♪♪ this sunday -- the speaker fight. >> that was easy, huh? >> after 14 failed attempts. >> a speaker has not been elected. >> a speaker has not been elected. >> a speaker has not been elected. house republicans finally elect a speaker, in a battle that hasn't been seen since the run-up to the civil war. >> we will use the power of the purse and the power of the subpoena to get the job done. >> kevin mccarthy gains the gavel after making major concessions to a small group. >> because it took so long, now we learned how to govern.

>> a preview of how the house republicans will govern. >> we will never compromise our principles. while republicans were divided this week, democrats remained enthusiastically united against their history leader. plus bridge building. >> we can work together. we can get things done. >> as washington was consumed by the house drama, president biden showcased hi bipartisan accomplicements. >> we look to things we agree on. finally losing influence. donald trump's top supporters are now ignoring him. >> even having our favorite president call us and tell us we need to knock it off, i think it needs to be reversed.

after holding a tight grip, is trump's influence diminishing. >> >> symone sanders townsend, and jake sherman, cofounder of punchbowl news. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. what a start to the new year. we saw this week was a decade in the making. since the down fall of the bush presidency, the republican party has had an identity caucus. they know what they're against, but can't seem to agree on a idea of what they are for. this should have been an easy

victory lap, but became a brute all four-day game of chicken. for 14 excruciating rounds of votes, a record stretching back before the civil war, kevin mccarthy fell short again and again and again. >> you never have to ask me again on a no how kevin mccarthy. >> if kevin mccarthy doesn't bow out, he will have to live the entire speakership in a straitjacket. >> our message is that framework serves as a temp palace never we'll hold him accountable. >> even on the second anniversary of the january 6th insurrection, a fight even nearly got fill on the house floor. this was supposed to be the easy part to the house republicans, legislating is what's hard, and it would be harder. among the concessions, a provision that would enable any one member tocaluq■ him from th job. so throughout going with they

random votes, because one is upset at leadership. this is not exactly how the republican party banned to showcase itself to the american public as a future governs party. account they avoid the fate of the house republicans of '94 whose actions helped reelect bill clinton in '96, or 2010, where that actions helped reelect barack obama. will this republican house do you the same? the first big test is the debt ceiling. it's a promise that raises the specter of government default. will congress even be able to fund the defense department? that is largely being funded by the united states. will house republican investigations be more professional or simply be personal attacks for political gain? is this the beginning of more

chaos to define the republican party over the next two years. there's a load of leaders without followers, and a lot of followers who aren't interested in having leaders. donald trump's influence this week was minimal at best. while he couldn't close the deal for kevin mccarthy, he did have the power to harm him. perhaps the only good news to come from all you have this for kevin mccarthy, the bar for success couldn't be much lower right now. joining me is republican congressman dan bishop of north carolina, as opposing kevin mccarthy on 11 ballots. he did flip his vote and started to support him after a deal that chip roy helped to negotiate. welcome to "meet the press," sir. >> thank you, chuck. glad to be with you. >> you were a holdout and said we're going to hold kevin mccarthy accountable to his

promises, after you decided to support him. what are the promises in the spirit of transparency. you wanted to do this in public. tell me the deal in public that the agreed to. >> there's no hesitancy about that. the terms are out. 20 courageous members of the house republican conference made sure that we've -- quite contrary to your intro -- nailed down a vision for the majority so we know what we're doing together. we have restored genuine parliamentary participation to the body rather than have it run in a pelosi-style backroom deal making. we have agreed to specific and achievable fiscal commitments to prevent the democrats from winning every negotiation. there's several other details, but a big one for me, that i worked on personally, we have

nailed down in complete detail the terms of a selection committee to investigate the weaponization of the federalv=z government against americans and to make sure that it is sufficiently vested with authority to get the job done. >> let me ask you this, do you feel in the words of matt gaetz, that kevin mccarthy is in a straitjacket in? >> not in the slightest. what we've done by the hard work up front -- this began with proposals for rules changes, that those of us who worked on this began back in july. it took a longtime before the dialogue could begin, but members throughout the conference have celebrated the proposals in the main. you mentioned one, the motion to vacate the chair, you subjected we demanded something new, no. that's been in the protocols under pelosi eliminated it at the beginning of the last

