this sunday, 2020 hindsight

with just 30 days until election day, donald trump's refusal to accept the 2020 results looms large over the 2024 race. >> did he lose the 2020 election? >> tim, i'm focused on the future. >> that is a damning nonanswer. >> as the special counsel reveals evidence in the federal election urpt fearence case? they rigged the election. the election was rigged. i didn't rig it, they did. >> former republican congresswoman liz cheney hits the campaign trail with vice president kamala harris. >> i have never voted for a democrat, but this year i am proudly passing my vote for vice president kamala harris. >> no matter your political party, there is a place for you with us and in this campaign. >> plus, wider war. as the middle east escalates into a regional war, fears grow, the conflict is expanding to a more and new dangerous phase and

return visit. former president trump returns to the pennsylvania rally site where he survived an assassination attempt in july. >> over the past eight years those who want to stop us from achieving this future have slandered me, impeached me, tried to throw me off the ballot and who knows? maybe even tried to kill me. my guest this morn tom cotton of arkansas and adam schiff of california. joining me for insight and analysis are, nbc news chief washington correspondent andrea mitchell. amna nawaz, co anchor of pbs news hour, marc short, former chief of staff for mike pence and jen psaki, welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press". >> from nbc news in washington,

this is meet the press with kristen welker. >> good sunday earn morning. election day is 30 days away and there are crises swirling at home and abroad as israel prepares to mark the one-year anniversary of the october 7th terror attacks the region is on edge for a potential retaliation after a massive missile attack by, ran and ten days after return helene made landfall hopes are fading for finding those unaccounted for as the death toll soars to 230. vice president kamala harris touching down in charlotte, norl carolina on saturday visiting a resource donation center. >> the worse that happens here is the best of what we can do to bring federal, state and local resources together in a way that is coordinated with one purpose and one purpose only which is bringing relief, support and help to the people who are most in need and desperate for help.

>> in pennsylvania, former president trump made a dramatic return to butler, the place where a gunman tried to assassinate him nearly three months ago. he was joined on stable by billionaire elon musk and paid tribute to the supporter killed that day while criticizing the biden/harris hurricane response. >> this is a katrina for them. this is one of the worst, they say one the worst in helping people through the ravages of a hurricane. >> just months before mr. trump is on the ballot again, the former president's to overturn his loss is back in focus. j.d. vance refused to say during the vice presidential debate that the former president lost the 2020 election. >> did he lose the 2020 election? >> tim, i'm focused on the future. did kamala harris censor americans from speaking their minds in the wake of the 2020

covid situation? >> that is a damning nonanswer. >> on wednesday, a federal judge unsealed a filing in the election interference case against mr. trump in the brief. special counsel jack smith argues mr. trump is not, mun from prosecution for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election saying he was acting as a candidate. mr. trump criticized the release as a political act. >> this was a weaponization of government and that's why it was released 30 days before the. they rigged the election. i didn't rig the election. they rigged the election. >> it's i reminder of former president trump and his allies brought more than 60 legal challenges after the 2020 election in an effort to overturn it. nearly all of the cases were dropped or dismissed due to a lack of evidence. in a streaking display on thursday former republican congresswoman liz cheney campaigned for vice president harris. >> donald trump was willing to sacrifice our capitol to allow

law enforcement officers be beat know and brutalized in his name and to violate the law and the constitution in order to seize power for himself. i don't care if you're a democrat, republican or an independent, that is depravity and we must never become numb to it. >> and on friday in a surprise visit to the white house briefing room, his first in office, president biden shared concerns about election violence. >> do you have confidence that it will be a free and fair election and that it will be peaceful? >> i'm confident it will be free and fair. i don't know whether it will be peaceful. the things that trump has said and the things that he said last time out when he didn't like the outcome of the election were very dangerous. >> former president trump will return to pennsylvania later this week and former president obama will kick off a

battleground state blitz for vice president harris on thursday. also in the keystone state. i am joined by national political correspondent steve kornacki with the latest on the state of the race. steve, break it down for us. >> kristen, let's start big picture nationally. we've been tracking this week it week, the kamala harris in the average with donald trump and donald trump lost the popular vote in each of the last two times he ran for president and one of those times in 2016 he was still able to win through the electoral college and let's take a closer look at the state, and the seven battle ground states. you're looking at the poll averages in here and it's very close everywhere. obama coming in there and from trump's standpoint in terms of an efficient path to 270 electoral votes it will look something like this.

