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for a crime heidn'mmit. i just codn comp e -dide e do it? tonit insidehe debate atins llowed for decade. >> tevidenas pland the police? othi tt suf this edencwas d. >>o you ha evidence that coee sven avery. >> rarand ing intervie, hear from both sides. >> new that he's aware of new testin he's thrilled. >> a savvy, exrienced cral. >> i'm lr lt a thiis ateline" here'anea canning. >>po: it's t's first binge-watching phenomenon, "making a murderer," the n true crimeocumentaryn netflix.
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tht that it would this kindimpact >> repter: the 10-part series, nse with details, has spired online sleuths, whithouse petitions, and its share ocontroversy. steveavy's guiltynd desees t rightre he is.>> there ia rderer out ere. and he's not that murderer. >> reporter: it all foows th case of steven ave and his long jouey through the iminal justice system. jourwhich ben re than years ago in niwoc, wionsin. aking a murderer" has rust the stevenvery ce back into the ne, putting this sll of a mediairtorm. bu"deline" was he yea o,epti on th story. no'r, looking all thstunni twistto the case along with factsevidence a interviews not incded the domentary. wee en on e ound knng on do p
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talking to key players in the ca >>ife istrange sometimes. in this case, it's rlly strange. for nny, life in manitowoc was sweet, literally. her family owned a popar candy store that h been local xte for nerations. but onul29th 1 tha serenity was destroyed >> if i had opportuty to ke back one day, woun' have tink icouwhat dawould take bk. >>orter: penad ge to e beacwith husband and
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a dedicated runn, penny ft her faly to go for a jog along e shor that's when she notid man acng suspiciously. >> he ran from bind the bushnd w head s me imely ewhahe waed >> rorr: says e nicked a hd for th war, b he ht up with he iai " got twooung childrenplea let mgo." anything i thoughte need to hear and maybe if hrd it woleme go. reporter: s ss heeg beating her and manding sex. and then, eveua he straleme until i belie i lost consciousness. >> reporter: she wup, and wi help from beach-goers, made heway back to hesband and to theospital. there manitowoc county sherf's deputy askeder to describe her attacker. >> i remember saying he had a beard d ustache. >> reporte pny provided a deriion and this sketch was latereleased. she sa the sriff then aske r to look through ni photos
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>> iked carefully at each photo and i selected steven s oto. >> reporter: steven avy, tn 23, had a passion for cars, and worked at his mily's large autoalvage yard. he had growing fily wi a wi a five young ilen his boys. sten's cousin. kim remeers whenutrities ca to arrest himjustours tenny out tha oto. >> what d u ink,n you heard at? -- th ian extre seriaccution. >>ightrothe stt, i though "oh, my god. eyave the wrg guy. s . stevie don dthemhings." ror but pennyold us that back th, e felt cert >> i think my confence that had selected theht person bowhen i was td e pers thearst was t spect th thehad inind.>> reporter: pnylso viewed a live lineup several ys ler
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>> steven averhad l the wrong things going for him. >> rorter: michael gribach is an author and aistant distct attnein manitoc coun. >> who was the steven avery that the police knew back in the day? >> steven avery was known r quita while to theice and to the who cmuni. rorr: aas rki al record. >> what did he do? >> he poasoline on a cat d threw the t in the fe. pret, you ow, telling things t -- what was gog on in his nd, vient stuff. he also had rammed his pickup truck -- into the vehicle of a woman who was iving . and he hd her at gunpoint. >> repter: ave had been convicted of burary as well. in penny's case, ary was chd with attempted murder, false imisonment and sexual assault. >> i was jt absote devastated, when that ppened. it's like, there's no way stevie did somethin' lit. >> reporter: avery plead not
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>> he produces 16 alibi witnesses who confirm at he was in green bay 75 minutes after the sault ocrred. >>ig. so it was a ve good alibi as thesthgso. >> reporter: but pen stif and hernwaving identificaonf ery made a rful case for thstate. then iwas the jury's turn. >> it seemed like itook forever for the verdict to be read a, when it was read, having this huge sense of relief that steven avery d en convicted saulting me, and that dangerous man was off t streets. >> reporter: a judennced ery to 32 years in prison. >> a, steve was turned down on every appeal. i was glad. a sense that maybe c start to put this behind me. >> reporter: but that was not to
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she had no ia wh lay ahead for her and foavery. en we come back -- >> i saito him, hat's this about another suspect? >> reporter: ds creep into the case. t ence ouoint toeone else? t dna came ba to not steven avery, buto a kno sex offender. >> i rememr thinking, "oh,y go maybe the wrongerson's in custody." custody." y the samsung gala s6 an one fr e gee ee no mr w yohangut, share y minutef it right now a buy samsung gala sand geonfr. indulgence... lgeat a price.
