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there. how his presence will still be felt on the stage tonight. breaking news, a private plane crashes in russia, the controversial figure who may have been on that flight. a tough sell, mortgage rates climb again, making it even tougher to buy a home. what we need to know about the market right now. and a to zzz, a new school year means new bed time routines, some steps parents won't want to sleep on to make bed time easier for the whole family. we begin with the breaking news out of russia. according to russian state media, a private plane has crashed killing all ten people on board. that plane allegedly belonged to yevgeny prigozhin, that's the leader of the wagner mercenary group that name is probably familiar to you because prigozhin led a short-lived coup against the russian government a few months ago. nbc news foreign correspondent josh lederman is following this story for us and joins us now. we want to remind viewers, this is very much a developing

ongoing situation, a lot of different reports coming out of russia, russian state media, bloggers, but break down for us what we know right now with that caveat that things certainly could change. >> reporter: they can change and they certainly will change in the coming hours, ellison. what we can say for sure right now is that a plane associated with yevgeny prigozhin and his wagner group has crashed in russia. there is flight tracking data that now corroborates that this business jet crashed somewhere between moscow and st. petersburg, not long after takeoff. and according to russian state media who have spoken with emergency officials, there were about ten people on board who then died. i say about because the initial reports from russian state news wires was that there were ten people on board, all of them died. we're now getting updated reports from russian state media that say that eight bodies were found at the scene of the crash. so that is creating a lot of

speculation about whether maybe there were two people who were on that manifest list who did not actually get on that plane. we know that yevgeny prigozhin was reported to be on that manifest list of passengers expected to be on that flight. but we're also seeing telegram channels that are very close to the wagner group that have reported information about prigozhin and the wagner group in the past, saying that there may have been a second plane and it is possible prigozhin was on that second plane, which either is about to land or has just recently landed in russia. so, all eyes on that second plane to see whether it is possible that prigozhin has escaped death by being on a second plane, but for now, we know that his death, if it is true, would have massive ramifications for russia. to remind our viewers, prigozhin and his wagner group were some of the most pivotal fighters in the war in ukraine, fighting on behalf of russia. but prigozhin was outspoken in his criticism of the russian

military, at the lack of ammunition, lack of preparedness, before he launched that attempted mutiny in june that was humiliating for president putin, devastating for his political leadership and in the months since it has been a real open question of how is it possible that he has not been put in prison, he's still alive. president putin, someone who is known to exact harsh revenge on his enemies, and the story of where he is and what he's doing has continually changed over the last many months. this is the latest wrinkle in the ongoing story, everyone now trying to figure out whether or not prigozhin was on that plane and whether he's alive. >> josh lederman, thank you, we appreciate your reporting. also this hour, the first big moment of the 2024 presidential race. >> that's right. for the first time the republican contenders for the white house will meet on the debate stage. eight republican hopefuls will be there, including florida governor ron desantis, former vice president mike pence and former ambassador nikki haley. >> one particular candidate will

not be there, donald trump. he is getting ready to turn himself in at an atlanta jail tomorrow. we'll talk about that in just a moment. >> let's start with the high stakes in milwaukee, tonight. the candidates' real first chance to make a good first impression to millions of voters across america. nbc's ali vitali joins us now from milwaukee, ahead of tonight's debate. i know you've been talking to voters, talking to a lot of politicians, how are the campaigns preparing for the debate, particularly when the person to beat is not on the stage with them? >> reporter: yeah, look, that's a fact not lost on any of the contenders that i've spoken to here. all of their campaigns were prepared to talk about trump, whether he was on the stage or not. because he's the unavoidable centerpiece of this republican primary, even if there are most of the candidates in this race who don't want to talk about him. look, for someone like former new jersey governor chris christie, this is going to be a chance for him to take it to trump in front of the american people. he doesn't need trump on stage to do that. but he's planning on making this a referendum on the former

president regardless than others like former -- like florida governor ron desantis know there is a target on their back because he's been polling close to the top of this pack. he knows his rivals are likely to have all eyes on him, trying to take him down a few notches. someone like south carolina senator tim scott, they're downplaying the stakes here for him, saying this is not a make or break moment and saying they have the resources and cash in the bank to make it through this race, regardless of how tonight goes. but there is someone who is desperate to to be on that stage, it is north dakota governor doug burgum and we just spoke with him this morning. he suffered a basketball injury, went to the emergency room and just came in here, spoke with me on crutches, his foot in a boot, he's going to a doctor just in the next little while, but he got emotional with me, guys, talking about how important it is for him to be on that debate stage saying if he has to stand there all night on one foot if he has to, he's willing to do that.

