that's it for us. "the early show" is next. >> caption colorado, llc comments@captioncolorado.com good morning good morning. angry penn state students swarm the campus as long-time football coach joe paterno is fired in the wake of the sex abuse scandal. the university president also gone. why federal investigators are now involved in the case. rick perry is ridiculed for drawing an embarrassing blank at the republican debate as he strugled to come up with the cabinet departments he vowed to cut. >> commerce, education and t the -- >> you can't name the third one? >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. many inside the gop say he is done as a candidate. we'll ask the texas governor

himself what happened and can he recover. eddie murphy sends a shockwave through hollywood after bowing out as host of the oscars with just three months to go until the big night. we'll tell you why he did it and who may step in to replace him early this thursday morning, who may step in to replace him early this thursday morning, november 10th, 2011. captioning funded by cbs good morning. there we are. welcome to "early show" early on a thursday morning. i'm chris wragge. >> i'm betty nguyen. you know, we all had it. these brain freezes and just not on that kind of stage. other candidates made news, as well. the full scoop on all of that in just a few minutes, including a conversation with governor perry himself. >> but, let's begin this morning with a sudden end of an era at pep state university just 12 hours after joe paterno announced he will retire because

of the child sex abuse charges, the university fired him, along with penn state's president. >> the late-night decision sparked an angry protest by thousands of penn state students. good morning, arman. >> good morning, betty. in the end the board of trustees had determined to clean house and joe had to go, as well as university president graham spanier. shortly after 10:00 p.m. students jammed the streets throwing rocks at police. their anger fueled by this announcement from the penn state board of trusties. >> the board of trustees and graham spanier had decided effectively immediately dr. spanier is no longer president of the university. in addition, joe paterno is no longer the head football coach

effective immediately. >> it was unanimous vote by the board that had ended the 46-year run as head coach. he was replaced on an interim basis by defensive coordinator tom bradley. >> what was the driving reason behind the removal of coach paterno? >> in consideration of all the facts and the difficulties that we're encountering during this time, it was the trustees' view that it was in the best interest long-term interest of our university to make that change. >> reporter: despite repeated requests, board vice chairman he refused to say exactly what those best interests were, but made clear the child sex abuse scandal had reached a point where drastic measures were needed. >> i would hope that everyone would agree that what we're doing is what we believe in our best judgment is in the best long-term interest of the university, which is much larger

than athletic programs. >> reporter: a source close to the family told cbs news the 84-year-old paterno an icon of coaching had been informed of the decision in a hand-delivered letter by a university official, just 15 minutes prior to the press conference. outside his home with wife sue at his side, paterno thanked a boisterous crowd of supporters. >> thanks and pray a little bit for those victims. >> reporter: paterno released a formal statement saying he was disappointed with the decision, but i have to accept it. adding to all of our fans and supporters, my family and i will be forever in your debt. according to a source close to the paterno family, coach paterno was stunned by the firing. the family is thinking you give your life to this place and this is how you are treated.

jonathan, a senior writer for sports illustrated. john, good morning. >> how are you doing? >> good. in light of what has surfaced. the gross negligence to exam the information at hand. did the board have any other choice but to fire joe paterno? >> i really don't think so. i mean, this has gotten to a point where as more people depart this grand jury, testimony and as public sentiment really swayed against paterno and hand fisted damage control, i think by pretty early on well before yesterday it became clear where this was heading. joe paterno's statement to the contrary, i think the board have little choice but to make the move they did last night. >> that statement that he issued yesterday, he didn't want the board to waste one minute thinking about his future. was that wishful thinking when he said he planned to retire at the end of the season? >> absolutely. you can sense a real riff here starting very early between the university's agenda and joe paterno's agenda. he hired his own pr and i think

yesterday was this preemptive strike by paterno, but, clearly, the board disregarded that. >> let's talk about the scene on campus right now. i know there was a collective gasp in the room last night when the announcement was read. on campus, what was the reaction from the student body then? >> yeah, it was sort of dead and then you had this announcement and then this flooding to the streets. a couple thousand college students sort of taking over, taking over the downtown. this is nuthing to do with the allegations. really nuthing to do with the university losing its president, all of this impromptu rally for joe paterno. you know, some of this was just college kids going out, expressing their frustration. some took it a lot more seriously. i talked to one girl who said, look, i never lost my grandparents. this is as much grief as i ever felt. it got scary at times. they overturned a news truck and they took to the streets and for a couple hours you had a mini riot at state college. >> the board is just trying to clean house here.

everyone associated with this scandal, basically, being told to leave and leave immediately are any more firings on the way? mike mcqueary who is still an assistant with the team. any more firings on the horizon? >> yeah. i don't think we're done with this yet. i don't think this investigation is over by any sense. i think that was one surprise from yesterday. you brought that up that mike mcqueary and now a full assistant coach who was not fired along with the university president and paterno. that was interesting, and a lot of other people did, too. there's still more to come here. we already lost, basically, four high-ranking officials and who knows who is coming next. >> and the big, i guess the big question will be, what happens this saturday when you try to cram 165,000 people into happy valley. thank you for taking the time here this morning, we appreciate it. >> thanks, chris. and in our next hour, we're going to address the real victims of this story and that's the young people that were

abused. we'll talk to two former victims of abuse on how to break the chain. now to politics, last night in michigan rick perry became the talk of the latest republican national debate when he lost his train of thought in the middle of the answer. >> he just forgot a key part of his own campaign platform. dean reynolds has more on that for us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, chris. last night's debate was supposed to be about the economy and for most of the evening, it was. but for a few moments, rick perry was undone in an excruciating way. never considered a great debater, the texas governor showed why last night. referring to the agencies he would eliminate if elected, he suffered a classic brain freeze. >> it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. com commer commerce, education and the --

