remainder of the day i will have an opportunity to speak with you. thank you very much. three were released into gaza. two -- out of the han of their captors. and they appear to be in good health, but it's early to tell. they're literally -- they may be across the border of the gaza strip interest israel now. i'm not certain. thank you. >> reporter: is there any concerns about hamas returning? >> no. >> reporter: do you remain involved in the deal? >> no way out of the deal. >> president biden there taking a couple of questions on his way out of that room in south carolina as you heard him talk about what this moment means for the region and that he understands that the three women hostages just released i want to go to chief foreign correspondent richard engel live in tel aviv.

a critical moment for so many around the world. >> reporter: people here have been watching, some crying, a very emotional moment. there have been speeches and a statement given by the israeli military that three of them are inside israeli territory, that they are safe, that these three young women were greeted by their mothers that they are receiving initial medical care. that in the coming days in the next phases of this process each week it is expected that three to four more hostages will be released. this is just the start. >> richard engel, live for us untel aviv from hostage square, location where over the course of the last 400 plus days people have gathered, to show support for hostages still in gaza. a critical moment for both israel and gaza. we will have much more coverage coming up throughout the day. that concludes leader hakeem

jeffries. plus, a dreamer's legacy. our meet the moment conversation with martin luther king iii on the deep divisions in our pol six. >> what do you think your father would make of this moment? >> he'd be quite disappointed. >> joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander. amna nawaz, co anchor of news hour. former white house trump communications director and former white house jen psaki. if it's sunday it's "meet the press". >> the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with kristen welker. >> good sunday morning. tomorrow, a new chapter in our nation's history gets under way. donald trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the united states making him the second president ever to serve

non-consecutive terms. president-elect trump telling me in an exclusive phone interview on saturday he is ready for that moment including his decision to move the inauguration indoors. he said while it was a hard decision it was the right one, adding i think it would have been dangerous for a lot of people. he will take the oath of office and deliver his inaugural address from the capital rotunda which last happened for ronald reagan's second inauguration in 1985. >> we stand again at the steps of this symbol of our democracy or we would have been standing at the steps if it hadn't gotten so cold. >> president-elect trump also told me in that call the theme of his inaugural address will be unity, strength and what he calls fairness saying, quote, we went through hell for four years with these people and so, you know, something has to be done about it. former presidents obama, bush and clinton will be at the ceremony, but will not attend mr. trump's traditional inaugural lunch. among those not attending

tomorrow, former house speaker nancy pelosi and former first lady michelle obama. ahead of the inauguration, a parade of trump cabinet picks is making the rounds on capitol hill as the president-elect prepares to sign what he told me will be a record-setting number of executive actions. >> on day one i will launch the largest deportation program in american history. >> you promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. is that still your plan? >> absolutely. starting on day one we will end inflation and make america affordable again. >> i will be acting very quickly. >> within your first 100 days? first day? >> firsday. >> these peoople ve been -- how long is it? three or four years. >> the trump administration was expected to begin large-scale deportations as early as tuesday with an immigration raid planned in chicago, but mr. trump's border czar said on saturday the administration hasn't made a decision yet after early details leaked out in press reports.

the world is also responding to issue washington's power shift with the ceasefire with hamas setting a possible reprieve in the 15-month war. both president biden and president-elect trump trying to take credit. >> thank you. who takes credit for this, mr. president? you or trump? >> is that a joke? >> if we weren't involved in this deal the deal would have never happened and it was so ungracious of biden to say he did it. he didn't do anything. if i didn't do it, the hostages wouldn't be out. >> joining me is the republican speaker of the house mike johnson of louisiana. speaker johnson, welcome back to "meet the press"? glad to be with you and it is a great morning in washington. >> it is an honor to have you. we really appreciate it. i do want to start in the middle east with the ceasefire deal between israel and hamas. president-elect donald trump told me in that phone interview yesterday that this deal, quote,

