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. this sunday tragedy on miami beach. 156 people still missing in that building collapse. >> we have official hope, we are trying to hold onto whatever remains. >> the heroic moment. >> hopes in finding more survivors. >> our top priority continue to be search and rescue and saving any lives we can. >> now a three-year-old report
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surfaces identifying major damage structure damage from the billing. i will talk to miami-dade mayo levine cava. >> we did what we came to do. >> this bill comes, i am not signing it. >> where does this deal stands now? >> my guest, bill cassidy and alexander ocasio-cortez of new york. and the justice department suing georgia of its new voting law. this is just days after senate republicans blocked consideration of new voting rights legislation. joining me for inside analysis,
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andrea mitchell. yamiche alcindor. >> welcome to sunday, it is "meet the press." >> announcer: this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> it is sunday morning, we'll get to politics of the day. we'll begin with the terrible tragedy with the miami beach condo collapse. 156 people remained missing in the collapse of the champagne tower south complex. hopes are fading that more survivors will be found in the rubble. the death toll could end up roughly at par with oklahoma city. these terrible images of the building pancaking one on top of
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each other. joining me now is our own sam brock. we know yet more fires in the rubble slowed down the process. i know officials insist this is still search and rescue. what can you tell us about how realistic it is that they're going to find more survivors? >> well, they are maintaining hope. that's the best i can tell you. we are entering fourth day of the search. on the other side is a pile of rubble that is three or four stories high. that rubble is incredibly fragile. we know search and rescue crews out having much more better accessibility than they did 24 hours ago. they had to use infrared technology to try and then
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deploying water. i can tell you we were several imagine what the conditions would be like on top of the rubble. you also have course of the day. canine searching for the scent of human life and sonar and heavy machinery of what you see right there. the crane that's picking up big pieces of debris and big chunks of concrete. chuck, i got to tell you i spoke with someone with decades of urban search and rescue, he anticipates it will be a couple more weeks in his gut of this going on of recovery efforts. 156 people still unaccounted for this morning. unimaginable figure, chuck. >> a lot of people that want to
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know why did this happen. we got treasure-trove papers relieved of surfside. there seems to be some evidence of what may have been the initial cause. where is the investigation going? >> reporter: so here is where we stand, big news dropped on friday night when the inspection report in 2018, consultant conducted for the recertification of that building in its own words described significance cracks and breaks in the concrete. there was a concrete slab underneath the pool deck needed to be switched out in a time my manner. that was two and half years ago. those kinds of cracks and spalding are not abuilding. it is been there 40 years seaside. look, we are lawyers and not engineers. if there were imminent signs of
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failure, it would have been big bold print in that report and it was not. >> there was a fatal flaw in construction from the beginning. sam brock, good work, sir, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. joining me now is danielle levine cava. i know it has been a tough 48 hours. anything you can update over night, any new signs of hope? >> thank you for following this important story, we did control the fire and the smoke as of about noon yesterday. the search and rescue operation continues throughout the night. >> you announced the decision that you will reinspect anything that process and why did you
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just start with buildings that are 40 years old or older? >> we have a recertification process that starts at 40 years and it is every ten year there after. it is important that we make sure that all of the buildings have followed that procedure that we have the necessary report on file and all the remediation that has been ordered in those reports are recommended in those reports going forward. we'll do the deep dive over the next 30 days to make sure we are up to date. 60% is in cities and cities are going to have to do their own. >> there is voluntary evacuations of some of the other buildings in the complex here. is the county going to be able to provide resources for those that don't want to stand in
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these buildings for fears they are not structurally sound? >> just the building that's the sister building to theside auth voluntary evacuation. yes, anyone who chooses to leave can be supported. it is also true that the town building inspector went and did not find any causes of concerns. >> this brought back a lot of memory for those of us went through hurricane andrew in south florida. sadly we found out in the 70s and 80s, building inspection in the county were pretty shoddy. panels fallen and a grand jury back then overhauled the building codes and many building codes were overhauled. this building was built in 1981.
