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>> you can't love your country only when you win. president biden issues a dire warning about election deniers and the risk for our electoral system. will the warnings from democrats resonate with economically challenged swing voters in the final push before election day? and very soon -- >> i will very, very very probably do it again, okay? >> will former president trump announce his 2024 bid before we finish counting the 2022 vote, my guest, rick scott, the chair of the gop's arm, and shawn maloney, at the chair of the democratic -- are you ready to "meet the press"? >> 75 years, from deck at a timers to civil rights leaders, we mark 75 years as the gination where newsmakers come to make news. joining me are kristin welker, former democratic

senator from missouri, claire mccass killing. pat mcrory, and emily walker. >> announcer: from nbc news headquarters in new york, the longest-running show in television history, this is a special edition of "meet the press." with chuck todd. on our 75th in new york city, with just two days until election days, more than 40 million people have already cast ballots in the first national election since the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. we expect a record midterm turnout. 120 to 125 million when all votes are counted. republicans need -- the smallest number of seats that the out-of-power party since 1932.

35 senate seats are at stake this cycle. republicans, of course, need one democratic seat to flip control of that chamber. there are also 36 governor races, including some key 2024 presidential battle grounds like arizona, florida, georgia, michigan, nevada, pennsylvania and wisconsin. our final poll conducted over the last three days, reps do appear to have the momentum. just how big is the momentum? former barack obama once calls it a shell acing. president biden has spent the final days of his campaign not in purple states, but in blue states -- california, new mexico, illinois, and new york, where he will be campaigning later today in suburban westchester county. here's why his job approval

ratings at 40 -- a news poll and low -- let me put this in context for you. what does a job rating mean? some people believe it's the single-most indicator to understand. bill clinton tran lated into a 54-seat loss. a 45 march job approval for president obama, 46 her for president trump, 40 house seat loss for his party. what will 44% give us and here's to me the number you probably ought to care about the most in this poll? the state of the u.s. economy? 81% tell us they are dissatisfied. this is the second highs number we've ever recorded. the last time it was this high was just before the 2010 election. you know how that one went. all right. the generic congressional balance.

we have it dead even, a slight uptick for the republicans from two weeks ago when it was 47-46. essentially a tie race probably gives the republicans the five or six seats they need. for every percentage point they lead the democrats, that's probably anywhere from another five to ten seats that would be added to their total. just something to watch for on election night. this is key, something that should make democrats relieved this weekend. interest and enthusiasm, democrats have now matched the republicans dead each. in 2018 they had a slight lead and democrats had a better night. there's still some warning signs here for the democrats. there are two enthusiasm numbers in particular i want to highlight here. african american voters and young voters. as you can see, democrats had a

good night in 2018. they're not quite at the 2018 levels, and young voters are not quite at their 2018 levels, but look at seniors, they're a little more so. so -- of this. we also asked folks to send -- if you could send a message with a vote to congress, what would you say with it? here's auer word cloud response. as you can see, fix the economy. the number one message that was sent from voters, and essentially tied for second here, end partisanship and women's rights. essentially the three big issues of the economy, abortion rights and democracy, all represented here. you can see theare engaged on this. by the way, given what happened to paul pelosi, we asked voters about the current climate of political violence. voters are more likely to view the political rhetoric as an important contributing factor. when we asked who is responsible for this elevated rhetoric? social media companies come out

on top almost universally blamed for our current political climate, and then trish and republican officials and biden at the bottom. let's turn back to the battle not house. i want to point out some key numbers for you to keep track of. in the seven times since the truman era when the president's job rating has been below 50% in the first term, that president's party has lost an average of 43 house seats. guess what? this cycle, there are 44 democratible held seats rated as lean and 21 republicans held seats in the same category. in 2018, you can see it was a much more lopsided battleground with the republicans defending almost everything, and in this cycle, the defense for the

democrats including somewhere sean patrick maloney is running after redistricting. he also charles -- maloney joins "meet the press" two days before the election, sir. >> good to be with us. >> well, let me start with this. what constitutes a good night for democrats on sinus tuesday? >> we're going to hold in majorities. it will be a good night. we'll defend our mainstream democratic values. we're going to protect women's reproductive freedom, cheaper prices for gas -- safer streets by funding good local policing with accountability, but also doing something about gun violence. that is a plan for the future. because our candidates have real plans, they're going to do better than people think on tuesday night. >> do you acknowledge all the

data seems to point in the other direction? >> look, i think -- the polls you just showed tied with the numbers in to 18. i think this race is razor close. i think everybody who cares about the extremism in the maga movement, the racism, ant semitism, violence, needs to get out and vote. that's not just democrats, but independents and fair-minded republicans who listen to republicans oppose things like social security and medicare, want to put it on the chopping block. that's your next guest, by the way, his plan. and we have a plan to cap -- there are big differences. i want everybody to go out and vote. >> if you lose your race, does that mean this was a wave? >> oh, c'mon, i've always had a tough race. i'm the first gay pers ever elected to congress from new york.