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was sennc to prison for 32 years. conviction. >> twoimes in the court of appeals, they uphe it. >> repter: still, he insiste the manitowoc county sheri had rested t wrong man. and somethers in law enforcemenouavy right. 'secse the citpoli department had another man on their radar back in 1985. >> a man by the name o egory allen, who the manitowoc city police department, opposed to t sheriff's surveillance for a series of ,, >> hould have been, right off the bat, a suspect.
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been incded in the original boers penny to ts day. >> reporter: and in r interview th dateline ba in 2005, penny hersreveed somethg sttling -- pennld ue got call city policdepartment, not ng afr the sheriff's departnt bars. e identified himself, and said, "we havenother suspe in mind who is notn avy, but whlos a greadeal le steve. and we'd like to ask you somquestions." rorte pny says the mapoective never med susp a tall really rattl. >> i remembehaing up the phinng mgod, maybe the ong peon'scustod >> reporter: pennyaid sh called the sheriff. >> and iaito him, "what's this about ather suspect?"
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poce department doesn't have risdiction. we willo ithis don'talk to them, it will only confe u." >> reporter: steven avery sat prisonor the next 16ears. then in 01got th wiscn nocence prect ke os ca. the ats there wereble to get two hairs --ndn penny afr her atck -- ed for dna. in sepmber 23, were in. andrea griesbach, who was working the d.a.'s office ba then, remembers that moment well. >> i received a telephoncall along with another prosecutor in the ofce, from the wisconsin state crime lab.>> repter:e calls the crime lab employee askinhim and his collgue if they we sitting down. >> because she had some news that might be shking. thdna came back to not steven averybut to a fellow who s a known offender still serving time in prison for a crime that he coted ten years after the assault of penny beerntse >> reporter: penny's husband and a friend broke the news to her.
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beforehetold m just by t ct tneithe color inhe face. >> reporter: td t e longed to none other tha gregory allen. the man the manitowoc police told the sriff's office they should have been looking at in the rst place. >> that day was much more difficult than the day of the assat for . i just couldn'grasthe magnite of being, you know, an huge mcarriage of juste. >> you raped peneerntsen. >> no, iidn' >> repr: aenie assating penny when "dateline" spoke with him in 2005, and was never chgewithhe cri, because state from pso te18 years of darkness a
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h go, , steve. >>ea could stay out here all day long and nobody tell me whato do. that fls gd. what did you say to him?what he to you that day? >> ihink i cmented on hi beard. 'cause it was so bignd long. and i ld him to ge it. and i told him iovedim. i gl thaase. >> reporter: home to a new life, as he ca the poster child in wisconsifor wrgful convtis,estifyat the stcapito >>y faly stoed c for whil iwas ha. so tn the oady to lee. epnyante ke ts righ ev aryand ance the t metace fac madison. ian by ing an sang hquate asw dser said"is it alrig igive yog?"and he didn't wait for an answ. he hugged me andhen i said so
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sory." he saiback, "it's ok, penny, is ov." r:ryame penny, butdiame e matowoc distctttorney and sheriff, suing them fo $36 llion r his wrgful icon at made m nervou >> i did tell him be careful, you know? manitowoc sn'tone with him. >> why did you thi they ren'doneith >>ust g stoltheyeren't gonna hthat stav$3miny a moy, treus g to be ngim.>> reporter: a sooputies would be wching,ecause when a mawent msingn niwo lasrs t see r alive apar to be steven avery. coming up: >> we just want her to come
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decido.justant ome . r pas este for >>e eg y we ks out the. we just want to finder. >>eporte kra was the district attorney of calumet counack in 2005. heord with investitors tracking teresa's cell pne activi id you get a ied on herl phone? we -- we goformation th ggtehephone was usedn rothe vicinity often avery'salvage ya. >> reporter: it s a stunning turn of events. stev avery was bacin the osairs olaw emt.he q cera had been at e yard on october 31 she'd come by to take pictures ofhis van th his sister was
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teresaveft voicemail be shetopped by. >> hlohis is ta with trader magane e otraer jt vioutoet you know tt come there today. umm, in the afternn, iuld probably be ound:0 >> repter: twohings kr noticed, even thgh tesa had the bto shoot photos, e di't seeto kno where shwagoin >>onave your arer ytso itop out tting a callacom >>orr:nd avery had placed twoalls to r that day bublkes caller. he told invests resa did find her way and left around 2:30 after she took the photos but investigators couldn't fin anyone who had sn her sie that vis to avery's. for daysw enforcement
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then, a break. police got >> we are age reporteers ser sand somend of th poed in t counri. e haveound a rav.its l up il coved >> notll cover, but it's got a lot stuff on it, branches. >> reporr: it was teresa's righthere in the avy salvagyard. >> thiis aig momt toin thcar. it is the moment. is the momentharns this caa missing person instigation into crimil instigation. >> repter: crimeechn transported teresa's carthr b, where it s scoure for eviden. me ood is -- is found in the vehie.fema blo is uninhe vehicle. it's gonna take a couple of days to get a dna profile. >>eporter: calumet count authories ok td in theseecause of the peg lawsuit avy had fid agnst manitowoc ty. teives questneavery agn.