better hold. mr. speaker, are you confident that this ceasefire will, in fact, hold? >> we are very hopeful of that. i spoke to prime minister netanyahu i believe on thursday of this past week. they are cautiously optimistic. hamas is a terrorist organization and they're not known to keep their word and we hope they're released in safety and we hope there is peace in israel. i will say this, if hamas breaks the ceasefire they need to know that the united states will stand with our ally israel and israel will have to eradicate that threat and it's very important for the stability of the region. >> by all accounts the first round of hostages that is set to be released are not americans. are you confident that the american hostages will be released in the coming days, if not weeks? >> we certainly pray that that is true. we met constantly with the hostage families. they're been in washington advocating for their family members. it is such a tragic situation, and so unnecessary, but again, it highlights the necessity of

israel taking decisive action. you cannot allow hamas which is i proxy of iran to be situated to have another october 7th and israel can't live under those conditions and president trump has made clear that we stand with israel and there will be hell to pay with hamas if they violate the tomorrows? >> what is hell to pay? >> president trump is coming back to restore peace through strength and that's what american people voted for and that's what allies around the world are counting on. >> let me ask you about the news overnight, tiktok going dark for million of users for the nationwide ban going into effect. both president biden and president-elect trump are signaling they want to delay the ban. they at one time supported the ban, but you were a very strong supporter of this ban, mr. speaker. you said that, quote, beijing is our number one foreign threat. you have called tiktok, a quote, serious and direct threat.

are you concerned by not enforcing this law the u.s. is sending a message of weakness to china? >> no, i think we will enforce the law and when president trump issued the truth post and said save tiktok, the way we read that is that he's going to force along a true divestiture changing of the hands and ownership. it's not the platform that members are concerned about. it's the chinese communist party and the manipulation of the algorithms and they've been glorifying violence and antisemism and even suicide and eating disorders and crazy stuff and they're mining the data of american citizens. it's a very dangerous thing and the communist party is not our friend. google and microsoft have taken steps to comply with the law. there needs to be a sale of full divestiture from the chinese communist party, and i think president trump is the one that

will make it happen so we're excited about it. >> as you say, he did post just this morning, save tiktok when i spoke with him in the phone interview on saturday, he said to me that he is likely going to impose a 90-day extension to give tiktok that extra time to divest from the chinese-owned company bytedance, but mr. speaker, they've had months to sell their ownership. why are they going to do it now if they haven't done it so far? why should americans have confidence? >> that's the question. we don't have confidence in bytedance. they've had 270 day, to be exact. the law is very precise. the only way to extend that is if there is an actual deal in the works. kevin o'leary and elon and others have talked about buying it, and i think kevin o'leary has an offer on the table. president trump is intrigued by this and he likes to make deals and we're hopeful that can happen. 270 million american people who enjoy the platform can enjoy it, but enjoy it safely and not have their data being mined by our

nation's enemy. >> let me ask you about the big news that you made this week, mr. speaker. you replaced congressman mike turner as the chair of the house intelligence committee. congressman turner has said publicly that you told him there were a range of reasons, including, quote, concerns for mar-a-lago. did president trump ask you it dismiss mike turner? >> of course not. the idea or the notion that this was directed by the incoming administration is simply false. there's a range of decisions that are made when you're determining chairmanship. i have nothing, but praise for my colleague mike turner and friend. he's a great leader and did a great job under very difficult circumstances in the last congress, but the whole intelligence community suffered a lack of trust, i think, over the last few years because of abuses and not on the part of yone in the house, but the intelligence community is the oversight mechanism that we have over that and it just seemed like a good time to have a new

change and that's all it was. >> you have a historical razor thin majority. you can only afford to lose two votes. did you just risk alienating a critical, moderate vote that you are going to need to get the trump agenda passed, mr. speaker? >> mike turner and i are trusted friends and colleagues. he will still be one of the top leaders in the house. in fact, i re-appointed him and asked him to serve again and he graciously agreed. he is the voice on nato. >> do you think you can count on his vote? >> he's a them player and he'll help us enact the america first agenda and he's america's leader and the chair of the organization. they'll be hosting that in his district in dayton, ohio and the nato leaders and colleagues are coming for that. he's a strong voice in terms of national affairs and the intelligence and he'll continue to be that. >> let's talk broadly about the trump agenda. at the top of his list his plans

fomass deportation. he told me in a previous phone call. there is no price tag for his mass deportation tag and by some estimates it will cost as much as $88 billion per year just to deport a million people. are you, as congress, prepared to support and pay for president-elect trump's mass deportation plan, no matter what the cost? >> i cannot think of a better dollar for dollar investment than to secure the security and safety of the country. we've had a wide open border for four years and millions upon millions of illegal persons and we have dangerous criminals who have committed violent crimes against american citizens and the best thing we can do is return the people from where they came. i think the american people understand that. i saw a new york times poll two days agago 87% of the american people agree we should deport dangerous illegal criminal aliens and that's what we'll do.