i'm raising an interracial family. it has always been improbable i would serve. i have to earn it every two years. so if you happen to lose, you don't think that's somehow part of the national wave that something you got sort of rolled out that way? >> well, i guess what i'm not going to do is place hypotheticals with you when we're two days out from an election and i have won -- >> fair enough. >> -- in 2012, you would have made -- i was running against a republican incumbent with a bunch of money, and nobody thought i could win. so people like me weren't supposed to serve in congress under i did it. with all due respect, what democrats are going to do is fight with everybody we've got for seniors, for people worried about gun violence in our schools, for people who want a real plan to go forward together, without the anger, the fear and the hatred, fight fog

voting rights. that's what we're going to do. i'm going to let the pundits make prediction and let the of coursers vote on tuesday. >> there's a lot of blue statement democrats on the house level in these competitive seats -- oregon, new york, california. i'm curious, do you think the abortion message doesn't work as well in blue states because voters don't believe it will ever be illegal in their state, but it works well for some of the receipt states. have you noticed this yourself? >> of course, when abortion is literally being taken away like a initiative in kansas, but pat ryan, nobody thought he was win in upstate new york, leaning in, my own opponent pretends there's no threat to it in new york, but they voted to bam abortion when he was in the assembly. if he had his way, any state could ban it for any reason

without exceptions. if these guys control congress, the first thing they're going to do is pass a national abortion ban, and bear in mind, 75% of the republicans now in the congress support a national abortion ban. that means california and new york and other big blue states are on the chopping block, too. so, of course, they want to disguise it and try to confuse or lull vote years a false sense of security. when the wolf comes to the door, it's wearing sheep's clothing that's what voters in blue states need to understand. >> do you think the democrats should have worked sooner on a crime standpoint? it was said that democrats didn't learn -- even though many in the party said the right things about avoiding the phrase diagnose defund the -- "defund

the police" -- >> we stood up to the big guys -- that's really important. in addition to that, we have passed the most important local police funding, $300 million over the next five years out of the house. that's the invest to protect act. if you look at our frontline candidates, whether it's nevada, who put billions into violence prevention initiative, our talking about matt cartwright. in my own district i brought back $7 million, look shot spotter it can knowledge, like body cameras, we have a record of delivers for public safety. we're proud of that. >> yes, and there's a bill, though, that was going to be a pretty big bill that every single natural law enforcement group supported, community

c.o.p.s. was the short of it. it's a who's who of who republicans are targeting. was it a mistake not getting this bill passed? you could have gotten it passed. these members of congress needed it, and they're all on the front line. >> i just told you, those members were in the lead on passing $300 million of funding for police departments under 125 officers. that's every precinct -- in every town and cop in my district is in a department under 125 officers. those members took the lead. so the fact is that, together with the gun safety legislation, which the cops demand. they don't want to roll up to a scene with a kid with an ar-15.

we have done real things. contrast that to our opponents, they have done nothing on gun violence. my own opponent cut police budgets whether he had the chance. my goodness, at some point the report should matter here, and we have a strong report of supporting police. >> final question. midterm results are investment connected to presidential job rating. how much responsibility do you think president biden has? >> i think he gets a bum wrap. he's fixing or roads and bridges, bringing jobs back from china, he took on the big drug companies. you know where these dark money is coming into the races is because we took those drug companies a. he's helps or veterans with extraordinary health care. he's done gun safety plans, and let's not forget the rescue plan.

he's working through the damage of the trump years and the pandemic and he's not getting enough credit for it. we have more to do, and he'll be the first one to tell you that. >> based on all your answers, it sounds like you don't believe democrats did anything wrong. you believe if you don't do well, it's simply you had bad messages or didn't communicate it right? is that your basic take? >> first of all, neither of us know what's going to happen to tuesday, but we're not perfect, but we are responsible adults who didn't attack the capitol on january 6th, didn't try to whitewash it, don't ignore 140 cops getting beat occupy that horrible day. we have a plan. we took on the big drug companies. the other side won't do that. we're not perfect, chuck. we've got all kinds of things we can do better, but we're responsible adults who fight for a better future.

