hello and welcome to mosaic. my name is tom burke. i have my marching orders here we have eva to take us down the pro life road. eva is a founder of west coast road, january 22 and vicki, cpa by day and director for archdiocese by night. it is almost like you get into telephone booths and come out a super hero everyone knows who you are and loves you for the great work you do. let's talk about the walk for

life in its 7th year, and you are expecting 35, 40,000 people. you cause traffic jams. >> oh, my god that is an under statement. the police love us. actually they do love us we are very supportive and very -- we obey the rules but yes, no, we are expecting to be larger this is our 7th year like you said we started in the first year 7500 people which was a shock to us even back then but every year southerly we have grown -- subtly we have grown. we never know for sure, but probably around 35,000 people and if registrations of buses continue at the pace they are this year looks like we will have more people. >> find out about it at www.walk for life. >> wc.com. walk for life wc.com and all the information is on there,

the time, speakers, what will happen, great footage of past events if you want to get a feel for what is going to happen you can do that. >> what have you learned through the years doing this kind of thing? the one thing i have always thought about is disneyland. they always keep you moving you know, they have everything figured out so what have you learned about a big event like this? what has made it better and flow and made it work for you? >> well, it has become routine and we are very happy about that, because one of the main things that i love about it people have made it their own. there are so many people in different cities around california, even in reno, that you know i am shipping off constantly hundreds of flyers they are out there making it their own distributing the flyers, talking about it in their parishes, getting buses together to come. what i love is promotion part, the first couple years i really

had to do a lot. i work at ignatious press i work in marketing to always promoting promoting but we haven't had to do as much in the last couple years because people have made it their own that is a huge satisfaction that people love the event that much and they are looking forward to it and want all their friends and family to come. >> everybody there wants to be there. >> that's right. >> www.walk for life wc.com walk for life wc.com. i will put you on the spot. >> okay. >> tell us a story about someone who comes from afar someone who has taken this under their wing. >> i will tell you a story. this year for the first time has been a young lady who comes with her family from san diego. >> san bernardino.

>> okay. sorry. she single handedly decided to go out and do fundraising and did everything on her own right after the walk to do a youth rally. they rented the whole building, but the whole building. >> yes,. >> so there you go. she was -- she felt so inspired by the walk to make it even more special for young people they will have their own speakers and food vendors, that will be right there at the end of the walk people can finish the walk and walk right into the youth rally it is free people can just come and show up and go there. so that is a huge success story for us because some body was that inspired by the walk they wanted to prolong the feel. >> and that demographic, the younger people some people get the idea this is a fogey thing but not at all. >> not at all go to our website there is a video you can see

the crowds and the majority of the crowd are young people and we are so proud. >> www.walk for life wc.com. what kind of success do you think you have had? pushing against the not so pro life. >> it is such hard work for us, that there are times you just ah there is so much to do but it is because of these successes and the feedback we hear from people everybody who comes says i am coming next year and bringing my family and friendment they feel such comradery and empowered to do the pro life work it is so inspiring obviously we just keep plugging along. walk for life wc.com. eva mountain vicki evans talking about life we will be back ,,,,,,

my name is tom burke we are talking about pro life people, eva fountain. she is the founder of www.walk for life wc.com. >> vicki evans, cpa by day you drop the pencil by night and director of pro life activities for archdiocese san francisco. my marching orders gives us all turns but we want to talk to you both about this but i want to focus with vicki now on a film called eggsploitation. there is nothing over easy

about it it is ovarian and how young women are making their eggs available for money. >> well, in a industry around for a long time but lacks hardly any regulation, we are finding that a lot of young women, especially ages 21-29 are being solicited to sell their eggs to couples involved in invitro fertilization. >> it is not something you just show up at a doctors office and do you have to be prepared i have heard it compared to, i don't mean to be gory but compared to the drug processes young women under go, comparable to the way they over feed geese to fatten them up. >> that is a terrible analogy but the truth is the women have to take massive doses of hormones in order to hyper stimulate their ovaries to produce more than the normal one or two eggs produced every