>> and yet the cost is staggering and you said last summer you on biggest national security challenge is the national debt. does that mean that you are committed to making sure that his mass deportation plan is paid for with offsets? >> sure. listen, the number one job of the federal government is protecting the citizenry. when you have a wide open border you don't have safety, security or sovereignty for that matter and president trump will follow through on the campaign promises. it costs money to do that, but that is a small investment in terms of what it cost us. the staggering cost and the lack of resources in our local communities that has been pulled and handle the sanctuary city that brought about and the crime wave that's been brought upon the country the and untold humanitarian cost in terms of trafficking and the fentanyl cause of death from americans 18 to 49 for the last few years. we have to get on top of of this.

getting rid of the dangerous element is what the american people want us to do. >> just bottom line, you are willing to spend trillions of dollars if that's what it costs to get this plan passed. >> it won't cost trillionon of dollars and the american people will support that effort and we'll begin with the most dangerous elements and you will see a dramatic change in the country because of it. >> president-elect trump has also said he was elected for two issue, the border and grocery prices. can you guarantee that under president-elect trump that grocery prices will come down? >> i don't think there's any question about that. we will return to fiscacal sany and common sense. we'll make sure we don't have the largest tax increase in u.s. history when the trump tax cuts would expire and then we'll turn the economic engines back on. we know how do this. we did it in the first trump administration. if you remember right before covid we had the greatest

economy in the history of the world. incomes were rising and labor participation rates were up and everything was doing better and covid hit and everything happened after that, but the way we did that is we reduced the tax burden on the american people, but even more importantly, the regulatory burden and that will be a major theme of the upcoming admintration and the congress because if you release the red tape you unleash the red market. >> is there one piece of legislation being targeted to bring down the prices? >> i was on the campaign trail all last year traveling around the country and i logged enough miles to circle the globe five and a half times. we won the senate majority for the repulican party and won the white house and we told the american people we would do well by them and what i said on the campaign trail to summarize, we have to fix everything. everything is a mess.

it's not just one switch that you flip back on. it's a number of them and we have to make it all work together and we will. >> let's talk about disaster relief for california. i want to tell you something that california governor gavin newsom wrote recently. he said, quote, there must be no conditions, no strings attached to disaster aid and yet we know that there's a big conversation happening right now on capitol hill about linking disast aid for california to an increase in the debt limit which has been a traditionally really thorny issue. are you and can you commit that california disaster relief won't have strings attached? >> no, i won't commit that because we have a serious problem in california. listen, there are natural disasters. i'm from louisiana. we are prone to that. we understand how these things work and then there awe 's alson error. when they make policies that make disaster worse we have to

factor that in. in california over the last couple of years they cut $100 million from forestry management and cut $18 million from l.a.'s fire department putting them into the other craze priorities and 117 million gallon reservoir that was left empty for a year outside pacific palisades and those are decisions they made based on whatever their ideas were, but it made it worse and everyone knew it would and the risk was there. >> so it could be linked to the debt limit. >> potentially, that's one of the things we're talking about. >> let me ask you about the pardons mr. trump has promised for january 6th defendants. when i interviewed him last month he would not rule out pardoning those pleading guilty to violent crimes. mr. speaker, do you believe that someone who assaulted a law enforcement officer on january 6th deserves a pardon. >> no, i think what the president said and the vice president-elect j.d. vance has said is peaceful protesters should be pardoned and violent criminals are not and it's up to

the president on that, but there's been a lot of talk about it, but we'll see what happens. president-elect trump, to be clear said he'll look at everyone and he's not ruling out everyone. my question for you is would you oppose a pardon for someone who has pleaded guilty for assaulting a police officer? >> every case has to be evaluated as he said and what president trump is getting at is the lack of faith that people have in our system of justice and it was abused in the last four years under the biden administration and the department was weaponized and when people lose their faith in our system of justice, that is what leads to these other concerns and president trump will restore that and we'll have new leadership. >> what will you be listening for? what do you want to hear tomorrow in the president-elect's inaugural address. >> we're all excited and everyone. you walk around this city and there's this sense of anticipation because we know that something big is happening here. i feel like it is the comparison to reagan this morning i think