>> shaunl patrick maloney, chair of the d triple c, thank you. and now rick scott, chairing the national republican committee. welcome back to "meet the press," sir. >> congratulation on 75 years. >> i great that. 3600 episodes, and then some. let me start with, you've not been shyith you believe that republicans are -- two seats. can you get -- pennsylvania? >> we're going to get 52-plus. we're going to win pennsylvania, we're going to win wisconsin. >> can you get it without it? >> oh, absolutely. look it, here's where we are right now.

ron johnson has run a grate race. we have great candidates, people are showing up to vote. there's no energy on the democrats' side. this election is about the biden agenda. people don't like high inflation, high crime, open borders, fentanyl. i think we have a really good shot in arizona. i think we have a real good shot in new hampshire. i think we have a shot in washington and california, maybe even a shot in connecticut. think about it, half of the democrat seats we are in the hunt to win. so we're going to get 52 points. >> let me ask you about arizona and new hampshire. you didn't put them in your win category yet. you put them in you think you have a shot. coincidentally those are the seats that mcconnell's super-pac

chose to pull out of and not invest in. in hindsight, was that a mistake? >> we've invested. i believe mike masters has run a great race. we have defined kelly as somebody who voted against the border in arizona three times, always voted with schumer and biden, and then hassan, who has a difficult time up there, because she's voted basically 100% with the democrats. so i think dawn has a good chance of winning. if i was predicting that, i believe we're going to win both arizona and new hampshire. >> if you come up short in the senate and arizona and new hampshire are the reason, whose fault is that? >> well, i don't believe we're going to come up short. i believe we have great candidates. i think the issue are defined. we explained exactly who the democrats were. we did the first day i started.

i don't think we have that risk. >> let's assume you have the majority. i'm going to take you at your word. what is the first bill a republican congress sends to the president's desk that you actually think he would sign? >> i think the issues we've got to deal with inflation, how to spend or money wisely. i think we have to have had whatever we can to get this crime rate down. we have to security the border. i think we have to get rid of the 87,000 new i.r.s. agent. i think we have to address the issues, and they're worried about that. i think that's what we need to focus on. we've got to make sure or military is focused on being lethal, not woke. >> let me ask you about inflation, you saw that's number one issue people are dissatisfied with this economy. what is the first bill you guys can pass that you think can

impact inflation. >> on inflation, it's all tied to reckless government spending. we have to get our budget in control, balance the budget, so that's the first thing we have had to do. >> i don't mean to -- all the experts -- >> we have to keep doing it. >> all the experts say legal immigration is the number one thing to deal with, to deal with inflation. are you guys going to deal with that? >> i hope we deal with, first, securing the border, how to have legal immigration, where people who want to live our dream can come in, but we have to spend our money better. we have to figure out to get to a balanced budget. >> let me ask ask you, you've asked a million different way,

sunsetting the program every five years for renewal, why do that? why put social security into sort of the political -- into the political arena every five years? why put seniors through that? why do you think that's a good idea? >> i have no interest in changing the medicare program. i want to preserve the benefits. i don't know one republican that wants to change that. in my plan, i said we have to start being honest. medicare is going bankrupt. social security is going bankrupt. the democrats just cut $280 billion, everyone running in the senate and house, cut it out of medicare, which cuts life-saving drugs. >> you're playing a math game there, senator. >> he didn't pay his taxes. >> they didn't cut anything on medicare. it's cost savings having to do

with the prescription drug benefit. i understand you want to call it something else. >> if you cut spending in medicare, it's going to impanel the ability spoke mob to provide think. >> i will remember that when you argue that. >> that's what's going to happen. >> i w this when you reduction will cut life-saving drugs. that's bad for citizens. very simple. marjorie taylor greene said this at a trump rally four days ago. >> under republicans, not another penny will go to ukraine. >> senator, is she right? >> i think we have to continue to do everything we can to support ukraine who wants to defend their freedom and start russia from continuing to expand. i don't want to end up in a war with russia. if we don't continue to help the

