homeless and

you have, for our young people worth of consideration for this office. that to me shows extremes that have this crushing burden of student loan. you have relief and those are they'll reach. >> dick durbin, i'm going have four, targeted solutions and to leave it there and the that will help deal with the pain. it's unfortunate that we have democrat from illinois, senior not yet got a deal, but in the senator from illinois. thanks for coming on and sharing your perspective. absence of that president donald >> thanks, chuck. >> you got it. when we come back, progress j. trump is acting on behalf of the american people. >> i want to ask you about these provisions. some of them look legally dubious here. are you confident -- what gives you confidence that the president has the power to decide when to postpone the collection of taxes? >> well, one of the things i learned here, chuck, at the white house going through a lot of work on executive orders is what we have the statutory authorities to do, and i'm confident that every single one of those orders which cleared through the office of legal counsel will stand up. if you look, for example, at the this year, the alzheimer's association eviction and foreclosure walk to end alzheimer's is everywhere.

language in your opener there on every sidewalk, track, and trail across this country. you noted the words shall consider. that's how you have to write it, all of us are raising funds for one goal: but everybody knows in that bure ok ras they you damn well should a world without alzheimer's and all other dementia. because this disease isn't waiting, neither are you. do it and you will. the payroll tax cut, we clearly take the first step on your walk right now. h had the authority to do that and that could be done easily go to alz dot org slash walk. through the treasury defendapar and i would note in 2012 nancy we're all doing our best to keep each other safe. pelosi was a strong supporter of the payroll tax cut and barack at walmart, despite everything that's changed, obama used bonds funding to make one thing hasn't, sure that the social security was not harmed in any way and and that's our dedication to you and our communities. president trump, there's nothing more strongly than he supports we're working together, in-store and online, is the integrity of social security. through pickup and delivery, so each of these provisions to safely get you the essentials you need. work. it's unfortunate that these ♪ negotiations to date have failed, but look, this should be easier than it is, chuck. we have two sides and ones that want one trillion and the others want 3 trillion and the first it's called ubrelvy. thing is agree on some number in the migraine medicine for anytime, between and step two is figure

out within that what you both anywhere migraine strikes without worrying agree on something like a $1200 if it's too late or where you happen to be. check to every american and then one dose of ubrelvy can quickly stop a migraine what you do -- >> right. in its tracks within two hours. >> you trade off and go back and many had pain relief in one hour. forth across the table what you want respecting each other's red do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. lines. you don't make the republicans play for planned parenthood or few people had side effects, most common were nausea and tiredness. platforms, for example, this should be easy. ask about ubrelvy. the question we've had watching the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine. this unfold. the question the president has is whether the democrats really are sincere when they come to the table, and i'm not sure -- it doesn't help when speaker >> welcome back. as we mentioned earlier we had 5 pelosi goes out after every day million u.s. cases yesterday. for some perspective, the first with scarfs flying and beats the covid-19 case in the united heck out of us for being cruel states is believed to have occurred on february 6th. people. >> let me follow up. we hit 1 million cases on april >> go ahead. >> no, let me ask you this, 28th. where is the president? why was he at his golf club all 82 days later. it then just took 43 days to hit weekend? the 2 million mark on june 10th. why isn't he negotiating? look, i understand you guys we hit the 3 million mark on don't like each other and nancy july 7th and that was 27 days pelosi -- well, where is he? later and just 16 days later we why isn't he involved? >> you have to understand this reached 4 million u.s. cases on

is the hardest-working president in history. july 23 d ard and again, it too he works 24/7. he could be in bedminister and just 16 days to hit this 5 million reported case number right here in the united states. joining me now is dr. tom mar-a-lago and he could be at the whirlpool factory like we were thursday celebrating inglesby of the johns hop kens working men and women. the problem here is capitol hill, the swamp. the two houses that are too far scho you put out a list of ten apart. recommendations. the lord and the founding fathers created executive orders you guys didn't call it a reset, how do we get control of this because of partisan bickering and divided government. virus now? ago one of your sort of that's what we have here, but colleagues in the larger sense the president has taken clear. his constituency is mainstream michael osterholm is calling for a reset of some sort "new york republicans and blue collar times" today editorial page and he took calling for this. action. officials are calling for some he didn't have to -- he could sort of reset, partial lockdowns have just let this keep going, and things like this and yet we and he did not. are not having that conversation he took action, action, action at all on the political side of and action. >> you -- okay. things. are we doomed to sort of live you outlined how a negotiation with this virus now if we're not

