good morning welcome to mosaic. we are glad you joined us today we are talking about people in northern california. from the cattic perspective we will talk about catholics in general but certainly they have played a great role in northern california society we will talk with jeff burns he is head of archives francis can school of history. >> you teach at st. patricks seminary and have taught other places as well. >> francis can school of theology, berkeley. >> you are a historian of note. published i have a book here

that you edited. i want to talk with you a little bit about northern california and catholics in general. kevin star the popular arthur in california, described the archdiocese as a wonderful idea of its time. what do you thing he was talking about? why did the archdiocese of san francisco, when it came into being, why was it a good idea? >> at the time all you had in california was the 21 mission that is went up and down the coast but when the united states took over from mexico in 1848, we had to create an american church that was difficult to do. the thing that connects what he was talking about basically we are an immigrant church then we continue to be an immigrant church today. we are cosmopolitan, multicultural and multiethnic and face those issues today.

>> i want to get the ideas that connect the issues of the archdiocese life in northern california and immigrants as one when by sop wall may any came to california he found an eclectic group of people to be here the gold rush days. >> everybody throughout the world came for the gold rush and allameny was an immigrant himself he spoke five languages. my favorite story there were a lot of chinese in the bay area came over for the gold rush he wanted some body to minister to them, most were not catholics he got a priest from naples italy by way of china, father thomas chan to come and minister to the chinese people in the bay area and gold country he didn't speak the same dialect the chinese did in this area but had trained in

italy so was fluent in italian so he was appointed as pastor to the italian people in san francisco. two decades later an italian came and established the first chinese mission in san francisco he has the two working together and of course today to tie it to the present st. peters and paul the italian national parish is now the italian and chinese national parish. they have had that close connection from the start. >> history you know i was kidding you when i said i want to mention the word history because people nod off or turn away but i think it is such a rich topic, and it is so alive today and you are a historian tell me why we should look back. >> it is interesting my experience is the older people get the more they appreciate history younger people don't seem to have as much concern but i think it is really important in times of trouble

during the recession, during the various problems we have had in recent years it lifts you out of the present, history is the true liberal art because it freezes from the tier any of the pre-- tire any of the present. when we look back in history, there were challenges, scandals, the people pulled through and remained faithful to the church and the gospel it is a lesson to us to remain faithful to the church and gospel as well. >> when the church began it was a building parole seases the missions were in disrepair, people were -- the population was growing a great deal. the first task was create a church, a structure for the catholics. >> right he did a tremendous amount of building first thing here he prepared for a cathedral we had what is now old st. mary's cathedral and he

said we want something the people can look at and know we are here and we are a stable influence everything was transient you couldn't keep people in san francisco initially everyone was flying up to the gold country this is a statement we are here and going to make an impact. >> the church followed people to the gold country. >> that's right. >> some of the early churches are really far afield. >> that's right. >> certainly, you will talk further about the nuns role in history i remember seeing pictures of nuns in a wagon going out to grass valley. >> that's right. >> they were going out to the people in the fields. >> that is when the first nuns arrived there was nothing in the city of san francisco daughters of charity were one of the first orders, 1852. the mother superior her report back to the congregation in maryland she said this is a he is out here it is just even worse than we could have imagined it was a wild frontier

sort of area they were used to a more sedate life back in the east. these were young women mother russell was 24 years old when she came out to establish mercy work here. >> we h follow up on the sisters and other people in history in just a moment. we are mosaic. we will take a break and be back in a moment [thunder] did you buy the flashlight and the batteries?

yes. did you make sure we're not missing anything in the first aid kit? yup. did you go through the plan with the kids again? yes. announcer: the more you prepare today, the more you'll be able to reduce the devastating effects of a tornado, an earthquake, a power outage, or any other disaster. get a kit, make a plan, be informed. visit ready.gov. welcome back to mosaic. we are talking this morning with dr. jeff burns his tory an and not only that, archivist for archdiocese of san francisco and also i might add a deacon in the church, in the diocese of oakland. doctor, deacon, jeff, welcome back to the program we were talking before about the people who really played sterling

roles in the development of the catholic church in san francisco. the archdiocese in san francisco, so many years encompassed of northern california. what was his role who succeeded allemany? >> he was a builder he came from chicago and did two major things he built st. patricks seminary which opened in 1898, he had tried to open a seminary he wanted a native clergy but had great difficulty getting an order of priests to run the seminary and then he built the new cathedral, down on gary and got dedicated in 1891. >> that is not there any more. >> no, it burned down in 1962 in a pretty dramatic fire leading to our beautiful new modern cathedral, dedicated in