month in a normal cycle so the hyper stimulation of the ovaries some times can cause as many as a couple dozen eggs in one case a woman produced 50 or 60 eggs, and these are then surgically extracted and the film exploitation we have been showing -- >> how long is the process from when they start the drugs to when the eggs are harvested? >> takes several months they have to take the drugs and then they have to -- the follicles are produced within their bodies then there is a surgical procedure that is supposedly minor but can have some very real repercussions. >> they get paid big dough for it making it such an incentive some up to $100,000. >> depending they go on college campuses and any where up to $100,000 you are right these are women who are tall,

beautiful, blond, high sat scores and these are the type of women people want to father their children. >> copies of the film are located at eggs ploitation.com. >> today, a fertility industry in america, is an approximately $6.5 billion a year enterprise. operating with little regulation or oversight. almost 70% of assisted reproduction technology cycles fail only a small percentage resulting in live birth yet the risks associated to cause super ovulation are real the egg donor is unique she is not infertile she is not sick yet she i assumes all these risks to help someone else. there are three stages prior to a surgery to collect the eggs

at each stage the woman takes drugs to artificially coordinate the procedure. first synthetic hormones are self-injected by the woman to induce menopause stopping ovarian function allowing the physician to control maturation and release of eggs. >> i talked to a nurse on the phone she told me how to give the injections the medicine arrived on my door step ups. i got squeamish about it and asked my boyfriend to give me the shots. >> the woman is match rated. >> even the concept you are obligated to follow the exact dosing and protocol everything that happened to me was a chain of events where medical risks were not taken into account and they didn't look at the data objectively they just kept pushing me on. >> then third the woman takes a

final injection to release from the ovaries the mature eggs which will be extracted during a final surgical procedure. >> i had an ultrasound which showed i had 50 to 60 follicles growing then i questioned should i be taking less of the medication i was told you have to continue the medication we give you at the dose we give you they did some blood work to make sure the eggs were ready i got an e-mail, from a nurse that said, one of your hormone levels is much much higher than we expected we need to test you again so i was expecting some concern at that time regarding whether or not i should you know, continue or they should reduce the amount of medication they give me but the answer was no we can't stop at this stage we can't jeopardize the follicles just continue doing what you are doing we will just

keep watching. ♪ [ music ] >> short term risks of egg donation include those with anaethesia and those with taking the hormones to cause super ovulation. the most serious risk is ovarian hyper stimulation syndrome. >> it is the wall of the ovary being put into hyper drive producing a lot of eggs and when you do that to a person's

body, it also produces other changes in the body which can no some people have the risk of death. >> in june 2009, new york state became the first in the united states to offer compensation to young women who donate their eggs for scientific research under this hotly debated legislation women could make up to $60,000 in exchange for their eggs. >> now i see a shift, all of a sudden we have money entering in, in terms of research and we see young women being looked at as a market for eggs. a woman has become a walking ovary you know, ovary factory, egg factory i think women should not be treated that way. >> why do you need more eggs? because we need more. as many as 100 eggs might be necessary to obtain one

embryonic stem cell line that was in the national academy of sciences the number of eggs to treat 20 million people in the united states alone with diabetes and if you use even just 10 eggs per patient you are talking about 200 million eggs.

welcome back to mosaic my name is tom burke. today we are speaking with pro life advocates, eva montaine and vicki evans they have a huge berth in the pro life world and the nation people know who you are.

we just saw a clip from the film eggs ploitation. women are being paid serious sums to increase their egg production through a chemical process then they are harvested, used invitro fertilization and stem cell research. put on your cpa hat they get huge sums, $60,000 the film said you said as high as $100,000 but it is a business you get a 1099 >> i don't know if you get one or not. >> jennifer said you do. >> i imagine you would. >> yeah, it is a business. >> what you just saw was 5 minutes of a 40 minute film called eggs ploitation this is a film we have been showing at different universities we will show it in the high schools we want these women to be on notice that this is not an easy procedure this isn't a simple

