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this sunday, the "final days days.". >> florida's looking very good. north carolina's looking very good. ohio is looking beyond good. >> it's enough. it's time to change. >> president obama atrump and jn make their closing arguments. >> if we win, you're going to see a stock market that goes like a roktsship. >> i know our people. i no he we can unite and lead the nation. >> and go on attack. >> biden is the leader of looters and flag burners. >> we're done with the chaos,
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the anger, the hate, the failure, the refusal to take any responsibility. >> the president seeking re-election during the worst covid outbreak yet. >> it's killing me inside. i'm kind of broken. i'm broken. and my colleagues are broken. >> with cases now approaching 100,000 a day. >> is it no matter how you look at, it's not good news. plus, our final nbc news/"wall street journal" poll just out on where the race stands with 48 hours to go. this morning we'll get reports from our four battleground states who could win the election, and on the chances the election could be decided by lawsuits and from our pollsters on the latest numbers on whether we could see another election night shocker. join egg me for insight and analysis are nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, nbc news correspondent kasie hunt, rich lowry, editor of
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national review and former democratic senator claire mccaskill. will to sunday and a special election edition of "meet the pres press". from nbc news, the longest-running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good morning from our headquarters right here at rockefeller center in new york city. ment we're amid the strangest election of our life time, fought amid the dangerous pandemic during a century will finally come to an end. or will it? yes, on tuesday millions will go to the polls to either re-elect president trump or make him a one-term-favorite of president biden. not only because we don't know who will win and 92 million all right voted and some battleground states count early votes very, very slow and late, we don't know when we're going to know who wins.
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but here's what we do now, our final nbc news/"wall street journal" completed overnight shows joe biden leading president trump by 10 30i79s over registered voters 5rks 2/42. that 10-point spread is the biggest for any presidential candidate in our poll at this late stage since bill clinton's re-election in 1996. for those of you with dreams or nightmares about a 2016 repeat, it is worth noting, our last poll four years ago showed hillary clinton with a shrinking four-point lead. it was 44/40 on this morning four years ago. that was down from a 10-point lead and more importantly clinton's 44 number left a whole lot of undecideds in a campaign where far fewer early votes had been banked. remember, all of this is happening amid a coronavirus pandemic that resulted in the u.s. in more than 9 million cases, it has taken 232,000 lives and counting so far. and not only isn't it rounding the corner, it is at his highest
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peak yet. and with midwestern battleground states being hit particularly hard in this moment. yesterday president trump, joe biden and their running mates were all across the battleground making their closing arguments. >> we win pennsylvania, we win it all. you know that, right? >> it here in michigan, where the right to vote is the most fundamental right. >> the road to victory goes right through the tar heel state! >> florida is going to determine in every way who will be the next president. >> if biden wins, you're going to have a stock market collapse the likes which you never had. >> he says he paid an income tax of $750. he knew how to game the system. guess what, mr. president, i'm coming for you! >> joe biden says we're in for a long, dark winter. president trump said we're going to distribute the vaccine, we're going to defeat the virus.