1970/71. >> i was trying to figure out a way of organizing this, one of the ways that the largest events in the area was the 1906 earthquake. how does the church respond to that? >> the church was devastated by that earthquake. many of the churches were completely leveled particularly in the seminary, st. patricks, st. francis, they were completely destroyed the church did what a lot of others did they set up relief stations, a lot of charity work went out with them the sisters took care of -- st. mary's hospital was destroyed the sisters had to take all the patients they had bought land out where st. mary's hospital is now they transferred patients out there. there was a tremendous response to take care of those displaced by the earthquake. >> this was not a unique role.

the safety net of social services, very often relied on catholic entities. sisters in particular. >> yes. >> in the early days when there wasn't -- were they the first provider of services for is city? >> they took over the county hospital, the city wasn't paying them so they started their own hospital, st. mary's hospital but then they established all sorts of chartable agencies a home for the elderly, our ladies home in oakland now but originally in san francisco, employment bureaus, homes for working girls, magdalen asylums, the state was restricted what it did the daughters of charity, presentation sisters, san jose

dominicans, all sorts of sisters provided the work force that kept the safety net going. >> just as you can look around the city but out lying areas, the church steeples, catholic areas, are a benchmark but underneath was a lot of social services going on they didn't serve just catholics. >> no, catholic charities was open to whoever might need its service. it was initially the response was to catholics but then they didn't just limit it to that. the first acumen call sort of work if you needed help they provided help. >> education, just a minute about education, won't do enough, but the sisters role, catholic role in education was phenomenal,. >> right from the start they started catholic schools, two

learning, higher education we had what became santa clara college, 1851 and university of san francisco, st. ignatious, 1855 in our first six years we had two major institutions of learning then of course the grade schools and high schools which the sisters ran just a tremendous infrastructure built for the church. >> the amazing thing is, if you stop to thing about it, history becomes alive when you drive down allemany boulevard or see a sign that says archbishop reardon high school, or san jose, san ramon, the presence of the catholic church in northern california for the good of all was phenomenal in the early years and today. >> if you remember when pope john paul the second was there he said we were blessed because we had saints names for so many things in california. >> that is a blessing we have

to take a break but i want to thank you jeff, in your role as historian, you are one of the few people i know who can really bring alive because you talk about people it is not just waves of thought or this and that but the people who really become part of life. >> mm-hmm. >> so we will take a break, mosaic here in a moment. when you join us come back in a moment we will be back shortly ,,,,,,,,

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and archivist, san francisco. i will hold up this book, this is essays published 2003 an eclectic collection of essays published in the archdiocese san francisco that year it gives a more in depth look at what we are talking about this morning. we have experienced a recession, this year, and wanted to talk about the last historical depression, and archbishop hanna what was his role in the 1930s. >> he became archbishop 1915 and the most beloved of all the san francisco archbishops people just loved him as a person. of course now it is archbishop needer hauer but before that it was archbishop hanna he is very

good with the people part of what he did is similar to roosevelt, he lifted the spirits of the people as sure them even though these were difficult times he would be there with them. he served on the state committee for unemployment and so forth but this last major act was he served as a arbitrator in the great general strike 1934 which the long shore men had gone out on strike and shut down the city of san francisco for a series of several days he was so trusted by the employeeworkers he was a key figure bringing that crisis to a close. >> he was prominent 1924, the march in san francisco one of my favorite stories. >> yeah, in the early 1920s the ku klux klan made a revival in the united states and of course they had expanded their hate red to include catholics in 1924 they had a major march down pennsylvania avenue,