conference. we simply undid the trampling of tradition that nancy pelosi engaged in. it's positive, not negative. it's not weakening kevin mccarthy, but providing the speaker with the tools he needs for republicans to go to the mat for the american people. >> has it dawned on you for you hadn't gotten any of this if the republicans have -- >> it has dawned on me. i think that's a good moment spoke introspection. hakeem jeffries in his speech that was spoused to be introducings kevin mccarthy, he celebrated the unanimity of the democrats. president xi like unanimity in china as well. that's not the nate of democracy in my view. by having a group to raise questions and make sure we address them, we actually have

advanced the ball. we're not going to be having elemental disagreements pop up over and over because we didn't get the job done ahead of time. we have. now we're going to work for the american people. >> do you accept the premise of majority rule? i say that because 91% of the house republicans wanted to elect kevin mccarthy as speaker for three days. 9% of you were holding it back. 91-9. i ask that you have control of one sixth essentially of government right now. if democrats have the majority in the senate, democrats have the white house, why shouldn't they have the lion's share of winning most negotiations. >> do you believe, chuck, by majority rule, that you mean when a majority has decided, the

plurality of the republican conference, the others should be told what to do? is that what you're saying? >> you good et a -- you get a vote. you can object, but there might be 218 that want to raise the debt ceiling without trying to tank the government, without doing the spending cuts, want to do it cleanly. will you respect that? >> oh, absolutely. if a majority decides to do something, that becomes the law. but the notion that people are going to be ordered what to do in order to get to that majority doesn't seem like the right play. if you're saying, on the other hand, should republicans turn to democrats or act as if democrats are the majority and acceed -- no, that's the opposite of what republicans should do. we need to take the

responsibility to our voters. i think you've seen that democrats have shown greater will in previous times than we have had divided government. that could be the case. we have to show will on behalf of the voters who sent us to washington to fight for them. >> there's a lot of republicans arguing what you were arguing on the campaign trail, but in many house races, they got rejected they ballot box. is the fact that voters rejected many members who share your point of view at all impact on the fact that maybe you just need to go out there and campaign more, you can't sort of hold a chamber hostage because you're not getting your way? >> i think democrats have gotten their way with great success, and i don't think your read of he eek is right, chuck. what -- voters in particular were looking for -- they wanted

to be convinced that republicans had conviction about what was being sold to them. they were uncertain about that. i don't disagree that at the margin, people want to have elected officials, including republican candidates to exercise mature and reasoned judgment. that doesn't mean to lie down and be rolled over by democrats, whether they're in the majority or the minority. my view is we've had an opportunity to take a hard look at each other in the republican conference over the past week. folks in the media said it was disfunction and chaos. no, it was decision the most important questions how this conference will proceed. we accomplished an enormous amount. as one very sophisticated person in this area observed, this is transformational for contingent, and we're going to have a great and productive congress. >> bottom line, do you trust kevin mccarthy or simply trust what you have seen on paper?

>> i think kevin mccarthy is an extraordinarily talented leader. he will, with all of this having been laid down, i'm confidence we're going to, under his leadership, accomplish a great deal for the american people. congressman dan bishop, who was a mccarthy detractor for 12 ballots. after negotiating a deal he he supported them. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. kevin mccarthy previewed part of the agenda. >> we will hold the swamp accountable. from the withdrawal of afghanistan, to the origins of covid and the weaponization of the fbi. [ cheers and applause ] >> let me be very clear -- we will use the power of the purse and the power of the subpoena to get the job done. well, speaking of subpoenas,

joining me is the incoming chair of the house oversight committee, congressman james comber of kentucky, who was a backer of kevin mccarthy on all 15 ballots. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with the deal that was cut before we get to your focus. are you convinced that we can go the entire congress without having a motion to vacate? >> well, i'm not convinced we can go the entire congress without having it, but i believe if that's used, i believe that right now the overwhelming jersey -- that's 218-plus republicans realized that kevin mccarthy needs a chance to govern. we're going to give him a chance. i won't say there won't be one person that trying to abuse that motion, but i'm confident that mccarthy will be given the green light to govern and lead this

