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these pictures were taken just hours before he was executed, right in this room. the executioner-- this child, his son. his ten-year-old son. but if you find this image disturbing, consider this one taken two weeks earlier... >> zeig heil! >> stahl: ...a neo-nazi rally on the streets of trenton, new jersey. >> hall: who's streets? >> our streets! >> hall: who's streets? >> our streets! >> hall: who's streets? >> our streets! >> hall: zeig heil! >> stahl: jeff hall was a rising star in the largest neo-nazi group in the country, the national socialist movement or nsm. >> zeig heil! >> stahl: the numbers nationwide are still small-- 500 members, tops-- but they're growing. >> hall: this isn't dress-up, this isn't a game. we are fighting for our children's future. >> stahl: according to jeff hall and the nsm, that future would be an all-white, non-semitic america. >> hall: there's other groups i could join. there's tons of them! >> stahl: jeff hall joined only three years ago, but seen as

personable and charismatic, he quickly became the leader of the nsm in california, arizona, utah, and nevada. >> hall: zeig heil! >> zeig heil! zeig heil! >> stahl: this footage was shot by julie platner, a filmmaker and photographer who was able to gain the nsm's trust... >> how you doing, miss julie? >> stahl: ...and enter their closed world of private meetings. >> hall: julie has me mic'ed. >> stahl: she quickly honed in on jeff hall. >> hall: jeff. nice to meet you >> stahl: jeff hall cultivated a sense of family among his new recruits... ( clapping ) >> hall: yeah. we did good. >> stahl: ...holding his monthly meetings at his house, with the kids around, including his son joseph. these gatherings were a strange mix of nazi propaganda... >> hall: that's how we apply what we learn from "mein kampf." >> stahl: ...and party games. >> happy birthday! >> stahl: a birthday celebration topped off by... >> zeig heil! >> stahl: jeff's mother, joann

patterson, went to some of her son's meetings, despite abhorring her son's politics. >> joann patterson: i wanted to make sure it was okay for my grandkids to be there. and i had a great time. it looked like any barbecue in any backyard in america. the food was great... >> stahl: but they were nazis. we're just sitting here talking about nazis. >> patterson: i know, it's crazy. >> stahl: they're in your own family. >> patterson: i know, it's crazy, huh? >> stahl: "my son became a nazi." >> patterson: yeah, a nazi leader. ( laughs ) >> stahl: on saturday, april 30, her son jeff held what would be his last get-together. nothing seemed out of the ordinary, to the extent this is ordinary. ten-year-old joseph was running in and out of the house. >> joseph hall: i'm going outside. >> stahl: all the kids were. dad even took some of them to see his nazi glow-in-the-dark t- shirt with its ss insignia. >> wow! >> jeff hall: it's the little things in life.

>> stahl: this is the last recorded image of jeff hall alive. after people left that night, the family watched a movie, "yogi bear," as jeff slept on the couch. the others went upstairs to bed. then, at 4:02 a.m... >> 9-1-1 emergency. >> krista hall: my son shot my husband! i need an ambulance. he's bleeding! >> how old is your son? >> krista hall: ten. >> how old is your son? >> krista hall: ten. oh, god! >> stahl: you were the first detective at the scene after the murder, is that correct? >> greg rowe: that's correct. >> stahl: detective greg rowe saw jeff hall dead on the couch. he says little joseph, who was found hiding upstairs under his covers, described calmly how he had gotten the family's rossi .357 magnum from his dad's closet... >> rowe: ...went downstairs and shot his dad. he described how he used his forefingers to cock the gun, and used two fingers to pull the trigger, and he pointed it at his ear.