>> you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government, i would do away with the education, the -- commerce. and, let's see -- i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> reporter: for the record, he was thinking about the energy departme department. perry's platfall was -- he fielded only one question last night on alleged inappropriate behavior with female subordinants and he minimized the issue by claiming his supporters are still with him. >> and they'll say, they don't care about the character assassination. they care about leadership and getting this economy growing. >> reporter: mitt romney's vulnerability has been a reputation for switching positions, but when he was confronted with several examples, he brushed them aside. >> i think many people understand that i am a man of

steadiness. >> reporter: he spearheaded a night of attacks on the president. others quickly followed suit. >> president obama had two years to get this economy going and move us towards an environment that speaks towards job growth and he failed miserably. everyone opposed bailouts. >> you just pro long the agony. >> reporter: vows to repeal the national health care law, a belief that easing regulations would help the housing market and a sense that the news media are failing to do their jobs. >> it's sad that the news media doesn't report accurately how the economy works. >> reporter: cain at one point referred to house speaker nancy pelosi as princess nancy and then aware that his regard for women has become an issue later apologized for it. but that gaffe pailed in comparison to perry's. now, after the debate perry came around to tell reporters how glad he was that he wore his boots on stage last night

because, as he put it, i sure stepped in it out there, unquote. i think we can all agree, he sure did. chris? >> cbs' dean reynolds in rochester, michigan, for us this morning, thank you. texas governor rick perry joins us this morning. governor, good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> with all due respect, what were you thinking last night, governor? >> i think i made an error last night. i stepped in it is what my wife would have said and she was correct. so, all of us make mistakes. i'm a human being. and the issue here is i had a lapse of memory and so many federal agents out there were coming to mind that i forgot the one that i was trying to think of, which was, obviously, the energy department. >> on a serious note here, it is understandable that you try to laugh something like this off. but many people argue that

running for president is no laughing matter. last night you just didn't look in some people's eyes very presidential. is that fair to say? >> well, every day i get up and try to lay out a vision for america and when we talk about what's important for americans is the governor of texas for the last decade and creating jobs is what's on people's minds. that's the seriousness of the issue and i readily admit i may not be the best debater or the smoothest politician on that stage, but what i am is the individual of substance when it comes to creating an environment where jobs can be, in fact, the focus of the entrepreneur class out there that are creating those jobs that americans really need right now. so, we can talk about style over substance all we want, but americans are looking for someone that will truly give them hope that we can get this country back working again. it's the reason i laid out a flat tax plan this last week of 20% flat tax given those deductions for home mortgages,

for charitable contributions and for the local taxes. 20% of that sent it in on the postcard and be done with it in the irs. >> but, governor, you can have all the great ideas in the world, but i think the first to admit, the impression that you make on people. like you said, you're a little bit more substance over style. doesn't your performance in these debates matter? a new poll out this morning in three key primary states, ohio, pennsylvania have you running at 5% right now. the mistakes during these debates keep adding up. >> we'll get up every day and do our job which is to make our message to the people of this country. that's the most important thing that is on my radar screen. if anyone is looking for the perfect candidate, i may not be it, but i'm pretty sure the perfect candidate is not made. i am human, i make mistakes. again, getting back to the seriousness of what's facing america and laying out a plan that balances our budget by 2020.

i'm the only candidate that laid out a plan. i get up every day with my major goal is to chair with americans how to make washington, d.c., as inconsequential in their lives as i can make it. matter of fact, they can go to my website today at rickperry.org and they can pick out the federal agency that they would most likely or like to forget about it. >> governor, i give you all the cred in the world to divert me here, but i have to go back to last night. these are some quotes i want to read you from some republican strategists. it was a political, the human equivalent of the shuttle "challenger." when you were on stage last night, did you realize how big of a mistake it was? >> whenever you're standing up in front of how many million people we were and you have a loss of a train of thought, sure, it impacts you. but the fact is, one error is not going to make or break a campaign. so, we're going to keep talking about what's important to the people of this country and that's the substance of how to get americans back working again.

>> one final question for you, your aides have talked about you scaling back your participation in future debates. after last night's performance, do you feel the need to jump right in and, again, we'll plug yourself in on cbs this coming saturday night, will you be there for that debate and do you plan to keep appearing at these debates or do you plan to scale back? >> i will be in south carolina on saturday night. i don't have any idea what my schedule is past that. >> governor, thank you for taking the time. we appreciate it and we know it is a rough day for you, to say the least. we appreciate you facing the music here this morning. governor rick perry. >> absolutely. >> looking forward to that debate. >> you want to get right back on the field and he will have his chance here saturday night on cbs. first look at the headlines. good morning. >> good morning to you both. stocks overseas went on a roller coaster ride this morning amid europe's debt crisis and heavy losses on wall street, but this morning stocks opened higher here in new york. here are the numbers right now

for wall street. earlier today big swings after asian stocks saw major selloff. this morning in athens, lucas papademos named new prime minister. in eastern turkey this morning a scramble to find earthquake survivors. yesterday's 5.7 magnitude quake toppled a downtown hotel. overall, at least eight people have died, including

still ahead this morning, rupert murdoch's son answers more questions about the phone hacking scandal that targeted prince williams, celebrities and crime victims. we'll ask a former executive about the case. more on the fallout from last night's republican debate. we'll ask a key gop senator about the party's chances of unseating president obama. this is "early show" on cbs.