conference, do the things that we told the american people we are going to do. >> the last time you were on, you worded it that way about kevin mccarthy, hey, i think you have to give him a chance. many people entered that comment as not a robust endorsement. it doesn't always sound like a robust endorsement. is it? >> it is a robust endorsement. look, i know that people are disappointed. a lot of republicans -- i represent an overwhelming republican district that trump won by nearly 50 points the first election. they constantly seem disappointed that republicans aren't able to do the things that republicans say they're going to do, like, for example, vote for a terms limit. that's overwhelmingly popular. republicans always campaign for congress in two things. they say we're going to pass a term limits bill and pass a

balanced budget amendment. i understand the frustration that a lot of new members, new conservatives have. they drew a line in the sand for some of the bills we always campaign on and never seem to vote on. i'm confident that kevin has heard from our conference we want to vote on these things. i'm confident we'll do it. it's going to be a tough job. that's why nobody else tried to run for speaker. it is a tough job to get to 218, but i believe kevin is the right guy. i was proud to support him, and nominated him on the floor. >> the two things you mentioned, they're show votes. they have no chance of passing. some might need to be constitutional amendments. you know how arduous that process is. what's the point of passing a bill that you put press on, but often doesn't get enacted.

>> you know more and mohr candidates will run for the u.s. senate and claim that they support term limits, they support a balanced budget amendment. you have two coming in from the house, ted budde and mark wayne mullen, they support that. so we've got to start taking steps to make fundamental changes in america. i've always said from my first campaign in congress to today, if we want to fundamentally change consequence, two things we can do today is pass a term limits bill and a balanced budget amendment. if there's not a balanced budget amendment, i don't have a lot of confidence that congress will ever pass it. this new rules package, separate votes on each appropriations package. isn't that the proper place to have a spending debate, not playing with the full faith and credit of the united states government? >> well, look.

congress has been broken. that's what john mccain said when he gave a thumbs down. he said we've got to get back to regular order. regular order is to pass 12 different appropriations bills. i think we have to have the debate whenever and wherever on the house floor to the federal debt. who's going to pay for all of this? you mentioned in your monologue that democrats get along better that that republicans. i don't dispute that, but here's the reason form democrats unite around spending money. whenever you have an unlimited amount of money and can promise any democrat any amount of money, new new social program, they will always get on board in the end. well to balance the budget, which means wield have to make intending cuts in every area except social security and medicare. that's a lot tougher job. it will be tougher for republicans to get to that, but i think we will.

>> back to the debt limit, you think that's a an appropriate place to use it, even though it has no chance of using that configuration? >> i think the american people need to see that there are people in congress that are set about the debt. this is being passed to our children. our debt is one of the biggest challenges we face next to national security. we're going to have to have spending cuts at some point just to say that -- i've been in congress six year. i have yet to see any appropriations committee in either chamber to make substan continues spending cuts. >> let me ask you this. you're going to do a lot of oversight, a lot of subpoenas, many people look at what you're doing. they see that it looks more partisan than professional.

tell me how you're going to try to de-partisan-ize an investigation, or do you expect it to be partisan? >> well, with all due respect, i disagree with that, chuck. the only people who see this as partisan is the media and hard-core democrats. at the same moment the democrats on the ways and means commit decree released donald trump's taxes, they then moments later turned around and said comber's investigation of the biden family influence peddling is revenge. are you kidding me? a harbor poll came out and set 65% said the contents of hunter biden's laptop should be investigated. but let me make it clear, we're investigating joe biden, not hunter biden. we need to know what is allowable and what isn't

allowable with respect to foreign adversarial intervention among family members of the president of the united states. that's what the democrats complained about kushner, and that's why republicans have explained about hunter biden and the president's son and brother. >> it sounds like you're going to do it in the same way they did it. how is it any better? >> no. i totally disagree with that. adam schiff always overpromised and underdelivered. he said the release was a bombshell. there's nothing there. i've served on a bank board for over a decade. there's never been a developer that paid a lot of depreciation. if the democrats want to make people like donald trump pay taxes, they need to change the tax code. with respect to everything we are doing we have requested, we have evidence to back up.