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>> his closing argument this week is that the press and people are too focused on covid. co covid-19 i covid-19, covid, covid he's complaining. people are focused on too much. zblf you're right. a lot of people call that treason. we'll see what happens. >> everybody knows who donald trump is. let's show him who we are! >> this morning we're going to take a look at four battleground states, all of which president trump won in 2016 and all of which he will likely to have win again if he wants to keep his job. we will begin with the mother of all battleground, my home state of florida, where presidential elections are often decided already. more than 4 million people voted today in florida and today is the big of the last day of early vote. total of 9.4 million voted in the states so they may surpass that total today. our latest nbc news/marist poll
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out just days ago had joe biden with a four-point lead in which we know can disappear immediately. ellison barber is standing for us in miami. it is miami-dade, not a swing county, it does seem to be the giggest battlegrou biggest battleground between the two campaigns. >> hey, check, it is the last day of early voting. we have a plane flying over us. if polls are right, it's going to be a nail-biert in the state. we are in miami-dade county at a polling site in deerl. we spoke to independent voters who have have said they voted for joe biden. we spoke to people who said they voted for donald trump. you can see here this is the voting line. normally it would be a lot longer but it's not that long right now and that probably has a lot to do with the fact over 60% of registered voters in
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miami-dade have already cast their ballots. if president trump is going to win this state, he needs to beat his margins and his best hope for doing that is is with the help of cuban and venezuelan voters. kbooid hopes to get his voters to the polls. democrats outpace republicans in absentee ballots in the state of florida but florida republicans are actually outpacing democrats when it comes to in-person early voting. that was not the case in 2016. but today is souls pot polls and and democrats are hoping, praying if you will, to shift the early numbers. chuck? >> allison, it's a reminder for us nobody ever wins florida the same way twice. up next, bordering state of georgia, a state democrats carried just once in the last president eight presidential cycles but one party believe it's biden who has the slight edge now going into election
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day. more than 4 million casts in georgia compared to 4 million cast total four years ago. and they have biden up by just a point and a half and it maekz georgia a true toss-up state. it is where we find blayne alexander. she's in atlanta. really, it is about atlanta turnout and distant suburbs. what do you tell us, blayne? >> just the fact we're even talking about the sate of georgia now tells us how much things changed in this once reliably red state. president trump won the state of georgia in 2016 by five points without making a single stop here once he became the party's official nominee. now we're seeing the president twice in the peach state in the final three weeks of this campaign, including a stop today. now, on the democratic side we're seeing a stop from senator kamala harris. also told and tomorrow former president barack obama will be in atlanta and all of this comes on the heels of joe biden's appearance here just last week. so, chuck, in addition to all of these closing arguments though,
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we're going to be watching closely to see exactly how georgia actually handles this election. remember, the last time we saw georgians head to the polls was during the june primary, that's when we saw people waiting in line, outside in the rain for hours casting their ballot and many of the early voters i spoke to this time around say that was a big reason they came out early this time. that coupled with stacey abrams' narrow defeat for governor in 2018. they say they want to make sure there's enough time to trouble shoot, as they say, to say if they come into issues with technology and long lines, they can work that out and have their vote count. as if all of that wasn't enough, this year georgia has not one but two u.s. senate seats up for grabs and democrats are hoping to flip them both, chuck. >> blayne alexander, i'll tell you, if georgia does turn blue, i had somebody say it is not hype, stacey abrams will deserve credit there. anyway, something to watch for tuesday night. let's move up the atlantic coast. we're going to turn to north
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carolina, which democrats have won just once since jimmy carter took it in 1976. at this point more than 4 million people voted in north carolina, it is not far off from the 4.7 million votes cast in total in the state four years ago. in fact when all of today's totals are put in, it's likely north carolina will have already passed that total. our last nbc news/marist poll had biden leading president trump by six points among likely voters. it was a big spread. we are seeing late other polls are finding similar results s morgan shaw is standing by live in north carolina. morgan, does joe biden have momentum at the end? >> he absolutely has momentum, chuck. to be clear, simply put, north carolina is the state to watch. there's no one but two important races to shift the balance of power not only in the state but also in the country. one, you have the president's race. north carolina is essentially a must-win state if president trump wants to stay in the white house. it's a state he won by less than
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four points, less than 200,000 votes in 2016. chuck, right now he's slipping amongst support with the very people who put him there. suburban voters, women voters, college educated voters and those are exactly the voters who joe biden are going after right now. those who may perhaps be disillusioned with the president and particularly is handling of the coronavirus pandemic. chuck, i have to tell you, there's probably no one who needs north carolina more than senator chuck schumer. this one of the critical swing states the democrats are hoping to flip in their quest for three states that can put them back in the balance of power. right now you have a vulnerable incumbent republican who is now being edged out in the polls by a democratic challenger. chuck, this is now on track to be the most expensive u.s. senate race in history. that is now surpassing the 2018 record held by florida. in all of this, chuck, we're wondering is how is it going to affect the state of play in a
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state where already 4 1/2 million people have cast their ballots and we'll have a lot of data on election night but november 12th is the date to watch because thanks to a late-breaking supreme court decision, that is the date by which all of these mail-in ballots must be counted. chuck? >> in an extraordinarily close election, november 12th becomes then the second election deadline, if you will. morgan radford in north carolina, putting it well when it comes to the battle for the senate as well. finally, it's pennsylvania. pennsylvania, once of the three blue wall states. michigan and wish wiconsin and number two. they all fell in 2016, giving mr. trump the presidency. right now pennsylvania appears to be the closest of the three rust belt states. "the new york times"/seattle poll has biden up 6 points, 49/43, pretty consistent in the other states.
