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czemedinnarumanarlint aneree havehe idtic sihereh is theyano p heerthf you and your doctor. my views are polaoppose positesof bothf the. if i'm ected rell be no amnesty,were f eed w will repeal every wo of obamare sot giscl and simple cce f the voter >> let talk aut two sues he that seem t potentially tripping you up here in iowa. one is ethanol. you ar -- have come outgainst these ssidis.yove called it arave train. a lo of ions includin the republican governor doesn likeit. i going tothese numbers, isn't understandahy ns liese subsidies. ethanol and biodieselupport more tan 46,000 jobs, generated $2 billion for wan houseld state with unyment der . this is port rt of their economy. >> aolut li m vew on energy should pursu allf the

economy. >> but w no mes and b u sisubsid thopttng me obistnd isbyiwhke nddsf tou on lobbng l. fam mas atonf money. th lobbyistse mhnto keep iwa foc on the l nda beuse i ia dmedepen o shinoneve yeave tobacashingtnda mand lbyisge ns pa sidi f oil agas,o bsidies foranybody. he pece thas impta aesonating is i'm gong to al trown the epa's eanol blend al whic ea makeit ga mievlesofetha that in canxpand ean sha of t mtplae by 0% t not based oandes and sub andubsidies based on the free maet.

of time in iowa look at you talking about milevel fusales. at th end o theda how does this not hur t iecom hat's wveranstad is saying. a ve fo y i gin to hurt the economy. >> but, chuck the point i made this actually would expand the owa econy. right now ethanol is banging into the rfs. it's essentially the blendall is cap.aeoe in iowaknownv as i've travele arnd ando town haetanol's no endin shar becse tha is pevtingit from. he wayo otherdate pgedo re tld wal nother cdidates focusi on the fure forethal. and you knowmene whooined me on m b tou across the ate, flowamed dave anderindilt more than haf ehaol pantsinhe iowa.hhe o wstites you ld see a60%arket inease. knoo' hrt my the lobbyist in washitond the people who are helped a iowa farmer and jobs here i t ste of iowa. >> one finalquestion, you talk about ronald reagan a lot.

of have a presency like his. he famously had aterrific relatnshipdemocr tip n o'neil.he gt stnee u a pioi tobe able to tffne >> absutely. how? >> in entire time o the sate i've treat every meer he senatithivily and respect. >> i dot thi mitch mcconnell wo say tha >> as others attack me, i don't respond inkid. when daltrumpallsa adian or i do'tspondsu in fact, i sing dona praes. e i thi h's bo and brash. i think he'sbeen too willingo get deal and grow gve suprtm, t 's aolicgsngs. f tdawh reanb he cny? becae he bgrassrts ment tt reaan revolutioned tat turdthis untry ard. thawhat we oig.

principled conservative to not get burned again, they need t come outondayht 7:00 p.m. >>'m goingo leave it there enator cruz, you have to finish the fl gssley. > my nextuest florida senator marco rub und stne ck fhe cruz cpan in recen day act, take a lo t ad they put o on ru's immigration stanc >> i am not a i will nevponeerhave n suprtnyblaet blanket legaliztion amney. mrc rubiof eying cureesty. >> one t architects of tpl senator marco rue yoebbio. it was mrco rubio a member of the gof eigh and ted uz tha sn't. >>na marcouojos now. senator, wme ba t "mee thess." >>k yo you jt ha a endly hu wthnator c the.thanosuch aendiendlyad hee. gs the ise of the gang

