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mike wallace was one of the most important figures in the television news. he died on saturday at the age of 93. >> his hard-nosed approach and set the tone for "60 minutes." his colleague morley safer looks back now at mike's remarkable life. >> reporter: he was doing what? >> with you. >> why? >> why? why are you so reluctant. >> reporter: for half a century he took on corrupt politicians and scam artists and bureaucratic people. you don't want to talk to me? his words by mike wallace is here. >> i don't understand. they must be ashamed of something. i'm nosy and insistent. >> reporter: so insistent there were very few 20th century icons who did not submit to a mike wallace interview. he lectures yasser arafat on

violence. he asked the ayatollah khomeini if he was crazy. >> he calls you, forgive me, his words, not mine, a lunatic. >> reporter: he traveled with martin luther king and he interviewed with malcolm x shortly before his assassination. >> no stranger to the white house interviewing his friends the reagans. there he was with john kennedy. with lyndon johnson. >> so you think that next time around. >> reporter: with jimmy carter and even eleanor roosevelt. >> make a choice. >> reporter: plus all of those remarkable characters. >> come on, mike! >> reporter: johnny carson. luciano and janis joplin and tina turner and barbra streisand. >> what are you trying to prove? >> nothing!

>> reporter: his take no prisoner style became so famous, he even spoofed it with comedian jack benny. >> i'm not going! i don't have to ask for anything! i don't! >> reporter: it's hard to believe but when mike was born in 1918, there wasn't even a radio in most of the american homes, much less tv. >> i was a pretty good kid. you know, i was -- i was -- i was and overachiever. i worked very hard. played a hell of a fiddle. >> reporter: at the university of michigan where his parents hoped he would become a doctor or lawyer, he got hooked instead on radio. by 1941, mike was the announcer on "the green hornet." >> ride as he races to another adventure. the green hornet strikes again! hello! i'm mike wallace with real news. ♪ ♪ hello everybody >> reporter: when television arrived in the 1950s, mike was everywhere. >> it's proctor and gamble's

golden fluffo. good evening. i'm mike wallace. the show is "nightbeat." >> reporter: first broadcast in 1956 that mike remembers fitting like custom made brass knuckles. >> what do you know about that? who in the united states is qualified? what kind of people are you afraid of? we decided let's ask the abrasive, who gives a damn question. >> "60 minutes" volume one. >> reporter: he brought his persona a persona. >> wait just a moment. >> hold it a minute. >> reporter: mike loved to mix it up with producers, editors, even his fellow correspondents. >> i mean, we were colleagues and competitors at the same time. it's been a very bumpy and satisfying road. >> that's exactly right. >> reporter: it was 65 years from mike's first appearance on

camera, a world war ii film for the navy. >> what are you waiting for? >> reporter: to his last television appearance. >> do you think people are going to believe you? >> reporter: a "60 minutes" interview with roger clemens. >> never anabolic ssteroids? >> never. >> reporter: mike's all-time favorite interview was the one with another legend, pianist vladimir horowitz. for mike, a red, white, and blue kind of guy, horowitz played "the stars and stripes forever." it almost brought tears to the toughest guy on television. ♪ >> astonishing what you learn and feel and see along the way. that's why a reporter's job, as

you know, is such a joy. ♪ >> reporter: morley safer is here with steve kroft. welcome. in your own words, tell me the essence of mike wallace. >> competitive beyond belief and, at the same time, i'm sure -- unsure of himself. >> unsure of himself? this confident, tough? >> mike always felt that he had not paid his dues as a journalist and i think it's one of the things that made him such a tough guy, out to prove himself on every story, every day. and it's what -- and he was relentless at times. and he has confessed it to a lot of people, including me, that --

that that uncertainty or that even perhaps shame of having done commercials and silly stuff haunted him. >> performer, i think. a great journalist. he became a great journalist, as good as anyone. but he had this ability to make people want to watch him and listen to him, and he was really, i think, the first great television news performer. and he came from a long background. he started in that period of time where there was a very fuzzy line between news and journalism. but he demanded to be watched and, you know, also this combination that he had of guile and gull. he was not afraid to ask the outrageous question and what is made him great. you never knew what was coming