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do you think you should order a review of any building that was built essentially in the '70s and '80s, prehurricane andrew and have them all reinspected with a fine tooth comb? >> we have a strong building code as you know and based on hurricane andrew as you say we learned so much from that and buildings subsequent have been built to a high standard. when we get this information, we may look at what else we may do. at this point we review of the 40 plus. look, this as far as we know and home is anomaly but the investigation is ongoing. right now we are focused on search and rescue. >> i understand that. we have seen the initial release of papers about the inspection of this building and clearly
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some flaws were identified three years ago. hindsight makes it all look haunting when we are reading about it today. why would you at this point because it is going through the process that has to give you more concern that there would be more trouble buildings in the area? >> so i have been speaking to my fellow mayor of cities and we are talking about what we'll do in the municipalities as well as miami-dade county. i can assure you that we'll take an aggressive look at everything. >> are you getting all the federal and state support you need? >> we are very grateful. not only the state of florida has been here on the force but the president on the morning of the disaster called to offer all possible assistance and by the end of that day we had fema
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a approval. we are working super hard to dpet everything we need and as well as support around the world. >> with hurricane season just began. the bare island at miami beach have not been directly hit in a generation or if not more. andrew missed the barrier island with a direct hit. do you feel as if the barrier island is ready for this hurricane season? >> you know we have an aggressive drill for hurricane season. we know how to manage hurricanes, our emergency operation center is ready to go. it is activated because of this disaster. we are on top of it. of course we'll deal with whatever comes our way. >> finally, i am thinking of the first responders who are going into very unstable situation. you talked about the fire that
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was put out. we remember after 9/11, many first responders ended up with breathing issues and air quality ended up becoming harmful to them. what kind of protection do you put in place to keep our first responders as healthy as possible. >> our first concern is those who are saving lives. we have all of the protective gears, they have respiratory equipment. we have been using fans obviously quelling the fire and smoke. if it was not a condition in which they could breathe, they have had no avoid that area. we are keeping our people safe because they are sacrific danie. >> quite the first year you have challenging for you, hang in
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there, we are all pulling for you. >> thank you chuck. when mr. biden said on thursday we have a deal, it seems like the bipartisan accomplishment he promised to skep i cans that he could deliver. republicans were angered when mr. biden announced he would not sign this. >> only one comes to me, i am not going to sign it. >> well, lindsey graham, one of the 11 republican senators on board, if he's going to tie them together, he can forget it. i am not doing that. that's extortion. yesterday with the deal apparently in jeopardy, the president walked back his statement a bit. in a lengthy statement he writes, my comments also created
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the impression that i was issuing a veto threat on the plan i agreed to which was not my intend. >> many won't go along without that two bill guarantee. where does that lead us? >> joining me now is bill cassidy who was part of the group at the white house. bipartisan group, what was initially the a celebatory day. >> is the deal still in jeopardy or is it enough? >> i sure hope it is enough. it is going to provide the infrastructure that the american people want that they need. that'll make our country prosperous for all americans. i hope it is enough and we'll see going forward. i will continue to work for the bill. >> it sounds like it is enough for you.
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there is a little bit to quote "casablanca," are republicans quite shocked? you knew exactly what the situation was. what makes, tieing them together is more fraught for some than it is back-to-back of the way it is likely to be? >> first, we were assured that the two would not be linked. why is that important? first, there is bipartisan opposition to the bipartisan in both chambers. number two, republicans think that portion is bad for our country. we have an inflation rate that's higher than it has been quite some time. that bill will make it higher. we won't want to be apart of
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something that may coerce it. this infrastructure bill is good for all americans. it is going to make us more productive and create a lot of jobs. if you sink both we lose the advantage of that which is the infrastructure bill. with the infrastructure problem that we see and some experts say as good as this bill is, the problem we face in this country of rebuilding our roads and bridges and adding 26 century technology that this bill is not enough. do you accept that criticism? >> i am told estimates the most we can absorb for year, hard infrastructure, roads and bridges and etcetera, before it becomes wasteful. that's the capacity that we have. by the way, we go further.