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and we're in a part of the state now that the president has to overperform in to overcome joe biden's lead. mara, what do you got? >> chuck, pennsylvania still could be anyone's game. in the seven months i have spent here i met farmers and manufacturing workers who want to support the president even while acknowledging his trade war hasn't helped so much but suburban women are tired of trump's rhetoric and black democratic voters are working to engage those in their communities that didn't show up back in 2016. that's why we saw president trump make four stops here yesterday, playing into his conservative rural base. republicans feel very confident about their 2-1 added voter registration advantage but democrats still hold the overall lead in this state. joe biden working to cut into president trump's margins, especially in the suburbs and he's been majorly outspending the president here in pennsylvania. biden will be in philadelphia today working to engage voters while president trump coming
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back to northeast pennsylvania tomorrow in the final days ahead of election day. chuck? maura bennett in pennsylvania, where if we're waiting for pennsylvania and waiting for that vote count to determine the presidency, some might argue that means it's already been a good night for donald trump. if joe biden wins, we may look back at three moments as key to his success. there's congressman james clyburn's endorsement that sent him on his way in south carolina and on super tuesday wrapped up the nomination. there was president trump's trip and photo-op on st. john's church june 1. and then the president's disastrous performance in the first debate. all three were seismic polling shifts that became durable after the shift. if the president wins, it will largely be because he's a dedicated and durable base that is large and well positioned enough to snag an electoral college victory even when mr. trump loses the popular vote. joining me are our two pollsters, who have been up all
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night, we're not making that up, crunching the numbers, joe macon and jeff pohorwitt. we told you the numbers at the top, it's 10 points. but we want to focus on the virus because if there's movement in the poll, it's over the virus, bill and jeff. we've been tracking, most important issue dealing with the virus and economy and intertwining, do you focus more on the virus over the economy or economy over the virus? mid-october economy had an eight-point edge. the economy still has a eight-point edge but it's now just three points. is this the mid-october surprise, particularly with independent voters the virus the surprise? >> i don't think numbers are changing, chuck. among the numbers you say coronavirus is the most important issue, they're overwhelmingly voting for joe biden by almost 80 points but among people who pick economy, they're voting for trump by 85
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points. you will see the coronavirus number didn't shift. but their question, if the coronavirus magically never happened, this would be a very different election with a very different economy and very different structure for the incoming president. >> jeff horwitt, look, we're reminded, we learned a lot about national polling versus battleground state polling. we have a ten-point lead. in the battleground states, we have biden with a smaller six-point lead. the question a lot of people are going to simply ask, can trump overcome that skix points and when the electoral college? >> it's going to be very hard and it's going to be very hard for a couple of reasons. one is unlike 2016 this is really a referendum on donald trump. we had four years of a trump presidency. we know what it is like. we've see r seen it. we have lived through it. for the first three years wep woder what an unconventional president, how he would address the crisis not in his own making. as far as his presidency, we
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know. the verdict is not good when we have 40% who can prove the job he's doing and handling covid-19. and then the other thing is the numbers really have been stable in terms of the ten points now, 11 and 14 after the debates. there's been no movement to suggest donald trump is making ground. the last point is joe biden. joe biden is knelt positive. his personal ratings improved over time, which was not the case in '16, while donald trump remains net negative. >> i want to put up a couple of other democratic splits, bill. first we have whites with college degrees and whites without college degrees, this has been a split. we've been tracking four years. you can see the split here, 21-point edge for the president among whites without a college degree. a 15-point edge from joe biden. but let's go through the age groups here quickly. biden dominating among 18 to 34, that's not surprising. middle-aged groups are very
