have, especially the middle analysis are nbc news chief distanced video of the scene that this is not a movement at this point. >> anarchists don't care. people in the backs of pickup anything in the senate requires class, both black and white, white house correspondent, where it occurs on a street. both democrats and republicans. they just want to cause trucks shooting paintballs into but speaker pelosi, if she against people who attack our violence. hallie jackson. "the new york times" it looks like there's some sort this is going to be an >> exactly. they want to burn it down. correspondent michael schmidt. police, who want to defund our all right, guys, i'm going to the crowd. worked with chuck schumer, i can incredibly unpredictable fall. pause it here. other people throwing things of small crowd milling around. police, who come across as yamiche alcindor, and former onto the trucks where the pro tell you all of those things when we come back, both republican governor of north trump supporters were driving so it appears to be some sort of that i just mentioned are anti-police, when most people in whether it's the virus, the carolina, pat mccrory. america are in favor of the political parties are fighting around. and then eventually there was a conflict that occurred between a available for the american politics or the protests, to register new voters in welcome to sunday, it's "meet people and the speaker pelosi is police. they're not in favor of bad battleground st the press." smaller conflict on the streets couple people and that's when saying no. there's just an enormous amount shootings, terrible, horrendous where someone was shot. the shot was fired, shots were of unpredictability as we head >> announcer: from nbc news in it looks right now like the shootings, but what's happened >> are you going to bring your person who was shot had a hat fired. number up or is $1.3 your final is the anarchists have forward. >> chuck, i want to also say i washington, the longest running >> overall, what has been -- how show in television history, this infiltrated peaceful protests offer? >> listen, we're not going to and have gotten no pushback from didn't say right-wing or with the insignia of the group would you describe the situation is "meet the press" with chuck todd. over the last month in portland? negotiate here because the the liberal wing of the speaker has been very clear. left-wing, it's anarchy. welcome back. patriot prayer which is a >> you know, it's changed a lot. when she said $2.2, she said democratic party or anyone in either side can underestimate data download time. good sunday morning. right-wing group here in the the democratic party. as in every presidential portland area. don't do anything at all, chuck. election year, both parties are we're going to get to all the you recall in july when the anarchists. if we do, we're in trouble as a this sunday, after the political news in a moment. >> mike, do we have an came fro? federal government came in with i said what does the $2.2 fighting to register new voters we're going to start with a their forces and wearing it's put the democrats onels re nation. >> no, no, no, no. ahea atow they're conventions, a 65-day sprint. deadly clash in portland, i'm glad you clarified that, republicans attacking joe biden. did they come from protesters? represent? you know what her response was? pat. oregon. pro trump and counterprotesters camouflage and pulling people in i'm not going to tell you, let public safety. a lot of people throw the doing in four key battleground >> he is the destroyer of wasenforcement? so public safety is now a major states starting with clashed overnight. me fill in not a proper negotia, anarchists onto the left wing pennsylvania. one of the three states that america's jobs. fist fights broke out and at one is it possible it was unmarked vans. and i think s tort of political narrowly put president trump >> looking to the future we wil 's sort of a issue in this presidential over the top in the electoral nor is it anything that the point gunfire broke out during a that brought out huge crowds, american people accept. college. since election day 2016, in fact, many of her rank and campaign. >> you know, michael schmidt, confrontation and a man was many thousands of people were pennsylvania has added just over coming out at that point. file members don't even accept look, i think democrats would again, again. >> rewriting history. killed. joining me now is mike baker of 922,000 new voters to e rolls. since then it's really come down respond to governor mccrory and >> fortunately, as the virus "the new york times" who has it. >> mark meadows, the chief of say that's one-half of thor this is according to da. began to spread, the president been covering these events in a lot. i've been here most of the week ♪ portland. staff for the president, i acted quickly. mike, tell us what you saw, what and with a lot of the protests appreciate you coming on, come on in, we're open. democrats have an advantage, >> and trying to make the you witnessed, and if you atrin sharing the perspective of the election a choice, not a at night. white house. thank you, sir. they have registered 132,000 it's usually been a couple >> thank you, chuck. ♪ more voters than republicans. referendum. >> this election will decide instigators. it does seem as if right now that's not insignificant in a demolish ourve the american joining me now is the hundred people. you know, there are much smaller state where president trump won numbers but they're also a crowd national co-chair of joe biden's there is some bad instigators by less than 45,000 votes. all we do is hand you the bag. campaign. it's congressman cedric richmond