if trump gets georgia where he leads in the point average by a point and a half. if he gets north carolina where he's literally tied in the polls roo ut now and where trump won in 2020 and the only one of the battleground states trump carried four years ago. then all would be pennsylvania where harris does have a small lead in the averages now, but trump getting those three would get him to 270. that's what's important for him and democrats and the importance for blocking that path for trump in pennsylvania and one of the reasons besides its size to trump and the republicans. you're looking at party registration in pennsylvania and look at this. when donald trump first came on the scene in 2016, the democratic advantage and party registration in pennsylvania was over 900,000 votes. 2020, look now, in 2024, that's been cut in two-thirds there, down to 330,000.

there's been a little bit of a boost for democrats since kamala harris took over in registration and the big picture trend has been more competitive for republicans in party registration. where are we looking in pennsylvania? what's going to decide this state? believe it or not in the trump era, there are only ten counties in the entire state where democrats performed better now than they did before trump came along. however, some of these counties are very big. focus on these four collar counties right outside philadelphia, delaware, chester, montgomery, bucs and more than a fifth of the vote statewide will come out of there and look what's been happening here and the last election outside philly, obama won by nine points and about 120,000 votes and look what happened in 2020, almost a 20-point democratic margin and nearly a 300,000 vote margin and this is the suburbs and can

harris and by trump's standpoint and small rural counties and let's talk about this collection here. some call this the latino belt of pennsylvania. these are counties that have small mid-sized cities with rapidly growing latino populations and we've talked about trump growing among hispanic voters. here are some of the cities in the latino belt in pennsylvania. it's 70% latino. it was overwhelmingly democratic in 2020. joe biden won by 45 points and look at that. that's down almost 20 points from 2012. hazleton, pennsylvania, more than 60% hispanic and democrats won it and it's now a trump place. allentown has come down in its margin for democrats. can trump grow new support in the latino counties with large populations of latino voters in pennsylvania? that's a key from his campaign

standpoint to the keystone state, kristen. >> key questions as we continue to keep our eyes on the keystone state. steve kornacki, thank you so much. >> you got it. >> joining me now is republican senator tom cotton of arkansas. welcome back to "meet the press." thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me on, kristen. >> let's start by talking about hurricane helene. we know former president trump has made a series of baseless claims including that the biden administration is intentionally withholding aid from where republicans live and also saying that fema funds are being redirected to migrants. both those claims have been debunked and false. here's what the fema administrator is saying. >> this creates a ario where they won't come to us and they won't register so they can get what they're eligible for through our program. >> senator, what do you say to that criticism that mr. trump is

confusing people at the very time when they need help the most? >> i don't think he's confusing anyone. i think the administration did get caught flat footeded and joe biden and kamala haires were overmatched. if you hear brian kemp of georgia, who is monitoring this, and georgia reresponse and he's saying that the administration's response has been lackluster. i think there say dfrns between western carolina, and eastern tennessee than the normal hurricane impact we see. most of the time hurricanes are hitting on the coast, hitting by definition flat land and they can cause devastating damage and within a period of time the water can recede and linemen can come in and bring supplies. if you look at the geography where helene did the most damage it's in the mountains where you have small, narrow valleys and once the storm moved on and there's no more rain, oftentimes they only have one way in and

it's a challenge from the beginning they this have been deploying military assets specificsly helicopters. it took them days to do that. there are hundreds of helicopters that should have happened from the very beginning. >> just a couple of points there. the governors themselves have said that they are satisfied with the federal response. brian kemp on monday said we got what we needed. the democratic governor of north carolina, says they're grateful for the support and they got $27 million. there are no doubt that there are challenges in this recovery effort. i'm asking you about the misinformation that the former president is saying. here's what "the charlotte observer" editorial wrote, former president donald trump has politicized it at every turn, spreading falsehoods and conspiracies that fracture the community instead of bringing it together. do you think donald trump should leave campaign politics out of