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tight with the president with a light edge among 35 to 49 and 50 to 64. but it's 65-plus, bill, that suddenly is 19-point edge, which was a bit of a spike from some of our previous polling. >> yeah, look, there are volatile groups but i think the other thing to look at is who has not voted? among 3-10 people who say they have not voted yet, they're voting for donald trump by almost 30 points and the states to look at, you focus the right thing, white, noncollege, look at the states with huge numbers of white noncollege who have not yet voted. pennsylvania, michigan, ohio and wisconsin. and this election is going to come down to those states again and just like we've seen historic early vote, i think we're going to see historic volt. the other thing to remember like '04, like 2012, those are two incumbent races, bush and obama, where you give smart people a lot of time and a lot of money to change the composition of the
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electorate. the republican party has done a good job registering new people in these states and they devoted a year to try to increase turnout in rural and nonwhite college in these states and i think these states will get very, very close. >> there's certainly evidence of it, particularly in florida for what we've been able to track. jeff, let me end with this and it's something you and bill talk about all the time and it's the importance of the job rating number, foreign incumbent president, because it gives you a hand what the ballot number will be. to put up the graphic here, you can see going back to 1984, just the re-elections, reagan's re-elect approval rating 58, re-election percentage, 59%. george w. bush 36/37. bill clinton bit more of a gap because of a three-way race, 34/49. most two recent re-elections 49% job approvals for bush and obama. president is sitting at 45%. number one, jeff, should we assume his ballot test isn't 42% and it will end up at 45% and
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does this mean game over if suddenly biden's number doesn't drop all the of a sudden and he can make that a winning number? >> look, i think there is some evidence historically that the job rating does track very closely with shares on election day. so far this hasn't borne out for donald trump. we will see. can you make the case the race will tighten somewhat getting donald trump closer to 45. but in a two-way race that will not be enough nationally. we will see how that plays out in the states. and that is the challenge, how does he get a president who never had a positive job rating in 4iz presidency 23489 nbc/"wall street journal" poll above 45%, what he will need? and bill talked about the increase and turnout. in our poll first-time voters who and have the voted before the election are going to biden by 54% to 39%. >> it is a key number we've also seen spike a bit in florida
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especially. big, jeff, thank you both. thank you for the all-nighter. and we've got another all-nighter and all-weakeker coming up. when we come back, how will states handle voting confusion, legal challenges and anything else contested? plus, we will ask nbc news anchor and correspondents what they're expecting election night. and we will begin with my friend lester holt. >> one of the things i will be looking for in this election is the effects of voter suppression, whether it's if nefarious intent, systemic changes or legal challenges. it could become key, of course, in some of these very, very tight races. >> i will be watching my home state, the great state of arizona. fair to say the race is going to be decided in ♪ ♪ ♪
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welcome back. what critically important key to the vote count on tuesday night will be how the votes are counted, what kind of challenges will be raised, where will we see lawsuits over when ballots arrive, postmarked, segregation of ballots, matching signatures, terms like provisional and naked ballots. you better get your glossary out. we'll have two guests dealing with the vote count, kathy boockvar, pennsylvania secretary of state. and i will begin in pennsylvania with the secretary of state there, kathy boockvar. madam secretary of state, thank you for doing this. let me start with what has a lot of us anxious here and that is the timing of the vote count, particularly when the nonelection day vote starts to get counted. we already know as many as seven counties won't even begin counting mail-in ballots in wednesday morning.
