good morning. it is sunday, august 20th, 7:00, as we take this live look outside. a glorious sun rise coming out of that cloud cover in downtown san jose, on what should be another sunny weekend day. thank you for starting your sunday with us. i'm kira klapper. cinthia pimentel joins us with a quick look at the microclimate forecast. a mild morning out there right now. >> it's a mild morning because we are getting more of that tropical moisture coming into

the bay area. morning, kira. good morning, everyone. 66 in downtown san jose. we are noticing some activity around the south bay. i'll get to that in a second. san francisco, starting off chillier at 58 with some of that fog hanging onto the coastline. yes, the storm still continues with hilary down south. we are picking up on activity overnight through the central valley, circling around parts of the sacramento valley and out onto the parts of marin county. lightning is being detected close to hollister as you approach interstate 5 there. so all of that activity, thanks to hilary, which will be downgraded later today from a category 1 to a tropical storm, once it does get into san diego, los angeles, really that storm intensifying as the morning hours continue today. we'll talk about all of the impacts and how close those showers will get today into the bay area. kira, back to you. >> all right, see you soon.

as you just said, hilary has been downgraded again to a category 1 hurricane, and it's expected to reach tropical storm status, as it makes landfall in southern california there. but the threat from this historic weather event is far from over. millions of californians and people in parts of mexico are being warned to prepare. we have live looks for you, both in san diego on the left and los angeles on the right. l.a. is one of nearly a dozen counties now under a state of emergency. yesterday, governor gavin newsom signed an emergency declaration in san diego. newsom has at least 7500 emergency responders already on the ground, with more resources being coordinated to battle the storm. the emergency declaration covers 11 counties from san diego and l.a. up to fresno. evacuations have been ordered in parts of san bernardino county.

they are also urging people on catalina island to evacuate. as californians brace for this rare and dangerous storm heading their way, marianne favro shows us what they did overnight to be prepared today. >> reporter: hurricane hilary, bearing down in parts of mexico and now heading towards california. all state beaches in orange and san diego counties shut down because of high waves and riptides. flooding is also a big concern, which is why people in the san diego area are moving fast, filling as many sandbags as possible. >> so i can close that off and the water won't go into my garage. >> the demand for sandbags was so high, at some distribution stations they ran out. people also made a run on bottled water and other supplies. state leaders are encouraging

everyone to stay off the roads. >> we want to ensure that you are safe through this entire event. if you do not need to be on the roadways, we are asking you to postpone any of your non-essential travel until the peak of the storm passes. >> reporter: in long beach, the mayor toured the city's mobile command center. >> we're prepared for the residents to have what they need. >> reporter: the state has high water vehicles at the ready, offering some reassurance for residents, bracing for the storm and the unknown. >> you do what you can do. >> reporter: the navy has even moved its fleet out of san diego bay to prevent damage to ships. marianne favro, "today in the bay." federal national parks are closed as hilary moves in. a flash flood warning is in effect for joshua tree national

park east of palm springs. joshua tree will be closed until at least tomorrow, monday. to the north of joshua tree, death valley national park is bracing for flash flooding, as well. death valley camp grounds and visitor centers are closed. did you know, emergency crews from here in the bay area are heading south to help with a response to hurricane hilary. the state has rallied a swift water rescue team with specialists from several bay area fire departments. alyssa gourd was there as they packed up and headed south. >> reporter: 16 firefighters geared up at this oakland warehouse saturday. midday, they got orders from california's office of emergency management to head over to riverside county and help out first responders there. >> the amount of rain that is projected to hit that area is more rainfall in the next few days than they have had in the last few years. >> reporter: because of his

experience and special training, he's been assigned to the swift water rescue team, with other specialists from around the bay area. they're no strangers to hurricanes and tropical storms. >> we go wherever they call us. >> reporter: this year, they were called to help when the levy broke. >> this is what we train for. >> reporter: they try to carry out rescues in boats, but if needed, they can send out rescue swimmers. after packing and checking equipment, they loaded up and headed south. alyssa gourd, "today in the bay." >> of course, we'll have continued coverage as hilary moves into our state. even when we're off air. you can find the latest updates by going to nbcbayarea.com. just click on hurricane hilary on our trending bar at the very top of the home page. turning now to other news, a followup to the deadly officer involved shooting a few days ago