disaster relief? >> kristen, again, you have governor kemp who said that the response has been lacking. i understand the democratic governor of north carolina will praise joe biden and kamala haires in the middle of an election season and the fact of the matter is we're more than a week on and still not conducting recovery operations and they're still in rescue operations because kamala harris and joe biden were slow footed and they were overmatched by events. you even had the secretary of homeland security saying there's not enough money left in the fund. so it is the case that the administration itself, the secretary that oversees fema says there's not enough money left in the fund and they have been spending billions of dollars in the last four years to move migrants from our border to put them up in hotels and give them room service and maids. >> those funds are coming from a different federal fund not from disaster relief and what

secretary mayorkas says it has the money it needs for now, but not necessarily through the end of the year for future hurricanes and there is a discussion about future funding, you're right about that. henry mcmaster said federal assistance has been superb and glen youngkin said he's appreciative of the rapid response and brian kemp on monday in part said we have what we need while also saying yes, there are more things that we would like to see in the state. my broader question to you is about this misinformation. do you think this is a time to put falsehoods aside like the idea that fema funds are being redirected to migrants which is just not true. >> it is trau true that fema and the department of homeland security have been spending billions of dollars on migrants. it's very common for the administration to come and ask for permission to make money for funds and secondly, i would note

that this administration seems to have no problem finding money when they need to spend it on their priority, when they need hundreds of millions to pay for schools they somehow find it. when it's trying to get helicopters to deliver food, water and cellular service and lifesaving medicine into the mountain valleys, they can't seem to find the money. >> and 110 million have been sent to you are is viefors so far and those are different funds than disaster relief funds and let me ask you about something different. i want to ask you about one of the big moments from the vice presidential debate and we played it in the open when senator j.d. vance when donald trump lost the 2020 election. i want to put this question to you, senator, just to put this to rest. can you say definitively here and now that donald trump did lose the 2020 election? >> kristen, joe biden was elected in 2020. it was an unfair election in many ways. you had states that were changing their election practices, election laws sometimes in violation of the

constitution. you had networks combining with big tech to suppress what we know about the story about hunter biden's laptop and the evidence it exposed about the biden family corruption. we know joe biden was elected president. >> there's a process by which we vote, there are votes in november and the electoral college vote and you certify the election and then an election. everything has gone to hell in a hand basket. >> it was stated that this was one of the most secure elections in u.s. history. do you just not to say that trump lost? if biden is president can you say simply say trump lost? >> joe biden was elected president in 2020. that's why we have runaway inflation and that's why we have more than 10 million illegals in this country and to go back to your point about the 2020 election. it was very irregular. you had network to include this network, conspiring big tech to suppress the biden family

corruption. you had democratic states and cities like pennsylvania and like philadelphia changing their election practices on the fly. that's one reason why president trump and the republican national committee are so focused on election integrity to make sure that democrats aren't doing what they're doing in pennsylvania counting absentee ballots. >> there's no proof of that. trump did take his case to court more than 60 times and didn't win those cases. let me move on to january 6th and this new evidence unsealed this week. jack smith in this filing says he has three witnesses, forensic experts to testify that he went to the dining room by the oval office where he watched coverage of the attack against the capitol unfold and he was, of course, on his phone, on twitter. a year ago i asked donald trump about what he was doing during that time. look. >> tell me how you watched this all unfold? were you in the dining room? >> i'm not going to tell you,

i'll tell people later at an appropriate time. >> on that day? >> nancy pelosi -- >> why would i tell you? >> did you call military or law enforcement? >> what? >> did you call military or law enforcement at the moment the capitol --? i'm not going to tell you anything. >> senator, do you think donald trump showed leadership in those hours when the capitol was under attack? >> what i think about what jack smith this did is that it was a temper tantrum from a deranged fanatic who is angry that he keeps losing time and time again over the supreme court over the course of his career. this is unverified, uncross examined hearsay from grand jury testimony which usually isn't revealed publicly for that reason. he went to court. he asked for special permission and to have it disclosed less than 30 days before the election. this is professional misconduct in all likelihood by jack smith and should be investigated. >> just to be clear the judge

did unseal it. back to the question. do you think donald trump showed leadership in the hours when the capitol was under attack. >> i know that president trump said to the rally goers who were here on the ellipse in washington that day that they should protest peacefully. what some of those rally goers started a rally in the capitol told them to leave the capitol and not assault law enforcement. i know those things. what jack smith is saying is unverified. jack smith violating department of justice regulations to try to get out as much unverified so-called evidence that he has because he's angry that he lost and the democrats don't think they can beat donald trump on issues like inflation and immigration. >> very quickly on iran. would you support israel launching strikes on iran's nuclear facilities, senator.