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>>eresa. >> oh, no. >>nd did have you anything to do at all ther disappearing? >> no, no. >> a the only time that she' ev bn r use is jt tono othor. yeah,t'it. >> repr:tz says, otinterv ave aed thisail. >> he also says rtan th he never tohethe car, nevetohes thsuv at all >>orter: buthevidee seed to tell dfent y. th blo spaicul, founonoa o tesa's carthe ime lab determined it was avery's blood. interestingly, ave showed deputies a cut on his finger. d detectes zeroed in on meing elsecas ho latch,he they found avy's neood goor avery. but, just as he had fore, he insisted they had the ong guy.
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>> rorter: he spoke out to nbc's een bay afliate wgba in a sers of ry seen intervws. >> did you have anything to do with teresa's disapprance? >> no, n d never do nothing lik that >> reporter:ut iesgators didn't bel himontinu to search. asstt d.a, mike iesbach rembers whend abt thxt, gruesomeiscove near avery'srailer. >> it's one those scenes u don't foet in -- iyour mind. a poce dog hit on thisurn barrel, where human bones and remains we found. >> reporter: oeralso found bones in a second lotion on e avpropty. ey we lar confirmed toe tesa's >>that point, we knew that this was indeed very likely where teresa halbach met her st day. >> reportehe after ip searcs inve's r,neore big cl. a manitowodetective sa he
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teresaent missing, d.a. kratz held a news conference. intenile a crimal complaint inanitowocounty chargi steven avery with first degreenttion hicide. >> reporter: steery'two years of freom suddenly screeched a halt. the poster child for wrongful coiconwas behind bars once again. asprmake eisekrz'te w stk. theytill didn't kn exactly how and where teresa died. theneay march, 2006,our months after tesa's death, ken kratz callednoth big press nference. heaid evenvery's nephew d confsed that he anavery kiederestogether kratz went io graphic detail which we won't repeat here >> there is a subsntial amount of physical evidence tt now
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alright? now fits a lot of pieces togeth. reporte the procutor charged thew, 16ear-old brendan dassey, as a co-conspirator in teresa's rder with dassey's statements, kratz began constructing a narrative. and investigatorrerned to the ery propty once more and found this ihis gage, a et fraen witre's dna on it. >> it matched the fle at was over sveavery's d. >> reporter: with th, krat d a final ece of the puzzle. even ary's tal began in february, 2007. >> all othe evidence points to one peon. >> repte.akratz didn't call brendan dassey to the and, belied on the physical ence to sayhahe lieved happed -- steven avery lured teresa out to s property, uisingis calls to her. atz said that when she got e, ary shot her in his he then shed her io the back
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body. >> the physical evidence, th dna cethe eyness testimon the senfievidence, common sense all point to one person. reporter: b avery defse rneys id thaen in cet different direction. >>t woula caook ke if somebody was g fred it wouldlot likehis case. >> reporter: coming up -- thkey. andrea, your theory is te y was planted? >> the bones. >> there was clear evidee that the bones habeen moved. >> the blood. rteut it re started to lk su. was y his en wt it seemed?
