good morning a wellcome a great day the lord has made what to redress some be glad in it its easter. the day of renewal and rebirth and revitalization. the new life comes with the world not just for individuals but for the whole world to believe. to celebrate easter as to my colleagues in two of my friends the rev. carroll great have you. and reverend dr. ivory. yet at shattuck and you're at the twin towers and the media.

also chaplain for the summit area of service areas from san leandro hallways to fremont. easter what's the message for easter? people hear it all the time to leave something new to say to people on easter? i think so it's an opportunity for us to look at ourselves the new knowing that jesus christ is come to save as and redeem us and that we're people nor risen so weak and cannot not the same but new and shake off it's not serving as an moving to a place that we could be more of service healthy whole human beings knowing that our sense of been forgiven so to move forward with that risen spirit of christ in our heart. east germans a lot of things to me overcoming the fear

of death and victory is christiansen resurrection but what most of the best descriptions for me is new life and new beginnings i think as christians we ought to know that in our darkest hours there's always the opportunity for new life so i have the picture of an egg bursting forth and then there be an outcome of something new survey, are shallows and to experience new life even in our darkest moments there can be light. what about people that come after met sunday but only see on easter and never see them again to think they come with that kind of expectation and hope that we've just described? i think they come with a lot of things i think some come

with a bird and heart and a sense of obligation feeling like they have to and not quite knowing why and that's our opportunity clergy opportunity to preach to them the word as you burt said that death does not own new era burton's do not own you and your troubles do not continue and that there is no life. and have the opportunity to live renewed and that is not just about this moment but it's many other sundays and mondays and tuesdays and wednesdays. we have a lot of people who are marginal questions that come a few times a year to church on easter is the time for them to either tradition and a cow with this sense of hope and expectations and they say this is what i believe in this is my faith is important day for me.

they would it may and they've set with a sense of hope and inspiration. the great illusion said they come to the question is it true? is this really true? and that always pondered that for the last year or so but i heard that. do think they come with that question the is this really true third resurrection the new life in the hope. @ and they come out with a sense in addition to that also a sense of hope of making a connection with god. that there's always on our side that cause for pride so people come questing for the experience and hopefully they find it on easter morning.

will take a break now but will be back in a great with a great deal of information and spirit in both the but you saying here so i know people listening are very inspired thanks for joining us. join us as to talk to rev. carroll and dr. ivory on this easter sunday morning.

its about easter this morning when talking to rev. carroll and the rev. dr. she ripped ivory. carol you also have another responsibility as a chaplain tell us little about that imagine have to experience renewal and death experiences.

i worked as a positive care chaplain is helping folks that alleviates as best as they can they're suffering and to provide as much comfort as a possibly can in the health-care system around terminal illnesses are chronic long-term illnesses so folks to come with questions of where is god and then it's of this. part of my conversation in journey with them as about hanging on to hope in the midst of great tragedy and how to discover new meaning in small things because it may not be a big winner " but maybe the small thing and maybe a smaller survey that comes the hospital that will give them a kind word or cinema song. interaction about finding hope in the midst of all things. you mentioned a reference to howard we all know the great religious thinker and writer so

hard to see his works involved in terms of easter? he always had this way of saying the crisis and that was as an opportunity of growth so you could have one question where one individual the coast to the very same situation responding very differently because they have one person has a sense of hope and faith and trust and it comes alive in the time of crisis and the is the experience to grow and go deeper in their faith. one of the import and works that he wrote was luminous darkness and it kind of captures the idea even the darkest moment there is light. been able to find that

center in your life and stand and so forth. another when he wrote in his meditations of the heart stretch beyond and even and you cannot recognize that life is happening that new life is happening it is and it may be the smallest increments of growth that's going on so may not be a burst of but it is the small things that continue to structures for over. i thought also jesus and the disinherited sale were about that one. one of his classic books and in that book he raises the question about how god deals with and speaks to people who

are in disparaging situations of suffering. and raises the question about what does god have to do in the predicament of black people especially during the times of segregation and that kind of thing. he was addressed to that issue and looked at what the christian doctrine of love had to do with with that. people can respond in any number of ways to their predicament they can respond in hate and fear or silence are they can refuse to participate but the greatest response is that of love because love has the capacity to reconcile and bring people back to communion and so

he would want people who are dealing with difficult situations to always know that love is something that transcends and helps us to grow. " one of his plan to something like what does god say to a person that has they're back against a wall has always liked that one. in connection to that for you who know me and visually impaired the audience that doesn't euna lee i have an invisible disability called retinitis pigment to sever my vision is being compromised by disease in the back of my red snapper so i connect in with that dognut was just thinking about that in relation to people and have physical differences or special needs because you can feel very much like your back is against the wall and you can feel very much like god doesn't love you but then there's the

sense when people come together who extend their hands and arms around you to and power your cheerful self to say you are included and that love you and that's amasses message to jesus brings the matter who you are what your circumstance or physical difference you've known me over the ground of time that you can rise above those things and you can live life renewed and restored and with great hope. i was calling to say that knowing all those years but when i first met you didn't have the impairment. it was there but i was ashamed to tell anybody because i didn't know how people would treat me and i was really quite pained by it because i didn't know how i would live at been able to have 2020 vision so i hid it in decahydrate well because you couldn't tell and mr. canton to use see me this so? because they think i have a

cane as a prop. for those it suffer within a can be a duality of how do you make sense of it all and why it's come to me but again i say that love is what this year. love is what saves you and that's the message that i constantly drew on three people ministers of my life ever able to show me god's love in this and powering way. now your and our deign to elder. will be back in a minute but i wanted to tell us about your meeting michelle obama at the inauguration. join us as to celebrate easter.