in martinez. it happened at the cannabis dispensary called velvet friday morning. officers responded to a alarm, and say shots were fired at them and an officer was assaulted. four officers returned fire and killed an unarmed person. another person was hurt. the martinez police chief posted a prerecorded video update detailing that several investigations have been launched into the case, which is standard procedure. >> the officers involved were wearing body worn cameras. generally, body worn camera footage is subject to release within 45 days following the incident with certain exceptions. we will coordinate with doj regarding the appropriate timing for the release, given the ongoing investigation. >> the officers involved have been placed on routine administrative leave. now to people in alameda county. they gathered yesterday at the county courthouse demanding

their district attorney do more to curb crime. the group is calling on d.a. pam a price to hold criminals accountable, claiming she fights for thele krs, not the victims. the protest was billed as a justice for reinhart rally. but supporters to push the recall also joined in. the mother of the victim shared her thoughts after her son was killed in a road rage incident. >> frustrated that they are only put the sentence on seven years less than. as a mother, i'm upset with that one. that's why i'm reaching out to the district attorney to listen. >> price was elected on a platform of criminal justice reform. in a statement, the alameda county democratic party said in part, let the d.a. do her job, adding that she just took office this year and has just begun the

reforms she promised. in lighter news and new this morning, there's a new champion in the world of women's soccer. spoiler alert, spain has won the women's world cup. the final match was between england and spain this morning in the 29th minute, england started to move forward, but it was quickly taken away by spain. the winning goal was from captain olga carmona who hit a shot into the bottom corner. this is spain's first time winning the world cup. final score was 1-0. speaking of football, lionel messi is returning to telemundo. you can watch messi and intermiami face cincinnati. it's 7:09. much more ahead. coming up, we take you hive to washington, d.c. for our weekly

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welcome back. on thursday, law enforcement in fulton county, georgia, expect former president trump to turn himself in for processing as trump and 18 others were charged with racketeering and conspiracy. let's turn now to chuck todd, moderator of "meet the press." as always, chuck, thanks for joining us this morning. chuck, as i understand it, you have exclusive interviews this morning. you also have a legal panel of former federal and state prosecutors who are discussing trump's fourth indictment. what sort of insight are we getting on defense strategies, timelines, that time of thing? >> well, look, i think -- i've

got the prosecutors here to explain the like hihood of which trials might happen in 2024, which won't. i think the things you'll learn, the manhattan indictment would go ahead, that the prosecutor there would be willing to step aside, and let the feds prosecute their cases first. there was pretty much agreement that the -- of the two federal cases that the one about overturning the election in 2020 and january 6th, that was the most likely to happen in 2024. and the big georgia one, which we spent quite a few minutes on as well, that, you know, it's such a large case, a rico case, 19 people charged in that big indictment. that's the expectation, sort of like, okay, nobody expects all 189 to be tried together -- 19 to be tried together.

some people will cooperate, some will get dropped. how quickly dose that process happen? the assumption is that is a process that will lengthen the time before we see a trial there. so it really gives a lot of clarity, what to expect, what comes next. bottom line, it's the 2020 federal trial here in washington, d.c. that most of this legal panel believes will be first. >> will be first. and then the latest georgia one, you just mentioned they want to begin next year, but trump's team wants to push it out to 2026. so it will be interesting how it coincides with the candidacy for president coming up. >> you're going to need a scorecard to keep track of it. >> and we know you are guiding us. chuck, thanks for joining us this morning with that preview. we hope you join chuck for thong's "meet the press." in addition to the legal panel on trump's indictment, chuck will have these two exclusive

interviews with governor of north dakota, as well as minnesota democratic governor. if you stick with us, "meet the press" is on right after this news cast. coming up in about 30 minutes, we'll talk to larry gerston for our weekly segment. we'll look at the very first republican presidential primary debate this coming wednesday in milwaukee, wisconsin. and why some key candidates, including donald trump, will not be attending. back here locally to our north, the fire burning near the border with oregon has claimed one life, and the smoke is starting to impact us here in the bay area, forcing an air quality advisory for today. meanwhile, thousands in the path of fires in washington state are evacuating. three massive fires have burned at least three homes and killed at least one person.