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we also have $47 billion for resiliency. i was discussing this with the white house. does that include things like working in rivers to make sure they don't flood as they say that's absolutely. but, we also have the other infrastructure that'll protect those roads and bridges and tunnels. there is a lot here to like. it is a good bill. >> what's your case to some skeptical republicans who on one hand want to go home and say hey, i did get some work done. i was able to secure funding for this bridge over here or this restoration over there. but somehow the political chattering class tells them, hey you are going to give joe biden a win because you are supporting a bill he supports and i know we are so politically cynical in this town, sadly there is quite a few senators stick their finger in the wind and make a
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decision on it. how do your message to those republican senaoyou talk to con who are stuck in traffic for an hour and a half getting to work and home, three hours a day that they don't spend with their family, they want a bridge coming to a town near them. my wife says roads and bridges is a woman's problem if you will. women are taking children to school and doing shopping. the more time she spends on the road, the less time she spends of high of value. if you speak to her, she's going to say this is a good deal. if you spoke with survivors, if you speak to those communities, they really like the resilient
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piece. >> senator mcconnell, we know if he does not like something, he can convince about 40 republicans voting no. is he still comfortable of where this deal is going even though he does not personally support it. >> mitch has been, if we can pull it off. i think mitch will favor it. he does not like the president throwing the wrench in here. that's not what we were told and so of course that caused a little bit of oh, let's think about this. mitch mcconnell wants infrastructures as much as anyone else. it will come together as it is. >> i got to ask you the former president is on what some deemed a revenge tour.
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he's trying to go after people voted to impeach him or con vick him. how much does it concern you politically? >> it does not concern me at all. if republicans focus on doing what is right, if they focus on their one issue as my wife calls its the roads and the bridges, the decrease of the risk of wildfires and floods, future politics will take care of it themselves. good policies is good politics. this is good policy. >> senator cassidy bill. trying to strike this deal, thank you for coming on and sharing your perspective. >> thank you, chuck. >> when we come back. we'll hear from one of the introducing the new citi custom cash℠ card, a different kind of card that rewards dan where his spending is trending. just ask stepping outside his comfort zone dan...
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pelosi told her democratic conference members there ain't no infrastructure bill without the reconciliation bill. that would include more money for education, child poverty and money to fight climate change and deal with the economy, all paid for by tax hikes by the wealthy. joining me now is congresswoman alexander ocasio-cortez. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you for having me. >> president biden -- why why we call this staple a walk back or not? his clarification was it a veto
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threat or was it not? what he said on thursday seems to cheer progressives? are you a little upset by the walk back he made yesterday or do you consider it a walk back at you will. >> you know i think regardless of the president's statements, there are three key chess pieces that we have to align, the senate, house and the white house of the presidency. i believe that the president is more than able to take his own approach. i have we have to talk about the missing piece which is the house. i believe that in the house and house democrats are very committed to making sure that you know senator cassidy's word of infrastructure is centered on women and in addition to a bridge you need a babysitter, it is important that we pass reconciliation bill and a family's plan that expands child care that lowers the cost of
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medicare that supports families in the economy. >> would you like the president to be issuing a veto threat on the bipartisan deal if the reconciliation package does not important is that it is very important for the president to know that how progressives and i believe the democratic caucus is here to ensure he does not fail. we are here to make sure he's successful and making sure we do have larger infrastructure plan. the feedback the matter is where we can welcome republicans in 2 agreement. they are welcome to join. that does not mean it should be limited by republicans.
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we have a house majority and the white house and i believe that we can make sure that he's successful in executing a strong agenda for working families. >> the democratic majority are precarious, they are narrow in the house. and extraordinary narrow in the senate. what i think of the makeup of the coalition, we dan make a case 50% or a slight majority is progress sifs. progressives. i heard from more conservative democrats in the house who thinks $3 trillion is too much. is there a baseline number that you can tolerate before you come out against the deal? >> well, to me it is not just about a price tag, right? >> you can have an enormous price tag that's chalk-fuelled.
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like wise you can also have an infrastructure plan that's too small and it is so small that it does not invest in any meaningful way that people can feel positive impacts in their everyday lives. >> it is not about a price tag. although i do think there is a level where we go too small. it is really about what impact are we making? >> i believe that it is important that we talk about and three trillion dollars. they're spread out over ten years. >> so when you break it down into a per-year cost it is much smaller. we need to understand that this is our one big shot, not just in terms of family, medicare and child caribou on climate change.
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>> the icc report just came out this week shows us we'll be in devastated consequences if we are. we need to have real deal, real investment that will help actually electrify in transitioning a lot of focus so that they have the option to take the rail where ever they need to take it. >> obviously a lot of this depends on the senate democrats holding together. i know where you stand on the filibuster. i am curious of what you thought of senator sinema where she made this defense in keeping the filibuster. would it be good for our country if we did this, getting rid of the filibuster.