that's been still -- the more looking to take advantage of simple. done. then there's north carolina, hard core group that's out there of louisiana. this moment maybe for nefarious where there is also a cherished destiny. congressman richmond, welcome you know, you just we adfigure it out.n >> my guests this morning, white back to "meet the press." competitive senate race on the ballot this year. protesting, doing direct action every night. reasons or reasons we're not house chief of staff mark that includes spray painting or i want to start with a column talking about. overall, there are 1.3 million meadows, and the co-chair of the we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. from george packer who writes this to me is the real danger of new voters, and again, democrats biden campaign, congressman lighting a police union building this political moment we're in ♪ cedric richmond of louisiana. as a country. have an edge of more than on fire. the following and says this. >> the thing that i picked up on plus, deadly scene in portland. at the time, you know, because 56,000. it's smaller numbers, the police ordinarily it's the incumbent arizona, there are more than a pro-trump and black lives matter president's job to show up at this week as this was all we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. million new voters, and there would come in and clear them out the scene of a speech but i'm a verizon engineer, and i'm part protesters clash overnight. playing out with the of the team building the most things have been a bit closer. and make a whole bunch of conventions, is just this idea powerful 5g experience for america. gunfire erupts during one arrests. that things are tightening. democrats only hold an edge in police have made dozens of trump is temperamentally it's 5g ultra wideband, and it's already confrontation and a man was arrests the past week and o kep as we came through the summer, killed. we'll have the latest. as the president struggled to available in parts of select cities. also, the police shooting in like los angeles and in new york city. kenosha, wisconsin, of jacob a much more contained -- much communicate amid all of these more contained way than it was to wisconsin. and it's rolling out in cities around the country. blake. crises, there was some sense that biden was really pulling >> they shot my son seven times. compared to a month ago. cedric richmond, is joe biden with massive capacity, >> leads to violent street it's like an eight lane highway going to be going to wisconsin ahead. but in the past few days coming compared to a two lane dirt road. scenes and the fatal shooting of >> until we saw what happened 2016 withrats have a lead in ne two protesters by a teenage last night anyway. tomorrow? out of this, there's just this 25x faster than today's 4g networks. mike baker from "the new york >> i don't know the answer to vigilante. that. times," really appreciate you but also i think that vice prevailing feeling amongst in fact, it's the fastest 5g in the world. getting up very early for me on president biden has a folks, and maybe it doesn't bear voter registrations but there's nba players speak up. the west coast and giving us responsibility to not make itself out in every poll, but from the network more people rely on. another wild card. states that your eyewitness account. things worse, to make sure that that this is a much more this is 5g built right. >> it's amazingke not affiliating with either thanks, mike. >> thanks for having me. the policea only on verizon. loving this country and this well, the unpredictable situation than we political party. these folks are young. country does not love us back. thought maybe jus take a look at the percentage of >> and walk out, soon to be these unaffiliated voters who joined by players in other major one that began with the police ago. when we look back now, it's just are under the age of 40. shooting of jacob blake in sports leagues.o former nba pla kenosha, wisconsin, the shooting 63% of new registrants in deaths of two protesters in accommodate his visit and i arizona, 61% in pennsylvania, think he is weighing all of kenosha by a teenage vigilante those things right now. >> given what we saw overnight 69% in north carolina and 56% in who came in from out of state in portland, given what we've florida. what do we know about younger and the republican national seen take place all week in ca