wh next. >> i never had the honor of meeting him and a kick watching the three of you. you would see moments of mike wallace. i'm so surprised, morley, when you said he was unsure of himself. he seemed to thrive on those -- he said there is no such thing as an indiscrete question. >> he was out to prove himself on every story every day. the other thing that should be said, i absolutely agree with what steve said, he is that would charm people. he would charm people into that chair and he loved villains. >> picking up on what steve said, too. he could make the question as interesting as the answer. >> more interesting generally. nobody remembers what the ayatollah khomeini answered to mike's question, but, you know, sometimes, quite honestly, you have to ask the right -- you have to ask questions. >> even though you know you're not getting an answer. >> right. you have to run the answer. >> "60 minutes" would still not be on the air but for mike. i think people started to tune in to us in big numbers back in

the late '70s and early '80s to see what mike wallace was going to be up to next. no question in my mind that he is really the -- along with, don hewlett, the real founder. people want to know what adventure mike is going to go on next. >> he would send reporters out in search of stories and go tell a story, he said with success of "60 minutes." there is also this. he loved the interesting people, even though he was not a politician. he loved horowitz. he loved the people that somehow he could find out what made them tick to be famous. >> absolutely. and he hung with a pretty lofty crowd in new york. >> a nice way to put it.

>> so he knew everyone. >> yeah. >> he had known them for 40 years. this was somebody. think about it. how many people parody odd the sid cesar show and "the simpsons"? >> at dinner he would do the same thing on television. >> absolutely. >> what do you mean, charlie? >> he would ask questions and he would see one person' put them against the other person. there was also the famous forgive me too. >> yes. >> where you knew something tough was coming when he started to say knorr give forgive me. >> not my words. >> forgive me. the competition between you guys, did it ever create friction between you? >> are you kidding? >> that's what we call a leading question. >> i don't know how much friction there would have been if mike hadn't have been there. it was like mike was so geared up and so competitive that you

had to, if you wanted anything left on the plate, you had to be tough. >> he described himself as being prickly when it came to competing against his colleagues for a story. >> no. >> not prickly? >> too kind. >> is that too kind? >> mike was never. we were neighbors for 37 years, 38 years. >> meaning his office was next to your office? >> next to mine and steve is now in that office. there were a couple of years we didn't talk to each other. you communicated through other people. >> why was that? >> well, mike -- how do i put this? >> yeah, how do you put this? mike would steal a story. >> steve, would he steal stories? >> oh, absolutely. i always thought that the worst thing losing the story to mike was actually getting a story from mike on the rare occasion that it happened, because the

retribution would last for six weeks. >> wow! >> there are also these interesting difficult times he had after the westmoreland and coming back finding himself again after those difficult times. >> well, he went through a few difficult times, as you know. i think that's when mike, yes, when mike decided that he wanted to do something that was important, that was satisfying. and that could use his ingenuine talents as a journalist despite his doubts about himself. everybody else knew he was terrific. and he was never fully certain that he was. and i think that's what accounted for this unbelievable competitiveness, that he was going to go out and prove i'm as

good as anybody in this racket. and i used to tell him, mike, you're better than everybody in this racket! >> you know what is so interesting to me? when they by of "60 minutes" we think of a hit show. for a time the show did not do well. >> don hewlett used to say we did a white hat and a black hat. harry was the white hat and mike was the black hat and i was a white hat. >> stay with us. i want to introduce bob schieff schieffer. next sunday, "60 minutes" will broadcast a special tribute to mike. but bob schieffer is coming up now. bob, can you hear us? >> i can. >> remember our colleague mike wallace for us as we sit here with morley and steve and gayle. >> well, it's been fun for me just listening to morley talk about mike way back there, and steve. you know, those of us in hard news, what people don't understand about a big organization like ours, there

are separate and all of the folks at "60 minutes" are all over here and all of us covering the daily news were over in another place and we didn't come together all that much. listening to them, i think it might have been easier to be a friend of mike wallace if you weren't competing with him! every day for those stories. but he was such a wonderful person. and he was such a great newsman. i was very interested in what morley said about he was never sure of himself. but aren't all of the great ones that way? i played a lot of sports in my life growing up and i never knew anybody in sports who took it for granted. the guy who hit the home runs was the one who always said, if i don't hit a home run this time, they are not going to think i'm very good and that is exactly the way mike wallace was. but, you know, the thing that i will always remember, 1976, ronald reagan was challenging gerald ford for the republican nomination. we all got to kansas city.