>> stahl: this was not a case of a kid thinking it was a toy and letting it go off by accident? >> rowe: there's no evidence this was anything but intentional. >> stahl: prosecutor michael soccio. >> michael soccio: when he was taken into juvenile hall, he's so little, they didn't have shoes to fit him. so they had to go out and buy him a little pair of tennis shoes. and he asked if he'd be able to keep the shoes when he left, which showed an absolute lack of understanding of what was going to be happening. >> stahl: the department of justice reports only nine cases of a ten-year-old killing a parent since 1980. but then, how many american kids are raised by a nazi? when you heard that the victim was the head of the local nazi organization, did you just think to yourself that that had something to do with it? >> soccio: when i first heard it, i thought there's got to be some connection with nazi views, with guns, with weapons, with violence. >> stahl: hate speech. >> soccio: hate speech, sure. >> stahl: that was just about everyone's assumption. so we set out to discover why

jeff hall became a nazi three years ago. >> patterson: i think the biggest factor that contributed was the economy. when the housing market just fell apart in california, he had no work. he hadn't worked for three years. >> stahl: he was in construction? >> patterson: he was in construction. >> stahl: and that side of the economy just completely dried up? >> patterson: completely dried up. and he tried and tried and tried to get work. it's just scary. poverty is a really scary thing. >> stahl: jeff lived in the "inland empire," a vast stretch of california desert east of l.a. it was among the worst hit when the real estate market crashed, ranking fifth in foreclosures nationwide. entire communities became ghost towns. unemployment reached 15%. jeff was poor and angry, with time on his hands, when he came upon jeff schoep, commander of the national socialist movement. >> jeff schoep: you have illegal aliens coming over the border,

streaming over in hordes, taking american jobs. >> stahl: neo-nazis focus their tirades lately on immigrants and the so-called "browning of america," where places like california no longer have a white majority. >> schoep: we're a white civil rights organization. >> stahl: what does that mean? >> schoep: basically, what jesse jackson and al sharpton do for the black people is what we do for white people. >> stahl: well, not exactly. i read to commander jeff schoep this from the nsm's web site: "all non-whites should leave this nation peacefully or by force." >> schoep: our ideal america would be an america that's all- white. that doesn't mean... >> stahl: yeah. and everybody else has to leave, "peacefully or by force." wow. >> schoep: our goal is a white homeland. >> stahl: i mean, the president's not white; our attorney general's not white. so they should leave. what about jews? >> schoep: they're also a race of people. >> stahl: so they should leave?

>> schoep: correct. >> stahl: he knows that won't happen anytime soon, but he's preparing. ten white supremacists of various groups were on the ballot in 2010, including three for congress. one candidate seeking local office was jeff hall. >> schoep: jeff hall ran for elections in california and took in almost 30% of the vote as an open national socialist. ( applause ) >> jeff hall: it was a good run, it was a great run. >> stahl: beside that unsuccessful run for local water board, jeff organized patrols at the mexican border, just a short drive from his home. they would show up fully armed, with night-vision equipment, and round up migrants as they crossed into the u.s. two weeks before his death, jeff bragged about taking his young son with him on patrol.

>> jeff hall: my son was able to operate a gen-1 night vision and the infrared scope. at the age of nine, my son's out at the border. >> zeig heil! zeig heil! zeig heil! >> stahl: so, was being exposed to all that hate and talk of violence the reason joseph murdered his dad? >> jeff hall: you got to get your glocks cocked and get ready to rock and roll at the border. that's how we do it. >> stahl: the more we looked, the more we realized it wasn't that cut and dry. >> megan hall: there might have been some things that we didn't know about jeff, that we didn't... we wouldn't have liked. >> stahl: megan hall, jeff's sister, says she hated her brother's politics, but had always seen him as a model father. >> megan hall: he was an amazing father and would do anything for his kids. and, you know, my nephew would just look at him like he was his hero. >> stahl: but in the last couple of years, the hero changed, darkened. whether it was the power of being a nazi leader, or the powerlessness of being unemployed, he drank more, she says, and was prone to striking out at his son and his wife, krista.

>> megan hall: my brother had shown a different side to him. not all of the time-- it was on random occasions, not predictable. >> stahl: he was beating up both joe and krista, is what we heard. is that what you've been told? >> megan hall: yeah. >> stahl: young joseph told police that he decided to kill his dad to "end the son versus father thing." did he describe what the abuse entailed? >> rowe: he described his father hitting him, kicking him, pushing him. >> soccio: he found himself in a situation, or believed he was in a situation, that required some type of desperate act. what's unusual about joseph hall is that his solution to it was to kill. most children don't think about, "what i'll need to do here is kill my father." >> stahl: as the police began to dig, they discovered that little joseph was a volatile and violent child, who had been kicked out of several schools for attacking students and