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we've heard some tremendous testimonies from the to guess that i have with me. we left office carol talking about your visual impairment and how it's worked in the she's worked in her life. i'm signed up for its service and as i arrived to the robert f. kennedy stadium it was packed the one of the service workers summit coming anatomize sunglasses at the time and hours of my trusted came with me so they allowed me to go on to the special entrance in the past and i said of chorus and when i got in the workers sponsoring in the event some again come to the back door and asked if i wanted to go the line and beat michelle

obama and i have no idea she was there at that should already gone to a took her opportunity for me and my stick to it on the red carpet and probably the fourth person in she missed standing next to joe biden and i was enamored with the lights of looked up and there she was the issue is just as beautiful and person and she is an easier and television and explain to ride to lend them a clergyperson and i ask the fact a preferred she said yes and also asked that any time i thought of her are my colleagues to the turner family in prayer and it was a wonderful blessed moment. and i was getting ready to hug her i stuck the designers the secret service men and she said it's ok she reached over and give me a big hug slam of his pictures of it. a moment to be remembered for the rest of my life. i was there also but i tell people in a letter to an even danced with her and they say you .

new doctrine isn't howard thurman but your ordination process tell us about that. you come from baptist background. economic baptist tradition i grew up in alabama and that's where my folks originated in st. went to miami were actually grew up close to the time but i came at a fast tradition where parts of your family were pentecostal and parts were methodist empire were baptist and so that was that environment that i grew up with. when i met my wife and moved to to california she had been the united methodist and and so by that time having studied howard

thurman the central part of my faithless from the spirit and the spirit from me as something of which all the religious tradition to come so i welcome the opportunity to become a united methodist and i love the capacity for doing ministry beyond the local church and even beyond the country. of the ideas and the diversity of the religious tradition and of course the tremendous efforts that john wesley. caro you ought to do counseling. guests are working grief counseling because grief can be very heavy and hard issue that can hang on you especially after

the experience of death but grief could also occur through loss of jobs and relationship and a loss of physical ability. like with my eyesight so it is imperative that and some way that that payment be talked out and processed and worked out so it doesn't hang on the heart but you can experience the love of god and be renewed. looking at your resume u2 counseling to. comes linda also spiritual court coaching. it's relatively new and what it does this try to relate to people in terms of their spirituality and the nondenominational religious focus you could be specific but

meeting people of the core of their being and questions of a they are in their relationship with the entire presence in their life and to help people to make contact with that and could mean that that and grow into that so that it would impact their lives and serve as a resource for their lives. what's great about both of you is that you're telling your story that makes the easter message lives and the real and it's not something of a book. let's go for back for a moment in the few minutes we have here which say the texts that speak to easter message. you have the four counts maxima kucan john and paul talking about the resurrection what scriptures are most helpful and understanding the renewal. from reelect a passage in john and mary goes and discovers that the to is empty and the

whole scenario with angel come center tells are certain things and bites her and then jesus speaks to her. and for those transcendent moments jesus becomes rio for us and so it becomes rio linda haven't encountered with him and reno that to that encounter that jesus lives in the present and for ever. will wrap up the next segment that that was very helpful and let's come back to some of those thoughts and scriptures and the jesus and counter with not just mary beth peter and all of them. thanks for joining us and please be with us and our last segment.

watching milhaud's mosaic with the reverence this morning and mention scripture and during the break you mentioned the woman of the well to jesus in counter. to me it shows so much about 11 and the restoration because the woman came to the well, very heavy and she is a symbol of an individual so if you remove the gender coming to a place in one's life will have some much having a son your heart and a life and things of gone on in jesus meets her and make its full every time i talk about it appeared jesus offers her a gift without condemnation our judgment and without criticism adjusted gift of eternal life to this water that clinches the sold their stock and she

recognizes god through him in a moment and shifts and except sit. from that moment when you read the story she goes and her life is changed and so were others. i absolutely love that one. some final thoughts from you. we have to easter is the combination of lint and for me i go back to when jesus is baptized in the heavens opened up and god says this is my son so there is a connection that was made there that we can identify with in terms of ourselves and god and claiming god and god claiming us and then remove from their to the ministry that he gave in terms of living in connecting with people and serving. from there we go to have these

instrumental in changing the world to and transforming the way that we look at reality and become nubians. so for me that's all whole moments where the move from his baptism to his death and resurrection. wary going to go on july 1st? the july 1st and going to be becoming the pastor of st. mark's. i found out recently he was coming a largest excited that him would change as you know in

july and most of the their and the chaplain but we're excited about the appointments this time around. we look forward to a been there. thanks for joining us and this is been easter and the message is that death does not have the final word got has the final word and jesus our lord go for it can be resurrected.