there are americans making the sacrifices worse than that every day, but it really did underscore the fact that someone like burgum is doing everything they can to be on this stage while trump is just ignoring the event completely. >> the stakes are certainly high and hoping he'll heal soon. we have seen many republicans in 2024 trying to walk this fine line between criticizing trump a little without alienating his supporters. i think of will hurd who back in july criticized trump and was receiving boos after. so how do we expect that to factor into today's debate? >> reporter: hurd is not the only one who suffered boos on the campaign trail. christie, of course, has also faced the same kinds of crowds and our poll explains why. our latest poll in iowa shows the wave that this republican party has really been remade in trump's image and ideology. the fact that a majority of them don't think that he did anything significantly criminal, despite the four indictments, the fact they think he won an election that he lost in 2020, it is a reminder for a lot of these rivals of why they're not going

after him on the things like the indictment despite the fact it feels like a bit odd for all of us who ask these candidates questions about trump, in any other world, they would be going at their chief rival. in in one, they're afraid to alienate his mistakes. >> ali vitali, thank you very much. "nbc news daily" has you covered tonight. join our political director chuck todd for complete analysis of the first republican presidential debate watch start, at 11:00 p.m. eastern here on nbc news now. now to georgia, where a new group of former president trump's allies are sur rending in the state's election interference case. that includes former trump lawyer rudy giuliani. look at this. just a short time ago, his lawyers say he turned himself into the fulton county jail, that is him leaving new york this morning, before making his way to fulton county. >> his bond was just set at $150,000. there was also a new development in the classified documents

case. a new court filing reveals a key witness changed his testimony after changing lawyers. >> nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly has an update on that case. let's start with blayne alexander in atlanta. blayne, what is rudy giuliani saying about the georgia case and who are the other people that have surrendered so far? >> reporter: well, ladies, just in the past five minutes, rudy giuliani has shown up on the jail's website. so that means he has been officially booked into the fulton county jail and officially surrendered. we heard from his attorneys not too long ago as they were leaving the fulton county courthouse after being inside for more than two hours or so, or nearly two hours. i talked with both of them as they were hastily making their way to their cars. they were complementary of the d.a. and her staff, basically saying they were professional throughout the entire thing, thanked them for expediting the process and that's what's happening here in georgia. we heard from rudy giuliani himself earlier this morning as

he was preparing to leave new york to head to georgia. here's what he had to say at the time. take a look. >> i'm feeling very, very good about it because i feel like i'm defending the rights of all americans as i did so many times as a united states attorney. i'm a big boy. i can take it. i fought battles much worse than this against people much tougher. >> reporter: and so with giuliani's surrender, we know sidney powell surrendered this afternoon. several others turned themselves in. as we're seeing more and more attorneys show up here at the fulton county courthouse, we're then seeing their clients go down to the fulton county jail and given the fact there are a number of consent bond agreements in place, i would suspect we'll see more surrenders before the end of the day. >> we're waiting with bated breath for the surrender of the former president tomorrow. >> reporter: we're expecting him tomorrow night, according to a source familiar with the plans that he's going to travel to atlanta sometime during the afternoon and then make his way

to the rice street jail sometime in the evening. we know that jail is going to be locked down. nobody is coming in, nobody is going out around the time he's expected to be there. the secret service has a heavy hand in all of this. this is something that the jail, really no jail has seen before. a former president going to surrender. when we talk about security around the area, certainly when we talk about the process inside, it is likely going to be -- to look very different given the person who is going to turn himself in. >> let's bring you in here, ryan, and talk about another case, the federal classified documents case, one of four the president is dealing with. who is the witness that changed his testimony? >> sure, so you taveras is the individual in question here. what prosecutors say is he testified before a grand jury in d.c. and gave misleading information there. and subsequently afterwards they actually had a lawyer come in who was with the federal public defenders office, not only donald trump's payroll. he had been represented by stanley woodward, representing a