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explain to viewers how much patience we need to have with pennsylvania. >> thank you very much, chuck, for having me on. i really appreciate it. let me start off by saying clearly 2.4 million pennsylvanians cast their ballot by mail. this will be ten times as many as the last time we had a presidential election in pennsylvania. yes e. it will take longer. but having said that, i want to be clear that elections have never been called election night. our military and overseas ballots, men and women serving our country, they had a full week after election day to cast their ballot. so i just want to set that straight, this is a process and we want to make sure every single vote of every ballot voter is securely and accurately counted. so to your question, i expect the overwhelming majority of ballots in pennsylvania, those mail-in absentee ballots as well
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as in-person will be counted in a matter of days. having a ton of equipment, best practices in place are counting in the most part clouounting 24 until it's done and kudos to public servants who will make sure it gets done as quick as possible. >> you did confirm we're looking at days. there's a specific window people are wondering about, tuesday through friday and ballots you are turned in with a postmark on tuesday but after 8:00 p.m. are you still setting those ballots aside thinking they could get thrown out? >> you know, what we want to do, especially at this form of the stage of the voters, ignore the lawsuits, ignore the hype. just get your ballots in today. best way you can make sure your ballot will count is if you get it in by 8 p.m. on november 3rd.
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and there's never been so many places in pennsylvania to do that. election offices, secure drop boxes, other elections. you can find that out votespa.com. but the standing law in pennsylvania right now is ballots, as long as they are received by november 5th, post marked by november 3rd, will be counted. but for effective administration and making sure we have clarity in the counties, those ballots will be segregated but they can be counted. >> when will they be counted? will you count them immediately or wait until the courts decide what to do with those ballots? >> so we're going to issue guidance within a day explaining to the counties how to canvas. the idea is not to wait. they should be canvassed as soon as the 8:00 p.m. time frame passes and new ballots start coming in. those will be canvassed. >> secretary of state kathy boockvar, good luck. there's only the rest of the
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country perhaps watching everything that happens in pennsylvania. i know you're probably doing the election administrator's prayer, which is you hope it's not close but that said, good luck, and we'll be watching. >> thank you very much, chuck. appreciate it. let me turn to nate persily, our legal action expert here. nate, just heard what she said about -- i want to start there because if we don't have a call on tuesday night, how pennsylvania perhaps counts its votes, these late-arriving ballots, this postmark issue that is so longer apparently acceptable if it's postmarked by election day. they will set them aside, count them but it sounds like they will be a separate count. >> that's right. i think what we've seen in pennsylvania is they're trying to take a risk adverse approach. they're going to segregate these ballots just to make sure that if they are in doubt after the election, that it doesn't call the final results into question.
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i think that this is because we had conflicting signals sent by the u.s. supreme court. we had a lot of litigations in pennsylvania but it's a pretty prudent move. >> where, besides pennsylvania, what other battleground states do you expect to see quite a bit of litigation? >> we've already seen over 300 lawsuits in this election so we're seeing it in battleground states, nonbattleground states. we've seen quite a bit in north carolina, michigan, wisconsin. also places like texas, where we had a lawsuit that was just filed yesterday. we've seen some interesting rulings in minnesota even recently. so we are seeing it all around the country. this is sort of the legacy of bush versus gore 20 years ago, is that the lawyers are becoming an important part of the campaign as well. >> and it does seem as if ballot arrival seems to be where there is some room for litigation. how did that become such a vague
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deadline when you would think a postmark on election day seems pretty simple to me. >> several states provide for post marks on election day but many states say you have to receive the ballot on election day. a lot of what's happened is response to the coronavirus pandemic. what a lot of administrators did is extended the deadlines or courts extended the deadlines so that led to further lawsuits to further clarify what the rules were and those ended up at the u.s. supreme court, where there's been a fight as to whether nonlegislators, which is to say state court or legislators can extend the deadlines. >> i want to pull up a poll from umass/amherst that just came out earlier this week. possibility of election-related violence, 80% in total were concerned. various levels how concerns. 17% not concerned. 80% concerned, i mean, i think