going to at all look at your recommendations? works and you did something very interesting. you said the democrats are 3 >> i don't think we're doomed to trillion and the republicans are this fate. i think we know what to do. other countries have done it. 1 trillion. that's what the democrats i think the purpose of these proposed. they said hey, let's meet in the resetting reports and these middle on a number and it looks like mark meadows said no. calls for a re-establishment of >> no, no. the basics is that we know that that's not accurate. in other countries, the here's the thing -- the cardinal universal masking, physical rule in negotiations is you distancing, avoiding large don't do them on tv. gatherings and those kinds of you don't do them here on tv and things have worked. if we look at countries like you don't do them in capitol italy, spain and france. hill in the rotunda like nancy they have a total of seven or eight deaths a day and we have a pelosi does. you do it with sincerity and thousand and it's not magic what have to have both sides to do a they did and i think if we act deal. i know a deal could be done if together in national unison, we you just go by that rule. can get there and that's what it can be done, but in the absence of this -- president the purpose of these many of these reports are. trump will act to help people >> want to bring up the issue of who are unemployed, who are masks. there have been some people who hurting, people who are working said we have 95% compliance on that need more money. renters, homeowners who are really facing a bleak future of mask wearing we could sort of get this virus under control. eviction and foreclosure s and is that unrealistic and do we need to do more than just

mandating masks? students that need to get out >> we do. i think masks are not alone -- from under the burden of debt. >> assuming negotiations and not by themselves are alone continue and a deal happens in a the solution, but they are a week or two weeks i assume the critical part of it. we know that physical distancing executive orders become null and makes a big difference. void? >> if congress solves the we know that large gatherings are places where super problem there's no need for the president to take executive spreading, venspreading action, okay? events occur and the vier you we'll see what we get, but here's the point. let's not go there. hto let's go to this. get around quickly and infect we have four actions president many people at once so we have to do a number of things trump has taken that will help workers, the unemployed, together. in terms of simple things like renters, homeowners and diagnostic testing results coming back much more quickly. students. students who have student loans. what we need is sincere it's unacceptable for the negotiation. country to have testing come we have to believe that both sides actually want a deal and back a week or two weeks later. it's not useful at that point. there is this theory, chuck, that the democrats would prefer it's not useful even doing the tests and there are a number of things that we have to do, but they're not complicated. to see the economy go into the they may be hard, but we have to tank for another 90 days because do them in unison. that harms the president. and all of those are not hard i hope that capitol hill hasn't except when the word politics become that cynical, but watching these negotiations gets involved and it makes makes me wonder. everything harder and i want to

keep you out of the political >> think the cynicisms are too space here. let me ask you a question about extreme. i take your point. vaccines and to sort of set >> we're it willing to bend. >> he has a reputation of expectations, dr. fauci implied that the first vaccine that we killing more deals -- >> that's not fair. get, he hopes it's 75% >> he's a great negotiator and what we don't want is to have this break down and we went up effective. the fda said they'll approve any there in good faith and we vaccine that's at least 50% didn't see our side going out in effective. can you explain to the public what that means? the rotunda throwing grenades what it means and what it doesn't mean and what our and it was the other side doing expectations should be for the that. first vaccine? >> well, we know that many of >> let me ask you about the dp the vaccines that we use are not apart of your job. >> yes. >> you wear a lot of hats. perfect. they don't prevent every case of the last days of summer how disease, but if they prevent a trump fell short in containing a substantial portion of disease virus and i want to pull out then that can help us get to a this paragraph because i think point where most of us are it impacts you, dr. navarro, the protected, the disease can't administration has resisted spread quickly between people anymore, a concept that is doing so. trump and several white house called herd immunity. aides have instead continued to herd immunity doesn't mean we think that it is politically won't have the disease anymore. advantageous to see the issue to it means it won't as efficiently the states to avoid taking spread in an epidemic form. ownership or blame for the issue >> is there a percentage figure even though testing shortages