staff, once nearly choking a teacher with a phone cord. >> patterson: my grandson was who he was from the time he was born. >> stahl: what do you mean? >> patterson: he has absolutely no understanding of cause and effect. >> stahl: it is so rare that a ten-year-old would kill a father. >> patterson: well, but... you know, i wasn't surprised by it. i just somehow felt it could always happen. but i thought it would be when he was older. >> stahl: would this have happened if jeff had not become a nazi? >> patterson: i think so. probably later. joe was still joe, and they weren't having a lot of luck figuring out exactly what his problems were or how to deal successfully with them. >> stahl: little joseph also had a history of starting fires. does he raise the question of whether a killer can be

preprogrammed? >> soccio: i think he had everything physically in place that it didn't take much to bring him right along to thinking that murder's appropriate. >> stahl: so he was born the match, and that environment and that home lit the match. is that a fair way to say it? >> soccio: i think it's a very fair way to say it. >> stahl: jeff's mother got custody of his four little girls, because his wife pled guilty to leaving a loaded gun in the house. and every week, joann visits her son's young killer in juvenile hall. >> patterson: it's a struggle every minute of my life. because my son was murdered and i want justice for him... >> stahl: yeah. >> patterson: ...but only at the ex... that only happens at the expense of my grandson. >> stahl: what about politics with these children? do you feel any obligation to teach them about nazis? >> patterson: they're being

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well advised to book your reservations now. the new musical is from trey parker and matt stone, the creators of "south park," a show that changed the face of cable tv and is currently celebrating its 15th season. now, they are working their magic on the great white way with another outrageous satire. and it is not their first musical-- the "south park" movie included the oscar-nominated song "blame canada." now, they are the toast of broadway. this has been the scene outside the eugene o'neil theater since march, as people line up for "the book of mormon," the hottest ticket on broadway. it has already grossed $32 million, is sold out for the next five months, and probably will be for years to come. and that is music to the ears of its two creators-- trey parker, on the left, and matt stone, on the right. were you surprised it's been so successful? >> trey parker: yeah. i mean, we thought it was good. we thought the songs were really

good, but we didn't think it was going to like this. ( laughter ) >> elder price: ♪ hello. my name is elder price... >> kroft: the musical is not just a satire of clean-cut, earnest mormons with unorthodox beliefs. it's a playful send-up of all organized religion. >> elder young: ♪ hello. my name is elder young... ♪ hello. ♪ did you know that jesus lived here in the u.s.a.? >> kroft: it's the story of two mismatched missionaries, played by andrew rannels and josh gad, who are sent to africa to proselytize to pagans who have heard similar spiels before with no meaningful results. >> in this part of africa, we all have a saying. whenever something bad happens, we just throw our hands to the sky and say, hasa diga eebowai. >> josh gad: does it mean "no worries for the rest of our days"? ( laughter ) >> kind of.

♪ we've had no food for several days >> ♪ hasa diga eebowai ♪ and 80% of us have aids. hasa diga eebowai... ♪ hasa diga eebowai hasa diga eebowai... >> kroft: what the mormons don't know, but soon will find out, is that the locals are flipping the finger at their heavenly father. >> f.u. to heavenly father? holy moly, i said it, like, 13 times! >> kroft: it is rude, crude, lewd, and blasphemous. but it hasn't kept critics from proclaiming "the book of mormon" the best broadway musical in a decade, or stop it from racking up nine tony awards. and for theater-going fans of trey parker and matt stone, it's exactly what they wanted and expected from the creators of "south park." >> matt stone: a lot of the stuff, the subject matter we've tackled, the way we found ourselves there is simply by

trying to do something that no one else has touched. and so, it's like, "there's a reason why people haven't touched that." and we're like, "oh, really? because we want to do jokes other people haven't done, you know." >> kroft: are there lines that you won't cross? >> stone: no. i don't... yeah, we haven't found one yet. >> kroft: they are barely 40, and have already been collaborating for 20 years. they met in film class at the university of colorado and were partnered up to work on a project, quickly discovering that they shared a love of monty python and a subversive sense of humor. what were you like back then? >> parker: really cool. ( laughter ) just amazingly cool. >> stone: most popular guys at c.u. >> kroft: do you remember what the attraction was? >> parker: i just remember our senses of humor were just so similar that we would just really crack each other up, and it got to the... it got really annoying for everyone else in film school. >> stone: "watch out for that bear trap." "what?" >> kroft: at ages 19 and 20, they raised $100,000 to make a movie about colorado prospector named alfred packer, who was forced to dine on his colleagues