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we've all been through a rough year. everybody -- the public's been feeling this. how concerned are you about election day violence? >> well, i'm concerned about a lot of things in this election but we really have to focus on the positives. if you asked me six months ago whether we would have 90 million people who had already voted and expected 150 million voters who would have voted in the election, would i hai would hav shocked. this is 100-year flood of voters we are seeing. while there's always reason to be concern and vigilant we shouldn't see ice laid incidence of problems and assume that's the story. while we who work in the field are concerned about these type of dysfunctions, there's no indication now in the early going it's posing a big problem. >> what's the expectation a responsible government could address when it comes to voting? >> we need a national effort to secure the vote. i hope after this election that we sort of have an autopsy on
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our election system and see what we can do to make sure that the election runs smoothly. we really do need to celebrate these local election administrators. i have to tell you, over the last six months we had hundreds of thousands of local unsung heroes who have been dedicating their time to adapt the election infrastructure to deal with the pandemic and they've done an unbelievable job. >> yes, in the face of getting berated sometimes on social media or by political candidates, it really does doesn't make it less stressful. nate, personally, i hope we don't see a lot of you this week because if we do, it means there's bad stuff going on, but i'm glad we have you in our corner tuesday night, sir. >> thank you. whether we come back, both sides claim they're confident of victory. they both feel good about what they're seeing on the groujd. guess what, only one will be night. panelist next. >> i will be watching whether
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joe biden gets a big enough margin out of miami-dade to offset the president's advantage in other parts of the state. also georgia, north carolina and texas ha texas, have big changes in the suburbs given the president the edge? we will be watching a lot of states early but the one i will ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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welcome back. pam panel is with us. our election eve panel sa nbc kasie hunt, nbc news correspondent kristen welker, rich lowry, national mizzou, and
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former democratic senator from missouri, claire mccaskill. i want to say this actually has been a campaign, we've seen a decent amount of travel but i want to compare the travel we've seen in the apparently the last ten days. here's the joe biden travel schedule. he's made it so seven states essentially with about ten stops in seven states over since the last debate. now here's donald trump, who basically has gone through 12 states, basically, about double the amount of stops in states. kristen welker, you traveled with both of the candidates this week, have seen a piece of both of them. look, the trump frenetic schedule, they basically are campaigning how they view the virus to be. >> that's right, chuck. this is a tale of two very different campaigns. many i was in florida and georgia this past week. i can tell you there's so much enthusiasm on the ground. but we are seeing really a stark
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difference in how both of these candidates are campaigning. president trump holding huge rallies, very little social distancing, few masks. joe biden on the other hand has drive-in rallies. it's all about social distancing, not as many people. and the messaging very different as it relates to the key issue, fighting covid-19. one trump official telling me, look, this election will be won and lost on covid-19 and inside trump world there is some concern his messaging hasn't been disciplined enough. he's trying to argue the country is turning the corner as it relates to covid. they want him focused on fighting the virus and the economy. for joe biden, he's arguing president trump waved the white flag when it comes to covid but inside biden world, there are some democrats worried he hasn't been aggressive enough on the campaign trail. i know the trump world feeling bullish on florida, north
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carolina, those critical states. the biden campaign has a little ptsd from 2016 so they're cautiously optimistic. >> i want to stick with covid here, kasie, the president all week long has been complaining about the focus on covid. here's an example. >> and a safe vaccine is coming very quickly. you're going to have it momentarily that eradicates the virus and we're rounding the turn regardless. you know that. and you know everything is covid covid covid, you know that. you turn on the news, covid, covid, covid. if you get it, you will get better and then you will be immune and it goes away. you know, our doctors get more money if somebody dies from covid. you know that, right? >> these are the front pages in milwaukee sent signal, milwaukee traa bus, columbus dispatch, all front page highlights with spike in cases locally, spike in deaths locally, spike in hospitalizations locally.