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the number of people still unaccounted for after the deadly maui wildfires is going up. the fbi says that list is between 1,000 and 1100 people. but just a few days ago, maui's county mayor said 850 people were officially missing. nbc news correspondent steve patterson joins us from maui once again. steve, that is a pretty big gap. why are those numbers so different? >> reporter: it is a big gap, but it is not that big, if you sort of know why this happens, which is really simple, which is that this is not a scientific

process. these lists are assembled by different agencies, they take into effect a lot of different factors and take into sort of account different sources. so it is all coming together in sort of this mash. and that's the reason why the list fluctuates so much. before it was 850, that was announced by the mayor, and we expect the number to fluctuate again. it comes from so many different places that you're missing names, you end up missing ages, you end up missing genders, all of that accounts for leading to different results or leading to people that may not actually be on the list or doubling the number of people that are on the list. that happens often. it happened in 2018 during the campfire and happening now. this process will only get more narrow as the crews continue to do the hard work that is happening behind me about, which is very, very difficult, it means sifting through wreckage that is now two to three stories, it means sifting up and

digging up remains that are so badly burned that it requires dna matching in order to pair that list down. it is hard work. it is grueling work. it is going to take some time but before that, that list will go up and down again. >> steve patterson, thank you. once again, thank you for your compassionate and detailed reporting. we know you have been out there for days and days. we appreciate you, thank you. today more and more americans are finding that buying a home is an option they simply can't afford. the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate is 7.49%, the highest we have seen in more than two decades. vicky nguyen explains what that means for the housing market. >> the housing market has been on a roller coaster the past couple of years and now house hunters are facing a financial challenge, not seen in a generation. with potentially another rate hike on the horizon before the end of this year, the cost of borrowing money is in a word expensive. if you are one of the millions on a journey toward the american dream of owning your own home,

then you probably already know, it's tough out there. >> very, very freaking hard to buy a house. >> reporter: rates have nearly tripled in the span of just a couple of years, from the lows seen during the pandemic. back in january 2021, they dipped to 2.65%. that climb came as the federal reserve aggressively hiked interest rates to tame inflation, which ballooned above 9% last summer. but even as overall inflation has cooled, and the fed has slowed its efforts, mortgage rates have continued to climb, a lingering problem for both house hunters and would be sellers who are opting to stay put. the sellers are really in the driver's seat now. the problem is they don't want to drive. they likely have a rate that is either 4% or below and so they're in what we call the golden handcuffs. >> reporter: so how long will interest rates stay this high? >> no one has a crystal ball.

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this is "the fast forward." happening now, the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals is hosting a hearing on whether to uphold a ruling on encampment clearing. they are asking judges to overturn an injunction. on the other side, are homeless advocates, including some who sues last year arguing the city is violating federal precedent. they feel the city is unreasonable in its approach to clearing out the homeless. >> cripple our ability to do our job, to help get people into shelter. it's criminal. >> i feel like both sides want the same thing.

what's important that is missing is people need services, not just housing. >> homeless advocates say the city should focus on funding to boost mental health services and substance abuse treatments for unhoused people in city. there's good news on san francisco's retail front. moving forward from vacancies and retail stores closing up, ikea is moving in. a new ikea held a grand opening. stores on market street, this is the same area where a lot of retailers have recently closed up shop. the mayor was here as well to help welcome the new store to the neighborhood. >> as a result of opening ikea today, showing the city a new model but also showing what we are made of, showing our resilience and willingness to do everything it takes to bring back business to san francisco, which not only creates an opportunity for people to shop, but it creates an opportunity for people to work.

>> for now, just three floors of the store are open with plans to expand to three more floors, including a food court. shoppers will be able to enjoy workshops, giveaway and exclusive perks throughout the day. another story today, concern concerned parents are speaking out about the massive budget deficit. they are considering closing 30 public schools. a decision could come down later there month. right now, there are no concrete plans. the district leaders say $6 billion worth of improvements are needed for campuses across the city. 15% of the teacher vacancies have not been filled. it is anticipating a $36 million shortfall. the school board is meeting tonight at 6:00. to our weather. temperatures are heating up. let's check in with kari hall. >> our high temperatures today will head straight to the mid to upper 90s for the south county.