eastern washington is under a state of emergency. smoke is expected to pollute the area for weeks. back here in the bay, a special celebration of cuisine and culture in san francisco. the asian and latino cookout brought hundreds of people to pier 30, along with cuisine and performances, local businesses had pop-up shops. there were raffles and giveaways. the big event was organized by organization asians are strong. the lowrider council, and carnivale, san francisco. the idea was to celebrate the similarities and the differences between the cultures. this coincided with san francisco's king of the streets lowrider car show. more than 700 classic cars were featured this year. if you're looking for something to do today, here is a look in this weekend's calendar. >> today is the final day of the

san francisco dahlia competition. they will compete for the best in bloom. this is being held at golden gate park near 9th and lincoln. maybe you prefer the leaf, so head north to sonoma for pesto festo. they promise the perfect blend of flavors, bread, cheese, olive oil and pasta with live music and entertainment. and a vintage pop culture paradise for me, in hayward, the open house, they honor this guy right there in white that's mike the muffler man, his 50-ish birthday. they're going to demo laser cutting, vacuum plumbing, characters like the dog he had right there.

oh, and i just talked to the owner, bruce. he says they have a new pez museum that will open. so after you see mike the muffler guy, come back for mike the traffic guy, tomorrow, right here on "today in the bay." >> we always do. see you tomorrow, mike, thanks. a reminder t all august long, nbc bay area and telemundo 48 are working to clear the shelters. this morning, we want to introduce you to kira and cinthia, named after cinthia pimentel and myself. both dogs are up for adoption today at the oakland zoo, and they are really cute, if i do say so myself. we a holding a pet adoption event at the oakland zoo today. please join us at the zoo from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. if you missed it, two more places next saturday, santa clara animal services in san martin, as well as berkeley humane. you can find the information on

our website at nbcbayarea.com/cleartheshelters. name to you to check in with the human cinthia pimentel for a look at our microclimate forecast. she's really cute. oh, my gosh. look at that sun rise. >> yeah, it's beautiful over downtown san jose. it might be the calm before the storm, as we see this beautiful sun rise. let's enjoy what we have of this morning, and check in on our forecast. of course, san jose looking beautiful. let's go into the trivalley. the high clouds indicating that something is coming, and that will be a chance of showers later on today. we're off to a mild start in livermore at 65 degrees. we have a warm day, warmer than yesterday as we head into the valleys. we'll see the 90s. the coastline and the immediate areas, in the 70s and 80s. as we get more moisture, that could lead to some lift and give us a chance of thunderstorms

that we have already been picking up on closer to hollister, gilroy, and over near i-5, and we just see this ban of showers pushing through the sacramento valley, exiting out towards point reyes. there is a lot going on with this map. let me guide you through them. first time ever that southern california is under that tropical storm warning as we wait on hilary to make a grand entrance. we see the green and the pink. those are extending as far north as idaho, as we could see the potential for flash flooding and through the mountains and deserts there in southern california. and the gusty winds could be around 80 miles an hour in the mountain tops down there. erosion at the beaches, also possible. so this is all as we wait for hilary and i'll guide you through hour by hour, the morning, going to be here, the border there of san diego, the

beaches is going to be very dangerous. would not recommend it at all for anybody to be on their surf board. even though it's a huge community. we'll push on through, death valley, the rain rates going to be very heavy. that's where the potential of flooding comes in. this afternoon, very dangerous and rough towards los angeles. eventually into the evening hours, and tomorrow morning, things could calm down for them. but it could get a little trickier for us, as we go through this afternoon here in the bay area. we'll see more of the high clouds push on through, feeling the humidity, feeling that mugginess out there. some showers come push through near fairfield. but overnight into the early morning, could be slick out there and breezy. so take it easy. as we go through the afternoon, we'll see some clearing in parts of the east and south bays. but the north bay and out to the coastline could see some of those gusty winds and light showers pushing on through. not going to rule out the chance