while snowbound in the mountains. "cannibal: the musical" was rejected by the sundance film festival, but parker and stone went anyway and held guerilla screenings in a hotel conference room. did the film get released? >> stone: uh-huh. sort of. >> parker: basically, on video. >> stone: yeah, i guess that's... i guess that's what you could call it, a "release." >> kroft: i can, like, buy it on amazon.com? >> stone: yeah. i bet you can. >> parker: you might not want to pay more than a dollar for it, but... >> stone: you may not like the price. ( laughter ) >> kroft: they moved to hollywood and spent three whole years as starving young artists, until a studio executive gave them $1,200 and asked them to make a video christmas card that he could send to his friends. >> stone: we went back to colorado, and we spent three or four weeks cutting out construction paper, and we did this little thing called "the spirit of christmas." >> behold my glory. >> holy ( bleep ), it's jesus. >> kroft: the primitive five- minute cartoon featured an epic battle between jesus and santa claus over control of the holiday, as witnessed by a group

of young boys that would eventually become the "south park" kids. >> help me put an end to him once and for all. >> no boys, help me. stan, remember the choo-choo when you were three? >> i died for your sins, boys. don't forget that. >> kroft: the video became an underground sensation. bootleg copies circulated all over the country, and ended up in the vcr machines of entertainment executives in l.a., new york and london. >> parker: that became so huge. i mean, it really was so viral, before youtube and all that. all of a sudden, people wanted to meet us more. and we got meetings everywhere, all of a sudden, and people were like, "okay, what do you want to do?" >> kroft: they eventually signed a contract to produce six episodes of a cartoon show based on "the spirit of christmas" for a fledgling cable network called comedy central. the show was named "south park" after a real place in a remote stretch of colorado, where trey parker says strange things always seemed to happen. >> parker: south park was where

everyone growing up, all the stories would come where, like, "oh, did hear they found another ufo?" ( laughter ) "there's been all these cattle mutilations." it was like, "where?" "south park." >> kroft: their version of south park would become a creative petri dish to examine and parody all the truly weird things going on in the adult world of america, as seen through the eyes of four elementary school boys who try to make sense of it all. >> parker: we used to talk about "all in the family," and we were big fans of "all in the family". in the time of the early '90s, we were kind of sitting there going, "you know, a show like that couldn't be on the air right now. you couldn't do it," because things are so p.c. you couldn't have an archie bunker. and we used to talk about how, you know, "if archie bunker was eight years old, i bet you could do it." >> by the way, children, there's a walkout scheduled today to protest the war in iraq. so if you're against the war, run along outside. and if you're for the war, stay here and we'll do math problems. >> yay! >> kroft: a common device is to

drop the kids in the middle of some explosive situation and surround them with extremes on all sides of an issue. >> oh, here you go, boys. these will help you protest. >> tom statsel, hbc news. can you tell me why you kids marched out of school today? >> um... war? >> hey, all you un-american bastards! if you don't like america, why don't you get out? >> kroft: the show regularly takes on race and bigotry. >> okay, the category is "people who annoy you." >> i know it but i don't think i should say it. >> kroft: in this episode, one of the boys' father makes an embarrassing appearance of "wheel of fortune." >> oh. "naggers." of course. >> kroft: and then there was this on the financial crisis. >> how can i help you, young man? >> i got a $100 check from my grandma, and my dad says i have to put it in the bank so it can grow over the years. >> well, that's fantastic. a really smart decision, young man. we can put that check in a money

market mutual fund. then, we'll reinvest the earnings in a foreign currency account with compounding interest... and... it's gone. >> uh, what? >> it's gone. it's all gone. >> what's all gone? >> the money in your account. it didn't do too well. it's gone. >> what do you mean? i have $100. >> not any more you don't. poof. >> kroft: it is worth reminding the uninitiated viewer that we are showing you sanitized scenes suitable for network television, not the cable, movie or dvd versions, in which the dialogue can be scatological as well philosophical, and every bit as profane as it profound. it is usually pitch-perfect to anyone who has spent any time around ten-year-olds aspiring to be adolescents. i bet if you eavesdropped on a bunch of fourth graders today, the language would be pretty close to what you hear on "south park." >> stone: i think we talked like this when i was in fourth and fifth grade. you know, you learned those bad words. you just know how to shut it off when the adults were around. >> parker: and it was like, "let's do a show where kids talk the way kids talk."

