this morning. let's get right to it. thanks for joining us. your company normally deals with edge computing. the cameras are hardware, and you managed to go from prototype or even concept to an actual camera in, what, six months? >> six weeks actually. >> six weeks. how did you do that? >> well, so the underlying software that we built, we've this week on "press here," been working on for the better smart cameras in schools will part of a decade. make sure students wear masks. and that was really the hard part of it. we'll talk to an entrepreneur the other -- the hardware piece, about when or if high-tech you know, my team has just got a workers will return to work. lot of experience as it relates and inside the unusual design of to hardware and as computing the all-balcony movie theater. technology, so we're motivated to help schools and pull it that's this week on "press together in a time frame that matters to them. we had to make it happen, and we here." did. >> did you have any difficulty >> good morning, everyone. getting this in front of school i'm scott mcgrew. i can't tell you the last time i administrators? was at a movie theater or what they are to say the least very busy, and their life is very, it is that i saw. i simply cannot recall because very unclear as far as what's that was way back in february. and with the pandemic getting going to happen with the schools.

they probably didn't have a lot of time to be talking to people. worse in the united states and not better, it may be a long >> well, you know, for a lot of time until we can return to the movies. when we do, we expect they may schools -- for a lot of schools, look different. you may have seen this on reddit student and teacher safety was their number-one priority. or twitter, an artist's so it was something that we actually had a lot of success rendering of a new movie theater with schools with, and i was with pods where every seat is up pleased to see that. close to the screen. >> now we should point out the luxury boxes of sorts. this is really happening. cameras themselves, let's talk they're building it in france. about how they work. i thought, let's find the guy they are thermal cameras. i think we've all run into that who's building it, jean marie at one point or another. they can also detect whether a derard joins us. good morning to you. the theater looks elegant and a mask is being worn. good way to social distance, but i suppose that's very similar to facial recognition, that it's did you have there design in mind before coronavirus? recognizing that there is something blocking there and can >> good morning, everyone. alert a school administrator well, yes. when there's no mask? actually quite long time before >> yeah. the coronavirus happened. absolutely. like i said, the underlying platform that we built for the last, you know, decade, really it was the desire of the allows us to deploy any number architectng really different, of ai models. so we added an ai model not only to bring the spectator much, much closer to the screen. to don. and it just happened that it's we have symptom screening. during the time of coronavirus. schools are asking us to include

naturally social distance. >> well, it looks marvelous. social distancing, monitoring flows to make sure people are now, what's the experience like? walking in the same directions did you model it out or use in they're supposed to be -- >> so they would be able to tell if the kids weren't six feet apart in the cafeteria or whatnot. >> yes, absolutely. vit vitro -- virtual reality? and we can even add contact how did you know it would work track and trace. for people in those spots? there's a lot of capabilities >> first of all, there was quite that we can add on to this really smart almost like a supercomputer that we've created an extensive experience in cinema design. i've been designing cinemas for for these schools. >> i want to get back to the the last 45 years. future of cameras here in just a second. it's behind some of the most but we should point out that the camera is incapable of detecting successful cinemas in france and in europe like, for example, one of if an asymptomatic kid is sick because that is literally by definition what an that boasts more than three million admissions a year. asymptomatic patient is. so it's quite relatable in terms >> absolutely. there's only so much you can do. but you know the symptom of cinema. screening helps, and then we ask and we did tensionsiextensive sr other questions such as, you know, have you been in contact. so we're trying to find as many ways as possible to minimize more than two years with a team of architects to make sure everything is working. risk. >> right. we came up with a design and so when you got these in front of administrators, some you some technology. provided for hefree you are cha.