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this is an awfully big gamble by the president. >> this is the coronavirus election, chuck, and it's clear from those clips you just played of president trump that he knows it. former president obama mocked president trump saying he was jealous of the media coverage, that trump was jealous of the media coverage the virus was getting. of course, not how that works. and these spikes in these states are in many ways reflective of the policy decisions that have been made. there are also questions about whether these rallies that the president is holding are contributing directly to coronavirus spikes in some of these swing states. we've obviously seen the numbers with seniors in our new "wall street journal"/nbc news poll out this morning. if you and i were talking about seniors potentially going for the democrat four years ago, i think we would have laughed at
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ourselves in many ways. all of this due to the virus. and you see the early voting, talking to pollsters, the turnout. literally every single person in america is affected by there. there's no hiding from it. >> rich lowry, we were here four years ago, though i don't think the numbers look nearly the same as they look now. many are we missing something? do you think we're missing something? >> obviously, you much prefer to be joe biden at the moment. there's been almost no sign of any tightening of the polls nationally but you look at the traditional red states that are battlegrounds now plus florida, and this is a race balanced on an ice edge between a potential biden blowout and trump getting to the cusp of 270. i say the cusp because he can nip and tuck his way into all of these states, arizona, florida, north carolina, georgia, texas and he still needs a blue wall and probably pennsylvania.
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and that's why if you look at the travel map he just had up, you would think trump's now an official resident of florida. you would think he's an official resident of pennsylvania. they're a step behind there. their voters will come on election day but they need them in a massive way, biblical way to overcomes what's happening in the suburbs in pennsylvania and elsewhere around the country. >> claire mccaskill brought up a theory i have in this race that each state in the battleground can be very, very tight but they could all tip in one direction giving a big gap in the electoral college. >> that's true. there's no question it could tip big time one way or the other. on the other hand, who knew we would be talking so much about north carolina and georgia at this point in the election? clearly, the biden campaign is on offense and the trump campaign is on defense. trump is really ignore,
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relatively speaking, some states he has to win. democrats are afraid of the polling and fear motivates. so i think this narrative that the 2ur7bout on election day will be heavily, heavily weighted pro-trump, i'm not so sure about that. >> look, with the closing on the virus, i think you're right to say, let's wait to see what the vote actually looks like. let me pause it there. when we come back, we're going to have a lot of fun. we're talking senate races. first, we will give you a guide what to expect when you're electing. how to watch the returns on election night. >> probably looking at florida, florida, florida, let's see what the sunshine state decides. also, how many of the 32 million latinos eligible to vote will come out? they could have an impact on florida, on georgia, on texas, on nevada, on arizona and a whole lot more. will women who align with
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welcome back. it's download time. how to watch the returns after polls close tuesday in a year, like we said, will be unlike any other and test every political junky's patience. the big show will start at 7:00. that's when polls close in six states including georgia and most of florida. the parts seen here in gold, as you know, panhandle closes an hour later. half hour after that, polls close in two more states everyone will be watching, north carolina and ohio, both will give us some interesting clues about both of those regions. if biden looks like a winner in any of those states, we might be able to call the election erlty but don't count on that.
