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thanks to some complicated science can be 1 and 0 simultaneously. i will admit if you are a regular viewer of press here, you know my favorite explanation comes from justin trudeau, yes the prime minister of canada who a reporter assumed had no idea what quantum computering was. >> very simply quantum computers work by -- no, no, no, don't interrupt me. when you walk out of here, you will know more. no, some of you will far less about quantum computering. but most of you normal computers work power going tlul a wire or not 1 or 0 binary systems. what quantum states allow for is much more complex information to be encoded into a single bit. regular bit is 1 or 0 on or off. quantum state can be much more complex because things can be particle and waef at the same

time and uncertainty about quantum states allows us to encode more information into a much smaller computer. so that's what is exciting about quantum computing and that's where we're are going. >> i will one of my fav ret sound bites. let's bring in peter chapman ceo of quantum computer company iiq. itsds hard to follow justin trudeau but due your best. not only you but a number of companies have quantum computers today, right? >> that is indeed correct. thanks for having me, too. you can find quantum computers up on the cloud at microsoft's azure. >> you can think about it decades ago you rented your time

on main fwram, you can use it on quantum computer? >> yes, and if you have a couple of bucks you can do the whole world in quantum. >> that's extraordinarily. let's say i'm a pretty good coder do i need to know a whole new set of code to run things on a quantum computer? >> if you wanted to create a really big program you would. however, each of the cloud provider provides jupiter notebooks which are textbooks of quantum so you can follow along. >> i like your example of hello world using the most powerful computers in the world to spit out print hello world. that would be awesome. what would i actually do with it? because there are very fast computers out there that are simulating atomic weapons and things that are running on regular silicon with regular 1 and 0. what would i need a quantum computer to do? >> we tend to think of our computers as all powerful.

certainly when i started in the computer business, you know, 40 years ago, they started out small and seems amazing what progress was made with more as well. however, there is it a set of problems today that today's classic computers will never be able to solve even if we allowed moors law to go tore 1,000 years, a million years, it just wouldn't matter. so these tend to be problems with kind of complexity is exponential. one of the areas is in chemistry, the natural world. it turns out that our computers today are digital. the natural world is mechanical. so a digital computer has a hell of a time actually modeling ha happens in chemistry. burr with quantum computer that's big enough, we could model these things and be able to unlock the secrets of nature. >> well, that's my next question. what's big enough? you've made a number of these

things. one you have online has 11 cubits, right? >> yes. >> which is incredibly powerful but add one more q bit and that much more powerful. how big does my quantum need to be? >> most people think roughly 70 and with enough quality that about 70 cubits you can take on the world's largest super computer or the cloud itself with many of these kinds of applications. but as you say you add one more it's double the world's largest computer. >> that's the extraordinarily when you go from 70 to 71 you are talking about a computer so powerful the world hasn't seen. does that put in danger things liken crip shun and banking and things in a computer with try to crack those codes that fast? encryption. >> yeah, today our encryption

uses car rsa. i think rsa corporation came out and said it would take 300 trillion years for today's fastest super computers to break one email. but a quantum computer that would be sufficiently large might do it in just a few seconds. and it's that difference in computational power we are talking about. the good news is you need a lot of that to break encryption. so there should be no runs on the bank this afternoon. >> although you are an ahead of schedule. i mean, you a united states noed that you would actually gotten a year or so ahead of schedule on some of your progress. >> that's right. and that is the concern is that maybe quantum computers actually come faster than anyone thinks. and are we really ready for

digital lives? because when you rely on encryption protecting our bank accounts to protecting nuclear weapons presumably. >> would a quantum computer making an encryption key be any better than a regular computer making an encryption key? >> yeah. there is quantum encryption. which there are algorithms that quantum computers can't hack. or certainly make it difficult to do it. so this is kind of like the y 2 k we need to replace the old code with new code to make sure we are safe. >> you used to work with amazon. one of the prime reasons, if you'll forgive it, that tt product can go from warehouse to person's doorstep in two days. you are that reason. i mean that's amazing. and viewers at home i want you to look at your tv screen this is the guy that made your life that much more possible. but how do you go from that to quantum computing? >> well, one of the problems in

logistics is traveling salesman problem. you might remember this from high school which is what is the optimal route for a driver to go? do you go to house a or house b first? and that is actually a really big computational problem. and so excited me is quantum is one of those things that might be able to solve that problem as well. a single delivery driver for somebody like ups or fed ex delivers to 120 addresses every day. and remember your high school maps they come in tutorial is that number minus one factorial. 119 frack forrial is the number of possible roots which is the number which has 200 digits to it. so there is that many combinations just with 120 delivery addresses. if you wanted to optimize the delivery system for entire city,

then the number of possible routes would be more than the number of adams in the universe. and this is the kinds of problems where quantum computers can help. >> my guest this morning, thank you so much for joining us. let's keep this amazon theme going, up next wall street journal we'll talk about this when press continues. medicines with dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. with just 2 medicines in 1 pill, dovato is as effective as a 3-drug regimen... to help you reach and stay undetectable. research shows people who take hiv treatment as prescribed and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit hiv through sex. don't take dovato if you're