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bottom of the hour now, here are some of the stories making headlines on "nbc news daily." >> surgeons in oxford completed the first ever wound transplant in the united kingdom after a 34-year-old woman was born without a womb, her older sister successfully donated hers. both sisters are recovering well. next the recipient of the womb is planning to have her own embryos implanted later this year. a scary moment for star drew barrymore. the actress was forced to leave an interview in new york on monday after a man approached

the stage yelling her name. barrymore was leading a conversation with singer and actor renee wrap. the man was escorted away by security and both women returned to the stage. a former usc football star, reggie bush, is suing the ncaa for defamation. at the sender of the lawsuit is a statement issued in 2021 calling his career at usc a pay for play arrangement. this refers to a player seeking money in exchange for playing at a certain school, that standard was cited as the reason the ncaa refused to restore his college records and reinstate his heisman trophy. bush's attorneys stated the ncaa knew bush was never accused or involved in much less sanctioned for any pay for play arrangement. the ncaa has not responded to the lawsuit. if you're one of the millions of americans who owe student loans, you'll want to hear this. >> new relief could be on the way and right in time before payments begin again, just october. you can officially apply to president biden's new student

loan repayment plan called save. you could get help on your payments depending on your income and the size of your family. caleb silver is here to break it all down for us. caleb, this is the latest attempt from the president to actually help with student loans after the supreme court struck down his forgiveness plan just this earlier this summer. what is this new program and how is it different? >> this is different because it is not a forgiveness plan. this is what we call an income-driven repayment program that will be determined, the amount you have to pay back, based on your income, and based on the size of your family. so if you have a low income, and you're single, you'll have no payments here. if you're married with four kids, and you're earning around $67,500, no payments. higher the discretionary income, the income left after you paid your rent, after you paid for food and necessary sys, necessities, that's what your payment is based on. >> how do people apply here?

>> the website is open. the department of education opened the studentaid.gov/save. this is open for next several months. so you have to apply for this, you can't just wait for the government, the department of education to reach out to you for the relief. you have to apply for it yourself and then if you get accepted and you should get accepted if you have a loan and meet the income thresholds, a lot of these benefits will take place come next july. >> caleb silver, thank you, great information, we appreciate it. well, it is a fundamental principle of american life, people are innocent until proven guilty. but a new nbc news investigation suggests that may not be the case for children in public school. our report to student discipline policies show students may not always get an opportunity to adequately defend themselves. >> this is from the superintendent. >> reporter: what were some of your goals? >> play my senior year, have my

dad and mom walk me out for senior game day, taking my mom to prom. >> reporter: dreams that were shattered last november, when cory jones of tuscaloosa, alabama, was accused of bringing marijuana to campus after police say they found weed in a car he and four friends rode in. what has this process been like? >> hell. >> reporter: c.j., who receives special services in school for a learning disability, says he was called into the office and read his miranda rights, which he told police he didn't understand. >> ask me, who is it, who is it? they saying it is yours. i'm, like, i don't know. i don't know whose it is. >> reporter: police investigated and charged someone else. not c.j., who had no prior disciplinary issues his attorney says. but c.j. says he spent nearly two months in in school suspension before getting a disciplinary hearing where his dad says c.j. was given little

chance to defend himself. were you all allowed to see the evidence against c.j.? >> no, ma'am. >> reporter: were you all allowed to challenge the statements made by his accusers? >> no, ma'am. >> reporter: tuscaloosa city schools ordered c.j. attend alternative school for 45 days. >> i was hurt. >> reporter: an nbc news investigation found students unable to defend against life altering punishments depends on where they live. several states including nevada, virginia and alabama don't specify students' rights in state law, but rather give broad authority to school districts. do you feel like you all got any due process? >> no, ma'am. due process does not exist in the school system here in alabama. >> reporter: as c.j.'s parents hired an attorney, but district policy prohibited her from being inside the meeting where they tried to appeal his punishment. charles bell has spent more than

a decade studying punishment in schools. >> we're literally pushing children out of school. >> reporter: more than 2.6 million students were expelled or suspended for the most recent year federal data is available. black students were suspended at a rate more than double the national average. experts say black kids don't misbehave more often. >> you have to leave, you're guilty and we don't want to hear from you anymore. that's the thinking we created with broad discretions. >> reporter: tuscaloosa city schools declined a request for an interview but said their policies exceed due process requirements and students are given notice of the alleged violation and explanation of the evidence supporting the violation and an opportunity to respond. >> no one had the time to listen to him. you accept what we give you, that's it. >> reporter: you got the diploma? her parents refused to send him to alternative school.