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welcome back to "the early show." i'm chris wragge along with betty nguyen. er rahil is off. >> good morning. >> we expected eddie murphy to be the host of the academy awards but it's getting serious. the oscars are now without a host. murphy has bowed out. >> and there is not a lot of time to replace him h. fans are floating a list of names online. everyone from billy crystal to -- get this -- the muppets. >> first britain's phone hacking scandal is back in the spotlight. rupert murdoch's son faces harsh questions in parliament. >> members want to know what he

knew about reporters listening to private voicemails of public figures. we have more on this from london. good morning, charlie. >> reporter: good morning, betty. ever since the scandal broke over the summer the question is when will it catch up to the murdochs. today, james murdoch is back on the defensive. it's the lawmakers versus the murdochs, round two. and the gloves are off. >> mr. murdoch you must be the first mafia boss in history who didn't know he was running a criminal enterprise. >> mr. watson, please. that's inappropriate. >> reporter: politicians called james murdoch back to face questions over what he knew of phone hacking at the news of the world newspaper which closed down because of the scandal. it's been a tough week already. the company admitted paying a private detective to spy on lawyers of phone hacking victims presumably to dig up dirt and make them think twice before pursuing their cases.

former policeman derek webb said he spied on tom watson. turns out this is nothing new. webb said he routinely followed princes william and harry, kate middleton and other celebrities. the more pressing matter today is james murdoch's survival. he's repeatedly insisted he had no idea hacking was widespread at the news of the world. new documentation released since his first round of testing in july casts doubt on his version of events. in short, interrogators want to know if he lied to them. >> i was not aware. >> this is the most humble day of my life. >> reporter: this time james came without his father murdoch who took a cream pie in the face from a protester despite the best efforts of his wife wendy who was a good step ahead of security officers. with suggestions top executives knew three years ago that hacking was widespread and they discussed it directly with james murdoch, he could use a protection force of his own.

rupert and james murdoch apologized repeatedly over the scandal. james did so again today on behalf of the company. apologies may not be enough this time around. chris? >> charlie, thank you so much. also in london this morning, is a former executive, journalist and talk show host nick ferrari. >> hi, chris. >> how is james murdoch handling the question? >> if his father got hit with a custard pie james is being battered by the questioning. the mps are angry. they believe they have been misled or lied. they have had four months of other executives coming forward giving evidence contrary to what james said. >> in your estimation does anyone believe james murdoch had no idea of the hacking? >> it's a small club if they do. as they go through the testimony from the other executives he seems to beboxed in a corner. many people thought he'd come

today with a different game plan. what can he say? he said he's known nothing. difficult to go back on that now. >> why wasn't rupert murdoch brought back? not because of the pie incident, was it? >> no. it's the belief that rupert murdoch sits at a higher level in the company. james murdoch runs the british end of it. he's the chief executive of british news international. rupert murdoch is in australia, the u.s., the uk. the mps were happy. they believe they got what they needed from him. there was nothing more required. >> i want to ask you about the hacking scandal and what it's done to the murdoch name in great britain. how has the perception of the family changed now, this media conglomerate. >> i would say we might be seeing history in the making behind me now. it is possibly the destruction of a dynasty that goes back to a couple of newspaper titles in australia 60 years ago that rupert inherited from his father he built into an empire from magazines to movies, tv to

newspaper titles. he had the lot. this guy, james, was meant to be the heir apparent, the son. everybody accepted it. now he's fighting not just for his political and professional life here. he's fighting for the opportunity to run the company. >> some new allegations brought forth yesterday by the police officer derek webb about the claims that basically p.i.s were paid t

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editor-at-large brian cooley joins us. >> just in time for the start of the holiday shopping season, c-net's editors have the newest smartphones, tvs and tablets. take a look. what we did was take over a cool art gallery in new york city to turn it into a tech playland, but with a real purpose. that's to let folks get their hands on the latest technology. let's look at smartphones. the horse race is simple. iphone versus android right now. the iphone 4s just came out. it's outstanding. this has a camera built in, this little thing. it takes pictures so good i would prefer this than a $400 or $500 compact pocket camera. the androids are outselling the iphone now which people don't realize. they have much bigger screens in almost every case. the amount of real estate there is fundamentally different. if you want a real keyboard with

actual keys, go android. iphone, $200 to $400. the android guys are up to $299 at the most. when it comes to tablets, this is different from the smartphone world where the iphone has serious competition. there isn't serious competition for the ipad yet. what's coming which is interesting to watch in a week we have new tablets from amazon do and barnes and noble. amazon has the kindle fire, a seven-inch tablet with simpler technology in it. you're going to find the barnes & noble nook tablet in the $249 range. it leans more on having better specs which i don't think consumers are as excited about this season. the biggest screen that's cool for the holidays is good old television, but connected tv. all it means is you use your existing home broad band connection, cable, dsl, whatever, to screen full-screen

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for the ipad. >> finally heating up. there has not been a serious ipad competitor. this will change. we have the amazon kinld fire and the barnes & noble nook tablet. $200 and $250 are the prices. half the price or less of the least expensive ipad. that's the first thing on consumers' minds. smaller. seven inch versus ten inch. that's a good-sized device. you won't pocket that. >> no. but you will pocket the phones that are out. i was surprised that the android is outselling the iphone. >> it is. a lot of folks don't realize it. there are so many android models. we have three here. versus two models of iphones and the android are on every carrier. smartphones all do the same thing basically. find one that works for you. >> good information. >> up next here, eddie murphy quits as host of the os kars. who will he trade places with? >> the latest on the hollywood chaos. this is "the early show" on cbs.