we didn't know whif ford was gog to get it. i was on some kind of a panel with mike before that and i was giving him a ride back to the hotel. he said to me, and he was always a needler. you would see mike and sims he would say have you put on a couple of pounds? or something like that. but we're in the car with him. and he came back and he said, you know, bob, you really know this story. i can remember that as if it were yesterday. mike wallace gave me a compliment. i still remember it, and it meant so much to me to know that somebody as good as mike wallace thought that maybe i knew something about the story i was covering. >> interesting. he was unique. i've never met anybody quite like him. >> the interesting story too is ronald reagan offered him the job or wanted him to be his press secretary. i'm sorry, friends with -- absolutely right, nixon.

he said i couldn't leave. i can't imagine having to sugar coat a story. >> can i say something? >> yes, please, bob, go ahead. >> can i just say something about that? because i was thinking about that. you know, journalist's favorite game is playing what if. what if mike wallace had taken that job? this was 1968, this was before that awful convention that the democrats would later have in chicago, and mike wallace was offered the job as richard nixon's press secretary. what if he had taken that job? would nixon have gone on to -- >> he would have been impeached. >> no, mike wallace had been someone that knew so much about journalism that he said, don't do these things. i just wonder what if. >> encourage him to find out what the truth was immediately and let it all hang out. you said he was the best. why was he the best, steve? >> oh, he was just a great

interviewer. had he a knack for asking questions, for framing questions. and he was quick and cunning. and he really knew how to get under somebody's skin. and i think in the interviews he always tried to do that. i think -- take a look at the khomeini interview. i think his modus operandi was to ask a few questions that put completely off balance and then once he had them off balance, to really try and get inside their head. >> as fa

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oklahoma shooting spree are dow in security to face first degree murder charges. three people were killed, two wounded on friday. >> this is a racially charged case. the victims are black and the suspects are white. anna, good morning. >> good morning. and good morning to our viewers in the west. it was a frightening two days here for residents, especially african-american residents until the two suspects were caught early "sunday morning" after say 48-hour manhunt by police. . police chief chuck jordan said the credit for sunday's arrest goes in large part to the tulsa community. >> we were desperate for leads. that's why we made some very, very pointed requests of our community to come forward, and they did. >> 19-year-old jake england and his 32-year-old roommate, alvin watts, were found holed up in a trailer north of tulsa. police won't speculate on a motive for the crime. but england's background speaks

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he's also now a major champion. 33-year-old bubba watson from florida won golf's biggest event from an extraordinary out of the hook shot on the second hole of a sudden death playoff. after, even he was stunned. >> i never got this far in my dreams. >> reporter: watson, who says he's never had one golf lesson his whole life, it's been an incredible up and down journey. he was three strokes back entering the final round coming back thanks to four straight birdies on the back nine. he finished second in his previous best shot in a major at the pga in 2010, while his father, who passed away later that year, was battling cancer. only two weeks ago, watson became a father for the first time. adopting a son named caleb. in an often button-down sport

this personality has cried often at the end of tournaments, with good reason, de it again on sunday. >> this day means so much more than putting on this green jacket. in many ways. >> reporter: the second place finisher, south africa's oosthuizen was classy in defeat. phil mickelson, who made a brilliant run on saturday, put himself out of contentious with a triple bogey on sunday. and tiger woods finished 15 strokes back. highly disappointing tournament for him, following high expectations. for now, all the attention remains on watson. he wore the same outfit four days in a row at the masters, white and pink. he may want to keep that on forever. >> jeff glor joins us. what a great masters. i mean, it had everything you could possibly want. >> it was brilliant and exciting and so many players involved at the end. such a treat to see bubba watson