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wisconsi deastng ander buting. >> theast jority of their evidence was all circumstaial. >> in ur aorneys set out to prove sple defense -- steven avery was framed for the murderf re hbathe nitowoc county sheriff's department -- desperate to stop hi36 million doar civil lawit. avery said as much in his interviews with reporters. >> reporter: who would wanna s you up in someg li this? >> the only thing i can ink mow countth t money., they didn't to pay thou >>le he was awting tri ery settled his 36 milon dollar lawsu for 4 thousan dollar y wrgdoing avy he money for his defense. during the tal, defense attorney buting ldhe jy that the s's evidee was weak, and cod ealy have beenplanted, beginning with thatar key. >> youtheory is that the key was pland in the residce? >> thais wre wthought the
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detective who fod that key shouldn't have been there at all because of the lawsuit. and he only fod thy after the trair had be searcd multiple tes. >> it not foun, yo know, six or sen earlier entries this trailer. and we're talking about a trailer itn't add . >> reporter:o you think there's any chce that thatey ulve been uck behind at -- >> no. >> n none. it'sust two-elf end tae, you casee l e way to thback ers no place it could be >> what's more at trial, prosecutors told the jury that key, but -- >> t odd tng was they didn't find her dna, even thoh is is supposedly a key that she would every day. fragment with teresa's dna found bullet arguing that it, too, circumstances.
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searches othe ga back in nomber two, it was the only piece o evence that had teresa halbach'dna on it. >> in factavery's wyers thought thysical evince the state had nking him to the murder wasll suspect, incling te's bones fnd outside hitrailer.>> there was car evidence, undisputed evidence, that the bones had been moved. >> rorter: why are you so sure at the bones were moved? >> becse there were bos foinwo difnt locas. he dense argued that the ved bones show avery codn have killed teresa. >>ec nobody would take body, burn isomewhere, and come and dump the bes right ouide your o that made no sse at all. >> andhat eviden from the ho latch? >> reporr:ow do you exain even avery's dna being found on theood tch of the c >>hat realas sort of red heing. the dna that was fou was not a large quantity.
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might find from a transferred type of dna. >> buting believes an evence te at the scene may have gottenvery'sna on glove and thennsfeed ito t tch by accident. wereo fingprints of mr. avery anywhere on the hood latch or on the hood area the latch is or anywhere on the v4insi or ou b the stain of aver bld founin tera's was what rbe focor e attoeys. thatau butinne ame of aryod d en takeng his wrul conviion s be and it sllat in e manitowoc county clerk's office. when we wento the clerk's office and saw that there was still a styrofoabox that i-- had be sliopen with evence tape, we g a court order to--
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and have them en it in front of erybo. >>t was captured on video and ma part of the crt recd. >> repter: what did you think en you saw that tapeadeen cut? >> i tho it was suspicious. >> and butinnod someing he thought seemed very strange about e blood vial. >> wsaw -- a hole in the t it started tlook reall alcis. >> with the toey thout h a comllg argunt- thr eoryomhad bld hat orsa and plaed it in re'saro fram avery forder. >> the vialood has a hole. >> but t psecuon said t t. cheinteth blood in the viaa eservative in . when the fbi tested the blood from t car, it didn't fi that preservative present. so the prosecution argued er was way it coulha bn planted.