convention. president trump and other voters? speakers presented a far well, they don't appear to be different picture of america trump fans. candidate trump lost voters than democrats did a week under 40 by double digits in earlier. not one in which president trump is right now on this issue in 2016. was responsible for mishandling so add it all up and these new the coronavirus and tens of voter registration numbers thousands of unnecessary deaths, particular? >> well, i don't have a concern suggest an additional challenge but instead one where the virus where we are on this issue. that president trump and his is a thing of the past, the i mean we have been very clear party faces going into the final president having saved millions stretch of this campaign. of lives with a swift response, that police reform in this and the violence in the streets country is a necessity and that when we come back, both a sign of what will happen in a unarmed black people being joe biden presidency. killed by the police should be president trump and joe biden joining me now is the white plan to address the violence in house chief of staff, mark low-hanging fruit. plan to address the violence in the streets this if we could just get president meadows. mr. meadows, welcome back to trump to acknowledge that and to i'm a verizon engineer, and i'm part of the team building the most "meet the press," sir. >> good to be back with you. powerful 5g experience for america. push for real police reform, it's 5g ultra wideband, and it's already thanks, chuck. >> i wanted to start with this. then let's address the issue why available in parts of select cities. the president on thursday night nba players did not play in like los angeles and in new york city. painted a picture of what he basketball games. and it's rolling out in cities around the country. said would be joe biden's the fact that people areu on ja supporters out in the suburbs of with massive capacity, america. and i look at the violence this portland. it's like an eight lane highway they had this vow that they were week, mr. meadows. compared to a two lane dirt road. going to go into portland waving this is in donald his inabilit blake's death. 25x faster than today's 4g networks. flags as sort of a caravan. i mean that's the issue. and i think that without a plan in fact, it's the fastest 5g in the world. initially the plan was to sort from the white house to address from the network more people rely on. of circle around the highways, streets safe? >> well, i mean you can try to this is 5g built right. but some of the people in the it, it's just really sweeping it caravan peeled off and went reframe it that way, chuck, but only on verizon. under the rug and you hear the right into downtownh that's just not accurate. i can tell you that when we look rhetorical gymnastics from his at kenosha and the phone calls chief of staff that was just here. vice president biden has been

that were made to the governor very clear. he put out a plan on counterprotest some cases. of wisconsin, we offered help. and i think that that should be the subject we're talking about. help was denied. obviously there was multiple >> when it comes to the violence gunshots and people lost their in the streets now, who should life. be held responsible? we made a repeated call then the no sweat! >> those perpetrating the try it and love it or get your money back. next day, sent in national violence. look, vice president biden has guard, fbi agents, u.s. marshals been very clear that peaceful to restore peace in kenosha, protests are the bedrock of our (peter walsh) people came and they met and they felt comfortable. wisconsin. democracy. it's what we did with coogan's. and that's what needs to happen but what i don't want to do, in portland. chuck, is to ever confuse or you know, it's interesting to you felt safe and, if you were safe, you could be joyful. see you frame portland that way compare peaceful protesters with those committing crimes. those are not peaceful everybody has a coogan's. and almost half those small businesses, because someone was shot last they could close if people don't do something. protesters. night. peacefulunion, but to suggest that somehow it's we have to keep our communities together. been peaceful in portland, that's how we get through this. chuck, is just not looking at trying to make sure that their the facts. ♪ we've had over 200 anarchists, black and brown daughters and ae and they're not peaceful protesters. encounters. those that are out there these are people that every committing crimes are not a part single night conduct violent of those peaceful protests and acts. and it is in democrat cities. they should not be (vo) but a moment like this can bring us together to rethink way. and i think that law enforcement the way forward. you want to talk about donald so wells fargo is using some of our locations as drive-up food trump's america. has to deal with it. most of donald trump's america but what was very interesting just now, when you talk to the banks to help provide 50 million meals for americans in need. is peaceful.