for a thunderstorm or two, as we highlight this map with a bunch of rain. near the desert and southern california, five, six, seven inches of rain. for us, maybe a quarter of an inch, as we see the storms push on through. could be heavier if any of those cells drop a lot of rain. seven-day forecast in san francisco. look at the temperatures. mild and just some unsettled weather to start off our workweek. inland valleys, muddy conditions. humid tomorrow, and the chances of showers, better clearing for tuesday, but then the heat returns in the middle of the week. we go from showers to heat. we're just going to see it all in california. showers, heat, and humidity. >> so strange to have that humidity here, but i will say it's kind of a nice morning out this. >> it's glorious. >> a typical august in the bay area. cinthia, thanks so much. it's 7:22 right now.

much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, mr. irrelevant. he is back. brock purdy making his return to the field as the 49ers take on denver in a preseason matchup. stick with us.

welcome back. you may remember it was a storybook run that ended with shattered dreams. nearly eight months after brock purdy led the 49ers to the nfc championship, against all odds only to go down with an injury. he returned to action yesterday. this time at levi stadium, locked in as the team's starting quarterback. purdy didn't look like a quarterback who spent the better half of the year recovering from a shoulder injury. he only played one series, completing four of five for 65 yards. trey lance played well. late in the fourth quarter, trailing 20-12, lance throws a

22-yard touchdown pass. the niners missed the two-point conversion. lance leads the team down to the field and the game came down to the final play. jake moody, who had been struggling, knocked one through the uprights from 43 yards, and the niners win 21-20. to oakland now, against the orioles. "star wars" night at the coliseum. bad news was, the force was not with the a's. bottom of the 6th. the team had some hope with their pitcher on the mound. diaz slams this to left field and ties the game with a solo homer and sends it to extra innings. but that's where things go wrong. baltimore scored five runs in the 10th, beating the a's 7-2. the giants took on the braves in atlanta again last night. they started the game hot with

this home run on the first pitch of the game. in the 6th inning, a ground ball and beats the throw to first. his hustle brought a run home, and gave the giants the lead 5-4, but they could not hold on, as rosario homered in the bottom of the 8th. that gave the braves the lead, 6-5. and that's back-to-back win against our giants. much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, a live look for you in gloomy san diego, where we're keeping a close eye on the hurricane, hurricane hilary, as it heads towards southern california. how people are getting ready and how a bay area team is helping. and the demand for answers in maui grows in the wake of those devastating wildfires. the promise from hawaii's governor, as the search for victims continues.

good morning. it is sunday, august 20th, 7:29. a live look outside in mountain view, as the farmers market gets set up on this mild sunday morning. looks a little gloomy. you can see t-shirts and shorts. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. i'm kira klapper. cinthia pimentel joins us with a quick look at our microclimate forecast. i believe you used the word "glorious." >> it was a glorious live shot we saw of san jose a couple of minutes ago, yes, t-shirts and short also be the story today. 66 in san jose. 69 in vacaville, as we head out the door on this sunday morning. conditions will be very warm and humid, all thanks to the moisture that's coming from hilary.

right now, southern california preparing to see the brunt of this storm by the mid morning hours, this evening. things are going to be treacherous out there. picking up on some moisture, coming into the bay area. overnight, you might be seeing some of those wet roadways through the sacramento valley, moist out there towards the point reyes shoreline. we are detecting some lightning near the national weather service in monterey there, and closer to i-5. so definitely do not recommend any roadways going down or coming up from southern california over the next couple of days, because of hurricane hilary. we're going to talk about all of the impacts into southern california and here in the bay area, too, in about ten minutes. kira, back to you. >> cinthia, thanks. as cinthia just said, hilary is expected to reach tropical storm status, as it makes landfall in southern california. so from a hurricane to a tropical storm, but the threat of this historic weather event