>> we should do what joe biden and kamala harris haven't done. we should let israel win. >> so that's a yes? >> iran is our enemy, israel needs our support. we should back them to the hilt in what they decide to do. should they go after the nuclear sites? would you support that? >> i'm not going to give benjamin netanyahu advice on what to target unlike kamala harris and joe biden we should back them to the hilt and we should back them against our common enemies. >> senator tom cotton, thank you for being here today. we appreciate it. good to see you. when we come back, democratic congressman adam schiff of california joins me next. (cheerful music) (phone ringing) [narrator] not all multi-millionaires built their wealth the same way, you have... the fearless investor. the type a cpa. the bootstrapper. the bootmaker. yeehaw [narrator] but many do have something in common. we all trust schwab with our wealth. [narrator] thanks to our award-winning service, low costs and transparent advice.

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you about that unsealed brief that was filed by jack smith. we should note that it was unsealed by the judge. in it, he reveals new details about what happened on january 6th including he says that when former president trump was told that his then vice president mike pence had to be rushed out of where he was for safety and that he was in danger trump's response was so what? what was your reaction to hearing that, congressman? >> well, that was the most shocking part to me. it just affirmed what we know about donald trump and that he cares about no one except himself, nothing, not the constitution, not our institutions, not the capitol, not his own colleagues and nothing but himself and in that respect that one exchange when the president is informed as the vice president is essentially being sequestered in a safe place because his life is at

risk, people are chanting "hang mike pence," the president's reaction is "so what?" . that to me is so telling and so powerful. >> i want to ask you about the timing of all of this, congressman, which you know has been in focus. the former federal prosecutor referred to this brief as jack smith's, quote, october cheap shot. donald trump has accused the justice department of election interference essentially by violating its longstanding practice not to take public steps in politically related cases close to an election. so i wonder if you would weigh in on this. do you think it was appropriate for this brief to be unsealed this close to the election, congressman? >> i do think it was appropriate and we have to look at why the delay was occasioned in the first place and so much of the delay had to do with the defendant's stall tactics in the lower courts and the appellate courts and the supreme court.

it had a lot to do with the supreme court's decision to wait until the last day of session, to wait until as close to the election as possible because the supreme court now, sadly, the legacy of the chief justice roberts has become yet another partisan institution, decided to issue its decision at the latest moment and then what you see the special counsel do is what he should do which is promptly go back to the grand jury, get a superseding indictment that meets the new limits placed on evidence and charges in a presidential prosecution, bring that indictment forward and then file a brief before the district court to continue the process. so i think the special counsel did what he should do, and i think the court was well in its discretion to make that public. >> and yet, congressman, just to remind you. this is what he said in 2016 when then-fbi director james comey re-opened essentially the investigation into hillary

clinton's emails. take a look. >> the doj policies against making a statement about a pending or closed case and certainly not doing it in the days leading up to the investigation is a reason. >> it's very poor judgment and i say that not just as a clinton supporter, but someone who spent six years in the department of justice as an assistant u.s. attorney. you don't talk about pending cases and you certainly don't do it around election time. >> that was re-opened days before the election. why shouldn't that same standard apply now, congressman? >> because what you have there was the director of the fbi unilaterally making a decision to talk about an open investigation. it it wasn't a filing in the court and it wasn't a decision by the judge weighing the policy and weighing the evidence. this was james comey's unilateral decision in the weeks leading up to the election. that's very different. prosecutors, before bringing a case and this was before any

case was brought by james comey or prosecutor, speaking to the public about evidence in the case, doing so indeed days before the election and even not knowing what that evidence was. that is a very different circumstance than a court filing made on this field as it was here. >> this week president biden, as you know, said that he doesn't know if the election will be peaceful though he does think it will be free and fair. do you think this election will be peaceful and free and fair, congressman? >> i think what the president said was all too accurate. shockingly, breathtakingly, tragically accurate, and that is yes, i think it will be free and fair, but will it be free of violence at the end of the day? if it is close and if donald trump loses again, as i expect that he will, he will contest it. he has more reason to contest it than he did before not because of any flaw in the election, but because donald trump believes