it is a democrat-ledning who ju chief of staff meadows, he said donating all the roughly $400 million in ppp processing fees that president trump is on the side of law enforcement. yesterday denied help once again well, the question becomes, to support non-profits assisting small businesses. well, from the federal government. justice? who's on the side of and committing one billion dollars to help put an end and so, listen, we need to get constitutional policing? to the bottom of this. it's not about law enforcement to the housing affordability crisis. we need to make sure that we or protesters, it's about making the unthinkable has happened. hold people accountable. now it's time to rethink how to make a difference. ultimately, we need to make sure sure that police are held that these people that are conducting these acts go to accountable when they violate people's constitutional rights jail. we've had over 97 federal law when they shoot unarmed black people. and if the president can convene enforcement arrests that were that conversation, then i think conducted in portland, but that we would be in a better largely the d.a. there in space. and so he keeps talking about portland, chuck, you know, he says even if you acost a police what biden's america would look like. well, this is trump's america. he has to own this moment. officer, we're not going to he has to own the incompetence enforce that. it's just not what most made an ound180,000 american deaths, almost 6 million infections, almost 38 comparison. i guess you're saying that is there parts of the country that million jobless claims. he has to own it. this is his america. the president doesn't govern? so how do you break this country and theo fix everything is the president only in charge of places where he has that i just destroyed. supporters? and so that will be the message you sort of -- you're saying,

of the campaign and we're going well, these are all democratic to have to make that case. cities. i just want to -- i'm just but at the same time, i think trying to understand does the president not believe he has america is in a real fragile responsibility of governing and point. leading the entire country? i think that you will hear joe biden speak, you will hear him >> well, he does govern and lead the entire country. try to heal this country, but, chuck, you're smarter than because the president just doesn't have it in him. that. these are local law enforcement >> i'm curious what you made efforts that are -- that can be supported by a federal backstop, last week of all the whether it be national guard or testimonials from black men at the fbi. and so when we look at that, as the republican national convention and how much of an impact do you think it might have? we look in portland, it's not i want to show this chart of the donald trump's d.a. that's presidential vote among black saying to stand down. men going back to 2008. it's not donald trump that is and there has been a consistent saying that we need to look the erosion of support for the other way, it's the mayor of portland. so let's at least have a true democratic party from black men. version of what's happening in a high of 95% in 2008. just 80% of the vote in 2016. these cities. if your viewers are going to there clearly was a concerted tune in this morning, why don't effort by the trump you show them the letter from the mayor of portland where he what do you make of the effort, says, no thanks for federal and what should the biden you t. help, and yet we have someone who lost their life overnight. i can tell you that we are donald trump very effectively in 2016 raised the question to ready. in fact the president is ready

to make sure that we provide black men, what do you have to lose? i think now black men see whatever law enforcement support clearly what they have to lose. that we can. welcome back. and it's not this president who the panel is back. they can get killed and the we are going to hear from the has said let's defund the president won't say a word, president in kenosha tuesday. police, chuck. we expect to hear from joe biden won't utter jacob blake's name, >> let me ask you this. will not talk about police tomorrow. we don't know where he's going reform. to do that. if you look at unemployment, pat mccrory, if you were joe if the president is cheering on black unemployment is twice that biden would you try to get to people that are going to go into of white unemployment. kenosha tomorrow before the the fact that almost 40% of portland, those protesters, the president? >> it's high risk, high reward. black businesses will not president called them great you just don't know what type of patriots. do you think the president should be telling his supporters survive his covid-19 incompetent environment you're entering when you come into a situation where there's been a lot of violence. de-escalate, don't show up with response, black men see that. as a mayor and governor, i did long guns, don't play vigilante? and so you will see us as a try to go in there, but you have campaign talk directly to black we haven't heard the president men. to be very careful about the try to -- he only wants to we will not make assumptions. circumstances because often you de-escalate the protests he we will not take them for cannot control the message. doesn't like. he has not talked about granted. we're goin t >> yamiche, what does biden need de-escalating the protests that them. so whether it's about mass home to say tomorrow? support him that are showing up how should he be framing his with long guns and certainly remarks? >> biden should say that i trying to at least give a visual understand that african-americans and people of college affordability, color in this country are fed up increasing education funding, with being treated like incentive to create a conflict. all of those things. second-class citizens. so we're going to go where black i've talked to so many people, men are and talk to black men constitution, the constitution including jacob blake's own is very clear. about their issues. it gives the right to peacefully but i think they see clearly father who told me he felt like what it is they have to lose his son was treated like an now.