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look, the argument she's making is let's say get rid of the filibuster and get all of these progressive changes that you would like to see and the roles are reversed and everything gets rolled back. >> is that good enough defense to use for the filibuster? >>. no, it is an argument of saying well, why do anything at all but in case something in our future may have changed it. >> past legislation with majority and they are fine and here is the thing. democratic legislation wants enacted is popular. >> prps perhaps -- they tried to claw back on legislation that has passed by simple majority in the senate. they have not been able to because democratic policies are popular. and, once they are enacted, they
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are politically difficult to undo. >> so i do not believer in the defeatism of saying we'll lose the future. this will automatically mean that anything we do now is going to be reverse so we'll not do anything now. >> our job is to legislative and help people. even if that's the case, would it be better to dpet people and voting rights for three years instead of zero years. even you can see the point that i don't think it is true in the first place. beyond that the argument is okay, why 60 votes and why not stop at 70 votes or 80 votes to pass any legislation. >> why defend the 50-vote when the senate amplifies minority power.
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the 50 democratic senators already representing. millions more americans. and so i would argue that 50 republican senators is already a bill in kind of filibuster as firewall. >> all right, congresswoman ocasio-cortez, appreciate you appreciate you coming on. we still got a lot of counting to do. maybe we ought to wait until the analysis. >> thank you very much. >> president biden high hire act and he's keeping up with hod rate republicans and progressive democrats together to prover if democrats together to prover if he's right. ♪ ♪
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welcome back, the panel is here, joshua johnson on nbc and andrea mitchell and yamiche alcindor. we laid out three way that is this bipartisan deal can get derailed. bill cassidy thinks maybe the president's statements help comb the water. >> is it the democratic
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consensus on rivals? >> we heard how that could be -- i sense there is a attempt to not make the white house mad. i thought that was interesting there. snare three, we called it the great unknown. these are majorities. >> anything can happen and suddenly the majority can chaeng. change. >> and mcmccondo want it. >> people want infrastructure but i never in my experience seen two bills so different
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moving in and which pelosi and consumer said is their bottom line. you heard nancy pelosi say it ain't going to happen without it. that precipitated the president mised speaking so badly. he never said anything like that ochlt for both of these to work through. they have to wait. obvious they are going to be writing advantage. >> i think that senators like moran and others are vel. >> i think you are one senate staffers here. >> you know how these compromise bill. that's the thing i sit here and you are like they're not going to vote on this until september. i think that's going to happen 3,000 times between now and september. >> i think it is absolutely right. how many trillions are we
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talking about now? >> they have to negotiate that number. >> for republicans i think they're going to increasingly at the closer we get until the end of the year and next year's election, they'll start to ask themselves question a, are we paving the way towards this other reconciliation bill which we say you can spend 1.3 or $1.4 trillion but then you are going to do three or -- >> can i ask one question, where is all this money coming from? >> we are not worried of the deficit for a long time. >> with this week really underscores is how fragile booip san ship is in washington and a delegate dance that's being done. i realized number three is one through 99, right?
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>> thinking can happen. with the president said i want both of these bills on my desk. he had the long 600 words statement where elves trying to assure people that yes, i am behind the bipartisan bill. there is this feeling and i was on the white house hen the president waggered out with the senator. of course not the veto there but we have to remember the white house has been saying and democrats have been saying for a long time they wanted the second bill. >> this is a real understanding from democrats and republicans. we can have this but you can't say too tight together. >> this will be, too. >> this year. >> yes, in the first year. that's ammunition just speaking to a republican base. >> there is nothing like a disaster to focus on the mind.
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i have never spent a night in a building and wonder if it is going to hold me up by morning? >> i stay in the hotel right across the street from here, i lay-in bed and just before my eyes closed, i thought about the con do. there is nothing like a disaster that focuses the mind. the idea that we have infrastructure of this building and you and i have both in south florida. new york's subway have flooded the last few years. >>. >> and the national institute building have said for every dollar you spend, it will donate $6 to the leave. >> a category 4 hurricane killed 113 people drowned and crushed.