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good morning everyone i'm scott mcgrew. you recognize this object usb charger you probably have several of these in your junk drawer which is where this came from. the path from my junk drawer it went from a factory to a boat to a plane to amazon warehouse to my front doorstep in probably just took a couple of days to do most of that. when you think about it, it's really a miracle. and christopher mims has talked about it where he wrote a book. christopher you picked the usb charger as the object. you followed one of these things across the globe and the global economy. why did you pick a usb charger? >> you know, i picked a us brk

charger kind of the trans cyst ser radio of the day if you think back in the '60s. it's kind of just the simplest technology that if you can produce that, you can produce a lot of an other things. where these treasures are made in vietnam and southeast asia, that's the place most smart phones are made, i pods, most of the gag it's we work on, especially work at home. they come from there not china believe it or not. >> and it is truly miraculous when we stop and think about t you wrote explaining how tapping a button on your phone yields pretty much any consumer good you could want at your doorstep within 24 hours also necessitates explaining how all the innovations that made it possible come together in a plantary clock work mechanism which is impossible to understand without building it up from smallest parts. it is amazing the number of

things that have to work right and work well. and then only been developed in the last few years to have something arrive today on my doorstep. >> yeah, what i came to understand was, you know, if you take all of the biggest most important innovations of the past 100 years, from automobile all the way to ai, it takes every single one of those in order to get you that thing, whatever you ordered, the next day or within two days. and it's because every part of the supply chain has been so transformed in the past ten years, from the way that ports work, and the nature of ships and shipping, to trucking, which is changing, and of course amazon. we have all seen hopefully the video from inside amazon warehouses with robots transformation that wasn't there 10, 20 years ago. used to be you only saw robots in factories but now you see

them all over the supply chain especially the warehouses. >> take me back to the origins of the device you tracked. i can picture the big shipping, the big ships that come into the oakland harbor or the trucks that take it to the amazon warehouse. what i have trouble picturing is the absolute general gist of this, is it a tiny little building or major plant? >> yeah. well, you know, to quote carl if you want to talk about how to make an apple pie from scratch, you have to describe the beginning of the universe. >> right. >> but let me blow your mind for a second. the absolute origin of that tiny device is actually ultra pure quarts sand in appalachia which goes around the world jur fly to mike chip. so we are only picking it up at the midpoint that is where the chips are transformed into a wire or smart phone and that happens in a smallish factory in

vietnam in this case because so many of those factories have been built out, some of them are originals in china because people were worried about a trade war now they are worried about how do we get things out of china because of shipping block beiges because they get shut down because of covid. then that's the origin. puts into the shipping container gets shipped to a port where picked up by a miniature chain and put on a barge, that barge takes all of those objects down river on an 8 hour journey to giant port that faces ocean, and there it's put on a to a giant ship. these are big as empire state building laid on its side and can carry 10,000 shipping containers a piece. >> i always wonder when i see a kids meal toy at mcdonald's or

novelty item. and if you think you reround this back somebody in some plant is making this and thinking i don't know what this thing is. >> absolutely the case. >> some guy issic maing the clattering teeth that you wind up where you think has to be wondering what is this and what am i doing? >> yeah. i mean, i have live in baltimore used to be china of america, now all of that gets made in asia. i mean, it's the workshop of the world doesn't matter where you live outside of asia or southeast a shachlt that's where all of that stuff pretty much gets made. >> you mentioned covid. i think as i mentioned the miracle of hitting a button on our phone and getting something very quickly. we did begin to appreciate that with covid? >> yes, because we had so many supply chain difficulties which by the way, do your christmas shopping early this year, it's only going to hit us again. right now there are 60 container

ships in a cue at the port of long beach in los angeles, this is totally unprecedented. they are doing record volume yet they have 60 ships. normally only three kud up. when i went to los angeles three or four waiting at anchor to get a blert and everyone of those needs thousands of containers so clearly a lot of goods pour noog this country but a ton of things we can't get because not enough dploe ball chaft in supply chains largely because of covid. >> you write we are all living inside a factory. what did you mean by that? >> well, in the old days, raw materials went into a factory then the goods got shipped to you and maybe it was in the same country you were in. but now especially especially with ee commerce and delivery tour door it's really like we are at the end of the conveyor belt, which starts with raw materials, and then just kind of ping-pongs across the world as different places special i.c.e.

in different types of manufacturing buildup the components whatever objects we'll buy. if you buy a smart phone, there are 300 different components in that smart phone. every single one of those components has a supply chain that is so complicate thad it sees the goods that go into it just criss-crossing the world. and then it comes to you, and you are at the end, you as a consumer your demands for that object has been predicted in advance. that's why you can get it the next day. because it took two months for it to come to you across the ocean. >> but i only asked for if yesterday and it arrives today. >> because machine learning a as we call it predicted you would want that object. >> tan they were right. miracle again. chris mims is author of arriving today. thank you for being with us and press here. we'll be right back.