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s e lonte s. he aeoe ve theolitical s to it allat hey not tst the federal vnmt to enforceimmiio laws. and as resu the key that unlocks the door to make pgress on illegal immigration is to brg illegal immigration under contl first. and we will do th when i'm president. >> i've had a lot of publicans inowa that i' tked toho really like you and tn ty y won repudiate the gang of eight? >> that'not how we're going to do i i'm presidt.s notoinoe w that wll pa -- >> do you regreterein volved loriedix a prblemis is realproblem. re aree today? we areworse off today than we werei yearsag we have mo illega immigrants here. we have twounconstitutional exutive orders on amnesty. ient toashington to fix a problem. immigrion is srious problem. itmpts matand the st that i le in we are pacd ialimigraon in aatic y. isue has bet w each year it geer to solv morfficult to solve, but iis nowlear more than ever before tha you are not goingo be ab to do anythg

in legal immigration der control and provitto people. not just pass a law that sa it andth's how we're going to do it i'm predent. >> you havelud tthe fact ma ist t ofreouight be on wtoo for anith the undocumented do you thi this ist' lding youcagn ck hat the differce betwe third and cond or thdnd firsfor you is your miraion position? >>n look, we h 11 people runnfor president that are running competitive campaigns. 11 eople on the gund iowa spending money,mpaigning, worng hard temselves to gain voters so a lot o this ismented right now. ted cz is clearly the fro-runner in wa. he h 00 votes, spe millions ofdollars here, got everyndsement he ed.e alway kne that going , bute feel reall gdbo th progress we' makng he weveake on more negative attacks than every othe ndidateined. b 's supuper pa bacalt a thirdf ioney attking and we keep growing and feel posiveabut . we feel posive out wh it's going to mean monday night in

>> yo broughtp the p and trade issue. ll play the full quoteof what you said. frihould potion itself for what ielve is inevitable and tt isa feder c and trade program. florida should doeverythit cano be an early comeli s can access early compliance fdsnd hellu what thatap and tra looks lke at the federal level. so i in favor ving e department of environment protectn a mdate that they go out and dign a ca and trade or a ca tax pam andg itack to the lesture ratifici some timein next o years. all right avou fll coext thre. no, you didn't. thers more aft clip >> we'llexplain. >> >>toesme aossas y're sain it's initabo florida has to prepare. >> but whatou just played is not the full clip. right after that i said i'm not favor of implementing it. i'm in favorof them bringing it bk tohelegislature. i do not support big government mandat. the co tt at in 2006 and'0 wenadg candidates for president were jn ain baraoma,

d ias e speake othe hose a i sid th i chaat the feral government will pass cap and trade. i'm not in for of it bu if the , we have toe prepad to comply with that requiret even if we don li it. d i dot want it tohe stat flora mone have toco evyonknew . theemocts knew tt sion. enhaly christ oposed cap andtrade, i w the first person t speakut of itin ll op-ed in the miami herald. rig afte that there's even more. >> this get at what sort of i think is cen f all of the candidateson both sides is you're bsically saying, oo you got to sometimes vern withha u have, n with whatu want. >> right. >> but e votersey mre than that. the voters sm angry. ey'reatisfied with ts idea atoukw,ou're doing the you got to work with wht you have in washington, not with wt you want. you know, i don't ink that's true. i thinkoters understd to solve probls it's going to

unch oh su. i thnkpe undstan high educat ids,i k udeoan amic is ug m. wee toingo hree , but ink ter a patin ytok on ing withent tht's w wk with mark warner on it d w with other oplen this sort of e. the aressueat we're not gogo agree on. ring obacare, that'y we ha elens. i nk ife's chae to orgeer'eotraou inciples u wk gether. uthe are iss ere y can't do . thas y ave elecns anddatendthos sor of tngs in america >> why are yo e personally mo popular republican candidaty m h nd ben carsonhere nck an neck, but over nationally you have the highest favorle rating. why aren't you higher? >> ain, i think it goes back to the facthere are now 11 peopleruing forsidef the utestat run cpevecamigns. i mean, theatens. th areors, orconies, ser o an fo senator r sa dhey' camignig hard. so ve goter have a lotd of choices.