right way, we can't waste or declares, then they'll be in poland or somewhere where we do have to defend our nato members. >> a couple quick questions about your future. if republicans gain the senate majority, do you plan to run for leader? >> i'm not focused on anything except getting a majority tuesday night. everyone wants to -- >> that's a non-answer. >> my focus is tuesday out. >> so leave it out there, it's a possibility. all right. >> i'm focused on what i get down tuesday night. >> former president trump has hinted he may announce in eight day. if he's an active candidate, are you supporting him? >> there will probably be a lot of people to announce. i'm focused on getting a majority in the senate. >> will you accept the results of all the senate elections on tuesday night? >> absolutely. we're also going to do to do

everything we can to make sure they're free and fair. if there's any shenanigans, we're ready to support our candidates to make sure these elections are fair and every ballot is counted the right way. >> it sounds like you're confident that everything will be on the up and up. >> we're going to try our best. i'm -- we shouldn't have ballot harvesting, but i'm going to make sure this election is free and fair. we have to keep improving our election laws every year that we can. senator rick scott, republican from0b÷ florida, helf the nrsc, as you travel around the country, please stay safe on the trail, sir. and thanks for your perspective. when we come back, we're going to do battleground states that determine who controls the senate. our correspon ♪♪

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welcome back. we have correspondents on the ground in four important states, but of course we'll begin in the state of pennsylvania, because frankly, that is where all the presidents seem to want to be. both parties see the race between john fetterman and mem ed oz is essentially pro probably the most critical state. barack obama, joe biden, donald trump, all of them were in the keystone state on saturday making their closing arguments. >> your right to vote is on the ballot. social security and medicare is on the ballot. there's something else -- character. character is on the ballot.

>> and basic decency are on the ballot. democracy itself is on the ballot. the stakes are high. >> 2024, most importantly, we are going to take back our mag any of certainty d. oh, it's so beautiful white house, we're going to take it back. you'll be hearing about it very, very soon. dasha burns is in philadelphia, perhaps the most important county to democratic hopes of holding the senate. dasha? >> reporter: chuck, you had it, not one, not two, but three presidents all in this state, all the on the same dame. president biden and former president obama on the campaign trail together for the first time in this midterm election. their joint effort was here in philadelphia. this city and its surrounding suburbs. the turnout could make or break for -- and the consumers we

spoke to is inflation and crime as the top issues. oz has tried to make a play for those constituents, trying to paint himself as a moderate candidate, a pivot from the maga effort, which won him the support of president trump. that rally last night, will that help or hurt him? every single vote will be critical that's become a dead heat. >> if oz comes up short, that rally is going to get questioned. let's go to the state of arizona. that is where phoenix's maricopa county two years ago broke a 72-year streak of voting for president.

the cycle's biggest test of -- after picked trump, up and down the ticket. vaughn hilliard is on the ground for us in phoenix. how is it, with -- >> reporter: it's a matter of turnout here at this point. it's yard zero. in that quartet of gop candidates, they are traveling around this state together, kari lake leading the charge. each would be responsibility for certifying the results in 20 th. katie hobbs said if she were to win and cari lake for governor -- in order to do that, the republicans have a 4% advantage over democrats here, meaning that these democratic

candidates will need to win over major swaths of independents like kyrsten sinema did in 2018 and mark kelly did in 2020, as well as winning over -- for mark kelly and the other democrats, they are pressing this is more about the threats of democrat sick, as well as the threat to social security. chuck? >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. let's go northwest of arizona to the state of nevada, when the country gets the cold, economically 1/2 tip dale gets the flu. all three house democratic incumbents are in some tough challenges. my colleague jacob soboroff is in las vegas. another one where it's all about partisan turnout. >> reporter: also, and arizona is grounds for election

denamism, nevada is certainly one of the epps centers, and the stakes could not be higher on that front as well. i was here almost exactly two years ago, as they held that press conference with all those trump surrogates alleging thousands of illegal ballots here in las vegas and in the state of nevada. ultimately, that tornado out to be untrue, but even president biden speaking out about democracy could be on the line, as we crisscrossed with the powerful labor union, the issue we heard was unaffordability in las vegas. it has one of the worst unemployment rates and highest inflation rate in the nation, but at the end of the day it will come down to turnout. we met 18-year-old alberto, fixes up his care outside the cows he shares with hi parents,