is far from over. millions of californians and people in parts of mexico are being warned to prepare. we have some live looks for you, both in san diego on the left and los angeles on the right. a. il. one of nearly a dozen counties under a state of emergency. that's because yesterday, the governor signed an emergency declaration. he was in san diego. he has at least 7500 emergency responders already on the ground, and we are told more resources are being coordinated to battle the storm. the emergency declaration covered 11 counties you see on the screen, from san diego to l.a., up to fresno and other counties in the central valley. evacuations have been ordered in parts of san bernardino county, and evacuations are being urged for people out on catalina island. people in southern california are bracing for this rare and dangerous storm heading their way. our sister station is in san

diego with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, kira. let me just show you off the bat what we are seeing right now. because of the potential for flash flooding, the city of san diego has closed this intersection as you turn into fashion valley mall. we are near the san diego river, in the mission valley neighborhood. when we get intense rain like this, the city of san diego always closes this area because of the potential of flash flooding. >> we are expecting a rare and dangerous rainfall event with significant flash flooding, river flooding, mudslides and debris flows, as well as the potential for wind damage from strong tropical storm force winds. >> reporter: as we head into tomorrow, it is echoed from all city leaders to stay home if possible. tomorrow is a big day in san diego county, whether going to work or back to school.

the city of san diego is placing no parking signs in areas where it's likely to flood, including the mission valley area, where we are right now. the city also says it will have crews clean storm rains in the area. cal fire has been training for events like this and are on standdy in case of emergency. as we head into this afternoon, the worst of the rain has yet to come. as we head into monday, the tropical storm is expected to taper off. for "today in the bay," adonnis albright. >> thank you so much. several national parks are closed as hilary moves in. a flash flood warning is in effect for joshua tree national park. joshua tree will be closed until at least tomorrow. to the north, death valley national park north of joshua tree, they are also bracing for flash flooding. death valley camp grounds and

visitor centers are closed. the storm is leading to delays and cancellations for airline travelers. right now, flight aware says at lax, there are 66 cancellations and 44 delays. in san diego, nearly 250 canc airlines including delta, frontier and american have issued waivers. they want to give passengers flexibility in case the storm disrupts their travel plans. crews from the bay area are helping with the response to hilary. the state has rallied a swift water rescue team with specialists from several bay area fire departments. 16 bay area firefighters with five vehicles and boats took off to southern california last night. they got the order from the california office of emergency management to deploy to riverside county. they will be helping out first

responders there. they are trained to do rescues from boats, and they're ready to send out swimmer it is need be. >> the amount of rain projected to hit that area is more rainfall in the next few days than they have had in the last few years. >> these local teams have responded to hurricanes on the east coast, as well as in the south. they helped out this year when a levy broke to our south. they're not sure how long they will need to work on this assignment in southern california. but we will continue to cover hilary as it moves into our state. even when we are off the air, you can mind the latest updates, by go to nbcbayarea.com. just click on hurricane hilary on our trending bar at the very top of our home page. we are not forgetting maui, of course, where frustrations have not eased. people are demanding answers and accountability. hawaii's governor is promising to get to the bottom of what caused the devastating wildfire that tore through lahaina,

killing more than 100 people, and leaving at least 1,000 others still missing. nbc's dana griffin reports from maui. >> reporter: tonight, the agonizing search for the missing in lahaina. >> we can't find my friend. please, can you find my friend. we need help, please. >> reporter: in an address to the state -- >> lahaina will rise again. >> reporter: the governor vowing to rebuild and not repeat history, that as of now, left to confirm 114 dead. >> we'll get to the bottom of exactly how the fire started, how our emergency procedures and protocols need to be strengthed, and how we can improve our defenses to from tekt us in the future. >> reporter: the pain staking process will take years. and community members want input. >> give us time to heal, and allow us to sit at that able. >> reporter: atf investigators are working to determine the

fire's cause, as hawaiian electric and subsidiaries are hit with a fifth lawsuit, alleging power lines came into contact with vegetation. >> do you regret not sounding the sirens? >> i do not. >> reporter: this comes as herman endaya, the emergency manager, under fire for not sounding the alarms. this teacher said she's been able to reach only eight of her 23 student's families. >> it cost lives. these children on this hill, those are our students, the ones we can't find. >> reporter: this is noah the cadaver dog. they have found eight victims so far. is there a pattern you're noticing? >> smoke inhalation puts you to sleep. so a lot of these victims went