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now to a real hollywood drama. one year after the academy awards producer was forced to quit, now the host is gone as well. >> eddie murphy gave up the job leaving the program up in the air. bill whitaker has more. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: oscar night, hollywood's biggest, with the whole world watching the whole spectacle is precisely orchestrated, nothing left to chance. so when eddie murphy, the host of the show bowed out after his friend producer brett ratner resigned, chaos. >> there is an image of turmoil around the oscar telecast and the academy of motion picture arts & sciences needs to stabilize that. >> how is that right if you made it out of legos. >> the dimensions are accurate. >> might as well use tinker toys. who is this -- webster? >> reporter: the oscars tapped

eddie murphy and ratner hoping they would bring their chemistry sto the sometimes stodgy os kars. but with ratner they got more edge than they bargained for. at a screening for "tower heist" he made a gay slur. he apologized. >> i'm looking forward to the experience. >> reporter: as for murphy it would have been a chance to show a new generation the kind of comedy that made him famous in the 1980s. but losing ratner, his friend and producer -- >> it is an amazing platform, but it's also a very high risk tightrope act to be the host of the os kars. if you're eddie murphy, you've got a lot to lose. >> reporter: brian grazer stepped in yesterday to save the telecast. now he's scrambling to find a host because this show must go on. bill whittaker, cbs news, hollywood. >> the oscars are handed out february 26th. the new producing team has less

than four months to sort it out. >> not a lot of time. >> brian grazer, one of the best. this is a guy with the midas touch. hopefully they can formulate something. you can always go to billy crystal, steve martin. >> some people are saying the muppets. i was looking forward to seeing eddie murphy. >> he would be great. >> still ahead, some republicans say rick perry is finished after last night's debate but the gop field has h other problems as well. >> we'll ask a key senator why he's not endorsing anyone at this moment. this is "the early show" on cbs. we'll be right back. more colorful. ♪ and putting all our helpers to work? so we can build on our favorite traditions by adding a few new ones. we've all got garlands and budgets to stretch. and this year, we can keep them both evergreen. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. here's a bright idea. trade in any light string

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the future of redevelopm good morning. it's 7:55. i'm grace lee with your cbs 5 headlines. the future of redevelopment agencies could be decided in the state's supreme court with hearings beginning today. governor brown has proposed eliminating redevelopment agencies, this to help reduce the budget deficit overall. several cities in the statewide redevelopment association filed a lawsuit in july saying the governor and lawmakers are trying to sidestep prop 22, which bans the state from raiding local government funding. the interim mayor of san francisco is now declaring victory in his first election bid in the new ranked choice runoff system. ed lee leads 61 to 39% over supervisor john avalos. 11 rounds were needed to get the majority. avalos was the only other

candidate remaining. about 32,000 late-arriving ballots will be counted before a winner is officially declared. we'll have your traffic and weather coming right up. ,,,,,,,,,,

good morning. well, let's start off with a live look through walnut creek. a look at our sensors, this is a connector ramp that's partially blocked. southbound 680 to westbound 24, that accident is cleared to the right shoulder but emergency crews just got to the scene and they are blocking one lane of

that connector ramp. it is stacked up to concord looks like towards 242. better news for the dumbarton bridge. all lanes are now open. we had an accident in the 6:00 hour eastbound 84 going against the commute of the dumbarton bridge by the toll plaza so all lanes once again open. there never was a huge backup. but at the bay bridge, it is actually not too bad. only about five or 10 minutes to get on the bridge. that's traffic. for your forecast, here's lawrence. >> elizabeth, a lot of sunshine out there right now. we are looking good. it's chilly in spots though starting with 30s in some of the valleys. plenty of sun showing up around the bay area today. let's pan around and look for yourself, looking good so far. a few high clouds, there's a weak disturbance off the coastline that will be approaching as we head throughout the day. that means we'll see a few more high clouds across our skies today but still comfortable temperatures mainly into the 60s and the 70s. now, things going to begin to change overnight tonight. we'll watch clouds gathering here in the bay area. and it looks like a chance of showers as we head in toward friday. doesn't look like a big storm

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and welcome back to "the early show." dealing with a little -- >> fog out there. >> little fog. a little marine layer here in new york city this morning. welcome bah to early show. i'm chris wragge along with betty nguyen. >> great to be here. we'll start this hour with the latest on campaign 2012. where most of the recent news has been about herman cain. >> but this morning, rick perry is the focus thanks to embarrassing gaffe last night. dean reynolds was there last night. >> reporter: good morning. to say rick perry had an off-night would be an undere

understatement. this one here will be hard to live down. in a discussion about government spending. perry referred to the agencies that he would eliminate if elected. or, at least he tried to do. >> three agencies of government when i get there are gone. commerce, education and -- what's the third one there? commerce, education and the, uh. >> you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government, i would do away with education, the uh -- >> commerce. >> commerce and let's see -- i can't, the third one i can't. i'm sorry. >> reporter: a few minutes later, he explained that he was thinking about the energy department. but the damage was done. and that was a great relief to herman cain. who's tried for days to weather a controversy involving accusations of inappropriate

behavior with female subordinates. he got one question on that topic and perried it. by claiming his supporters that are still with him. >> they don't care about the character assassination, they care about leadership and getting this economy growing. >> reporter: economic issues dominated. and there were repeated attacks on president obama's stewardship. >> the obama economy has crushed middle-income americans. >> reporter: vows to repeal the national health care laws. and a sense that the news media are failing to do their jobs. >> it's sad that the news media doesn't report accurately how the economy works. >> reporter: as for perry, he told reporters later, that quote, i really stepped in it. now, perry will have a chance to repair the damage this saturday. during a debate on foreign policy at spartanburg, south carolina. a debate hosted by cbs news.