and it's not all the negative attack ads on tv or streaming service, ultimately it's face-to-face contact with the canvassers that convinced him ultimately he can make a difference. those are the most important voters, those undecided about voting. finally, to the state that could keep us wondering for a month. good old georgia. that's where we see brian kemp's reelection as if the republicans can split from trump, and can he put herschel walker over the finish line. the early voting is shattering records. blayne alexander is in atlanta and been tracking this really since january 5th, 2021 when these races were first decided. blayne, what do you have? >> reporter: absolutely. we have seen that here in georgia. in fact, more people have voted

early during this midterm election than any other midterm in state history. we're talking about some 2.5 million ballots already cast with two very important races on the ballot. talking about the gubernatorial race, stayedy abrams is widely credited with helping flip the state blue in 2020. the question this time around is, can she do it again now that she is on the ballot? leading the republican ticket is governor brian kemp. the last time he faced off was back in 2018. at the time he was a trump endorsed candidate. since then, of course, he's had a rather public split from the former president over the results of the presidential election here in georgia. still, the latest polls that she's leading stacey abrams by about 26 points or so. that had get good news for down-ballot republicans that were hoping to get a boost from

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all right. it's panel time. kristin welker, amy walter, from cook political report, she'll tell us the definition of a wave. pat mccory and claire mccaskill. give me your definition of when this is -- when you would think this is a wave. what is a wave, and how will you define it? >> we can define it any way we like, you're right, but there are three scenarios we are looking at. one is what a lot of republicans feel like, the bottom is falling out, democrats aren't going to show up, not as many as republicans.

republicans are fired up. ending break overwhelmingly for republicans. i would say that had a wave. the senate they win maybe two or three. i think somewhere between scenario two and three, which is as your polls showed, both sides really centeringized, we're totely polarized. to me it's also where do the independent voters go. when you get a wave of election, they break by double digits and they're not breaking yesterday. it makes me think, either are they sitting on the fence and not telling us, or maybe they don't show up. and that's another question. >> only twice this century have we had a national election without party control changing of either the house or the senate. keep that in midge. >> and some say if we hold it to 20 seats, that's a pretty good

night. so i think that's part the why you're seeing the president focus on the message of democracy is on the ballots. some democrats are saying why is he talking about that? the pushback is that's what will energize the base and mitigate the losses. chuck, as you've been talking about, with all of your guests, the main issues are still inflation and the economy. >> i've had democrats quietly say, look, it better be 20 seats, because they want to get it back in 2024, if it gets too big, that's double for the senate. >> here's the deal. listen, this time of year is exciting for all of us who are so close to it, but it also gives me a giant headache. it's so ridiculous. >> how does it feel when you're on the ballot? >> i have won when the polls said i couldn't and lost when

the polls said i would win. i'm not a big believers in all the of the horse race stuff. i think a lot of people are motivated to vote. historically, to call it a wave, it would have to be the same size as donald trump lost after his first two years. we would have mo lose more than 50, 60 seats not to line up with historically. what most persons don't get, this is global. this is not joe biden. we have some of the least inflation in the developed world, but he has not been able to get that home, because when bread cost that is much, and when eggs cost that much, that's what people vote about. >> it's interesting. republicans only need 20 to 25 to hit the number they've had in the past on this. pat, are your sources in north carolina telling you, is the -- what are you hearing? is it a polarized electorate, or do you see a break. >> in north carolina, it feels

like a wave, but as claire and i know -- i've played this game and been played by the game. the last week has been about emotion, and no content, which is a very sad commentary. >> do you know that 70% of people told us they made up their mind before labor day? 70%. if the any testify ads, have not worked. the dems are tried to play on -- and trump, though they haven't talked about trump as much as i thought they would. the republicans i think still have the winner, inflation, especially related to energy, which rick didn't mention. the gas prices, the price of eggs, price of turkey as thanksgiving is coming up. that's why i give advantage to the republicans. immigration, biden and harris are an issue also.

they don't consume a room. they don't have standing when they walk into a room. some people do. obama does, biden and harris -- >> in fairness, nobody has standing when their approval ratings is in the 40s. it's amazing how it changes in the 50s. >> i think the issue -- >> in fairness. >> the issue is going to be with trump going to ohio and florida, which is a whole other issue, biden going -- are they going to turn off voters? >> this was donald trump last night. he is clearly focused on an election, not just this one. >> wait, focused on himself? [ laughter ] >> here he is rattling off poll numbers. >> there it is, trump at 75, ron desanctimonious at -- mike is doing better than i thought. liz cheney, there's no way she's

at 4%. there's no way. there's no way. we're at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.