are largely seen as a federal in your mind that you think will sort of give us a huge step in failure. why haven't you used the dpa to the right direction? is it a vaccine that is at 75% figure -- to help fix this testing problem in theat identi or it is 50%, do you fear that could be a false sense of hope? >> i think we would take 50% because 50% is a lot better than what we have now. we have no tools, no vaccine tools or medicine tools that we can use to slow this down, so 50% would be far better than what we have now. of course, we all want something that is 75, 85, 90% effective, but we'll have to see what we get and i think for the amount of time that has passed since the beginning of this pandemic to have this vaccine that's 50% effective in the coming months or in the beginning of 2021 would be phenomenal, but we hope it's better, but 50% would be better than what we have now. >> tom inglesby from johns hopkins, one of our experts that we have on here regularly, i appreciate you coming on and sharing your expertise with us, sir. >> thanks for having me, chuck.

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the panel is with us from their remote locations. msnbc anchor joshua johnson. nbc news capitol hill correspondent, kasie hunt and rich lowry, editor of national review. to sort of set the table here i want to show case our nbc news political units first battleground map of 2020. full disclosure, i am a member of said political unit. we will start with the states hillary clinton won if 2016 all of which remain in biden's column which compatrump carried 2016 we are currently demonstrating a a toss-up in stripes. the six trump 2016 states that we've been considering the key six battlegrounds for 2020. wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania in the north. right now none are to all have biden with a consistent lead. biden would have 324 elect ral votes if just the states he's leading in went his way, far

more than the 270 he needs on par with the barack obama electoral numbers of 2008 and 2012. president trump leads in 20 states good for 125 electoral votes and nebraska's second congressional district we have as biden, georgia, ohio, iowa and texas all of which president trump won last time as the remaining toss-ups with 79 electoral votes and if those are the toss-up states you know where the map is. rich lowry, i start with this, a backdrop because i ask this simple question, why is the president not taken the democrats deal at this point because it seems it probably would help his reelection prospects. >> yeah. chuck, there's some dispute about how the real reduced spending is in the democratic offer, but the white house has been reluctant to get much above a trillion dollars and i think it's with an eye to renewed republican concern about the deficit and i very much get concern about the deficit, but the real sin here isn't deficit

spending in the midst of major economic dislocation. it was all of the deficit spending that took place when the economy was good. >> joshua johnson, i had one democratic aid. that's been what's made these negotiations so odd is that the normal rules of politics they thought would apply to the other side which is the political pressure of the moment has not impacted them yet. >> yeah. it's kind of interesting the way that the political pressure has shifted over the course of this pandemic. i mean, mitch mcconnell was interviewed by politico this week and said it's a lot harder now than it was four months ago. we're that much closer to the election. i do think dr. navarro made an interesting point in saying that you don't negotiate in public. that may be part of why this is so hard. i think it's also telling that both sides can't seemto come to an agreement perhaps because of the publicity around these negotiations. it might be bet or both sides if they just sent delegates and if

all of the major players stayed home and stayed away from cameras for a while, but yeah, as we get closer to the election, unfortunately, it seems like less and less is getting agreed to because every sound bite after every negotiation became something that would end up in an opponent's campaign ad. they have to come to an agreement. there's just no choice. the economic fallout is just too great not to. yet, do you see them landing this plane this week? >> i think the blame game has made that potentially very difficult at this point, chuck, and republicans are essentially making a bet that democrats are not going to go out there to knock down the unemployment insurance executive order because they simply can't be seen doing that and i think there are real questions about mark meadow, the white house chief of staff and his role in the negotiations because steve

mnuchin seemed willing to cut this deal with democrats and there does seem to be this overarching bets that the people that will pay the ultimate political price for not doing a deal will be republicans in the senate and the white house. whether that's the best course of action for the country, i think is up for our viewers to decide. >> is the real problem here for the white house the fact that any deal that congress cuts is going to be majority democrats ? >> yeah. yeah. that's another constraint, but it's definitely in his political interest to do this, to get a deal. these executive orders are nebulous, they're confused and they're a poor substitute for law making and i should note, even if they're technically legal, this is not how our system is supposed to work where congress affirmatively declines to do something and the president rummages around for authorities to try to do it on his own. this is part of a longrunning trend on trampling on an

effective congress. >> are you in the ben sasse camp, chris, with constitutional slop? >> yeah. it's against the spirit of our system. it's when many of us invade against obama's second term governance and it's an extension of that. >> yeah. i want to pivot to veepstakes since we'll stick with politics here. joshua, the david axelrod tweet they asked senator durbin about, it is sort of -- it is an insider conversation that this idea that are some candidates running too aggressive of a campaign for this number two slot? >> that's the thing. i'm not sure how to read the campaign. like, you know, if you were asking me who was going to win the nba championship, i know the rules of the game and how the players have done. no one knows the rules of this game and no one knows what the campaign strategy is, who the players are or who the leaderboard is.