>> one of the reasons i think it got so much attention on the internet was not just because of coronavirus but because it looks there must be the objection, somewhat similar to the galactic listen, we're hoping this pandemic isn't going to last forever, and we don't need these congress in "star wars." cameras beyond the pandemic did you see that similarity right away? because, you know, masks are going to be irrelevant. >> we saw that, too, to be what's your sale as far as how honest. it came as a surprise for us these are going to be used beyond the pandemic? because, again, it's a reflection of our attention to >> great question. well, you hope this is the only pandemic, but there could be bring the spectator closer to others. and so we have these already in the screen. and if you look at the place. but beyond that, temperature architecture of a standard taking is used a number of different ways. i can easily see these being cinema, because you cannot, you used in flu season, and i think know, you cannot have a seating the way in which we work and go to school is going to change in the future. it used to be that we would go to school with a cold or even a flu and even feel a level of tier slot much more seat because like look how hard core i am. for accessibility reasons. now i think that's going to then pierre came out with change. schools are also starting to brilliant ideas to bring some think beyond covid, as well, and inside the cinema. since the platform is so it makes it all look much accessible they're looking at other use cases, as well. vertical and much closer to the aside from schools -- screen. i think what he had in mind was >> go ahead -- >> outside of schools, you know, more something like you will as my kids were stuck in the house for the last ten days

find in opera or traditional because of the fires, i was theater house from a long time thinking, hey, we could use this in fire detection, as well. there's a thermal sensor, ago. but not far, far beyond its there's a video sensor. pace. if we affix these to houses, we >> it also brings, you know, it makes the cinema that much more could use it for early fire interesting to go to because detection. one of the things we haven't these days we all have these talked about is that the cameras can actually communicate with enormous television sets at one another. home. and so a fire that, you know, 20 and perhaps we have surround sound, as well, and goodness miles away or 50 miles away or knows the popcorn is cheaper. what have you can send signals this gives the theater something back and start sending early to offer people that maybe detection to homeowners that, they're not offering now. hey, you know, be prepared, be safe. so a lot of different >> yes. definitely. applications beyond covid. >> well, it was going to be my we think so. we had that in mind. final question. we wanted to bring, first of you know, where do these go from all, the spectators, but also here? i think we're all familiar with our partner exhibitors something -- with facial recognition. and that's an entirely different completely different. and not only different but also issue. but really there are all kind of something grand. possibilities for cameras. we wanted to come up with what -- what sort of things something that will be, you could you dream up if the know, jaw-dropping, breathtaking technology existed? the fire thing's a great for the spectator. example. why my home security cameras don't detect fire, that just kind of a rediscovering of the seems so obvious now. >> yeah. cinema experience. exactly. thanks to the vertical cinema, that's a great use case.

we've seen use cases in other we are able to have projections right in the center of the areas, as well, outside of screen so that the image will be schools and oil and gas, in safety in making sure people are pristine, there will be no wearing the right equipment. disruption at all. we intend to make a big again, you know, if they're their are issues in, you know, difference. it would be grand definitely. >> sometimes you'll see a picture of a concept car and equipment -- malfunctioning, we think i want to buy that and can detect that, detect find out they're not really vibrations, detect heat. building it. you're really building this in paris, right? there's a lot of ai models. >> yeah, absolutely. schools are looking at different use cases. these theaters are definitely because there's a check-in or under the aegis of pierre and checkout students where students are, they're looking into case his team. of other emergencies, i can we're happy to see it coming to leverage this platform to know where my students are, make sure they're safe. life. >> now we don't know what movies so we really wanted to think beyond covid. are going to be out soon, so we hope that this was a let's use a past movie. short-term thing. we hope that we don't have other what movie would you most like to see in your new theater? >> well, i think the past year, pandemics. this platform can be useful in i would like to say -- early other future applications in case we do see another pandemic. but also for other use cases. the schools don't feel like i'm buying this camera and it's only going to be a short-term thing. days, "memento," and also -- all we've though we made cost a factor and want to make it low cost for schools and small

that he did with batman which i businesses to use, we want to make sure they get real good use out of it. think is great. so that was one of the things we i think -- sorry -- that kind of thought about in building these cameras. >> i do think we're going to see all kind of interesting cinema route would be terrific. adaptations, you know, post i can't wait to see it. pandemic preparing for the next, >> well, we wish you the best of perhaps, disaster a little bit luck joining us this better than we did this one. morning. jean marie dura does that on the thank you so much. thank you so much for joining us theaters. this morning. >> thank you very having me. looking forward to that. it was a real pleasure talking we'll be back in a minute. to you. >> and "press: here" will be right back.