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agreement. since then we have seen both mr.ed bien and mr. trump try to take some credit for this deal. let me ask you, leader jeffries, do you believe that president-elect donald trump deserves some credit for this ceasefire agreement? >> what's most important is that it was an act of diplomacy that was accomplished and first put into the public domain, of course, by president biden in may of last year having to secure the support of the then israeli war cabinet and the u.n. security council. we are thankful that israeli hostages and american hostages are on the way home. humanitarian assistance will be surged into gaza to provide relief to palestinian civilians and that the foundation will be laid for a path to a just and lasting peace with a safe and secure israel. >> just to the bottom line point, though, leader jefferies.

do you believe that president-elect trump deserves some of the credit for getting over the finish line? how do you see? >> i think that is a question that historians will have to answer moving forward. right now we should be focused on making sure that phase one of this plan is fully implemented and that we can move to phase two and phase three as it relates to the rereconstrucon of gaza, making sure that hamas is completely and totally eradicated and that there's a path toward a just and lasting peace. ? all right. let's talk about the trump agenda. president-elect trump's mass deportation operation is set to begin as early as tuesday. obviously, the details are being hammered out. he told me he plans to start by focusing on undocumented immigrants with criminal histories. do you support the raids that are expected to take place this week in major cities? >> we have a broken immigration

system and we certainly need to fix it and fix it in a comprehensive and bipartisan manner. that's by making sure we secure the border and house democrats have made clear that we are ready, willing and able to work with the incoming administration to get that done in a bipartisan manner. with respect to undocumented immigrants, what america needs is for the incoming administration to focus on violent felons, not breaking up families. >> so you would support removing violent felons first in these raids that are expected in major cities across the country? >> i support the current administration and the incoming administration doing what's necessary to ensure the safety and security of communities throughout the united states of america, and that, obviously entails focusing on the removal of violent felons who threaten

the well-being of the american people. you heard me justtalk with house speaker mike johnson about the price tag anticipated to be associated with this mass deportation plan. leader jeffries, are you prepared to vote yes to pay for this mass deportation effort? >> what we are prepared to do is to focus on the issues that matter and first and foremost that means driving down the high cost of living in the united states of america. housing costs are too high, grocery costs are too high, insurance costs are too high, utility costs are too high, child care costs are too high. america is too expensive, and what we need to do is to drive down the high cost of living and build an affordable economy for hardworking american taxpayers. we haven't seen any ideas, any plans, any bills put forward by

republican colleagues in the house to get that done. we are anxiously awaiting something to show that they're serious about that effort. >> and no decision yet on whether you'll support that mass deportation plan? >> with respect to deportation activities, as i've indicated, the administration needs to focus on the removal of violent felons who threaten the well-being of the american people. >> let me get your take on disaster aid, leader jeffries. you just heard speaker johnson say very clearly that yes, there may be strings attached, that yes, it's possible that they will move to try to link it to an increase in the debt limit. would you vote yes if that were to come before you? if that were the only way you believe to get disaster relief to californians? >> california delegation in the house has been very clear that

they do not support conditioning disaster assistance to the american people whose lives have been overturned as a result of the historic wildfires in california. in the history of this country, we have never conditioned disaster assistance to americans who are hurting? why would we do it right now? here is the answer in terms of why house republicans are proposing to do just that. house republicans want to pass massive tax breaks for billionaires and wealthy corporations to benefit the wealthy, the welloff and the well connected, and to stick the bill with working class americans and those in the middle class who they claim to want to support. that is not an effort. that is not a scheme that democrats will support. >> let me ask you, you said in your floor speech to the 119th

congress, quote, in a democracy there is a time to campaign and one to cover. is there one that you can identify today where you think you can find comon ground with republicans, where you are prepared to work with republicans? >> the american dream has been broken for decades in this country and there are far too many americans who are struggling to live paycheck to paycheck, can't get ahead, can barely get by and we need to step in, not as democrats and republicans as americans and public servants to do something about it to make sure that people can pursue the american dream of home ownership and educate their children and have access to healthcare and one day retire with grace and dignity. that's the american dream that has been broken for decades. we need to work together to fix it. >> there's a lot of question about a democrats' role,