instead, he finished his senior year online. >> thinking about the other kids, they look like me. i got to fight like hell. i'm not going to stop. >> reporter: as c.j. moves forward, his family continues to fight against what they see as a broken system. priscilla thompson, nbc news, tuscaloosa, alabama. >> really important reporting. >> really important, wonderful report from priscilla. a lot of questions growing right now about one of music's biggest managers. you might know his name, scooter braun. >> known as the rep behind some of the industry's biggest names including justin bieber and ariana grande. now some of his big name clients are dropping him one after the other. here is nbc ns entertainment correspondent chloe melas. >> reporter: the man behind some of the biggest names in music including justin bieber and

ariana grande is going in another direction, and in a move that appears to be having a major ripple effect. a major shake-up in the music industry, some top stars distancing themselves from powerful manager scooter braun. ♪ baby, baby, baby, oh ♪ >> reporter: braun is well known in the industry for discovering justin bieber and most recently for his high profile rift with taylor swift. demi lovato, adina menzel and jay balvin cutting ties with braun. a source telling nbc news, he has amicaby parted ways with those artists. ♪ one less problem ♪ the source saying both are still under contract, adding that braun has been stepping back from manager duties and focusing on his role as ceo of the south korean entertainment company.

>> he outgrew managing artists. ♪ karma is my boyfriend ♪ >> reporter: it comes after braun's rift with one of music's biggest stars, taylor swift, who has been in the spotlight again during this summer of taylor, as the superstar sells out stadiums across the country. in 2019, the singer claimed braun acquired the rights to her first six albums without her consent. >> scooter never contacted me or my team to discuss it prior to the sale or even when it was announced. i'm fairly certain he knew exactly how i would feel about it, though. >> reporter: braun denied the allegations. >> what i learned from that experience i would never do a deal again where everyone wasn't involved in saying, yes, i agree with this deal. >> reporter: now swift has famously been rerecording her albums announcing the taylors version of "1989" last week, during the eras tour. >> i think instead of just telling you about it, i think i'll just sort of show you.

>> reporter: as for braun, the rumors of the artists' exodus swirled one week later. he poked fun at the news writing on social media, quote, breaking news, i'm no longer managing myself. so nbc news reached out, but none of the representatives for the artists involved have commented. back to you. it is a history-making day in space. india just became the first country to land on the south pole of the moon. and it is only the fourth country ever to land on the lunar surface. the spacecraft touched down around 8:30 eastern time this morning. nbc's tom costello joins us now. tom, this is so cool. a lot of people were watching to see if this would be a successful landing because russia did not successfully land when they were trying to just a couple of days ago. tell us what do we know about this side of the moon. what's there? >> we don't know a lot.

the reason we have seen the chinese and the u.s. and russia and india all express interest in it is because the evidence suggested there was frozen water ice there. why do we care? because if we ever have a moon base, we could use that water in theory for drinking water and then also, and this is critical, as rocket fuel to go on to mars. and look at the celebrations in india. the entire country was watching this today. this is a big deal for india, they have been working so hard on their space program, they only had one astronaut ever go into space before, back in the '80s. this is critical. now they are a leading space agency to lu actually land this robotic mission on the south pole and begin an exploration of what's there. they're first ones to land this robotic mission there and the united states and china are planning to go as well. >> so, tom, what does this mean for the geopolitics of the space race? >> well, as you know, as you

mentioned, russia's lunar 25 was aiming for crashed within the past week. it really means now that india is a partner, india and japan are already targeting and planning on another mission to the south pole. it really also solidifies the western international alliance in trying to deal with all things space, to try to have an international partnership. i will tell you that the united states, planning to put humans back on the moon in 2025 or '26 and they would be targeting the south pole. china is targeting the south pole with a human mission in 2030 or so. so this is really highly sought after territory on the moon and the idea is you don't want to allow anyone country to completely control it. >> fascinating stuff. tom costello, thank you. tom costello, thank you. coming up, a to zzz,