that's our show for this week. you may have noticed that we've been on somewhat irregularly. there's make room for my colleagues over at nbc sports.

we do anticipate that that will continue for a little while yet. we do have a regular podcast, though, called "sandhill road," a look at the interaction between venture capital and entrepreneurship in silicon valley. i think you'll really enjoy it. you can find "sandhill road" anywhere you find your podcasts, welcome back to "press: here," i'm scott mcgrew. apple, spotify, you can even ask i am in my home office, and we alexa. that's our show for this week. are trying out some software my thanks to my guests, and that will allow us to do this thank you for making us part of your sunday morning. the show. television show remotely as we have been doing, but with people able to collaborate in a way that they have not been able to do before. i'm actually able to control much of what you're going to see on television which means from time to time that i do have to look off camera occasionally to look at the control panel. but i promise you that i am paying attention. now if you've watched this show for many, many years, you know under normal circumstances we do this in a big, fancy studio, with robotic cameras. here's a look at what that looks

like. we have not done that since march. and if we're looking at the data on the pandemic, we are guessing we may not do it again for many, many, many months to come. that may actually, in fact, be a conservative estimate. it's hard to say when anybody is going to be back to the office in cautious corporations like mine. salesforce said a few days ago it would wait until july of 2021 to bring most of its workers back to its san francisco offices, facebook, and google have said much the same. i want to bring in adam jackson, a longtime silicon valley entrepreneur. he created "dr. on demand," his latest effort is "braintrust" which places freelancers in jobs for some of the big corporations that we're talking about. i think it gives an overall picture of what's going on in the bay area. obviously, freelancers often work for home. but are definitely working from home at this point. what sort of thing are you seeing with the corporations,

particularly in silicon valley and the bay area? >> sure. thanks, scott. longtime fan of the show. so what's interesting is all companies have been forced to turn into tech companies, right. even non-tech companies. they need to figure out how to innovate, build software. what's interesting is before this covid lockdown, those companies -- i'm not talking about facebook, apple, google, netflix, they're pretty good at tracking and retaining talent. i'm talking about companies like deloitte or nestle or bank of america or pwc, great incumbents -- great companies in their own right. they knew they had to go out of >> hello. the four walls. how are you? thanks for having me here. brain trust connects that talent with companies like that. before the lockdown, scott, you had to sort of do thinking in >> it's great to have you back here on "comunidad del valle." these companies like, hey, we last week we had the department know that it's going to be tough of public to hire these people because we're not big silicon value companies.

we kind of like the seats, we want them here in our office. so, yeah, we'll try something like braintrust where you're going to get me remote people, we're going to manage them over the internet. then the lockdown hits, and now everybody's a remote company overnight. and so it's just completely changing the way knowledge workers generally are organizing, whether you're tech or non-tech. >> you're talking to these companies, and you m asking them about their future plans. what are you hearing as far as who's going back to work when? i'm not asking you to give up secrets, you know, like, oh, pinterest is going back in october, or that kind of thing. but what's your overall understanding of what companies plan to do or -- or do they plan to come back at all? >> here's what we're hearing both from bay area tech companies and kind of global 1,000s. this is the new normal. this being remote distributed teams. we're in the software business, so we help companies build

software. but we're seeing this for knowledge workers across the board, right. so i mean, you've seen -- twitter, facebook, a lot of these companies in here in the bay, basically, you know, work remote forever. we may adjust salaries, but you know, this is indefinite. we're seeing it in the other sectors, as well. >> you're working with the ab 5 law, not working with it, but you're work could under its construct. we've seen this with uber and with lyft, with independent drivers. and how is that affecting the freelance jobs in general? >> so a couple different takes on ab5. i'm a big fan of the spirit of ab5. workers need -- they need a basic safety net. they need insurance, they need benefits. everyone deserves that. i think ab5 happens to be a poorly crafted piece of legislation, and the gig economy is sort of taking it head on. where braintrust lives, we're