to sleep before they were affected. >> reporter: with nearly 80% of the burn areas searched, and hundreds still missing, many on maui are holding out hope, while lending a helping hand to each other, as the road to recovery begins. >> that was dana griffin reporting from maui. happening today, people in the bay area are encouraged to continue to support those maui recovery efforts. today, molloy's tavern in colma is accepting water mill trags systems and toilet paper. in other news now, a plane made an emergency landing in a vineyard in the north bay. it happened yesterday afternoon near east side road in windsor. you see that there. wow. the sheriff says the pilot of that cessna 172-h did make it out safely. he told them the engine stopped working. he thought he could make it to

the golf club course, but had to land in that vineyard. >> everything got tucked away properly. only about 100 foot from where i hit to where it stopped. >> the pilot is a flight instructor and flying for more than 40 years. he says he teaches people what to do in the event of an emergency, but didn't think he would experience it himself. glad everyone is safe. new this morning, spain has won the women's world cup. the final match was between england and spain early this morning. this is in the 29th minute when england starting moving forward, but it was taken away by spain. the winning goal coming up here from captain olga carmona. she hit a hard and low shot into the bottom corner. final score was 1-0. 7:40 right now. still to come, the connection between getting the common cold

and covid immunity. we'll tell y

let's see what the seven-day has in store. prepare to feel a little bit more muggy out there, humid. these numbers are going to run a little warmer than yesterday, and that moisture will push on through, especially towards the santa clara valley, the east bay. 93 in concord. 94 in fairfield. and the immediate bay, also going to see a mild day with 83 in hayward. what can we expect the next couple of hours? we are tracking the latest with what will be tropical storm hillary if the next couple of hours as it moves over san diego and los angeles, the desert. but that's not going to rule out a chance for some thunderstorms here in the bay area, too, as that moisture pushes on through. the showers are going to continue for monday here in the bay area. we're tracking all of that moisture. the storm is starting to become

a little less organized. as it goes into the deserts and mountains, that could create more lift to drop a lot of rain in a short amount of time. picking up lightning near monterey. it was near hollister a couple of hours ago. that moisture is wrapping around sacramento and out towards the marin county coastline. let's time it for you so you can maybe share the message with your friends and family down in los angeles. by around mid morning, seeing heavy amounts of rain near the border, off the coast of san diego. going to be very gusty, and just down right nasty, as the storm pushes on through. los angeles, going to see heavy rain through catalina, through this afternoon and into tonight. that storm continues to take that turn there through the evening hours, just going to be atrocious amounts oh of rain. make sure you're telling people to stay put. avoid any travel. those rain rates could be upwards of seven inches. a short amount of time, the places in the death valley area,

never see that amount of rain in the whole year. if you can imagine that, it will be a lot of rain. as we push on through, get a closer look of the bay area, not going to rule out a shower or two, passing us through the north bay. more of the moisture comes in, later overnight tonight into our commute. the start of school for kids could be a wet one around the bay area. the showers will push on through, and better clearing as we go into your tuesday and wednesday. tomorrow, temperatures will be cooler as w do see all of that cool weather passing, unsettled in san francisco to start our workweek. the numbers are still very mild in the 70s. inland valleys, just have to watch out for a chance of showers over the next couple of days and the heat. >> all right. good to have that warning. cinthia, thanks. it's

welcome back. a new study finds exposure to

the common cold may have helped you build some immunity to covid. they found people who had colds had immune responses that could be protecting them from covid infections. researchers are hoping to use those findings to develop a new vaccine to fight future covid variants. as of this morning, seven republican presidential hopefuls will participate in the first gop primary debate in milwaukee this coming wednesday. former president donald trump will skip the debate and five others have not yet met the debate requirements. larry gerston joins us. good morning. great to see you as always. why such a low turnout for this debate, out of what, 13, only 7 are making it. >> one thing, a bit of news just happened, asa hutchinson says he's qualified. so that could be eight.

well, there are a lot of things to talk about in terms of why they qualify or not. you have a series of requirements, 40,000 donors across the nation, but it's got to be 200 at least in 20 states. and then you have to poll 1% in three national polls or 1% in two national polls and two state surveys. so you put it together, that's tough requirements. and then you've got, bingo, the loyalty signature. will hurd won't sign it, so he's out automatically. so there is a fine list of interesting people here. and it looks like in addition that asa hutchinson has qualified, at least that's what he says. the rnc will review that by monday. >> and that loyalty pledge promises to support the eventual candidate. >> whoever he or she may be.