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essential for a child's mental and physical health, but according to a cdc study nearly 35% of kids up until 17 years of age are not getting enough sleep at night. joining us now is terry crawley, a certified clinical sleep educator. this is one near and dear to our hearts. sleep deprived folks. >> i can imagine. >> for the kids, talk to us about what happens when a child does not get adequate sleep. why is it so important? >> so many things happen, physical health, mental health is affected. their appetites are affected. they can't maintain a healthy weight, they can't pay attention in school, they can't learn, they can't remember things. often the behavior goes off the rails. so there is so many aspects of their functioning that are directly and severely impacted when they don't get enough. >> so important to just hit the basics. >> yeah. how much sleep should each age group be getting? we know when you're younger, you need a lot more.

how much realistically should we be hoping for? >> there is a range how much they should be getting. it is important to stay within that range and make sure that they get that and one of the best ways for that -- to ensure that they're getting that amount of sleep every night is to have a bed time routine. you got to do it. it has got to be positive. it has got to be proactive. let the children give them plenty of notice, but we got to approach it in a positive light. and approach sleep in a positive light. because if they develop good sleep habits early, it can really affect the trajectory of their lives. >> how about positivity? doesn't have to be you come to bed, you get to rest and reset. >> and save some pleasant activities, and just make it upbeat and we want to -- in a common environment, but kids really like that structure and they feel secure in that predictability, and having that kind of thing, routine and they

go in order, and it is especially important for developmentally challenged i can kids with autism. you can have a picture on the wall and follow the steps. you can let them choose what pajamas to wear. >> how can a parent reset their child's schedule for the school year? >> it depends how much you've got between now and the start of school, but 15-minute increments are a great way to start. start waking them up 15 minutes early and make sure they get early morning light. that's super important to reset that body clock for that day and then you can move up their bed time for sure. >> for new parents, one of the big daunting things can be sleep training, getting their kids on a normal path. i watched my sister go through it. what is the advice there? >> it is very tough. ask for help. don't try to do it all. have a realistic goal, but have people come over, watch the baby

while you get a nap. napping is a great way to make up for last sleep. and obviously if there are a lot of problems, talk to your physician about it. we look at sleep as a vital sign. it should be addressed at every healthcare encounter. it is that important. >> something that everyone is also talking about with sleep is screen time. how diligent should parents be with that when it comes to their children? >> very. to answer you, very diligent. and cut off the screens at least one hour before bed time so the children can get that melatonin they need to fall asleep and stay asleep. swap it out for something calming. low, dim light, like coloring and reading and just quiet activities. and the save the screens for the morning and celebrate their sleep. when they go to bed on time and do everything in their routine, celebrate their successes. stickers, a trip to the park, anything but really, really let them be proud of sleeping.

>> yeah, very quickly for the older kids, high school age, how do you help them with their routine? >> this is important. 9.25 hours of sleep for a teenager. too many don't get that. we have to be aware of drowsy driving issues, they're new drivers, they're sleep deprived, it is a bad situation. we have to be vigilant. >> so critical. terry, thank you so much. thank you for watching i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up ♪ ♪ i've got symptom relief ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements at 4 weeks. skyrizi is the first and only il-23 inhibitor for crohn's that can deliver both clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. the majority of people on skyrizi achieved long lasting remission at 1 year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur.

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this is "the fast forward." we are following developing news in santa clara county. a grass fire is burning. this is in morgan hill on shady lane drive. you are looking at time-lapse video showing the fire putting up the smoke there. right now, cal fire is responding. it does appear to be burning near some homes. we haven't heard from cal fire yet on any structures that may be threatened. we will keep you updated. despite the setback for cruise, opponents argue it's not enough. they held a rally this morning outside their headquarters. this comes after state regulators ordered cruise to cut its operating fleet in half in the wake of recent crashes and traffic backups. under the new guidelines, 50 cars can operate during daytime hours. cruise issued a statement this

week saying they look forward to working with the dmv to make any improvements. sunny days are ahead as we creep towards the weekend. kari hall has a look ahead. >> it's going to be much hotter today. at least we are losing the high humidity. with the lower humidity, we are also going to see more sunshine and temperatures in our warmest spots reaching into the upper 90s. it's not much cooler tomorrow. we will be on a cooling trend going into the weekend. more morning clouds and afternoon sunshine with our inland temperatures in the upper 80s from friday all the way into the early part of next week. for san francisco, expect it to be warmer today with upper 70s in some parts of the city. then we will see the return of the coastal fog and cooler temperatures with breezy winds into the weekend, giving us a wide range i

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