actually connecting like little companies, like solo entrepreneur the, teams of three or five, usually have their own llc, and they want to do work for multiple clients. that's their business. you're seeing -- i think you had one of your prior ling, they're apply that model to the gig economy, which i think is pretty clever. >> now, we have heard that, you know, uber, lyft become the ones that people talk about, and certainly the ones that tend to affect people who are not in the industry because we all take uber and lyft. i've also read that this ab5 has affected jobs that people didn't expect. are any of the freelancers working for you affected by ab5? >> our freelancers in braintrust have not been affected. they're running businesses. their employees generally of their own little business -- they're employees generally of their own little business. >> what dumpling was doing. >> right. has not affected braintrust. what we're doing with

braintrust, we're building the world's first user-owned marketplace. most marketplaces are owned by investors, and those investors end up having to levee high taxes on marketplaces which have where you find the disaster that is uber and door dash. this is the experiment in user-owned marketplaces. what we're doing is we're trying to give the economics back that usually is taken by the middlemen, trying to give back to the users. we're just starting in this tech category. >> how would you differentiate yourself from, you know, 20, 30 years ago, the kelly temporary services and whatnot. everybody used to think of them, call themselves kelly girls. that's not actually what kelly did. and still does not. they make major staffing into a lot of and i know that i don't think apple necessarily uses kelly, but apple does this where they have contract workers, don't actually work for apple. what do you do, is it a modern

evolution of that? >> it is. it's -- it solves the same problem in a much more fair way. so the kelcompanies take this a opportunity to start shedding w2s, shedding full times, and maybe we didn't need to hire all these people, maybe this is a good time to cut 10%, 15%, show wall street we're serious about cost cutting and make it up in the share price. what i that end up doing is they use services like that to hire those folks back as contractors for a way lower rate, no benefits, et cetera, et cetera. so who wins there? well, the company wins. they get the same people cheaper. the middle man, the staffing agency wins, they're getting a, what, 20%, 30%, 40% of that. who loses? labor. braintrust is set up to fix that. it's basically we're turning the kelly layer into there big, thick layer of recruiting and placement that used to take 30%,

40%, we're replacing it with software. we're taking that money and giving it back to labor. now we can even the playing field in situations like this. >> well, give me one last second of question here, and that is what do you see as the near-term future of what's going to happen in silicon valley and the bay area? i don't mean necessarily in labor and your area of expertise, but are you here for quite some time. what does the future hold for us? >> yeah. look, i moved here out of school. i've been here 16 years. i consider myself a local. i spent most of my time in san francisco. i'm in marin county now. look, i think we've been on a very unsustainable path here in the bay area. i think it's very -- it's absurd that someone who makes a lot of money, you know, can't even afford a home here. and so i think this new remote first, the knowledge workers can work from anywhere, get out of the bay area. go back to where you're from. like job, probably more

efficiently. you'll get mother nature ti-- g your family. you're not on the 101, 280 anymore. let housing prices come down and turn it into a good place to live as long the fires aren't going. >> adam jackson, ceo of braintrust, thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me, scott. coming up next on "press: here," we'll return to my home office and look at how schools are using internet intelligent cameras to keep sick students out when we continue.

welcome back to "press: here." i'm scott mcgrew. there's no doubt the best place for school-aged children is in school, but several school districts have found out it is simply not working. kids come to school sick or without masks. while nothing short of a vaccine is going to solve the problem long term, there have been attempts to make schools as safe as possible. one idea is thermal cameras placed in school buildings that can pick out kids with fever and software that can alert school leaders if the child passing by the camera is not wearing a

mask. this was a crash project by and