speaking of 2024, in allowing president biden to stay in the race as long as he did. i want to play you something that you said back in february of 2024. take a look. >> do you think that it's time to pass the baton to a new generation of leadership or do you think joe biden is the strongest candidate to defeat donald trump? >> joe biden is definitely the strongest candidate to defeat donald trump. >> what do you say to americans who believe you and other top democrats misled them? >> well, joe biden was the incumbent president at the time. he was the candidate at the time, and i supported him at the time and that was the right thing to do based on the incumbent president making the decision that he was going to run. obviously, things changed in late june and early july, but i think what's most important at this moment is not for us to look backward, but to look forward. solve problems for hardworking american taxpayers and get things done.

that's what the american people want to happen. that's the message that i inch pretty from the november election, and that's the work this house democrats are prepared to do to make sure we're improving the quality of life for working-class americans and not the wealthy, the well off or the well connected. >> leader jeffries, i guess just bottom line, do you believe you had a responsibility to be more forthcoming about what you had seen behind closed doors as it relates to president biden? >> what i saw behind closed doors was a president who was working hard to get things done to deliver for the american people on infrastructure and driving down the price of life-saving prescription drugs and bringing domestic manufacturing jobs back home to the united states of america. it's important to understand that president biden inherited three different catastrophes on day one. a demeanor democrat see catastrophe, a public health catastrophe and all at the same

time and worked hard to put america in the strongest possible position moving forward. >> leader jeffries, very quickly with president biden set to leave the white house on monday, who do you think is the leader of the democratic party right now? >> we're going to work hard as house democrats to get things done for the american people. we'll have a dnc chair election at the end of this month. we look forward to, of course, working with our colleagues in the senate and democratic governors across the country in order to present a vision that is inclusive, that is decisive and anchored in making life better for everyday americans moving forward and we'll put it in the hands of the american people in two years. >> all right. leader jeffries, thank you very much for joining us and we appreciate having you on this very significant sunday. >> thank you. and when we come back, a new trump era begins and president

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the panel is here. nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander. amna nawaz, co-anchor of pbs newshour. former white house communications director mike dub ke. >> and former white house communications director jen psaki. peter, let's start with you. we know that president-election trump has said he'll sign a record number of executive aks and a flurry of activity tomorrow and also over the next 100 days. what will you be watching for? >> you talk about executive actions and he's touting dozens or perhaps 100. there was just one. this was a president who has a much better understanding of the way this job works. the rhythms of the job. he recognizes the window of time. he really has control all things in washington. he thz has to get to work, and has a broad mandate going forward and recognize this is a president who has spent more time as a former president of the united states than he ever

spent as a candidate before the first go. he's had a lot of folks around him and some say project 2025 gave us a preview and a lot of time to prep what they want to do this go around. i think the expectations that were very high from his is up supporters and now you have to start delivering on those things and oh, by the way, we know there are football fans and there's always a crisis that comes in and changes up what your plans may have been. we saw the fires in california and that could happen right away being as well. >> that's a great point and amna, you heard the under enzi in urgency and speaker johnson and he's laid out this ambitious agenda and speaker johnson is dealing with this narrow majority in the house. this will be an uphill battle in the expectations are high because that's where president-elect trump has set

them. look, e'll try push through party line votes on a bill that could include everything from border security and manufacturing and tax provisions and potentially lifting the ceiling with a razor thin order and there were member of his house caucus who basically said we're not sure of the first round of votes and they did get onboard very, very quickly. how onboard will they be when you see provisions that could be adding to the debt limit that don't want to raise the debt ceiling, as well and the reality here is that speaker johnson needs president trump. in some ways they owe him his gavel and will they have to get through as much as they possibly can and they want to split this into two bills and prioritize border security and deal with the tax provisions and the overarching reality is there is not really a republican lawmaker willing to say no to mr. trump. you have fomer rivals lining up in his cabinet.