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i understand all these olitical calulations. >> there is something you can do about it. >> there is one thing about the pay force. they are completely made up. if you are not doing electric car tags which the house have really high. >> you are not doing -- >> you are doing irs connection? ? >> it is the old prod and abuse. >> we always think there is so much money in it? >> both sides, nobody wants to face reality than there is no way to pay for any of these. in flay vacation, let's see where we are. >> do the democrats have the vote $3 trillion for con son
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silluation? >> nancy already lost one vote from the modern, she can't afford to lose more twan two votes, right? >> this is a fragile situation for democrats, they're trying to get senator manchin and senator right now. there is something to be said of the idea that we are talking about 156 to 200 souls that may possibly missing at the end of this. it is really, really scary of the idea that, that building is an anomaly that it came down but the fact that it was dealing with corruption and the fact it was consulted and major structural buildings. are the buildings in our cities
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and states safe? >> that may be one of the things that could help this from your list. >> this is about responsibility government. >> you want to talk about south florida and without that, all the money in the world is not going to make a difference. >> this is a remainder,hoir about who you are voting in. >> and to see it now. it was just one of those you got to -- >> you got angry all over again. >>
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act. >> welcome back, that was merrick garland announcing they're going to challenge georgia's laws. yamiche, this feels like the first of many attempts trying to challenge the law of georgia's. >> democrats realize that it is not going to be solved in a legislative way. there has to be a judicial in a court battle ahead. when i talk to civil rights activists, they want to see two distinctive things. not only suppressing people votes but nullify. they want to see more judges on the court. this is a crisis in america. who will can get the access to
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vote. if you essentially and critics would say if you don't like the way you voted, we'll take away your vote. that's a real problem if you look at philadelphia's state legislatures whether or not they can nullify millions of votes in philly. that can be a problem. >> i think this is where the multiple conversations here. the fight about access of the polls and who decides what vote counts. i want to put up a map here. we have about a dozen states that attempted to either change or already have changed laws or restricted local officials from what they can do to change election laws. the question i have is whether the courts can effectively stop this? >> there is a whole bunch of issues at play here. i don't think the republican
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party wants to be known as the party of voter suppression. because of covid, there were a lot of changes on a state by state level. it was confusing to me, when states seek to adjust based on some of those changes, for example, drop boxes. could georgia never have drop boxes before? this is the law that merrick garland was talking about. there is going to be problem. they need to go after republican-run states for laws that mirrors things that exist in delaware or new york or connecticut or new hampshire. i think the other challenge is that i think is hard to argue we are in a crisis. how many voted in the last election? more than ever before. we have unbelievable voter
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engagement. there are reasonable arguments to be had here but i am not sure if those are the ones that's going on. >> i want to get to the point where the bigger mistake is there is not a new push to renew the voting rights act. i don't know merrick garland has the tool for pushing back. >> it is a nullification. >> they write it so it changes when it expires when the election term expires. it is the most bizarre attempt. it is specifically aimed at people of color and people who have voted in the last election, people with access because of the changes, because of covid, they had more access.
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it is taking away sunday's voting. it is exactly aimed at minority. >> it added and not take away. >> it is so explicit that in each of these cases if you talk to lawyers on both sides of the case, there are no question in georgia. >> i talk to state republicans, why are you doing this? it was voter fraud. you had william barr out with the interview of the atlantic saying it is bs, all of the trump stuff about - >> he said the whole word. it was bs. president trump didn't like that he lost and he said the election was stolen. republicans understand he had a lot of influence of the base.
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they are following suits in this conspiracy theory and we have to base all the conversation and the fact that there is no widespread voter fraud and black people and people of color who fought and die for the right to vote of their access of the ballot box. is the box now in jeopardy? >> that makes me have a little bit of hope in the long-term of this whole voter suppression, big lie thing is such a move. it feels like hail mary. both parties know where the country is going. it is a strong core that people buy into this. when i talk to younger people, younger voters more and more politically engaged, this feels very much like a last gasp especially among people, who are serious about seeing everyone. >> i understand. i think it is important that we
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separate it out of the big lie. >> hang on a second. i can't. there may be people who can't or legislatures who don't want to. i agree with you arizona and this transparent attempt to replace someone they don't like is wrong. on the other hand, i think part of the argument that we are making about places like georgia is unjust. they're allowing sunday voing and expanded access. and the secretary of state, raffensberger is a villain of the georgia's rights. >> the first was a message of everything loaded in. >> that to me is a mistake.
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>> i appreciate that, thank you for watching, we'll be back next week even on independence day, it is "meet the press."
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