betty? >> dean, i'm going to take it. dean reynolds in rochester, michigan. joining us now to talk more about the gop presidential race is jim demint of south carolina. senator, good to have you with us this morning. >> thank you, chris. >> you heard and i'm sure you last night a cringe worthy moment by the texas governor who admitted afterwards that he quote, unquote, stepped in it. the worst debate effort in the history of debates. did you cringe when you saw this? >> yes, i did. chris, normally would not be a problem. obviously, had some problems in previous debates. but collectively the candidates were putting the right issues on the table for the economy and jobs and i think they were focused on the problems that obama had with really understanding and promoting a free-market economy. so, i thought that the debate was good and the candidates really didn't go after each

other. so, it made a good impression on me over all. >> the talk today will be on the gaffe by governor perry, not necessarily the good parts that you mentioned. >> yes, we need to stay on message. i thought we heard a good message out of our candidates last night. so, i think when we get to saturday, with the cbs debate and near my hometown, we'll see this these candidates a chance to talk in more detail about foreign policy, big issues, it's starting to make our candidates look pretty good. >> we appreciate the great state of south carolina hosting us this week. when you see the candidates on stage last night, and you see their performance right there, if you had to pick one to put up against president obama in a debate setting right now, who would you choose. >> there are several of them,

chris, i would have to say last night, newt gingrich and mitt romney excelled in a lot of ways. they had a clear vision on policies. we may see some different standouts on saturday. i have decided not to endorse and focus on the senate conservatives finds. it's important that we have a senate that can work with our next president and understand free-market economics. >> now, unlike 2007, when you did endorse mitt romney at the time, you said a moment ago, you're not going to endorse a candidate at this point, some might say, maybe you're dissatisfied with the current choice, is that the case or do you just want to sit back? >> no, it's to opposite. we have three, four candidates now vying for the top position and they're all good. and they have -- i think great qualifications, the grassroots conservatives across the country

haven't selected a candidate. i don't want to divide my attention what i'm doing with the senate conservatives fund. i need 100% of the conservatives across the country helping elect others that we're trying to get into the senate. >> the mistake that perry made last night, many people sare saying that's the final nail in his coffin. >> it wasn't good. i don't want to announce the end of his campaign just yet. there's still time for the candidates to change position. i'm not talking ababout policy positions, i'm talking about position in the race. i want to encourage the candidates to take stronger positions about what we need to do at the federal role in economy. >> time is running out. senator jim demint, thank you so

much. reminder see the next republican debate presented by cbs news, saturday night at 8:00 p.m. right here on cbs. we have more now on the child sex abuse scandal that led to last night's firing of legendary penn state football coach joe paterno, which set off a massive protest on cam busby about 2,000 students. the case against jerry sandusky follows a similar pattern, exploiting children after gaining their trust. >> what do we need to break that cycle? joining us now is david clohessy and theo fleury. good morning to you both. theo, i want to start with you in toronto this morning. even though jerry sandusky wasn't abusing players on the penn state team, you were abused

by your trusted hockey coach for a number of years, how were you able to deal with that? >> well, not very well. you know, i went down a path of, you know, a lot of self-destruction, a lot of, you know, alcoholic, drug addict, you know, had a lot of relationship problems, relationship issues, so you know, it was a difficult time in my life. but i'm really happy where i'm at today. >> how long did it take for you to get the help that you needed. >> probably about 27 years. >> what finally led you to, i guess, seek help? >> well, i was just really sick and tired and fed up, you know, i was caring around a secret for a long, long time, and you know, i wasn't functioning as a human being at that point in my life. and you know, i had a great c

conversation with god. on a particular night. and that was about six years ago. and from that day forward, my life has been fantastic. and now, to be an advocate for children and keeping children safe and spreading the message, and not only that, i honestly believe, if you have a little bit of hope left, you can make a lot of great strides in your life. and you know, i'm finally at a place in my life where i have peace and happiness, it has been a incredible journey. >> david, lot of times when we see cases like that, it's very similar to priests abusing children as well, help us understand how long does it go on and why does it go on for so long? >> sadly, abuse can go on for years with even one victim, i

think there are two key factors. first of all, we have to remember that child predators are cunning, shrewd, but also very warm, they're lovable people. if they weren't no parent would trust their kid with them. >> is penn state doing enough by firing paterno, by firing the president, is this enough? >> absolutely not. it's a good first step. heads must roll. when adults conceal child sex crimes. there's clearly a culture at the school, focused on self-preservation, that has to change. for starters, they've got to graduate their staff and students how to respond appropriately in this case. you know, right there's a criminal investigation going on. and the staff and the students at that school have to be

aggressively reaching out who saw, or suffered abuse by sandusky. to rally around wrong-doers, it's scared them. >> not only with your case, now with jerry sandusky, these are trusted figures, how do you parents go about making sure they trust the coach, whether it's a priest or coach, that the parents can trust these adults that their kids spend so much time with us? >> well, i think, i think, you know, it's a really tough situation. you know, when you drop your kids off at activities today, you know, it's not a baby-sitting service anymore, you really have to make sure you're there, make sure you observe and make sure, you know, your children are never, ever left alone in a one-on-one

situation with any coach or any manager or anybody, you know, at all. so, and the whole thing about this whole penn state thing, nobody's really talking about the victims. everybody's talking about sandusky and everybody's talking about joe paterno and you know, what is the university going to do for these boys? i'm sure they can draw on their resources and get these boys the help they need. it took me 27 years to come to a place of being comfortable in my own skin again. my wish is that somebody takes the bull by the horns here and reaches out to the, you know, the boys that, you have gone through what they have gone through. >> thank you both very much. theo brings up a tremendous point here. that gets lost in the whole transition.