liz cheney is gone. there's no reason that they won't push through what he wants. >> mike, what a different world president-elect trump enters than in 2017 which peter was touching on, as well. he's got this republican-controlled congress and he also had that in 2016 before and he's been here before and he's surrounding himself by loyalists. is there anyone in this mix who can stand up to him and say no? >> i think so. every administration walks in with a level of euphoria. speaker johnson talks about the excite am that's in wish wash right now, and i think we'll see that in the first few days. to your point, president-elect trump has raised the stakes, so to speak. but in the early days of the last administration there are unknowns on how to get this done and this administration has been there and done that. we will see more than one come out the first day, but what i'm

expecting to see is the shock and awe of an i.c.e. immigration policy happening in chicago or elsewhere. i think a lot of this will be less on the eos and more on the optics of what's happening and there will be a lot of action right out of the gate. >> it was notable to hear from leader jeffries and clearly, he's opposed to some of what president-elect trump is proposing and we'll try to find common ground as it relates to the economy lowering prices for the american public. >> watching that, i was thinking he's trying to send the message to democrats and congress and people at home, do not take the bait on every issue. we have to peculiar ick our bat. they don't control everything and there is a narrow margin. yes, he needs trump and he also needs jeffries to get things done and jeffries knows that. republicans control the house, the senate, the white house and arguably the supreme court so

badthings that happen in the country it's hard to pin on democrats. they have to figure out what battles they're going to fight and he clearly came in with a note card of the message he wanted to send which is a rt strategy for democrats. >> president biden has been very focused on his own messaging. he's dealing with real headwinds. let's look at the headlines this week. how biden destroyed his legacy. one of the great tragedies of american politics. biden's presidetial legacy, an era of change forever, maed by trump. how is he trying to write the first draft of his legacy and you have new reporting of the next 48 hours. >> he came into office as the president who defeated president trump and now he has paved donald trump's return to power. ththinking was that he would be this transformational figure early on with the big

legislative axe legislative achieve ments and choosing to run again and waiting to long to decide to drop out. in terms of how he's can impact his legacy, i was waiting for this conversation and i was told by white house officials yesterday there would be more pardons and commutations, and as clockwork, he has the pardons and commutations and the preemptive pardons and many in his circle thinks could be targeted and the liz cheneys and adam schiffs and the president is considering this, quote, very seriously that if they happen they're likely to happen tomorrow morning before he leaves offices and there were meetings with the senior staff. >> that would be significant. amna, what will you be watching for and what are the takeaways from president biden in the farewell address where he warned an oligarchy is taking root.

>> he's looking ahead to the next thing and the warning of what's to come was in line of him in 50 years of public service. i come back to the idea, that presidents are very complicated and they tend to get shinier the more time goes on and all of these things peter mentioned and he came in through a chaos, and led us through the pandemic and the fruits of which i think we'll be seeing in the future, as well. pushed through the ceasefire deal and all of that is part of this legacy, s too, is this idea that 46,000 death of palestinians are also a part of his legacy. this idea that he questions on whether he should have run or not are also part of his legacy, and if you can say anything about joe biden and tomorrow will mark the birthday of dr. martin luther king, jr., is this idea of never losing infinite hope. 50 years of public service, the legacy will be written over time. >> i was going to say watching that speech on thursday night it was not at all what i expected.

i thought the first part would be largely talking about his legacy of legislative achievements and lists . that's often what you mark in the speeches. he rarely speaks directly to the public. that speech was voiced to the public. he was saying i am no longer here. i can't protect, no one is protectioning you, american people, the supreme court not protecting you, congress is not protectioning you, the person sitting at this desk is not protectioning you and there's an oligarchy of rich people, it's up to you. you are the keerps pers of that. that was not a joe biden message. that was striking. >> why is this in the final speech right now and ironically the maga faithful tomorrow will be outside and all of the elites will be with them in the capital. >> the oligarchy. >> look, joe biden was a tragedy in three parts from his young

years to the middle and the vice presidency and the end and he left the stage too late and at the end of the day that's what the democrats will have to struggle with and deal with. >> that's what history will be looking at for years and decades and centuries to come. thank you for a fantastic conversation. when we come back, the powerful message from dr. martin luther king, jr. our "meet th our "meet th wounded warrior project empowers post-9/11 veterans and their families with life-changing programs and services. i faced my ptsd, and i'm a better husband and father because of it. we help warriors get the expert care and support to thrive. i got involved. i got healthier. i got to be an athlete again. through our programs, community and advocacy, we're proving anything is possible. learn more at wounded warriorproject.org/connect (vo) is your asthma rescue a dinosaur? airsupra is the only asthma rescue inhaler fda-approved learn more at wounded to treat symptoms and help prevent asthma attacks.