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yesterday a special journey got under way to honor those lost at sea. for the 1309 passengers sailing to new york on the rmsmorel. >> we want to relive the ship of dreams. >> reporter: almost 100 years ago from this port in southampton, england, the titanic set off on her maiden voyage. the rest is history. a memorial cruise set sail yesterday to pay tribute. >> my grandfather, alexander james littlejohn was a first class steward on the titanic. >> reporter: many are board are direct descend ants of passengers. >> he was in life boat 13. he hielped to get it filled. >> my great uncle lost his life. his body never recovered. he gave his life jacket to othe. >> titanic is morning just a

ship. it's 225 individual stories. some of which we still haven't learned. and although, perhaps, four generations have passed, the family lore and the family recollection of their loved one's involvement in this story has caused them to do all kinds of researching into the background of their loved one. >> reporter: tracy has the honor of helping a total stranger. >> a third class passenger and he was a honeymooner bringing his wife back to the united states. so, he has no children, no family to commemorate him, so i'm doing that. >> reporter: the 12-day cruise recreates the titanic's fateful routes. first off was cherbourgh, france, then ireland and then out to the site of the ship wreck where they'll hold a vigil, and then heading to halifax, canada, and then the final port, new york city. >> to complete the trip that so

many didn't make. we're going to finish that trip for them. >> reporter: guests will enjoy some luxury that was supposed to define the titanic experience. >> there will be a titanic dish on every meal we serve, titanic band on board as well as fantastic lineup of world class lecturer. >> reporter: commodore warrick who says modern ships old their lives to the 100-year-old tragedy. >> a lot of good came out of it. ships were more like life boats, they introduced the international ice patrol and introduced 24-hour radio watch pkeeping. >> reporter: technology that should provide a safe journey for those aboard, so passengers can recount and redmrekt. >> it's a chance to remember what grandfather did 100 years ago, and also to remember those people that weren't as fortunate as him. >> reporter: that need to remember is clearly strong. passengers are drawn from 28 countries and some paid up to $9,500 to join the cruise.

tomorrow is the day the titanic actually left from here, and i'll be live from the dock from where it set sail. >> thank you, reporting live from england. why do you think, charlie, 100 years later it's so fascinating? i went to see the movie yesterday. >> how was it in 3d? >> the movie still hold up after all these years. i'm still fascinated, too. >> you just heard the story of a man who gave up his life jacket so that a woman would survive. those kind of stories, also stories of cowardness and stories of human spirit rising to the occasion. >> yeah. and james cameron will be here later this week. can't wait to talk to him. time now for this morning's "healthwatch" with dr. holly phillips. >> good morning. in today's "healthwatch," chocolate may make you thinner. you would never consider it to be a diet food but a recenty study shows those who eat moderate amount on a regular basis are thinner.

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♪ are you afraid of what might happen to you as a result of making these revelations? >> oh, yes. i am probably a dead man already. >> we are doing a profile -- >> i'm answering the questions. how many more times must i answer? >> there's been much talk in recent years of style and charisma. no one suggests that either you our your opponent, hubert humphrey, have a good deal of it. that's not very nice. what you're saying. >> but it's the way i feel. and i think it's true. >> and he calls you, imam, forgive me, his words, not mine, a lunatic. you haven't answered the question, mr. president. you would love to control this piece. >> absolutely. are you kidding? we're remembering mike

wallace after his death over the weekend. it was clear he was not afraid to ask the indiscreet question. it is 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> and i'm charlie rose. erica hill is taking a well deserved day off. billionaire warren buffett struck a nerve last year when he said that america's wealthiest people should not have a lower tax rate than the middle class. now senate democrats are pushing for a vote next week on the buffett rule, a proposed tax hike for people who make more than $1 million a year. new york senator chuck schumer is a prime mover behind the proposal. senator, good morning. >> good morning. welcome to our table. >> nice to be here. >> welcome. >> it's good to have you here. just for purposes of explanation, explain the buffett rule. because everybody talks about it, and we know that the essence of it, but what is it? >> well, it's very simple. first, if you're a very wealthy person, we have nothing against them, god bless them, they made a lot of money, but you have the opportunity to take advantage of certain tax breaks that average