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in florida we will watch a few key counties, miami-dade for the latino vote, hill berio for the suburban both and tiny hernando county just to see how president trump is doing to the voters who delivered that state to him in 2016. 8:00 polls close in 16 more states, including pennsylvania. most of michigan, little bit of it will close an hour later and most of texas, another little bit out west will close an hour later. everything but the gray in both of those states, polls close. michigan and pennsylvania, that's going to be very slow. that vote in pennsylvania, they can't even start counting until tuesday morning and in michigan they can't count until the polls close, early votes. so we could be waiting for them for some time. even if president trump holds texas, a tight result would be on ominous sign for republicans in years to come. now, at 9:00 p.m. we get polls closing in most of the other big background, arizona, minnesota, wisconsin and nebraska, results of minnesota
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and wisconsin could take a while to come for the same reason, early votes take a while to count. democrats are expecting victory in both of those places. now there's little doubt president trump will take nebraska but biden is favored in the congressional district there around omaha. and in a close election, that could produce one very big important electoral vote. and then there's arizona. the early vote may be already tallied and released within an hour of poll closing and everyone will be watching maricopa county, which produces more than half of the state's vote, making it really hard to win the state without it. we can final find one instance in the last decade where somebody lost maricopa barely and won a statewide race. bottom line, if biden wins any of the other states or ohio early, expect a new president in january. if mr. trump starts picking them off, we may be in for a very long election night actually and
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test. the senate battle ground is as big as we have seen in decades, there are 18 races that could be decided by single digits. the majority makers for each side. north carolina. iowa, had ernst. maine, a race we won't know the results for because of voting, nail biter. one-point race, and the two georgia races. one will be in a run-off. the special election, between collins, loeffler, and warnock. we are expecting them in a run-off there. and the other race, if nobody
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gets 50 is in a run-off. rich, if those are your majority maker state, you have to feel good about iowa. what about everything else? >> this is a huge thing. huge. if biden wins and republicans hold the senate, his presidency is neutered from the beginning. republicans are losing in colorado, arizona and probably maine, you focus on north carolina, the next most vulnerable. this race, between a democratic in embroiled in personal scandal. and a terrible candidate, could have enormous consequences. you wonder how much the donald trump effect, on personal stuff shielded that race. democrats are quietly optimistic that georgia could avoid a
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run-off. that would change the calculus on the senate map. >> no question. you know the most unpopular popitition is in america? it is not donald trump, it is mitch mcconnell. they want to defeat trump, but they want to remove mitch mcconnell. there was is a respected poll showing greenfield up by the same margin. don't think iowa and north carolina and maine are in any way decided for the republicans. this is all going to come down to a few voteos election day. >> the one thing about the senate race, so many could take days to find out. alaska will be a tough race. i want to not ignore the house. but a big picture.
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a republican source said to me, as long as republicans have more members of the house after the '08 wave. after the 2008 elections, 257-178. 178 is the floor here. right now, the current make-up of congress, 197 republicans, right now. bottom line, republicans expect to lose seats, not gain, is that right? >> i think that is right. democrats expect to gain. i think it is most likely in the single digits. not necessarily the floor that you showed. that would be a blood bath for republicans, if the house was down around those numbers. the president is just, we cannot underscore this enough, such a drag for most republican candidates.
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the question in my mind, yes, the president is bad for them. republicans feel like it was a lot worse two, three weeks ago, when the president was hospitalized for coronavirus, after the first devastating debate. if the vote was held them, republicans believe they would have lost the senate. what is going on in texas? is georgia going to swing? if things are relatively normal as we conceive them to be, to the extent it is possible. if it is not, they could see a bloodbath too. >> this just in, the white house deciding to respond to dr. anthony fauci, who did an interview, with the post, critical of the president's handling, the white house, with an on-the-record statement, taking it to fauci.
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they want to close with a feud with a feud with anthony fauci. >> accusing anthony fauci of playing politics. in the critical battle ground states, one more data point that is putting these vulnerable republican candidates in a box. making it that much more difficult for them on election day, check. >> no incumbent republican wants to be asked, whose side do you take on the pandemic, fauci or trump? >> the information and the data is the star of our show. tune n tuesday, in case you didn't know. that is all we have for today. thank you for watching. whether or not the election is over because -- it is sunday. "meet the press."
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i shouldn't even be here they say i have georgia made, but you know what? i said i promised we have to be here >> honk if you want america to lead again honk if you wanto trust -- americans to begin to trust each other again. one day to go. the candidates have a whirlwind schedule today as they try to lock up any still undecided voters ahead of election day tomorrow businesses in cities big and small are preparing for the potential unrest in the wake of the elections. as walmart reverses their decision tpu

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