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standpoint is ablutely alhe defse gave the ottoline- e ts of evidce kratz preseed didn't support the brutal mu sce had described and could have easily been planted. >> reporter: do you believthat there's no way he committed this crime? >> from the evence i've looked at i thinke is innocent. i think he certainly was n guilty beyond a reasonab d under the evidence thawas presented. >> we the jury find the defeant steven avery guilty. >> b the jurors didn'telieve it. ter six eks of trial they found steven avery guilty of murdering teresa halbach. ery was now headinback to prison this me, for life -- with that, aarting rebuke from e judg-- >> you are probably the most
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>> rorid you feel likeu had t stevenown way?>>ays do --hen yo, waysecd-guessing yourself. brendadaey wlso cod of murder for s role, and sentend to lifin prison. to have ended -- butwo fimakers wou come to iite the case in a whe wa >>oming -- wi? >> you could definitely see between the stopper and the glass >>r coulthere be a hoin the who theory?>> repter: there's a hole at the top. >> when dateline continues. >>line continues. thhronic,ad pslowed me down my doctor anagedhamo more helps easeibromyalgia pain. he also prescribed lyra. fome patient lyrica significantly relieves fibromyalgia painand improves physical fution. th less pain, feel betr. serious allergic reaio or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your door right away
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>> rorr:ine years ago, steven avery was snc to life in prison. but in all that time two filmmakers, laura ricciardi and moira demos, we shooting and editg the hundreds of hours of footage, which became "making a murder." >> are you surpris at how it's just completely exod? >> i am. i mean, i've gotten emailsndontas from terally all over the world. >> reporter: the ten-part series examines the trials of steve aver takinviewers behindhe scenes as jerrbutingnd dean strang make their defense ca. >> all rigso that's it, that's the evidee. wh? n we arguit. wesitatirst t i realized tt you knowthis wld be an oppouny toee whait
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>> reporter: former osutor kekrdid not ipate in the netfx series. anwhile he did winn the urtroom, he's now playing defense in anoer court, blic opinion. he continuesrefu t denss ry tt stev ary washe victim of a frame-y the towoc coty sheriff's dement. >> with any one of these facts, you can me up wi a wt-if scenario. at some int is conspiracy theory collapses under its own ight. right now focuses on that vial of avery's blood at the center thry. in court the defense cldn't prove as used to p the blood stain in teress car. but a scene "making a rderer" s re-iited the debate. >> the seal was clearly broken. >> that's really the big "aha" moment >> yeah, it was. >> and get thiright in the center of the top of the tube is a little tiny hole. just about the size a hyperdermic needle. >> reporter: kratz saythat
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ained. >> erythese vacu-sealed s is exactly the sa. they're l gonna have that. nothing gic or, oh my odness, look itaered with. >> ken kratz said that there should be a hole in the stoppe going intohe vial. at's how the blood gets into e . >> wl, actlly it depends some of them don'to it that way. d when thedo, ey're selfealingo that there wouldn't be this kind ofole, ke, keas vible in paictoerepter:ndutinsan clos examinationhe notic something else about that bld al. part didkehe documeary. t couldenitely see at, oh, right up to the edge, there was bld around in between the stopper and the glass. >> so whatoes thell you >> that the stoppe theubber stopper had to have be removed fr the tube after the blood waput in there, in some y or
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>> reporter: we spokwith dennis ernst, who is one of the nation's leading expertsn bld collection. he hadlen the avery ia >> aroun theef tornointut that ood gatheredetween t ass and the stper. is that someing you should see or is it somethingaybe sinister? >> no, n sinisteat all. at spper inoa colete tit t do at e ween t itypiand mmon see blood ghering aroun the str ound the insidof the tube. >> a tre's a hole at the p. shoul holbe tre? >> wl, i it tt ere. there's ways a telale puncre mark in theubes tha are properly filled so the esen of a holeeans absolutely nothing >> rorter: we so went to t niwoc coty clerk's office and saw someing interesting. court donts show a prison nurse was preparedo testify that she made the hole when
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but buti ss somethinmore suspicious than the holeas- >> t ft that the evidence tape that normally wou seal the stopr d the be ielf wamissin and th tre was no explanation for. >> reporter: last weeke spoke with the current manowoc county sheriffobert heann. >>hat would you say to -- to people who just feel that yo sheriff's department was corrupt, that steven ave was framed well, i first oall - i know it's not true. i have 100% confence in the deputies tt weuthere. toay that, you wouave have a lot more people onboard to- y that evidence wa planted, or steven averyas framed >> is there a possib scenario ere steven avery itruly guilty, as hwas fod to be, but that someone played litt ose with thevince?
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elhant cou comwalkin through -- theacdoor over there. it's certainly possible -- it's hily unlikely. nothing about is case, suggests that anofhis evidenaslant. >> repmang murrer" y have renewed that dete, but there's a brand new chapter opening up many th case. cong up -- >> do u think you have new eviden in thcase of steven aver >> i wanna namcleare >> ancera new toey for steven avery. new pe for hephe >>rywho sathatilm is ky storin ameca my colleion is vintage inspired... with fwing les that e a sense of timelessness. beuse i want every woman toeelike a star.