and perhaps with reason that if he doesn't succeed at the ballot box, he may be going to jail. so he's going to challenge the results and we saw tragically what happened when he did that four years earlier and what's more, we see him laying the same foundation to fraudulently challenge the results once again, putting up the same big lies that he put out four years earlier. so, sadly, to hear an american president say that he cannot fully expect that this may be a peaceful transition of power, it breaks your heart because this is the legacy of donald trump which is we now cannot go into an election with full confidence that the results will be peaceful. >> let me shift now to the ongoing development in escalations in the middle east. i want to ask you to respond broadly to what you just heard from senator tom cotton who makes the case that we quite frankly hear from president

trump that part of why you have this unrest, this escalation in the middle east is because as cotton just said he argues the biden administration has been weak in its foreign policy, in its policies toward the middle east. what say you? how do you respond to that allegation that we have heard quite frankly not just from cotton, but from a number of republicans on the campaign trail? >> think it's the kind of nonsense you hear on the campaign trail. look, we are where we are tragically one year after october 7th because hamas massacred, raped, tortured 1200 people aiary ago, and they still retain dozens and dozens of hostages including americans. hezbollah, the day after hamas began that war expressed its solidarity with hamas by also lobbing projectiles into israel. that's why we are where we are. my heartbreaks for the families of those hostages that have gone through a year of hell, but i think that we ought to try to

put ourselves in the position of a state of attack the way israel was. we would never accept the continued governance of a terrorist like hamas, we would never accept where people are held hostage and tens of thousands of citizens couldn't return to their homes because a different terrorist group hezbollah was continuing to attack them. that's why we are where we are, and israel will retaliate. if i were advising the prime minister of israel i would say go after those ballistic missile factories, storage areas, and that would be proportion at, in my view, but it would help to grade iran's capacity. >> would be my follow-up question, so i appreciate it. let me turn to the state of the race. obviously, incredibly close, nationally and key battleground states and you told me the last time we were together on this program in july that vice

president harris who wasn't at the top of the ticket at the time you believed she could win overwhelmingly, given how close this race is, congressman, do you believe that kamala harris can win this race overwhelmingly? >> i do. you know, by the standards of today, i think she can win overwhelmingly given how divided the country is, overwhelming may be winning by 100,000 votes or 80,000 votes in the key battleground states and i think that is within her capacity to do, and i made that point because i was, at the time, urging that the torch be passed to her and it was, and i think the effect has been dramatic. young people who were disengaged are now engaged, interested, active, volunteering. so i think we are well poised to win this thing, but it is still scary close, and i can't remember a time in history when we had such a clear and dramatic

choice about the direction the country would take, whether we'd move forward to an economy that works for everyone with a democracy that is intact or whether we move back to this terrible, you know, trump american carnage, and i think faced with that prospect and that choice, kamala harris will win this race, and i'm very optimistic about the outcome. >> very close. a little different than overwhelmingly, but we heard you make your case. congressman, thank you very much. >> well, if i can just say, the reason -- the reason why the margin is so important is because they will challenge the results when they lose. running up that margin as much as possible and turning people out has to be our priority. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you very much for joining us today. we really appreciate it. when we come back, election day is now just 30 day away. the panel joins me next. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [uplifting music] brayden: my name is brayden. i was five years old when i came to st. jude.

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former white house press secretary jen psaki host of "inside with jen psaki" and marc short, former chief of staff to vice president mike pence. thank you all for being here. i have to start out by saying we did not plan our outfits. >> not today. >> i think in a lot of ways. >> i'm going to start with you, marc, because you obviously have the most unique perspective on this filing that we all saw this week by jack smith that was released by the judge, and in it we did learn that donald trump said, so what when he heard that mike pence when you all were being ushereded to safety. what did you make of that? what was your gut reaction when you heard that? >> i confess there have been so many different reports that i didn't find it new. you have to recall that at the time we were evacuated and sequestered that donald trump tweeted out against the former vice president and encouraging more of the activity that was happening at the capitol. so i didn't find that as