feel pretty goodout oss. >> te qsti lot of yr donors, wre do u-- iing forride of th it stas. >>utouewin entuly we wil.hewwiwe win helegates tn ybody elu morthahadmfideoi t ietha i don t you're going to realarity ohis ra until tce naow a litt t. >hat's aood nhtor you tomorrow? >> we want as many vos ase can. feel rea positive about wit gog leto. xpeiame f wways we we annddo in io other le have a lot me people onhe groere, they enmore money, but we' g to ha aood nigt. i'm excitbout it. >> senor rubio, beafe onhe trail. i thinke'll see you in new hampshire as well. when we come back, areowa democrats ready to vote for a 74-yr-old socialis who'sot ev a registered memf the raic ? we' t out.

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ke orreak dependingf he pull--but it's uniting engelicals. >> iis. you touched on it i that interview ted cruz es arou in all of these campaign sts and say we nef re g to vote f carson,ice guy,but please don't.it goes on, mike huckabee and all these folks. you actually add the numbers up, ted cruz runs away here in io with it. the proem is is that not only does he have to contend witthe ct others will vote for carson and huckabee and others,donald truisaking 19% as we t latest poll of evangelicals which i know ishocking for folks. >> 're ying to g a fof who the trump people e, cruz people, we've pu compiln torgtgetr of t vors i've okento. >> i'r ted cruz because our count was founded on the bib and the constution. >> ged tedruz in tre, they're going to startetting in line and dog watweee to get done

marco rubio. >>ter: howfeel dald um wah hisshow. but dot know-- i'm afraid of what he mightdo once he'snoice. >> reporter: why areyou caucusinfor trump? >because's ing to make amica great ain. >> i think everyby's a little bit afraid. ericans are afraid, the world is afraid. >> i hopee's tou on legal migrationike he says. >> i believe hean keep our country fe. >> he is not politicly correct. an i amne with that. > reporter:woul y be ucing if he wasn't running? >> probably not. i've v caucused bore. >> reporong you livein iow >> 4 ears. >> theret is. buflo bll hat guy there, has liveereol and h nev u d he's a d tru that's who donald trumpneds to sw up. are they going to show up? >> well, younever know. it's interting to me that ted cz h all the high ints in this des moin registerloomberg politics poll. everybody likes him betterhan donald trup. they think he has thereatest

expernce. but donalump ishe guy that they think would beestto fight the u.s. enemies. and th's abig deal in this race. , youknow, eveone says that donald trump's organization is suspect. but people really have faith in hiright no. >> a i think you can see, too doald trumao has the mst loyalcker y athepling, he's got theost ncngeabl voters. they are sticking with hi tht's y i thin you're seeing more intramural fighting partiularlyetween cruz and rubio because rubio's are among the least adhent. so i thkhat youre seeing with ted cruz is he's tryingto n only ta away the ben carson supporters but als go after the rubio supporters f whom he's actually the number oneendch>>t's st p erablatin jefer's poll e. e desoine regi. the two mostolapeople, replicans,are the guys running third d fourth, ben cars and marcoru thefirst is lea favorable of o topfour,trp. itgoes to the point, it's loyalty but not growth.

republican party and within differentortions of the repuic pty. i ally tnk that a b piece of what dold u soing for is celebry culture that we live in in america. and he is everywhere and comes in with that big arplane and people sayi'd like to have a little piece of that. here's a guy runningtrongly amo evangelicals married three tes, he had affairs around the world other people, he went broka couple of times. ey bore rght thh th. playin a dffen ballpk yea >> well,t ao nt. i u thi ere's a ge bloof engical voters that are the sickndir evangelical voter, tis election pecificall those folks are ruling the day. you know, evangelicals are sick of being played as political pawns for years. i an, look athe federal marriageamendment in 2004, if n go backn hio but george. campan that, ld evanlicalstoet out at the polls and rove dropped it like a hot poto. they believe dond trump will stick up for them. >> david, plain this, weere talking about this earlier.