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beautiful girl who loved me and i loved her unconditionally. >> reporter: in the summer of 2007, john needham met 19-year-old jackie villagomez at a party in california. she was a high school graduate who wanted to get into modeling and acting. >> you know, she was absolutely precious to me. >> reporter: john had just come back from iraq after serving more than a year. he came home shattered, physically and emotionally. he'd been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. john's brother mike. >> people asked me how john was. it was kind of like, i don't know. i don't know how john is because john's not here anymore. it's somebody else. >> reporter: two months after being medically discharged from the army, john did the unthinkable. orange county prosecutor steve mcgray vi. >> jackie was beaten to death. it was a bloody scene. the pictures show a scene that, you know, most people would think it's a quentin tarentino

movie. >> reporter: john beat jackie to death with his bare hands. john said something inside him snapped. >> i see it as complete chaos. complete insanity. i see myself being uncontrollable. turning into an animal. i never wanted this this to happen. i was trained to kill. i come home. i can't adjust to the regular civilian lifestyle. i spun out of control. i needed help. >> you can't let sympathy affect the administration of justice. simply because someone is serving your country, you can't use that as an excuse or a pass on unlawful criminal conduct. >> unfortunately with the way i was trained, you know, to react to threats is to neutralize

threats. even with someone i love. >> troi robey roberts is with u. this is a horrific killing. john said, "i just couldn't adjust when i came home." how sick was he? >> there was no history of criminality or violence before he went to war. when he came back there were frequent explosions of anger and frightening flashbacks. his father said many times they would find john stripped naked in the fetal position in the corner of the house in an altered house and it would take forever for him to snap out of it. he was on medications and none worked for him. >> we heard for years about post traumatic stress disorder being something so many young men and women return to the states with after spending time in iraq and afghanistan. has it been used as a defense for murder? >> yes. three years ago an iraq veteran living in oregon killed an

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good morning. well, that accident blocking partially blocking the connector ramp to walnut creek is now completely cleared to the right shoulder. there still may be activity out there though. southbound 680 on the connector ramp to westbound 24 so it's sluggish from at least willow pass and even past the accident it is slow through lafayette.

here's a live lack at the bay bridge toll plaza. things have really thinned out. about five minutes to get on the bridge. the nimitz through oakland this started to get slow now in just the last half hour or so. northbound 880 is almost half hour commute between 238 and the maze. that is traffic. for your forecast, here is lawrence. >> elizabeth, so far, so good looking at a lot of sunshine around the bay area a little hazy. we have seen a couple of patches of fog in the valley. throughout the day, plenty of sunshine, just a few passing high clouds as storm clouds actually gathering off the coastline now. that should leave us high and dry for today. 60s and 70s maybe some southerly winds ahead of the storm, kind of helping to warmth temperatures up a little bit. but i think as we get into tomorrow, we'll notice some changes overnight clouds gathering. a chance of showers on and off through the better part of friday. the good news is the weekend looks partly cloudy but should stay dry. warmer weather and dry weather continuing toward the middle of next week.

welcome back to the early show. i'm chris wragge along with betty nguyen. erica hill has the day off. coming up, an interesting look at today's young adults. call them generation y or millennials. whatever they want to be called. they think the internet is a necessity in life like air or water. now they couldn't live without it. they believe internet access is more important than a car or significant other. take a look at that, folks. we'll take a look at this mindset. >> completely different mindset. also ahead if being a woman can hurt you when shopping for health insurance. many insurance companies routinely deny women coverage or charge them higher premiums than

men. we'll help you fight back. first we want to welcome back a former colleague who nearly died covering the iraq war. five years ago kimberly dozier and her team were reporting in baghdad when a car bomb exploded killing four people including her camera man paul douglas and her sound man james brolin. >> after a long rehabilitation she returned to work. she writes about the experience in "breathing the fire" which was reissued in paperback. thanks for being with us. >> great to be here. >> especially going through what you experienced a lot of people would say, there is no way i'm going back to where it happened. you did. why? >> i know a lot of troops who feel the same way. you need to go back to go back to your mission. it's not the adrenaline rush of being in a war zone. it is being with your team, whether it's reporters or diplomats or troops. the people to your left and your right that you rely on in a

situation like that. >> is it a sense of normalcy for you then? >> normalcy and just the car bomb didn't stop my way of life. it didn't stop what i spent years building. i have been back. i go back regularly now. it was hairy the first couple times. >> what was it like the first time going back? >> when you drove down baghdad's airport road or in kabul when general petraeus flew me around it was like, all right, we're back in the red zone. something could happen. but after i got past the initial surge of fear i was back home and the people there were like, hey, welcome back. what took you so long? >> how were you able to channel the fear and use it as a strength and not only write the book but relive the memories. like we mentioned people died and you came close to losing your life as well. the people who died were close to you. >> they were very close. part of why i wrote the book and

wanted to go to the field was to pay it forward for them. i'm hear for a reason. i want to set an example. i know a lot of troops come back to the states and find we in the media have done a great job telling the story of troops who need help and not a great job telling the story of troops who come back with more resilience, more strength, more wisdom because they were tested by fire in the field. i'm a loudmouth. i can stand up and talk about it. yes, i have been through trauma, through war. i'm a better reporter for it. i hope i'm a better person for it. this is why i keep trying to tell the story. >> do you feel you have a unique perspective because of what you have been through when you tell the stories of what some of the men and women are dealing with when they come back? >> i listen more, but i also went through a lot of what they go through when they come back and find people are fearful of them. they wonder, do you have post traumatic stress disorder not, hey, you've got post traumatic growth, as it's called.