because, at the time, we were, you know, just out of college, like, we remember. >> stone: maybe that's it. we were young enough to remember. now, we're remembering remembering. >> kroft: perhaps the most remarkable thing about parker and stone is that, over the past 15 years, they have written, directed, and voiced the major characters in every scene of more than 200 episodes of "south park." >> stone: then why did you lie about not seeing clyde frog the night he died? >> parker: i know that i'm awesome and cool, polly prissy- pants. >> kroft: their typical week begins on thursday in this l.a. conference room with a blank storyboard and a brainstorming session that includes executive producer anne garefino and two staff writers. >> stone: and you have, like, a typical, like, cartman comes in... >> kroft: they have six days to deliver a completed episode to comedy central that will air the following wednesday. that usually involves five ten- to-12-hour days and one all- nighter. as soon as they have an idea for a scene, parker sill sit down

and bang it out, and then hand it off to the animators and, if necessary, to their lawyers. >> parker: we probably have more freedom than anyone in television and we have for a long time, but we do still, at the end of the day... >> stone: we have legal. >> parker: ...we have lawyers. we have legal. >> kroft: one of their touchiest episodes was about scientology, a notoriously litigious group. parker and stone wanted to include a scene dealing with tabloid rumors that tom cruise, its most famous member, was secretly gay. >> parker: and actually, the joke was just, "okay, we're going to have tom cruise show up and he's flamboyantly gay and whatever." and, like, "yeah, but you can't say he's gay." and it's like, "okay, but we can say he's, like, closeted gay." and they're like, "no, you really can't say that, either," like, and it just became this thing of, like, "what if he's literally in a closet?" and they're, like, "yeah, you can do that." >> hey, dad. tom cruise won't come out of the closet. >> mr. cruise. mr. cruise. come out of the closet. >> tom, it's nicole. you don't need to be in that closet anymore, tom.

>> tom, it's john travolta. tom, you've got to come out of the closet. oh, my god! >> kroft: their politics are indecipherable, but tending towards libertarian. they don't carry water for anyone, don't do market research. and their only target audience is each other. if something makes them both laugh, it ends up in the show. so, how do you describe this relationship? >> stone: at this point, it's kind of like a marriage, you know and, you know, in the way that we're just, like... we've just been together so long. we spend so much time together that you can almost finish each other's sentences. >> parker: and it's funny, because we're just at that level now where it just doesn't happen anymore that one of us can say to the other, "you know, one time, i was doing this." ( laughter ) because, "yeah, i know, i was there." >> anne garefino: the foundation of their relationship is one of the strongest partnerships i've ever seen in any business. >> kroft: ann garefino and scott rudin know them as well as anyone, and have been with them since the very beginning. garefino is the executive producer of "south park," and rudin is the entertainment mogul who launched their film careers.

both produced the broadway musical. >> scott rudin: sometimes, i've seen people try and triangulate one against the other. but, you know, you see people try to get between them, they shut it down so fast. they have each other's backs in the absolute best possible way. and it doesn't mean they don't disagree, because they frequently disagree, but they are genuinely a partnership. >> kroft: garefino thinks that matt stone is the more ruthless of the two when it comes to satire, and that trey is softer with a sweet sense of humor that provides the charm. we wanted to know what they thought of that analysis. >> stone: that anne's pretty smart. >> parker: anne's a bitch. ( laughter ) >> stone: see? see? that was the opposite, right? >> parker: we're just proving the opposite. >> stone: boy, that trey's ruthless. >> parker: ( bleep ) anne, she's fired. >> ♪ i believe that the lord god created the universe. ♪ i believe that he sent... >> kroft: there is not doubt that sharp teeth and a big heart are the foundation of their success. and both qualities are evident in "the book of mormon," which manages to ridicule the

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