revelationary. i do think, though, that broader picture concern is as republicans often are now condoning or sort of giving excuses a kwa for january 6th, i think it's a bigger concern when you cross that bridge and say we as a party that believe in the rule of law, i'm going to put that aside and not make it a big issue then it's easier to say if we'll abandon our position of life i can walk away on that, too or ban the traditional marriage or say we're no longer a party that believes in trade or not stand up for allies, and now we're the savers of government run health care. you cross that bridge of january 6th it makes it successive on the issue that made our party strong as conservatives. >> it's just a fascinating point. jen, let me kick it to you because in addition to everything that marc is saying you hear senator tom cotton again not say that trump lost the election echoing what we heard from j.d. vance on the debate stage. for folks who say why is this a

topic of conversation. trump is making it a topic of conversation. he talks about it at almost every rally. >> exactly. the big reason it's at the top of the conversation. it's not a them problem. we're not looking in the rear-view mirror and analyzing what we should do to prevent it. it's a now problem. donald trump is running on the same election subversion playbook that he tried to make happen back in 2020. that is what he's doing now. he wants fake electors. he's going to challenge it. he is actively doing many of the same things he did leading up to the 2020 election. that is why it's central and that's why people should care about it. >> what about the extraordinary moment as president biden walked into the briefing room as a white house correspondent. >> he said he doesn't know if this election and the transfer of power will be peaceful. i think it's exactly because of what jen was just saying because of what donald trump is saying and j.d. vance even more so that

the election was not won by joe biden and everyone can see that and even when he said in butler last night to the rally. what he said in 2020, i think it's also -- he's the president of the united states. he's still the president. he sees the threat matrix. he gets the daily brief, and i think that the threat level is higher than it's ever been and that his law enforcement, his national security people are really concerned about it domestically. >> what about the rally last night, trump without any proof said maybe the assassination attempt was being carried out by essentially his political rivals. i've been talking to his allies who say stop with the conspiracy theories and focus on the economy. that's your strong point. talk about immigration. what are you hearing when you talk to his allies? >> the thing of it is, none of his advisors and none of the republican strategists or donors want him talking about any of this. they want him talking about the

economy, immigration, issues where republicans have voters and where they have a strong message and what americans care about now, too. i can remember talking to the republican leadership on the hill and john thune who said now is the time for trump to be reaching out to nikki haley voters and expanding his base and reaching out to suburban women. he has done none of that. trump's problem is maxed out on the number of people who believe that the 2020 election was stolen and it will not expand his base or bring him more votes. >> think about the harris campaign strategy has gotten criticism as well for not being basically mixing it up enough, enough events that are unscripted. former president obama will be out on the campaign trail and liz cheney was out with her on the campaign trail. are you anticipating a strategy shift. >> we've seen him announce this which is a great thing.

vice president harris has done a number of interviews while tim walz who i think is a huge asset who hasn't been tapped into in the last month is going to be out there a great deal and you're right. the thing is at this point when everything matters you have to take risks and people may make mistakes. it's worth it. put them out there and have them doing a bunch of stuff and we've seen them do exactly that. >> marc, does liz cheney out on the campaign trail doesn't make a difference? >> not at all. the issue set is behind our barks as republicans and we're not prevailing because trump is stuck in the 45 to 47% and not budging. this is a landslide year for republicans, but we're not focused on the issues and by diverting on other topics, it is for the harris campaign because it reverts things back to january 6th as opposed to where the republicans should be talking. >> they have to double down on serious interviews because what

i'm hearing from democratic and republicans business people and she's got such a big problem with men. there's an undercount of the trump vote. i think there's miss oj nation in all of this, black and white men and also in the business world they don't think she is serious. they don't think she's a heavy weight and a lot of this is gender, but she's got to be more specific about her economic plans. >> you know, amna, to andrea's point, the gender divide is just so significant. you see the extent to which harris is winning with women and that trump is winning with men. >> it's huge. it's a in modern history and it's getting bigger in time. look, for people who know who they're going to bake for, 80% are baked in. the latest pbs news poll 20% of folks say they're swayable. i think i know who i'm voting for and 5% and i don't know who i'm voting for, but the things