they e-mails and texts about hunter biden complains about spending so much money keeping his dad up. they were from our adversarying in china and russia for influence peddling. this isn't political. we want to know was 9 up truthful when he didn't have any knowledge of his family's shady business dealing. >> it does sound personal. we'll see how the year goes on. congressman comber, congressman from kentucky, we appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. thank you. when we come back, he's 345eg history as the first (cecily) what's up, einsnstein? (einsteiein) my n network hasas gone kapu! (cecily)y) oh, you u tried to s save a bucn it?? (einstein)n) i got t what i paiaid for. not so smamart. (c(cecily) nanah, you're still a a genius., therere is a smamarter way t to. (einstein)n) oh?! (c(cecily) swswitch to veverizon! foror a d time, get welcomome unlimiteted for just $25/l/line. (einstein)n) $25?!! (c(cecily) anand it's s guaranteeded for 3!

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house democrats s. the constitution over the cult. democracy over democrat 'gogs. economic opportunity over extremism. freedom over fascism. governing over gaslighting hopefulness over hatred. in case you missed it, that was the a about. cs of what house democrats plan to vote for. democrats plead history formally elevating hakeem jeffries as that i leader. at 52, really for this, also the first lawmakers to elected democrats born after the end of world war ii. hakeem jeffries joins me now. leader jeffries, welcome back, and first of all, congratulations. >> thank you, chuck. good morning, happy new year. thank you, sir. let me start with your take on the concessions that kevin

mccarthy made in order to gain the speakership. what are the ones that concern you the most about the functionalities of the house? >> our general concern is the dysfunction that was historic that we saw this week is not at an end, just the beginning. while the congress was held captive this particular time, what is going to be a problem is if the american people will be held captive or the next two years to the extreme maga republican agenda that apparently has been negotiated into the house rules and the functioning of the congress. that will undermine the health, safety and well-being of the american people. it may undermined national security and a robust defense, and undermined our ability to advance an agenda anchored in kitchen table issues, not extremism. >> no matter -- when an

institution gets weakened, even when the party changes hands, it's sometimes hard to restrengthen that institution. are you concerned that, should you have the good fortune of having the ability to be speaker, it will be hard to restore some of these powers? >> no. our concern right now is on getting things done for everyday americans and tackling the being that is in front of you, making sure we have a farm big that makes sense for the american people. making sure we can fund a government that invests in economic opportunity, invests in the health and the public safety of the american people, making sure that we don't default on our debt for the first time in american history, making sure that we reauthorize important agencies like the f.a.a. so we can strengthen air travel in this country. this is the agenda we're going to focus on as democrats, and

i'm very, very troubled by the way in which the congress has started. hopefully that doesn't pour tend what is to come. are we going basically a handful of republicans working with democrats would work outside the leadership, forcing maybe a clean debt limit raise, keeping the lights on for government. is that the reality of the next two years? >> what wove indicated from the beginning, we're going to extend the hand of partnership to the other size of the aisle. we'll find common ground when we can, wee oppose extremism whenever necessary, and there are republicans who are interested in governing. they're going to to have to break from the extreme wings of

their party at times around important issue. we'll see how it unfolds. speaker pelosi did not have a great relationship with kevin mccarthy. what is yours? >> well, kevin mccarthy and i have had some forward-looking conversations, and i'm hopeful we can do the right thing for the american people. clearly we'll have strong disagreements at times, but we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable. i think that's what the american people want to see. i look forward to building upon the biden agenda, and moving the country forward. if kevin mccarthy is willing to

try to find common ground, they will find willing partners. >> a five-seed house majority is the equivalent of a one seat in a 50-50 senate. it is that narrow. if you thought you could find five republicans to support you or the democrats, and it changed the majority, would you pursue looking for five party switchers? >> we are going to pursue an agenda that protects the president interest, that builds upon the moment we're in. we have an inflationary environment. and let me point out, republicans spent months saying they are but to fight inflation that came to washington and spent the first we'll fighting each other. we need to fight for everyday americans. that is what we are going to try to do as we move forward as