>> and why is trump skipping this debate? it would seem important, or at least they used to be important. >> it's certainly important to the rest of them. a couple of reasons here. number one, he's saying to himself why should i debate when in fact i've got a 40-point lead over the closest competitor? good chance of me screwing up perhaps, why take that chance? a second reason, it's vintage trump, he's mad at fox. why is he mad at fox? fox declared -- we have to go back, in 2020, arizona, which clinched the election, of course, for joe biden, he says fox called it way too soon. after all, there are all kinds of shenanigans, even though two audits found out there are none. so he's mad at fox. but he's not going to be there, at least this time, and maybe next time, as well. >> and there are rumors he's looking for count programming, maybe an interview with tucker carlson to air at the same time

of the debate. so what are you, as a professional, looking for in this debate? >> i think there are four qualities we want to see as to how this turns out. the first is substance. what kind of substance is going on? this real discussion are we going to see going on with these candidates? or is it going to be the nitpicking kind of stuff where nobody cares about the real issues. we also want to wonder about cannibalism. when i say "cannibalism," what i'm saying is that are they going to turn on each other to try to knock each other out, and in the process, make themselves look better? well, perhaps that's good in the short term. but how are people going to think about these guys in the long-term? then the question is, who might be eliminated? we say eliminate, nobody gets pulled out of there, but if you find out that you do such a poor job, there goes your money. it burns up and nobody else will

contribute. so we tend to see some candidates dropping out. the ones on the fringe, the ones who didn't qualify, after something like this. and then there's the whole question of donald trump. will anybody really take on donald trump? none of them did that in 2016. have they learned the lesson this time around to take on donald trump, who as you see the big elephant in the room. >> so much to say, but we'll leave it there, larry. thank you for your insight. we'll see you after wednesday. 7:52. up next, a quick look at the top stories we're following, including keeping a close eye on hurricane hilary. we'll tell you abouthese bay t

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catalina island. we have new video in from cabo san lucas. the storm is predicted to produce rainfall in southern california leading to dangerous flooding. crews from the bay area are helping with the response as a swift water rescue team with specialists from several bay area fire departments. in fact, 16 bay area firefighters with five vehicles and votes took off to southern california last night. they got those orders from the office of emergency management. they are trained to do rescues from boats and ready to send out rescue swimmers if need be. the team has responded to hurricanes in the past. they also helped out up here when the levy broke earlier this year. they are not sure how long they will be down there in southern california. and we will continue to follow hilary as it moves across our state. even when we're off air, you can

find the latest on nbcbayarea.com. chick on hurricane hilary at the very top on our trending bar. and a reminder that all month long, nbc bay area and telemundo 48 are working to clear the shelters. we are holding a pet adoption event at the oakland zoo from 10:00 to 2:00 p.m. and then two more events next saturday at santa clara animal services in san martin, as well as berkeley humane. all of the information is on our website, nbcbayarea.com/clearthe nbcbayarea.com/cleartheshelters. hilary is not a hurricane anymore. it's a tropical storm. but the winds still around 70 miles an hour, as it will continue to push on through san diego, l.a., the mountains, and just miss us to the east. some of the showers could go rogue and push into the bay area.

we have the updates on nbcbayarea.com. >> hoping nothing goes rogue there. but we'll keep our fingers crossed for our whole state. thanks so much to all of you for making us a part of your morning. we'll be pack tonight at 5:00, 6:00, and 11:00. we're always on at nbcbayarea.com as well as our nbc bay area app. we hope you have a safe sunday, and we will see you back here next weekend.

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