protest. it also gives the right to -- animal. he understood that the forces >> i want to move on to the that led to his son being shot, for assembly. but when we look at that and we economy a bit. they were part of a diabolical the last time you and i spoke we somehow suggest that in some consequences of chattel slaver., cities that these particular areas are off limits, it's not done a good enough job reminding people where the economy was in who we are as a nation. if joe biden wants to connect with african-americans and you know, when we look at what people in this country,an that s happened in washington, d.c., the largely peaceful protests of dollars, a good job, a great economy that donald trumpin haire -- that happened on the mall were inherited. you saw what the rnc is pushing degree, none of those things certainly not something that in regard to the economy. anyone condemned. do you think democrats have done and yet what we saw were some of any better of a job since we protect you from someone criminalizing your body because the splinters that came off of last talked about reframing you're an african-american. that that were running around in frankly president trump will where the economy was in 2016? also have to do that. instead we heard the white house the streets of washington, d.c., call the protests by the nba absurd and silly. >> well, i think a little bit of of course kellyanne conway saying more chaos and violence that has happened. works in our favor. i think a lot more has to happen so joe biden could find a lane accosting senator rand paul that you know about but that is not after labor day. for himself to say those people we have to make it very clear to are rooting for violence. what the constitution protects people that this president has i'm here to do this and be with and not what we should be you and connect with you. endorsing, whether you're a democrat, republican, the worst job creation record >> hallie jackson, it was an unaffiliated or in between. under any president in the interesting phrase that mark we need to make sure that we meadows used with me. united states history. proper -- >> i understand that. he's lost 6 million jobs. >> we properly address that, it's mostly peaceful in donald the obama/biden era created 16 trump's america. chuck. it was a jarring line to hear because he's currently the million jobs coming out of the president. there shouldn't be a distinction these actions. great recession. there. do you expect that to be the why? frame for the rest of this >> well, you just had the report this president just does not campaign that they attempt?

have an economic plan, and i there, chuck. you're talking about the young think democrats have to hone in >> it already is, chuck. i don't think that's going to man last night in portland who on that. change over the next several the one thing trump does very months. congressman meadows also said well is says the same thing over was shot? something interesting to you >> no, the man who shot and over again. rlier in the show where he protesters in kenosha. most of the time it's a lie, but talked about how the president he says it over and over again is on the side of law i'm talking about kenosha. enforcement and on the side of and people start to believe it. law and order. >> the president has been very i think that is the frame that clear. we have to continue to say over you're going to see when the president has been very and over again that this president trump goes to kenosha clear. whether it was with that president has destroyed and on tuesday. the campaign and frankly individual or mr. blake or anywhere else, he has asked for wrecked this economy just like administration officials that everything he has ever touched i've talked to think that this is a positive message for the proper investigation. in his life. president in the sense that tyey in fact, i was in the oval and so we need to point out that office when he brought the attorney general in and 9:30 in there are farmers that are filing bankruptcy at all-time to people in president trump's the morning when mr. blake was shot just the previous evening. highs, that the unemployment when he looked at that, he says numbers are where they are, what i want to do is make sure for example, building bridges to that there's a proper small businesses are closing their doors every day. members of the black community investigation. who understand that they have that's why we have laws and been part of this institution of that's why we have a justice and so, yeah, it's incumbent upon us to keep reminding people systemic racism, president trump system. and lady justice has a blindfold has not done that in the last of that. on that should look at all of >> congressman cedric richmond, these things in a way that makes the national co-chair for the three and a half years. there's no indication that's going to change on tuesday when biden campaign, thank you for he goes to kenosha. sure that justice is brought coming on and sharing the campaign's perspective. instead the framing will be forward. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. about that thin blue line that out on a you've heard him, the vice sunday morning sho when we come back, the president, other members of the events last week in kenosha, campaign talk about. chuck, this morning, nobody is wisconsin, a police shooting, is set up to do. vigilante violenc, and pro backing away from those remarks that you talked about from what we always must do of law i kellyanne conway.