there's no way for us to know which makes this whole political season even more opaque, forgive me, chuck, by the way, but i did want to mention before we get too far out, dr. navarro did say something to you that was a bit deceptive in his assessment of the pay that the payroll tax has been viewed which makes his negotiations harder which said nancy pelosi supported it in 2011 and that was two percentage points and not a payroll tax cut and that was deceptive in what he said. >> and there was a plan to restore social security. you get to the challenge of trying to fit an hour's worth of television in. >> right. exactly. >> there were a lot of things that i had to unpack on that one. kasie hunt, we're going to hear from the vice president at some point about his runningmate, maybe tomorrow. it does feel as if we're still sitting in and it's kamala harris versus the field and biden world seems divided. some think it's the perfect pick and some think can you trust her to be your loyal number two?

>> david axelrod didn't name name, but the underlying suggestion has been that it's kamala harris' camp that's playing political hard ball behind the scenes here in trying to make sure that her way to this pick is relatively clear. i'm not saying that we have reporting on that, but the suggestion from people in public is very strong, and i think that's rubbed a lot of women the wrong way. women operatives i've talked to have looked at this process and feel that, you know, we're experiencing a little bit more of what hillary clinton went through, that this process is this way partly because it's women fighting it out and people are less comfortable with women in that role and at the end of the day it will come down to the relationship between the vice president and the person that he ultimately picks so only he knows the answer to that question. >> and the fact of the matter is we know he's probably met with more of these folks face to face than we've been able to track during this pandemic. all right, guys. well done.

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welcome back. data download time. if you want to know what a campaign really thinks about its chances, don't listen to what it says. follow the money. since june there's been some interesting movement showing us which states each campaign is bullish about and which ones are neck and neck. first, the big three blue wall states that went for trump in 2016. both campaigns were fully engaged and all three until mid-june, but in recent weeks we've in the week of june 2nd, the trump and biden forces were spending at roughly the same level there, $474,000 for team trump and $484,000 for team biden. biden built a substantial polling league and by july 21st, the financial numbers were roughly $16,000 for trump in michigan and 1.6 million for biden in the state.

then there are the state's donald trump won in 2016 where the biden campaign and pro-biden outside groups are offense, north carolina, arizona and florida. we'll focus arizona. trump spending was at 161,000 versus nothing for biden. by the week of july 21st, trump and company were spending 1.1 billion, then there are the states hillary clinton won whad minnesota. the trump campaign is spending very little now in new mexico and minnesota. let's look at nevada, pro-trump spending has gone from zero the week of june 2nd to more than 400,000 and stayed there through july 21st and while biden seemed to think it was safe enough not to spend early on and more recent ad buys suggest they're not paying attention to nevada. the heavy campaign ad is yet to hit and çbattlegrounds can continue to shift and so far the

advertising map continues to expand for joe biden and president trump's team is mostly having to play defense. when we come back, coronavirus and the classroom. when will it be safe enough to send children back to school. this upcoming school year is overwhelming. >> how will we build engagement with our students and make it feel like we're still in a building? going back is being able to keep them safe. ready to shine from the inside out?

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♪ ♪ welcome back. all this week nbc news and msnbc are airing a special series, "coronavirus in the classroom" an education in america during the covid-19 pandemic. the big question, of course, whether schools can be opened and opened safely and how do you open them? this morning we brought together intimately involved in trying to get students educated this year while also trying to keep teachers, students and their parents safe all at the same time. jacqueline dungy is the principal at the new paradigm loving academy in detroit which is hoping to create a combination of in-person and virtual learning and he's a