people who were tested in the field. they have been through things other meshes can't imagine. these are the people you want on your team. instead we find veteran unemployment is higher than regular rates, up to 30% in some states. i want to get the message out. this should not be what you think of when you see a veteran. you should think, wow, this person knows more than anybody else i can hire. >> that's a question that i think is on the mind of lots of people, too. it's bothered me and other people. one of your nation's big failings is how we are not there for these kids when they come back. the unemployment, the homelessness rate of iraq and afghanistan vet is rans. do you think this country has not done a great job for its veterans? >> i think they don't know them yet. fewer than 1% of this country serves in uniform. it's an alien culture. people will thank a veteran but won't hire a veteran. that's also why i brought the

book out. profits go to wounded warrior charities to try to bridge the gap between the public and the people who have been fighting for them in the field. >> there is a lot of help needed indeed. thanks for bringing the spotlight on this. we appreciate you telling your story. >> thank you. >> you can read an excerpt from "breathing the fire" oh at theerlyshow.cbsnews.com. >> we have a check on the headlines. good morning. >> a new survey finds the number of homes in foreclosure jumped dramatically last month. according to reality track, foreclosures shot up 10%. nearly 78,000 properties received an initial default notice. the biggest were in florida, pennsylvania and indiana. the number of homes scheduled to be auctioned or repo sesd also increased. floyd landis was accused of hacking into the computers of a french doping lab. he was stripped of his 2006 tour

du france victory. landis was given a 12-month suspended sentence. in london james murdoch faced a second grilling on britain's phone hacking scand

think about this. in 37 states it's legal to deny women health insurance simply because they are women. according to prevention magazine 95% of companies that practice gender rating were rated denials. >> dr. holly phillips is here. being a female reading this not only was frustrating but shocking. diane, let me start with you.

your report, you say women can pay up to 84% more than men when it come -- >> that's right. >> why is that? >> it's shocking. it's called gender rating. women pay more. it's because women actually are using health care services more frequently. we at prevention feel women should be rewarded and applauded for using health care services. >> yes. helps you catch disease ahead of time so there is less cost for treatment. >> it sure does. not only is this practice legal and rampant. we think it's outrajs for that reason. it lowers health care costs for the whole system. lots of body parts, so little time. but it actually saves lives. at prevention that's what we think is important. >> when you investigate this, are those the explanations you're given? well, women use their medical benefits more. >> health insurance companies

don't have to tell you why you are denied. when you ask them the health insurance companies don't apologize. they say it's good business practice. >> how does it affect the patient on that end of this? >> that's the irony. really the more you see the doctor, women tend to see the doctor earlier and at younger ages so they have prevention, early detection and early treatment which ironically save it is insurer money. the insurer should want people to get into the doctor early. >> having a quadruple bypass is more expensive than it is to go every year. >> and certainly almost all cancers if caught in stage 1, it is a fraction of the cost to treat someone than if you wait until stage 4. >> are you surprised this is legal. >> we are. everybody we tell is shocked. they can't believe it's america in 2011. in fact, if you go back to the '60s, health insurance companies self-regulated. they used to charge more based on race. they don't anymore. we at prevention believe health

insurance companies should step up and change practices now. >> what has the response been? i know you mentioned in the '60s. how long has this been going on where you have seen 84% more. this is a drastic increase. >> more americans are at risk as a companies charge more and people are out of work. you have to have individual health insurance policies. >> what do the companies say when you approach them? what did you think the response would be? >> i think the way to approach companies is to know that you are the person with the power. you can shop around. you can take your money else whethe where. that forces companies to be competitive. if you threaten to take your business elsewhere they will more likely capitulate and do something for you. >> you have to know if you are in one of 13 states where it is illegal to do gender rating and you feel you were denied or charged more you can go to the health insurance state commission to make a case. you want group coverage as much as possible. if you had health insurance, you

don't, make sure you're on your partner, your husband's group plan. some trades and professions have group plans if you're a lawyer, teacher or mechanic. you know, lastly the affordable health care act goes into effect in 2014. between now and then this can happen to you. let your state representative know that you want that act not to be taken apart. there is political opposition to it. >> do a little homework. make sure you are protected. >> there are no guarantees. thank you very much. we appreciate it. okay. the men and women of each generation are remembered for how they changed society. baby boomers had free love and civil rights. generation x had the dot com bubble. >> today's youth's defining characteristic is "just google it." the online world is incredibly important to them. >> reporter: millennials, also

known as general united nations y. they rely on technology more than any generation before themment. >> google is a verb now. go google it. >> reporter: the internet isn't just a necessity, it's second nature. >> it's organic to them. it's their first language, as natural to them as eating and breathing. >> reporter: 55% claim they couldn't live without it. >> i would rather go with internet than have heat, i think. >> reporter: really? >> a warm coat and internet access the great. >> i know a lot of people that probably wouldn't be happy without the internet. it's shaped who we are as a generation. >> reporter: the same goes for the smartphone. if you had to lose your wallet or your smartphone which would you choose to lose? >> oh, yikes. >> i would choose to lose my wallet. >> reporter: really? >> why's that? >> you can use your smartphone to cancel your credit cards. >> it's password protected. i can go to my ipad, track it

with the gps inside. >> reporter: plugging in may be holding them back. >> this is the most privileged, overscheduled, inactive generation physically we have seen. >> reporter: only 25% of american teenagers held summer jobs this year, the lowest percentage ever recorded. according to census data the number of young adults living with parents is up 5% since 2005. >> it seems there is a time before i was born when you turned 18 and you were out of the house. that's completely different now. >> as a generation, we are more dependent on external factors like the internet and our parents. cloud has a silver lining. >> they know how to connect with people, work the world, how to access information more quickly than any other generation in human history. >> it's a click of the mouse away. is it easy or lazy? >> reporter: cbs news, new york. >> so much to talk about here.