in fact the president's surrogates are defending those comments and leaning into it. there, not just because it's a i think it's more of what we'll rule of law, but because it see over the next 65 days. creates a safer community, >> you know, michael schmidt, whether it's in kenosha, change the plan or stay the course?s here. wisconsin, or anywhere else. perhaps it's events on the ground that are doing this, but >> right. i'm just trying to understand if violence is what's being the president denounced the violence on one side of and proven strategies rooted in data and analytics. talked about and not the virus, that's probably not -- that's protesters he didn't like. but why not denounce what this giving you more control. clarity. and confidence. probably not good news for joe biden. young man did? why not say, please, don't take for now and whatever's next matters into your own hands? >> i just think the remarkable the president has not said that. thing about what the president has done here is that he's one of his chief supporters in essentially running asinharge o. the media has actually defended you tried to raise this question this. isn't it incumbent on the earlier with the chief of staff president to help de-escalate just about the issue of isn't some of this violence on his the president in charge. side as well? and the president is sort of >> and the president -- you say one side or the other. running as if he is sort of let me tell you where the president is. continually the outsider. it's just another example of the the president is on the side of president's unprecedented law enforcement and the rule of law. he's been very consistent in approach to the presidency. it's something that i focused that. he said any governor, republican enormously on in the book. or democrat, any particular area it's not just the president's can request help of the federal unusual use of power, but it's government. we're willing to come in. we're willing to provide additional assets as we did in what that causes.

northern trust wealth management.e. and the products of that. kenosha, whether it's fbi, and in the case of what i write whether it's operational it's what we did with coogan's. about, it's about how the people you felt safe and, if you were safe, you could be joyful. controlled vehicles, whether it around the president have been is the national guard. we're willing to do that. forced into this he's been very consistent. so the message to your viewers this morning is clear. everybody has a coogan's. and almost half those small businesses, the president believes what we to stop the president, and need to do is sure that we they could close if people don't do something. we have to keep our communities together. standing between the president and what they think is potentially the abyss. mccrory, what resources are that's how we get through this. available for every single city. ♪ if you're having a problem, governors, we want to make sure uncomfortable with the south lawn being used for political advertisement? and what would you have said if that we can haelp you with that barack obama had done it? i'm a verizon engineer, and i'm part >> let me ask you, i'm running of the team building the most >> i probably would have powerful 5g experience for america. criticized it. low on time. we're all rather hypocritical. i know that perhaps you and it's 5g ultra wideband, and it's already speaker pelosi may be talking but the nba too, i admired today. the democrats believe they have available in parts of select cities. come down and they would like to like los angeles and in new york city. meet you halfway. they believe halfway should be and it's rolling out in cities around the country. muhammed ali and bill russell with massive capacity, and arthur ashe, but the nba, it's like an eight lane highway $2.2 trillion, maybe $2 compared to a two lane dirt road. the corporate messaging on the trillion. are you willing to bring up the 25x faster than today's 4g networks. courts i think is a turnoff, number that the president will support? especially while they're wearing >> well, we brought up the number. shoes in china. i had a conversation with speaker pelosi. >> okay. and even on her $2.2 trillion in fact, it's the 5g in the world. i've got to -- all right. only on verizon. counteroffer she can't tell the i've got to endi the conversatin american people nor me what is

in that. there. thank you all. i can tell you what is in the thank you everybody watching today. we'll be back next week because offer that the president has if it's sunday, it's "meet the made and he's willing to sign. press." enhanced unemployment at levels she would agree with. welcome back. the nba was back night with a slate of playoff enhanced help for small games, including the milwaukee bucks versus the orlando magic. businesses that she would agree with. those two teams were supposed to literally help for day care and play wednesday when the bucks walked out to protest the police hospitals at levels she would shooting of jacob blake in agree with. and help for schools at levels kenosha, wisconsin. the walkout by those nba players she would agree with. led to similar actions by here's the problem is she puts athletes in other sports leagues, professional and college, including those not willing to turn down $1.3on of dominated by african-american players. it was the most striking example of professional athletes the american people because she demonstrating a willingness to would rather them have nothing use their celebrity and economic power to leverage social change. than to give way on what her joining me now are former nba player etan thomas and current wnba all-star sue bird who's the fantasy might be. >> mr. meadows, what you're vice president of the o suggesting can't pass the senate, right?hur, as you know, you to "meet the press." etan, i want to start with yo wildcat strike, if you will. the number of teams that