washington dc robes and all and the catholic church responded holding counter rallies when archbishop hanna was coming back from rome they said we will have a huge parade in honor of his return but it was to make a statement against the ku klux klan there was a march of over 80,000 people on a day that was raining, down to the market street to the civic center and then an outdoor mass at the civic center the former governor of illinois give an address on catholic citizenship and argue we were good citizens despite the fact we were catholics one of my favorite editorials for the day said it was a great day and none of the marchers wore masks it was clear what they were trying to do. archbishop hanna presided over that. >> and archbishop minipreceded anna. >> he was a great administrator, great money man had a great ability to purchase

real estate, there is stories about him i don't know if they are true or not that he would go down the peninsula and see plots of land and say buy that land. so the concept he had was he bought a lot of land but provided a stake for a parish that would be established later on he had to know the demographic trends where they would need a parish where it would develop. he was a great administrator centralized the administrative offices for the archdiocese and made financial arrangement a lot tighter and more efficient. >> he had great foresight, just pope pius the 9th had foresight in terms of maybe looking forward, this is going to be a growing area and midi had foresight to carry it into the

21st century. we will get to the set up of the archdiocese, by 1962, catholic population had risen such a degree and more administrative units were needed to get the church closer to the people and the archdiocese split off what diocese were formed in 62. >> stockton, santa rosa and oakland were brokennen off and the county of solano was give to sacramento. at the time it was 13 counties a wide ranging archdiocese including rural and urban areas. they split it apart into those four separate diocese. >> and at that point in time, probably a larger population than it did 20 years earlier. >> yeah. >> we will come back we will take a break on mosaic we are talking with dr. jeff burns, we will be back in a moment. thank you for joining us ,,,,

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welcome back to mosaic. we are talking with dr. jeff burns about people in history. we will look at some of those pictures now just a quick roll through a dozen photographs of moments in the history of the archdiocese of san francisco which included all of california. >> father peyton 1961 rosary crusade more than half a million catholics got together to pray the rosary at golden gate park. the largest gathering of catholics at that point. peter york, one of the dominant priests of his era he was the great priest who lead the 1901 teamsters strike and put the church on the side of labor. here is the holy name parade we talked about archbishop hanna

there with mayor ross standing in front of city hall after the mass you can see it was raining on that day. >> this is an earthquake picture, if you see way down there, that is actually i think st. peters and pauls or st. francis down at the end of the street destroyed by the fire and earthquake. that is old st. mary's the church that was built by archbishop allemeny 1854 dedicated chris mat eve 1854. >> it is of course the pope john paul the second who is rugging the little boy who was -- had aids and that was during the papal visit 1987, great moment, the pope embraced the boy and the world at the same time. >> that is st. mary's cathedral built by reardon destroyed by fire in 1962 and that is the fire blazing away.

there is the destruction, the wrecking ball to destroy the old st. mary's cathedral and prepare the way for the new one. >> that is bishop james oh todd he died tragically add a young age and it was one of the most sad moments in the history of the archdiocese. >> this is the blessing of the bay bridge, the cardinal later becomes pope pious the 12th, that is midi next the him and cardinal spellman of new york next to him. can jubilee celebration in 2000 the first major event at pack bell park former pacbell park great event for the archdiocese. >> and that is bishop sheen the great catholic preacher and

later on tv star addressing theunited nations opening 1945 there he is speaking on elements of peace. >> the 1906 earthquake picture reminds me of the 1987 earthquake not quite the same destruction but certainly number of catholic churches among with other buildings, other churches, other commercial buildings were destroyed and after that, some churches were closed and more movement took place but certainly even today in san francisco 50 churches, some great treasures of history, old st. mary's st. dominics, bush street, st. patricks on mission street, looking around history is still with us, the ideas of the archdiocese are they still with us?

the catholic ideas? >> basic ideas don't change much, the service to the people trying to follow in the steps of jesus living out the gospel people who arrived in the early days struggled with that that remeans our challenge how do we live out the gospel. history teaches you can be inspired by people in the past who give us examples how to live the gospel how the live holiness in the book i tell the story of lucian soona a mexican priest came up and worked with the native american populations and lived like them and thought to be crazy as a result. >> great stories i urge you to call or e-mail for the book, proclaiming the good news for all creation thank you for joining us on mosaic thank you doctor for joining us. join us on mosaic next week for a catholic respective. have a great day, god bless you

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