people don't. and as a result, a large percentage of people who make lots of money, millions and millions of dollars a year, pay an actual tax rate of 15%, 20, 22%. >> of course, the income is from vests rather than ordinary income. >> investments or they take advantage of capital gains and dividends account for a lot of it. but other deductions too. there are all kinds of deductions. there's a whole industry of accountants and lawyers who do this. so we're simply saying that 30% should be the minimum for all income over $1 million. there's one exception in the bill that senator white has, our leader, which is charitable deduction. we still want to encourage very wealthy people to give to charitable. but everything else, there's a 30% floor for only income over $1 million. the first million goes by the regular rules. >> do you believe it will, a, create jobs, or, b, reduce the

inequality gap in america? >> look, one of our great problems in america, which people don't focus on enough, is that middle class incomes have actually gone down, median income went down over the last decade, but the income of people who are in the top 1% or .01% has gone way up. and this bill is a question of fairness, making people believe in the code, and it brings in some revenues. no question about it. >> sitting in that very chair recently was the mayor of this great city. >> michael bloomberg. >> i'll show you. here's what he said. >> i think the rich have to pay more, but we all have to pay more. if you just raise taxes on the rich, you only raise the minimum amount of money. most of this country is middle class. and that's where most of the tax revenue is. so if you want to raise $4 trillion over the next 10 years, which gets you halfway, only halfway, to a balanced budget, everybody's taxes have to go up. >> your response, senator? >> well, i love mike, and i love

the halfway. but it is true that the high-end people are not the whole answer to the problem. but they are gaining a greater and greater percentage of income. it's not -- it's no longer that they are just, you know, for instance, the top i believe 1% in income made 23% of the income last year. so you do get some money. but it's also a question of fairness. for the average family who is struggling right now, their income is going down to at least think the system is on the level, they should be paying less than the people who make the highest income. in terms of job creation, you asked about that. >> yeah. >> you know, at minimum, it brings in $47 billion. now if you put that money into, for instance, keeping student loans at a low rate, there are 3.4% now, they are going up to 6.8%, you create a lot of jobs over the next five years. if you put the money into building highways, roads and bridges, which many of our

colleagues in the house are stopping, you create a lot of jobs. so you don't want to do more deficit spending. and you have to find the money somewhere, and this is a logical place to do it. but no question, bloomberg is right. it doesn't answer the whole question. that's not an argument against it. you have to start somewhere. >> but the notion that it's politicized that, targeting the ultrarich is a campaign strategy. >> this is such a bogus argument. we have believed as a country that higher income people should pay a higher percentage of income since the 16th amendment, which was 1912. it came in with woodrow wilson and the progressives. and, you know, some of the people who i guess believe that wealth is the way to get this economy going is reduce taxes on the wealthiest people make that argument, but there's no class warfare involved. it's a question simply of fairness. and the bottom line is, most wealthy people i talk to say, yes, i shouldn't pay a lower rate than somebody who is my secretary.

some, and they are very powerful, and that article in "the new york times" talks about them, say, i don't want to pay any taxes. but they are a small group. they have disproportionate influence obviously with the super pacs. >> let's talk about excess baggage fees. i was fined recently. i was asked to pay $25. and i started thinking, what is this covering again? i understand that you disagree too with the baggage fees because -- >> well, look what's happened is there is competition in the airlines because of the internet. and you can go on and find out the best cost. so they try to hide the fees in other places. >> not so hidden. >> but when you go online, they'll say the price of the ticket is $300. now, for each bag you carry on it's another $50, that raises the price a lot. so the only thing we're asking for right now -- i have asked all the airlines to make a commitment not to charge for

carry-on baggage. the big airlines to their credit have made that commitment. but the smaller airlines are doing it. we can't stop them. i don't think we should pass legislation for this. all we want is the ftc to require disclosure. when they say the cost is $300, plus $50 a bag, and let people make their own decision. >> "new york times," you mentioned this a couple of times, with an eye on the general election, super pacs aim at obama. are we looking at not only the most expensive but also perhaps the dirtiest campaign we have seen? >> you know, these super pacs -- the republicans don't have much going for them right now. >> well, the president has a super pac, as you know. >> he does. he just had it. if he had his way, there will be no super pacs. but the people on the other side are not saying that, so he's not disarmi disarming. but the tilt of the election is moving in our direction. we are focusing on middle class problems, the problems that matter to people.