house democrats. we look forward to finding some reasonable republicans who are willing to break from the extreme elements of their conference to do the business of the american people. >> you're not envelope looking for any of them to switch pardons and put you in the speaker's office? >> we're dooling with a republican majority, evenly divided. that will require cooperation. we are willing to find common ground to fit what american people care about being right at the top of the list. >> i want to ask you about a couple issues. president biden is headed to the border today, will have a -- is going to have meetings with the presidents of canada and mexico. i'm curious of his new border policy, expanding title 42 to asylum seekers from cuba, haiti

i. nicaragua, the third country asylum resume, there will be a new pathway, but title 42 will still be there. how do you feel about the decisions? >> well, i look forward to hearing what president biden has to say later after his communications. i do think the biden administration is trying to tackle a tough issue in a way that's consistent with both the principle that america is a nation of immigrants, that gorgeous mosaic of people across the world who come here, has been a part of american excellence, but also, of course, making sure it's a safe, secure and strong border. with respect to title 42, it's my understanding that the biden administration is bound by some court decisions and are working through that. we'll see what the judicial process leads to, but at least as it relates to the democratic side of the aisle, we look forward to a forward--looking

positive discussing. we're not goods to weaponize the issue, as some of my colleagues on the republican side of the aisle clearly would like to see. >> you're the first african american to lead the congress, what does that mean to you? what does that mean to the country? >> i look forward to doing the best possible job, staying focused to get things done. i think it's another data point on the journey of american, we have a government of the people, by the people and for the people. that means folks from a working-class neighborhood in central brooklyn like myself should have an opportunity to participate in american governance, particularly in the house of representatives. and we're proud of the fact as house democrats, that we have one of the most diverse caucuses in american history, truly reflecting the hopes, the dreams

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welcome back. rachel bay, jake sherman, karl cebello, and symone sanders townsend. let me go to the playbook and punch bowl-ess is kevin mccarthy a speaker in name only or a resilient survivor.

>> i would say the former. he very much gave away his own power. what we saw on the floor this week is a prelude to the chaos we're going to see. the conservatives won powerful committee assignments. they were able to get what they wanted in terms of ruvell changes to make sure they could out him. any time they're unhappy with him -- as we saw just a few minutes ago, james combser says this motion to out him is -- they can stop any legislation they want. because of their position -- >> you say they? >> conservatives. because of their new position on the house rules commit year, theme make republicans take difficult votes that the leadership has long protected them from taking. >> is this a don bacon

nightmare? >> yes and no. >> that's a biden district in omaha, one of people i use as an example of -- >> ryan fitzpatrick, the new york republicans. yeah, listen, i have argued that moderates actually benefit -- it serves both sides. moderates can vote against it maybe they pass, maybe they don't. house moderates have a lot of sway if they decide to use it. the rules committee stuff is difficult, i would say for republicans, but moderates are -- there are many more moderates in the 222-seat house, they have more power that people think. >> they have to be willing to pick it up -- >> to use it. >> the conference has been there's only been one armed faction for a decade. the moderates every time they

try to make a move, the leaders say don't, don't, the moderates sit back. the leadership gets weakened. you can't do that anymore. the speaker is now weaker than ever before. >> did it hurt you? >> yes, but at the end of the day, you have to become a protagonist. otherwise you'll be sitting, like you did this week, watching an embarrassment. the moderates have an opportunity this week, they can make a statement. they can bring it down. they have to do that. otherwise, they're going to be sitting in this position of, you know, being in this tyranny of the minority and they'll probably lose in two years. >> there are many moderate republicans who are teasing they're willing to do just that on this rules package. democrats were never going to vote though that, but the reason

we did not see the vote for this rules package, they did not have the votes. they sent a statements root after, republicans did, folks are going home. we'll see you at 5:00 p.m. on monday. juxtaposing with what we saw from democrats, night and day. night and day. >> look, i can't believe i'm going to say this, i think i'm the oldest one of the five here. i've seen this movie before. how does it end any differently other than house republicans somehow helping democrats and the president? >> yeah, i think a lot of democrats were happy this week to see this chaos play out. they're going to stand upsh the reality is there will be so much chaos the story will be about the republicans and the infighting here. the big question i have is sort of how long can kevin mccarthy