participated, i want to put up on screen, nine playoff games, 11 baseball games postponed, six wnba games, four nhl playoff games, the mls, the nfl, even college practices. what made this different, etan? what do you think made it where the sports world united? >> well, first of all, thanks for having me on today. it's interesting, because, you know, now after everything has happened, you're seeing a lot of people criticizing the nba players for voting to go back to playing after their two-day strike or boycott, like you said, or whohowever you want to call it. i think that's ridiculous. they have gone above and beyond the call ofduty, both the nba, >> announcer: nbc sports, home wnba and with the mlb standing of the olympic games, the nhl, in solidarity. they made their powerful statement heard really around the indianapolis 500, the pga the world. you know, they did it tour, and primetime's number one altogether. show, "sunday night football." and then they formulated the only on nbc. social change fund and they're going to be focused on

advocating for police reform and police accountability and voting initiatives and criminal justice reform and a lot of great welcome to the u.s. bank nbc things. so they're doing their part. sports report. >> and hi again, everyone. but it's also not the job of ahmed fareed here. professional athletes to solve we will get you to "american the policing problem that we pharoah: born to run" in just a have in this country. bit. that should be the focus of all but first let's get you caught up on some other sports news starting with hockey the people that we just saw at the republican convention this past week. i would say instead of donald trump screaming law and order at the american citizens exercising their right to protest, that he should be screaming police accountability, b we probably won't hear that. >> sue bird, a boycott takes money out of the hands of owners, takes money out of the hands of sponsors, takes money out of the hands of leagues, and i assume that there is an intention there that, okay, we want you to be paying attention. what role do you want to see owners and sponsors of sports leagues play? because you're sending a message to them too. >> right. you know, i do think the wnba is

in a unique position in that we have a lot of support from our owners. in fact i know myself, a bunch of other players from other teams got calls directly from their owners saying we support whatever you want to do. so i think a lot of it is more so about, like you said, the corporate sponsors, trying to get them to understand where we stand, what we believe in, what we're fighting for. but this isn't new for us. we've been doing this for years and years and years. i think what was so special about this moment was an opportunity, like etan said, for all of these leagues to be unified. and that's when, you know, we've learned in the wnba when we're unified as one voice, that's where the impact is f eelt for . so to have all these leagues together, you've seen what's happened. like etan said,n seen around the world. >> etan, yodu players was a bit more common. you didn't see it a lot in the

nhl and major league baseball. i just wonder how important do you think that here's two sports that are whiter and certainly their fan bases are very white. the importance of having the sports world united across racial lines. >> it's definitely important, especially in these times. right now when you see from the right that there's so much divisive type of a tone. i mean just looking at the republican national convention, you know, everything is divisive. and so sportspounity to be able people together. and so it's a matter of empathy. so some of these sports that as you say are whiter, they might not be dealing with the same things that i'm dealing with as a black man in this country. and people have to understand, you know, every single time that something like this happens, the conversation that happens in black homes. you know, my son, malcolm, just turned 15 years old. i'm terrified for him. like literally every single time something like this happens, i

can't sleep at night. i have to go and tell him again, you know, the rules of engagement. when you're stopped by the police, make sure that you have no sudden movements, you have tu didn't escalate in the first place. the only reason why it's escalated is because of the color of your skin. so you can't do what you see your white friends doing because they can come down to the police, go off, whatever they want to do. they can not comply, everything like that, and they will get to live. and that's a tough situation to be in. so when you're hearing athletes -- a lot of people are saying why is lebron feeling so emotional about this. when the ,

i have to follow a set of guidelines. it doesn't matterhat i've accomplished in life or who i am or what tax bracket i'm in or anything like that. i'm a black man and i'm a threat. >> sue bird, very quickly, we heard some politicians don't like it when the sports world speaks out on social issues. what do you say to those critics? >> i mean for me as a female athlete, the one thing that i've come to realize is we're judged on everything except our sport. we've been judged because we're black, gay, because we're women. nobody talks about us playing. so you fast forward 10, 20 years of this, and we've developed an yeah, 20 years nd you wouldn't let us and sense t

>> sue bird, etan thomas, i really appreciate both of you coming on and expressing your perspectives on this. it's a conversation that i hope continues. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you. when we come back, two conventions down, two competing visions of america, and 65 days to go till olympics delection d. the pnl is next. introducing schwab for as little as $5, now anyone can own companies in the s&p 500, even if their shares cost more. at $5 a slice, you could own ten companies for $50 instead of paying thousands. all commission free online. schwab stock slices: an easy way to start investing or to give the gift of stock ownership. schwab. own your tomorrow. schwab. i'm a verizon engineer and i'm part of the team building 5g ultra wideband. it's already available in parts of select cities and it's rolling out in cities around the country.