the republicans are moving to the right and ceding to us. when you alienate the fastest-growing group in america, hispanics, and the largest group in america, women, you're in bad shape. the one thing that the republicans have going for them are these super pacs. they are poetent. and why they are potent, you hit the nail on the head, charlie. because so much of the money doesn't have to be disclosed or can be disguised through some

th there is there is one day a week when you should never, ever, ever order fish. peter greenberg is here with the five not so tasty things your water won't tell you. and steve harvey told us how to act like a lady and think like a man in a book. now he's taking that wisdom to the big screen. he'll be live in studio 57. you are watching "cbs this morning." ♪ [ jennifer ] better.

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♪ i need love love to ease my mind ♪ back in 1893 the supreme court was asked to decide, is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable in plant experts will tell you it's a fruit but the high court ruled unanimously that the tomato was a vegetable because that's how the public treats it.

that tidbit comes from our friends at mental floss. those of us who diet on a regular basis say, for sure, tomato is a vegetable. >> i like the veggie call. >> i do, too. as we looked around the web this morning we found a few reasons to "make a long story short." the l.a. t "american idol" or dream girls or if they belonged to weight watchers. this cannot be an easy day according to britain's "daily mail," the number of women marrying down has gone up. a new study found that because women are better paid than before, they marry for love, not social standing. take the queen's granddaughter, she married a rugby player. >> gasp. >> is that a bad thing? seriously.

one british man may have fathered more than, listen to this number, 600 babies. >> goodness. >> wow. bernard wisener started a fertility: clinic in the 1940s. he do nignated more than half oe sperm. the practice is now outlawed. the white house will hold its easter egg roll today. more than 35,000 people will gather on the south lawn. can you fit that many people on the south lawn? >> they'll figure it out. >> this year's theme, let's go, let's play, let's move. no candy? >> no. >> maybe a jellybean. jet ready for the next great reality show. it's a show about bacon. it stars the so-called bacon boys, justin and dave, that has a company that specializes in bacon tasting stuff. their goal is to make everything taste like bacon. they are best known for creating bacon salt. and yahoo.com has viral

video of one crafty cat. >> our cat, oscar, is a super sneak. he learned how to open the freezer and get frozen fish sticks. >> all right. here it is. oscar pulls open -- well, climbs up, pulls open the freezer door, swings back. and then gets the fish sticks out. oscar can get the fish sticks out. the owners now have to lock the freezer to keep oscar out. >> so many viral videos are like watching people's home movies, but i think oscar swinging in the air is kind of funny. >> i haven't had fish sticks in so long. >> no. and i think i'll pass on that today. did you order the and of the day at your favorite restaurant? fish sticks perhaps? find out why it may not be so special when peter greenberg

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our travel editor peter greenberg has eaten in the world's greatest and not so greatest restaurants in his journeys. >> and he'll tell you five things your waiter will not tell you. >> good morning, former bus boy. >> my first job ever. i'm taking my wife to dinner tonight. we should not get grilled fish? >> monday is the one day you don't want to order fish because the restaurants don't get their deliveries today. they got them on friday, which also applies to the shell fish you may not want to order yesterday. the other issue, when you ask your waiter, is fish fresh? the technical answer is, yes, it's fresh frozen. came fresh from the freezer.

so -- >> they leave out the frozen part. >> you wonder why fish restaurants aren't open on monday in that's why. >> the other thing i like to know is the specials. when you're taking your wife out to celebrate their ninth anniversary -- >> we're taking everything off the menu tonight. >> what is the special? >> the special may not be that special because a lot of times with stews and casseroles they're putting ingredients in there they couldn't move three days ago. so, stay away from the stews and casseroles if you're ordering a special. >> new york city is a huge brunch land, as gayle knows well. why should we -- all of us, why should we stay away from brunch? >> no, things are amazing but a lot you see at a brunch, they make platters are also things that didn't sell during the week and you have to be careful about that. plus on sunday brunches a lot of hotel restaurants when they say it's eggs, unless you see them cooked to order, they're made from a powder. just so you know. >> i'm wondering, why would a waiter tell us this stuff.