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continue to follow these ongoing developments in the middle east. of course, now there is fighting on multiple fronts in gaza, lebanon and israel with new strikes overnight. you have new reporting about the thinking inside israel about what might come next. >> i think prime minister netanyahu and on this, he is aligned with his defense minister unlike gaza. they're all in. they're all in because netanyahu believes and the israeli officials, senior officials have said so right after the strike that got nasrallah, the hezbollah leader, a senior official saying to some of us that the supreme leader in iran has a plan to eradicate israel from the face of the earth by 2040. there is a time clock in his quarters and they are counting down to it, so they see this as first taking out hezbollah, the insurance policy that iran always has at his back and designating the leadership and

taking out what they said to us were missiles and rockets buried under ground in southern lebanon that there was going to be an attack similar to the hamas attack on october 7th. so here we are on the anniversary and they see a window, an electoral window, one saying that president biden is in a strait jacket politically. he can't go up against israel on something as fundamental as iran and iran will in annes clat or way take on sites in a bigger way and move on to oilfields rather than exfort facilities, and even the all thely as this tit for tat continues and escalates, worse case, go after the nuclear and what they can get. not the deepest underground sites that would require u.s. help, but they can do a lot of damage. >> amna? >> i was going to jump in because i think it is important for people to understand, one of the strait jackets is that netanyahu is disincentivized to change anything about his

behavior because remember over a year ago before the horrific, events on october 7th, there were people marching in the streets and he is extremely unpopular and now he is more unpopular and he's a wartime leader in order to stay in power. >> he's not listening to the white house on that. >> the u.s., despite tireless efforts by the white house and state department officials i've talked to, the u.s. his largely been relegated to observer status on this. they've not been able to prevent netanyahu from using heavy bombs and targeting medical facilities and shelters and to bring the hostages home and netanyahu is prosecuting the war with one eye on israel and also one eye on the u.s. election and i will say the inability of the u.s. to be able to exert any influence does have consequences because for all of the horrors of october 7th, the desperate fight by families to bring hostages home, 40,000 palestinians dead, mostly

women and children and for millions both here and in the u.s. and around the world they are unwilling to fight for palestinians and lebanese and iranians for their right to live and exist and that has shifted something that can't be shifted back easily. >> marc? >> it was a year ago that 1200 israelis were killed, raped, murdered, beheaded. i don't think netanyahu should be incentivized to do anything different. i think the reality is that during this administration you've seen iran embolden from the early days of the 2020 campaign, joe biden -- they took the houthis off the terror watch list. iran has funded the houthis, hezbollah and hamas and israel is surrounded by enemies who want them eradicated and we should be standing with them. >> this is a scary position to have. and this is why it becomes a political issue. look, was there a period of time -- this is a huge morality

issue and a humanitarian issue let me say that first because of the death of the palestinians. kamala harris has brought the overwhelming majority of democrats back including in michigan where she has support of 94%, 95% of democrat dechls. if this becomes a contrast between trump and harris, it leads to a more expansive war and leadership is about reducing the likelihood of war and coming to a peaceful conclusion. >> they are our strongest ally. >> marc, one of the things that has been lost in all of this terrible thing is the hostages and their families and we've become so close to and feeling the rage and the frustration and the agony that they feel every day. what's also lost is that there was a different horizon a year ago. i was in new york at the u.n. talking to the saudis, the israelis, the americans. they were closing in on an

agreement and then hamas seeing that jump-started according to all evidence, jump-started what was the hezbollah plan to eventually go after israel. it upset the timetable. iran did not know, hezbollah did not know and i looked at the films of rapes and murders and there's idf film that's not been seen publicly and many of us have seen it. journalists have seen it and it's too graphic to put on television, but the fact is that that changed all of that, but netanyahu had an opening, and i've been on these missions with secretary blinken from january on, working on the saudis -- >> israel didn't break the ceasefire. >> it was hamas that attacked israel and iran was funding them. >> the bottom line is we've lost the opportunity for an arab force to try to -- >> ten seconds left. >> this is an existential fight for israel. absolutely. i think netanyahu's biggest critics is we can see both of

humanity of israelis who have the rights to exist and the palestinians caught in the crossfire. >> such a critical issue we continue to cover, thank you for the conversation. before we go, if you want to help those who have been impacted by hurricane helene please consider giving to organizations like these. that is all for today. thank you all so much for watching. we will be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." ♪♪ ♪♪ are over 220. locations are close by when you need them most. our doctors are here to

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