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welcome back. the panel is joining us. nbc news white house correspondent hallie jackson, "the new york times" correspondent michael schmidt. yamiche alcindor, white house correspondent for pbs news hour and former republican governor of north carolina and radio host, pat mccrory. welcome to all of you. i'm going to start with showing our apocalyptic campaign frame that both trump and biden created at their conventions. take a look. >> he is the destroyer of america's jobs. if given the chance, he will be the destroyer of american greatness. >> he's failed to protect us.

he's failed to protect america. >> the hard truth is, you won't be safe in joe biden's america. >> donald trump's failure of leadership has cost lives and livelihoods.ckson, this isn't a campaign where you're wondering, geez, boy, both sides are running on the same message. it's pretty clear. i tell you, we heard those messages. two people were killed -- we had three people killed this week in essentially what may be political protests. we're entering uncharted waters here. >> i mean you're completely right, chuck. it's something that we're going to be hearing a lot more about from especially the person that ientrump. i'm told by sources over the weekend as i was coming on the air with you, chuck, that violence in the streets, quote unquote, will be one of the three central themes to the president's campaigning and the vice president's campaigning moving forward over the next 65 days or so along with what they

consider to be a focus on what they see is an improving economy as well as talking about the coronavirus and what they are doing to try to mitigate the pande whether or not that will be effective messaging for people remains to be seen, but this issue of violence is one that you've already seen the president, his allies, his surrogates talking about. they believe truly that this is going to be something that will motivate people to get to the polls. it's a message the president is expected to take on the road, chuck. i can tell you that he is going to be traveling a ton. over the weekend he was telling allies that he wanted the best and most aggressive travel schedule. in the words of one person i talked to, he knows he can't win from inside the building so it's a message the president will take on the campaign trail heavily over the coming weeks and days. look for him to be in florida, look for himn north carolina. michigan, wisconsin. i heard a lot of talk about minnesota as well, chuck. >> yamiche, where are we right now, and where's the biden campaign in this moment in your mind? >> the biden campaign agrees with essentially one thing that president trump said during the rnc, which is that this is the

most important election in the history of the country. both of them are making the case that this election is going to be changing lives. and as cedric richmond told you, they see thistss low-hanging fr. that america should be able to get this right. so they see this as really pitching this forward and saying african-americans at two and a half times the rate of white americans at the hands of police, this should be the central issue. they pitch this as a battle for the soul of america. that's the messaging that you're going to hear over and over again. they're really going to be making the case that president trump failed miserably on the coronavirus. i thought it was interesting as i was covering on the south lawn of the white house today, that gathering of people with no masks, sitting shoulder to shoulder cheering on the president on this hot summer night in d.c. the white house transformed completely into a convention space. the president started making the

case that the united states was one of the best places when it came to death rates in america. so his idea and the plan there is going to be to try to paint this rosy picture and speak about the virus almost as if it's in the rear-view mirror. we know that's not true. the united states is second only to india in the number of new cases. about 42,000 cases. along with the death rate being one of the worst if not the worst in terms of modernized, industrialized countries. so those two things, race and the coronavirus will be top of mind for joe biden. he's going to be hitting the campaign trail after labor day as well going to all sorts of states that he sees as critical. >> pat mccrory, how does the president not walk a line and not look like he's rooting for violence? you know, kellyanne conway on friday making the case that somehow that she believes this helps them. e' at times you look from a political perspective, it's almost, oh, the violence can be

helpful politically and that can come across as almost looking like he's rooting for it. >> well, back in may when i was on this panel right after the minnesota riots and protests, i gave warning, do not underestimate the anarchists. i actually think a lot of democratic mayors and