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>> welcome back to "press here." last week, ford announced 40% of new cars will be electric by 2020. to get there, it's going to invest billions of dollars and hire more than 11,000 people. now, whether that's because ford wants to be green or is taking aback by the fact that investors value tesla, a much smaller company, at 13 times ford's value only the board at ford knows. venture capitalist has been thinking about green both the money and environment. partner at revolution.

been involved in financing more than 150 companies. writing recently in op-ed even without regulation as a stick, consumer demand is now serving as a carrot to increase sustainability and impact company's agendas. and you are talking about more than just a green company, right, todd, you are talking companies like tesla, impossible foods that we would define as green companies. but you mean all companies going green? >> yeah, that's right. it's an agenda that pretty much every company is adopting. and it extends well beyond those that originally have a mission or a product that is necessarily sustainable, but far broader than that. >> but there are companies like strike, for instance, process credit cards. how does it go green other than recyclable coffee cups or whatnot in the office? >> well, yes, they can do things inside their owns which are environmentally

responsible. but a lot of the decision making that occurs around sustainability in organizations is cultural and it has to do with, for example rksz the partners you work with. you have choices now in the energy you buy. does it come from sustainable sources? and culturally speaking to those things attracting employees that support them, and choosing your partners carefully is an element of it. >> in fact, you wrote that in your supply chain quote, if a diagram of your partnerships and supplier relationships was printed on the front page of the new york times, would you be comfortable with what it showed the world? you wouldn't have thought well maybe a few years ago we would have thought suppliers far as the way they treated workers but now employees and customers actually really care how the supply chain works for a major company. and whether all of those partners agree. >> that's true. and i don't know if you've had this experience or not, but a lot of us who have been home

bound during the pandemic ordered things to the house otherwise might have gone to the store to purchase. that includes hard goods and food and medicine and other thingspaaging that their food c in and are aware when they see those boxes stacking up that there is a consequence for these decisions. and so it's in influencing the way consumers are thinking about their products. they are thinking about products holistically in so not just my organic food delivered to my home or medicine but what form does it arrive in and what are the consequences for the form it's an arriving in. >> and lot of companies can get feedback from consumers right that some green policies actually start at the consumer level and work their way up to the company? >> yes, that's right. and when we think about investing part of the decision process we go through is how talented is the perspective company at listening to their consumers do they have the tools in place to survey them, to

identify their preferences, to do ab testing on the types of relationship that they want to strel with their consumers. and does it influence the way the consumers buy. we think a lot about that as investors and think very much about the way how in tuna customer is with, sorry, a company is with its customer base. and how responsive they are to those needs. >> and how transparent. i mean companies like apple will issue not only diversity report, but also a sustainability report. and sometimes it's not complimentary, parts in which an apple sustainability report will admit you know what we are still depending on this mineral or this way of mining and we are trying our best. >> yeah. i think companies that recognize what the challenges are and have set goals that they are working toward and communicating their progress on those goals get a lot of credit for that. the expectations of course are

high. and a company with apple with the expectations are higher than they might be on a start up. but nevertheless, in all cases being transparent about frankly talking about what the challenges are and how you are trying to innovate your way towards the goals are crucial. >> it's best to start out early. because you wrote once in the harvard business review, and i know this is a couple years ago, you wrote start up founders tend to go bad at changing their own company. this is something you need, you can't pivot sustainability? >> i think it is much harder. and we talked about partners a moment ago. so for example let's say you've got a start-up, you have a key supplier and turns out that supplier is supplying you with the material that they harvest through very unsustainable or environmentally unfriendly practices, yet you built that into your business model and your cost structure, changing

that on the fly once you realize that in fact it's not consistent with your values and your employees values or with your customer values, that gets much harder once you are embedded in that relationship. >> now, revolution, if you are faced with two investment opportunities one that had bigger growth and the other more dedicated to green, but otherwise identical, but would you really pick the one that was less profitable? >> i think what we would spend a lot of time determining is whether we could innovate our way forward in the way that had greater priority toward green. in other words, these are not static things. and you know earlier in my career, i worked for a firm that focused environmental area. and i commissioned survey, national survey asked one question, the question was all other things being equal, how much more would you be willing to pay if you knew your power came from renewable sources? and back then the answer was

around 4%. now i think the number is higher now. it's probably closer to eight or 10%. but scott this notion that people will self tax to a certain degree to pay more for something that in fact is more environmentally friendly has its limits. and so our answer to that question ultimately, scott, is not to try and invest in the company that's more environmentally friendly and then change a customer into using it, train, our job as investors is innovate our way to make that better. >> makes sense to me. todd cline is partner at revolution growth. thanks for being with us this morning. one of tods area of expertise is also media. and todd and i talked about the future of this podcast you can find that with venture anywhere you find your podcast "press here" we'll be right back.

that's our show for this week. my thanks to my guests and thank you for making us part of your sunday morning.

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