way for them to make a few bucks to pay college expenses. >> it is dangerous and will effect their whole life. >> maybe we want to talk for a second and go to walk for life but maybe we can talk about how this broadens the pro life effort, how it is moving away from simply abortion or just abortion. some people put the you know kind of tag it that way. this is a broader broader look at pro life and how things are going on that can help others besides the unborn. am i right or wrong? >> absolutely right on that. abortion whenever anyone hears pro life they thing abortion but however when talking about embryo research and extracting stem cells from embryos that is killing an embryo the same as an abortion so you are just taking the abortion back to an earlier stage than when the baby is in the womb. and you know, pro life also takes in everything at the end

of life too. just the weak and vulnerable and those without voices and those are the people we are trying to speak for. >> let's talk with eva let's talk to you both you are both involved in walk for life. >> we have known each other a long time. >> walk for life west coast wc.com. tell us about it we will take a break and come back again tell us more. give us another story because here we saw we had testimony from women who had under gone this procedure in this film you have testimony from people. >> very important. >> who have suffered so the personal testimony means what a as opposed today at that. >> for our walk every single year from year one we have made sure every single rally had at least one or two personal testimony's of women who had gone through abortion and what that has done to their lives their families lives their communities lives because it does effect everyone around

them. so any way, testimonies are very important as we saw in the clip it makes all the difference in the world when you put a face to the problem. >> we are very grateful for your testimonies here today and work you do vicki how can people reach you at the archdiocese we will come back but quickly. >> www.ff life and justice.org. >> don't forget eggs ploitation.com. we are coming back

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welcome back to mosaic. i am to be burke we are speaking with eva montain and vicki evans. we wanted to talk before we get

too far out to have loop we just have a little bit of time left there is a way for people to get involved. and it is called catholic legislative network. vicki can you tell us a bit about that pretty quick? >> yes the california catholic conference of bishops put together the legislative network so that everyone out there can be notified when there are important pro life issues about life and dignity coming up either in the california legislature or at the federal government level and it is a matter of getting everyone's e-mail address and sending them bullet news when there is something of importance that comes up. >> there is a way to register. >> go to california catholic website ca catholic.org and register there for the weekly bulletins and also special bull tens. >> so -- bulletins. >> so it is a pro life church google alert.

>> right sort of is but we know that if we can get everyone together we will have a very large voice in the legislative process you know more than one or two people would sending e- mails. >> you have a big push this year in archdiocese san francisco and people responded. >> yes, in september we had life and dignity sunday and asked parishes sign up people i don't know what the numbers were in san francisco but statewide we got hundreds of thousands of people registered. >> okay and i want to ask each of you, we have a little time left, i want you to exhort us toward responding to this need in the pro life area, eva we start with you exhort us briefly what can we do? >> that is why we have the walk for life because when people come and get you know rejuvenated from walking and seeing all the people and talking to people they go back and form their own groups and clubs, it is very important you can't talk about this stuff unless you get involved. you can't put people down you

can't say how horrible things are if you can't pick up the phone, it is simple as having a meeting, in your house or making a couple phone calls or standing up for your faith or your life when the situation warrants, that is what we tried to do with the walk we stand up and say this is what we believe this is what is right join us. >> www.walk for life wc.com there is information to about the 24th interfaith. >> interfaith. >> right. >> on the 21st, the night before. >> and oakland walk there is also an oakland walk the night before. >> a lot of details. >> you are not the web master are you? >> i am. >> okay >> i am. >> exhort us briefly toward responding to this. >> we would love to have the people in the parishes get involved, we have life representatives some have them some don't some have little groups it is nice when we can get a little group in each

parish then there is support if we can do that then we can fan out across all the bay area and get information out. >> eva tell us in 10 seconds how does this help beyond the pregnant woman and unborn? >> it helps because the support is there for them if people know there is the need because that is a focus of the walk, women in need, and the fact there is help vailable out there. if we can get that out there, get people helping others especially those in need, crisis pregnancies, it would change the face of abortion. >> walk for life, january 22 here in san francisco expecting 35, 40,000 people. >> god willing. >> www.walk for life wc.com. >> i am expecting 50,000 people. >> they are all coming to your house afterwards thanks both of you for being here and thanks for joining us on mosaic maze remember all the wonderful

programs you heard today, walk for life west coast and executive ledge slay tiff. i am tom burke join us again. ,,