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> rter"makg murdereranthe publit suin havma steven averyne of the most famous prisoners in erica. in rect leers wisconsin dia, avery h insisted, "the re killer is still out there." today brought demonstratnsn both sides of the case in manitowoc. >> how doehe feel out all thattention at this getting righno >>e's ry excited. he's been saying it fo11 years now that he's innocent. he's happy that people are finally listening. >> reporter: "making a murderer" is making anher proner faus, too. remember brendan dassey? brendan told investigators tha he had helped his cle even ll teresa. but he immediate recanted the
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ma viewers who have seen the confession tapes. >> telus, d wh else did you do come on. thing with the head. >> reporr:is new attorneys, stev drizin anlaura nide sabrenn wajust6 years old th, s a w iq, anwas coaxed into making a false confession after investitors fed him details the crime. we ha the evidence brendan. we just need you to -- to be hostith us >> that he cut off h hair. >> whaelse was done to her head? >> that puncheder. wel? atid he make you do, brendan? it's okay. what did he make you do? >> cut. >> what else hpens to hein her head? it'sxtremely, extremy important u tells is, for us to belie yo come on, brendan, what ee?
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>> all right, i'm just gonna co out and ask y. who oter in the head? >> hdid. >> then y didn't you tell that? >>cause i couldn't think of it. >> reporter: at the end of the tape, he can be heartalking to himom. >> they got to my ad. >> huh? what do you mean by that >> "king a murder"aseen a revelation for brendan's seecauseor t first te en years, 's final getting his sty liened to. >>eporr: and histtorneys saat storyrean told investatorsimply doe h e evidence. for example, hdescribed a bloody stabbing scene in ary's traile yet investigators nev found any of tesa's blood there. >> the film restored his presption of innocence everybody who saw that film is left wh one indelible
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trial." >> reporter: his attorneys have ked a deral courto revie his case. >> do you think brendadassey might actually get a new trial? >> i don think so. >> reporte ken kratz osecuted both cases and still believes brendan is guilthat hiconfsion fit t evidence. but does ha one rret, that graphonnce press heve >>here is a sutantamouofhycal evidce. ng tdo ial again, i uld not ha given tha ess erence. i woulhave simplreleed the complaint. >> rorter:etraed friday his otheregrs are personal. "makina muerer" highligh a scanl heac aft the ave verdic krz regned in as calumet county d.aafter he admitted to sexua[ laughter ] y haraing a ct in domesticiolence case
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>> repd the hassment to the police who -->> reporter: kratz ss he's a chand man. >>ook backo the bravad and e rcissism really th i riend expresd. and it is surprisingo me, yo . i s a jerk >> rorter: kratz, now a defense attorney, still stands by his prosetions ofh brenn dass and sven avy. >> sven avery's guilty a desees to be right wre he is. >>ter:his woman sagrs. avery's new toey, kathle zelln, is natioll knowfor wig wronul convictiones. i caug up h thi afternoon as she was about to visit avery in prison. it's first interview since taking on the case. mlion dolr queson doouhink youave ne steven avery? >> we do, yeah. >>there anytng you can ll us abthat?>> well,an tell you, generally, thae 07, there have bn significt advaesfonsic tesng. sothat's one of the things we're doing. >> areou g to retest the
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wwi devng necethat's fensicay avlable. >> you actlly boht rav 4. the sa - >> i did. >> model as teresa's, why? >> well, because want to untand the hood latch, baery cables, where the blood was supposedly found in the car. i want to examine what was not teed in the r that should veeen sted >>o you any alterte suspects? >> yes we do. we do. >> clear thether people wre loong at. thatlways done in a case like this. how is stev doing? >> steven doing mucbett. stevennothat he's aware that thers new testing that can be ne, he'shrilled. when someone wants ery possible tt done that could be done, that would pro their ilt or innocen. that's when they're innocent. >> reporhaelriesbach writtea okbout the avery case, "the innocen killer." heaythat with all the attention this story has received, one voice has been missin >> do yothinshe's been forgotten in all of this? >> i think sheas been
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somehow, we have to try to keep sighof that. >> reporter: in our seares thugh the ence in this case, came across one me e of tape. a grainy veo dia teresa de -- prosecutors play it at averyntenci to remind people of a life lost. >> i just want to ow that whenever i do di i just want people i love to know that whener i die, that was happ >> reporter: that's all for this edition of datline, we'll se again sunday at 7:00, 6: llo everyone hello everyone andhanks for joining us fors fivet n. i'm rob quirk. and i'm lisa lyden.
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