hold on as speaker? i was hearing from a lot of his allies this week, even if he gets the gavel, the motion to vacate will come up so soon. >> probably this summer with the debt ceiling, right? >> exactly, and we could see another speaker. >> why, jake, is there so much divorcing from the mid terms here? the faction that held mccarthy hostage is the faction that prevented them from getting control of the senate and more house seats. >> this has long been a problem in republican circles, they often take the wrong or no message from political fallout, from political elections. listen, most -- 90% -- i'm making this number of, but a huge chunk go home to districts in which donald trump retains 90% approval rating. they live in their own political bubble. now i guess a bit less, because

i have republicans from new york and from kind of the northeast that have been -- that are in biden districts, but that's -- they just go home to their own be able, and the leadership doesn't do anything to talk truth to them. this has been going on forever. >> quickly, is trump -- do we see trump weakness our trump strength? >> think we saw weakness. i guess at the end he helped move two or three members, but the first time he spoke out and pushed they members, people ignored them. some of these vocally said we don't care. boebert said, it's nice to get a control, but it doesn't matter. when i was in the house, the first two years of the trump. sit, there was a lot of hold on, let's see what trump will do. >> mccarthy couldn't even stand up on his own at the end. >> they know trump couldn't help them, but they know trump can

pull the rug out from under him. that's why he was saying, thanks for not walking away. and what has it gotten him? the speaker election is not the first time 1998, then newt gingrich was forced out of power. he stepped down just hours after bob livingston said he planned to challenge gingrich. >> earlier this year you said i'm a loyalist. i will more newt gingrich until the day he voluntarily decides to resign. yet bob living stone said, knute, i'm running against you. >> it's a tough question. we have been allies for 20 years. we've been good friends. the fact is, though, after the election results, republicans didn't do what we thought we would do. we thought we would pick up 15 to 20 seats, we lost five.

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how they're governing versus the republicans. >> i think this is what we can expect going forward the next two years. president biden has said he will pass bipartisan legislation where he can, and demonstrate what this means for them. there's a lot more brent-spence brings across the country. there's a lots of shovel-ready projects, a lot of ribbons to be cut. vice president harris was in chicago, and then you have democrats in congress, the house, for example, hakeem jeffries has won the support and respect of his congress. >> carlos, the unemployment report came out. ron klain didn't tweet just once, not just twice, didn't -- at least three times that i found, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, in case you missed it. >> this white house is on a winning streak. i think divided government

will -- i think the heaviest burden for biden the last two years was the idea that the democrats have unifieded control of the government. that's not joe biden. he a deal maker, he's a negotiator and i think he'll thrive in this. >> is the announcement of the border policy part of this? >> yeah. i think it's clear he wants to head off this talking point that republicans have -- which he's never been down there. and immigration at the border is usually a republican issue, but penetrate independents. >> i would say republicans have said they want to investigate all these things. most of them, when you look at polls, people don't care about it. but when it comes to the border, oh, polls shows that a majority of people do care. this is going to be an issue for him, and republicans will absolutely -- >> i think it's important to

note that the biden administration is adopting some trump policies for the border. i think they have realized this is untenable. in florida we're having a massive flood of undocumented migrants. >> the president is going to the border today, and earlier in the week he's going to a summit of the americas. there's the r509 causes and effects the border is the effect of root causes that's happening south of our border. there's all this chitchat about the border and the photo op, being there's real pop decisions that i think the administration has taken a hand in. >> democratic lawmakers are furious, and that's something the white house will have to manage and can't underestimate. i will say, just broadly speaking about this president, i agree he's going to tried to do

bipartisan things. the thing that matter is there's a house republican majority that will be a complete chaotic mess. it's the great -- he called kevin mccarthy yesterday. he's going to try to play nice, all good. get it, but having them as a foil is terribly quickly. >> mcconnell and mccarthy, how close are this? >> zero. they have a fine relationship, but not very chloro. >> watch how many times mcconnell splits. >> of course. >> it will happen. republicans in disarray. before we go, we want to make sure you have a chance to sign up for our daily read. every morning, it's the wisdom, scan up by using the qr code, or go to nbc did the news.com. we'll see you next week, because if it's sunday, it's

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