joining us is the man known as the gen-y guy, author of "y-size your business." good to have you with us, jason. >> thanks for having me back. >> millennials, let's understand this. >> careful. i wish i was. >> i want to talk about a study. 56% of current college students won't accept a job from a company that bans social media. 60% say they have the right to work remotely with a flexible schedule and one of three students prioritize social media, access and devices over salary. as someone who deals with the generation y people all the time, when you see the numbers do you want to say, hey, come on. get real. >> i know their parents feel that way. this is what's interesting. when we interview them they would rather be unemployed than take a job they think is beneath them. this is a shock. 20 years ago if mom or dad said, get a job, you got a job.

we're like, i can't work today. it's friday. it's a different mindset. and to use technology as a reason not to get a job is another manifestation of this. >> or turn down a job. what are businesses doing? are they saying, forget it, we don't need you anyway. >> it's mixed. if the talent is high tech, engineering, there is a workforce shorttaj that's overlooked. we have the highest number of job postings in three years since before the recession. these highly skilled industries are really looking for millennials and gen-y. they say, we'll give you the smartphone, work from home, bring your mom, that's fine! you'll be here on time. they are recruiting differently, making more level organizations and giving the millennials a chance to make a difference from day one. that's what we want more than title or money. >> the gen-yers aren't lazy, but they have a different mentality. they are highly skilled. >> some of them are lazy.

>> let's not go over board. >> i have a lot of friends that haven't woken up yet. don't get me wrong. >> it is 8:45. >> they do have a different work preference. that means -- like yesterday i spoke to ceos. they said, jason, your generation is great. they don't show up on time but they stay up late. at 2:00 a.m. they are sending e-mails. >> they are working. >> we work differently. people want us to work the way they work and it doesn't fit this generation. >> do a lot of companies say, look, we are not willing to warm up to these trends and does that hurt kids trying to get jobs? >> it does. in fact, if i were to coach again-y millennials i would say, get a job now. if you stay unemployed after high school or college graduation for a year, two, three it's harder to reenter the work force. take the job you can get now and get the experience. build your network. do things to give you options rather than saying, i'm 28. i need to be a manager first. never worked anywhere, but i

have to be in management. >> you have to take into account mom and dad will kick you out of the house so you have to get a job. >> it's not happening. when we interview parents and say, when are you going to get your kids to leave, the average response was the age of 30. >> maybe that's the problem. parents, get them out of the house. >> you know, if my parents could have got me out at 16 i would have been out. >> that's a different story. >> i remember that conversation. don't even think about coming home, christian. up next, if you're planning to go to the white house don't expect freebies. why the president is cutting back,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

well, everybody loves free stuff. it's the best price in town, as they say. the government gives away a lot of it paid for my bi taxpayers. >> the president said it's time to cut down on swag.

as bill plantee sh shows us. good morning. >> reporter: if you visit any government office you may walk out with a bit of commemorative swag like a frosty mug courtesy of the federal prison in louisburg, pennsylvania, presumably not for inmates. now the president has decreed, no more t-shirts, mugs, pens, anything like that. he's cracking down on wasteful spending. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: even the president has gotten government sbwag now and then like this cap given to him by robert muller on his first visit to the fbi in 2009. now with the federal government mired in debt, the president has stepped up with a modest contribution, an executive order to cut $4 billion in government waste. >> we thought it was entirely appropriate for our governments and agencies to try to root out waste, large and small, in a

systematic way. >> reporter: it's not just souvenirs. the president tells government agencies to reduce spending by 20% in travel costs, technology devices such as computers and smartphones, by putting more federal documents online to reduce printing costs, and cutting transportation costs by using fewer car services for senior officials. >> it doesn't replace the importance of the work that congress needs to do in coming up with a balanced bold plan to reduce our deficit. but it indicates once again that there are things that we can do right now that will deliver government more efficiently, more consumer friendly for less money. >> reporter: leslie page of citizens against government waste said the president's cuts are about appearances and don't amount to much. >> there is a whole lot waste, fraud and abuse to cut. this is very low-hanging fruit.

>> reporter: however there is no gesture too small for the president's effort to show he will act even if congress won't. and the news isn't all bad. the white house is still handing out little souvenir boxes of m & ms. why? because they are donated by the candy company. they are not paid for with money from the taxpayers' pockets. betty? >> at least they're staying. pick up a couple box. >> that's all i have got frn the white house are the m & ms and i did enjoy them. >> reporter: they will still be there. >> we have early show swag here. we have the ski hats which are big sellers. baseball caps, not so much. the mugs, incredibly popular. >> hot item. >> everybody has them. >> reporter: we don't cut back. >> send us some d.c. stuff and we'll send you swag. >> reporter: deal. >> thank you. have a great day. see you tomorrow. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,