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to learn more about the books featured on "meet the press" press" nbc news receives a commission for sales made through our website. welcome back. as the nation prepares to honor martin luther king, jr., on the same day as the inauguration, i spoke with his son, martin luther king, iii. he's the co-author of a new book "what is my legacy" explorig

the weight of his family name and the ongoing fight to fulfill his father's dream. we sat down for a very special "meet the moment" conversation? martin luther king, iii, welcome back to meetthe press. >> thank you. honored to have the opportunity. >> on a personal note, i probably wouldn't be sitting in this chair if it weren't for not only the work of your father, but your father's legacy. every martin luther king, jr., day my mother would take me to an event honoring him and would use it as an opportunity to teach me about my history. it was a day of service, a day of reflection and so i thank you. i thank your family, and with that, i ask you, what do you think the day in which we mark your father's legacy means to little boys and little girls all across this country today? >> well, i hope that young

people and people in general see it asa day -- my mother used to say a day on and not a day off. usually we relax and chill. this is not about that. this is working to realize the dream that he had of freedom, justice and equality for all humankind. we come to the table every year and people will ask me, did we realize the dream last year? maybe we've realized elements over the years, but anywhere near the fulfillment of the dream, absolutely not. >> on that point, as we sit here today, we are a nation that is divided, fractured, struggling to communicate. what do you think your father would make of this moment in which we find ourselves? >> he'd be quite disappointed, quite frankly, that we are where we are. probably wouldn't be surprised,

buhe certainly would be disappointed because he always infused energy that was positive bringing out th best of who we as americans are, and quite frankly, unfortunately in great tragedy, we see the best of who americans are, but when it's over we go back to our corners and live in bubbles and separate. we need to xbl exhibit the beha that we see in tragedy all the time. >> you write in your new book "what my legacy," which i love this section because you talk very candidly about how you're grappling with your legacy, your work here. you say if dad had been a physician and owned a medical clinic, i could have built on his work by opening a chain of clinic, but my dad's name is known throughout the world and honored with a national holiday. i can't better that, so i've recalibrated my expectation of

myself. i hope i can be known for my own body of wok instead of the son of. i hope to be known as martin luther king, iii, who happens to be the son of martin luther king, jr. how do you come to terms with those complex feelings? >> i am grateful. so grateful for my mother who liberated me when i was 12, 14 years old. she said you don't have to be to morehouse college, you don't have to be a minister or a civil rights leader. just be yoyour best self. whatever that is we will support. i did end up going to morehouse and i did end up becoming a civil rights leader, but i did not go into the minh istry. not because it's something that i considered, but just because it's a calling. >> this year marks 60ers yoo y

bloody sunday, 60 years of the act. there have been enormous advances and progress made and also setbacks? >> my father used to say that whenever there is a perception and a reality of progress, there are always inevitable setbacks. 1963 when he was delivering the "i have "i have a dream" speech the nation was very excited and everything felt really great, but less than three weeks after the march the 16th street baptist church was bombed. when george floyd tragically was killed, for a year, we were doing all kind of incredible things to create opportunities for people who have been excluded historically. after about a year the pushback came and we started banning books and we started to dismount -- dismantle, dei. >> this year the day that we

remember and mark, youring for the's legacy is the same way of president-elect donald trump? you said you would be paying close to that. >> he has said that he wants to create some semblance of unity. now what that means you have to be in dialogue with everybody. if you really want to bring the nation together so that it is the manifestation of whwhat we call ourselves the united states of america. we are not reflective of the united states of america right this moment, in my judgment. >> you've talked so much about your father's dream for this country. what is your dream for this country? well, in a similar way, my dream is in alignment with my mom and father because i wished that we were at a different place and the work had been done. so i believe there is a consciousness that's coming. not here yet, but coming, and so i want to be a part of helping

whatever i can do to mach us this truly amazing nation, the nation that it ought to be. >> and you can watch my full meet the moment conversation with martin luther king iii at meet the press.com. that is all for today. we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the ♪♪ ♪♪

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