teacher in las vegas and they plan to start online own and christine mcclary is a nurse at the east sanford school in auburn, alabama, where parents get to choose between in-person and remote learning. a principal, a teacher and the school nurse, you guys are on the front lines of all of this in many ways. jacqueline, i want to start with you as a principal, i have a brother-in-law who is a principal and he's feeling it from all sides. the pressure not to open, the pressure to immediately open. everybody wants immediate answers. i can only imagine the pressure you're feeling right now. just tell us a little bit about it. >> well, of course, we all want to ensure a safe return to school for our students, our families and even our staff, and with that being said, there are so many things that have to come into play to ensure we're able to do that. we surveyed our families. we wanted to make sure that they felt comfortable with even coming back to school. we put together a task force to

study, you know, make some decisions about what are we going to doew this was going to be a long experience. >> theo, in las vegas, your school you'll be starting online only at first. what's the biggest hurdle you're concerned about clearing as you prepare for this online-only environment in a couple of weeks? >> i think the biggest thing, chuck, is that it's new for everyone, right? it's new for me as a veteran teacher. it's new for the parents and families and it will be new for the student, and so i think the biggest hurdle for us is how do i engage students in an online platform and how do i make sure that they're showing up every day, that i'm building relationships with them. that's going to be the biggest thing and the toughest thing that educators are facing right now is just that engagement and getting those kids to show up and understand what school looks like this year. >> christine, let's go -- believe it or not, and i don't

know how many people watching know this, but most schools do not have a full-time school nurse. according to the survey, we were able to find about 35% of full-time and other 30% of schools have a part-time school nurse and about a quarter don't have any nurse at all. so first i want to talk about what role do you believe you should be playing when it comes to opening these schools? do you feel like you and your fellow school nurses, you should be doing the testing or supervising a testing strategy? >> having a safe school throughout our state and throughout the country is paramount for all school nurses. first of all, i would say we need to have a full-time nurse in every school every day. that would really help with the children and their safety and their health. as far as testing, this alabama association of school nurses did come up with a plan that was

four-pronged that addressed potential testing in the schools with parental consent in order to get results back more quickly so we would know if children were actually sick or not. we actually were looking into doing thermal scanning with a.i. technology to determine if a child was symptomatic quickly before the child got into the school and potentially, posed either their teachers or other students. >> what about the technological divide? who closes that gap? are you expected to do it for these parents? are you expected to find the technology for these kids or is someone going to come in here and get these resources? >> as a school district we were able to get during the spring 99% of our families engaged in online platforms and we weraible to provide technology for any of the students that were in need and we were able to provide support with internet as needed and necessary. so we haven't been able to get

support as well as shift some of our funding to bridge that digital divide because that is a huge concern. that led to me as a person, but as our leadership team and other principals doing home visits to ensure that students had the technology that they need as well as ensuring that they knew how to use that technology and that that wasn't a barrier because we know that with our students that are in those distressed and lower socioeconomic groups that we have to make sure that we are bridging that gap. >> i think the biggest thing that we have to remember is that the school system is meant to actually uphold the community, and i think that in the spring time we make sure that our students have the technology, but if i have a family that has two or three children at their family needs and find em to

out and survey them and do they have wi-fi? can they get on? does their device work? and so all of those things are the first things we have to do to engage those families at the very beginning, and i -- the other thing, because we have christine on, too, teachers can't do this without the other's support and the educators who are out there helping us. if i have a family and that student isn't coming on and i can't figure out and i can't get them on then my school psychologist, my school counselor, social worker, school nurse, those folks are essential to make sure that all of those needs are taken care of. >> how much would it cost to make sure there is a school nurse in every school this year? do you have an estimate on something like that? because that's obviously, one in four schools have ni assume thi doesn't.

at least in my state. it is funded by the state. when we applied for cares act funding the alabama association of school nurses in our plan, we applied for cares act funding for our plan and so that would have funded for a school nurse in every school in the state of alabama for one year. you know, i think the approach to reopening schools has somewhat been back card. we approached it from an educational standpoint and not a health standpoint, and i think if we had started looking at that time from a health standpoint, how do we reopen safely? how do we get isolation rooms and so forth instead of what can we do to keep kids safe at home and we have a lot more school systems opening up. >> the rest of o

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creating a new company inside a pandemic. a massachusetts lab that has fascinating science to help fight against coronavirus and the backyard -- between wasps and bees. silicon valley is taking side and arming the bees. this week on "press here." good morning. i'm scott mcgrew. 2020 has been pretty tough so