evangelical voter that's for trump than -- isit different -- elain the difference. you were telng mehere's a iffence beten the trump evangelical and he cruz evan evangelical evgelica >> there is. there's a nuance there. first ofll we know evangelicalare not a monolithic oup. >> of course not >> but lot are identified evangelicals. i'mnot tryin to get on yone's case, if you will, but look, th reality is is that the's a certain type of evangelical that votes for donald trump, aile bit mre of a cultural christian if y will. but then there is the bie study, wednesday night service, you know, t onhat you're going to at thepotluck on sunday, that's the ted cr lks. >> that's your cruz. >> thoe are the cruz folks.t oolis donald trump istill plange wieveso of tse fol t g o we s crossi intboth realms. l w tom. >> you ha t ke trk of who loses here.

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>> probably too much establishment or mething. >> bernie tal abou the big s. and shs takgoney them. >> i thk thatat the end o the dayhene's sitting wn thiing abohat he g to do, heinelyres about me > w sanys bese with the gun laake nse. >> yes,you didn't mishear. tht youngman is undecided bween bernie sanders a ted cru only in iowa. you catmake that up. t was interesting there is you get taste from the voters that the is the mocrat a is tking ab-- democratic ters ining abo can get b ne, theemso ar pers en the soidsm wiheerniefs.t y pllotallyfferent oryonisideaofenthusiasm. berniender talks about hispeop are more enthuseastthusiastilook whyouroll has. u have clinton peoe wi m enthusiasm. >> is . they her bt r her strh and preparedss. t is ue.

has the empathy and vision, however the convential wisdom he has mo enthusiasm not true. our pollowshathe is winning on who would you be more enthusiastias the nomee, she wi. anespecially on the very enthusiastic, hich is that reall st, strong passion. he gets 53% saying the will be veryenthusiaic abouther, only 49 for him. >> oy, theis nothing in this poll tt indicat sanrs is going towin unless tse first-time cauc goe search >> the metcs for her are certainly better gng into the caucu but i thi the reason you're seeing the bigger turnout and the more visible pason for bernie sanders, hisandicy rell rresents the two b sappointnts of the ogressiv ing, the most liberal wing of the democratic party haveto do with number one, no prosecutio owa reetanrs after the grea ress nd number two, the fcthat ere was noblic option or univsal heth care i terms of like a medicare for al those two pockets of ristance to the obama year are dring

's driven an anger barack obama. but the challenge is you're running essentially to succeed the democratic president. so if you're saying weed to repudiate the adnistration's policies on bankers and on lth ce, what you repudiating baracobama. it becomes very difficult t get rack obama supporterso support you. >> theguy with th 90% favorableating higher than both those current docrats running. >> well, what's been missing frthe democratic s however what is the international poly? what are they goin to do about i we're in a war. andthere' benmostno iscuioonhe doctic se. id bnie nderthe day, t landscap arly d havan eaow wouldeal with what's goi on in he mile east. it's almost all at this point very domestic. and so in the iowa caucuses tomorrow night,emocrac caucuses, w'll hav three candidates and then the fbi investigatn. >> wl, u bring up -mlsicanxct the eailsto rightvid?

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he went right at her. >> but hesitancy i ink becauseof that same sue. r democratshis is not a chng election. thisis 1998, tis the atteto continue the obama legacy and protect it. hillary clinton has a much easier argument to make wrapping her arms around th prestaying i will protect his legacy,bernas t i wa to funmentally change overtrn oma legacies. >> ty fire ba really hard saying he's aying dir and romiset t camp netively and h of stepped bac again. >> berni sander reminds me a little of ho dan2 yrs go. >> uh-oh. >> we' out ofome on ts pr o sunday morning,m, e, roge smoa l hoard dean's g o pu it oops thehe's third. d a dista third at that so there was enormous amount of excitement arondthat matches bernieders. i talked tonother gentleman t. pleasant wlo said i think

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