>> of course, that's why i'm here. vegetarians? >> not everything claimed to be vegetarian is. this is an example where the waiter may not tell you because he may not know. this is a situation where a lot of things are cooked in beef stock like french onion soup or fried foods may be cooked in animal lard. if you're a veg tapetarian, thaa no-no. >> i found the last point fascinating. it's about coffee. >> late at night, about the only thing that's usually available in coffee is decaf, whether you like it or not. unless you fresh brew it, you're getting decaf. >> do people like you doing these five things they don't want us to know? >> don't you like me doing it? >> i like it. >> there you go. >> but if i'm a waiter, i might be irritated. >> the educated waiter will get customers that keep coming back. >> we'll show up at the restaurant tonight and they'll tell us to go back.

>> thank you. steve haefb knows more than five things about what makes m,,

>> could morning. the san francisco's cyclists who fatally hit a pedestrian in the castro district has hired it popped wofford. witnesses claimed that the suspect ran several red lights. any potential charges could be upgraded to felonies. a 17 year-old is in police custody after running down several bike riders in concord this weekend. a man and his daughter were killed when a teenager lost control of an s-u-v. he is now facing charges of vehicular manslaughter. relatives of titanic's passengers are among the more than 1300 people aboard a memorial crews. they left england yesterday to retrace the infamous voyage.

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>> we are seeing some extra busy conditions as you work your way in and out of san francisco. brake lights here and there as a worker way northbound. elsewhere, it looks like we're still a bit busy along 580. traffic sluggish through there

as well as through the altamont pass but it looks like the drive times aren't proving just a bit. the san mateo bridge has been a bright spot all morning. the golden gate bridge continues to be a nice ride into san francisco and alpine road is still closed due to down wires. >> you can put away your umbrella for one more day, the start of the workweek looks pretty dry. temperature's mainly in the 40's and low 50s. 47 in places like oakland and concord. we're warming up to the upper 60s or very low seventies later this afternoon. the rain returns tuesday through the end of the workweek. ,,

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springsteen at the garden on friday night, where i have to say, the song "dancing in the dark," he pulled his mom out of the audience. she's 80-something. pulled his mom out of the pas you see, they danced at madison square garden. at one point he picked her up and twirled her around.

goshgs i love a guy that loves his mom. mrs. springsteen did a really good job. welcome back to "cbs this morning." actor, median and radio host steve harvey became a best selling author when he advised women to act like a lady but think like a man. >> now that book has inspired a new movie called "think like a man." >> steve, i keep hooking up with guys who don't want a relationship. >> why don't you stop hooking up. >> did you hear that? >> men respect women who have standards. just get some. >> oh! >> steve, i'm a partner in my law firm. i own my own home but i've been single for three years. why can't i find a man to live up to my starnsdz? >> you make six figures. does he have to? >> yes. >> do you own your own home. does he have to yes? >> yes and yes. >> steve harvey, good morning. i remember when the book came out. we were all -- a lot of us were carrying it around with little dog ears on it say, see this

part, see this part. welcome. you said that you know many things but you're an expert in being a man. >> that's really it. >> what does that mean? >> look, you know, people got to put labels on everything so they've come up with this, he's a relationship expert. no guy is a relationship expert. i'm an expert at one thing and that's being a man. you want to know how to be a man, me and jeff can help you out. you want to know how to be in a relationship, we're not very smart at that. >> this is a twist, though, on the book. in what way? >> well, you know, i think that it captured it really, really smartly except they took about five different -- they took four different couples out of the book that were premises in the book like the 90-day rule, you know, the strong, independent, lonely woman. >> what is the 90-day rule. >> it's very simple. >> i like this. >> it was very simple. i lot work for a company for 90 days to take part in benefits, same thing at post office,

fedex. a woman who has the greatest benefit package of them all should wait 90 days before they start passing out benefits. >> i actually think that that's a really good rule but i was having a conversation with some of the younger women in the office and they said to me they think the 90-day rule is antiquated. three dates is good. >> three? >> yeah, actually -- >> three? >> 20-something women said to me, three dates. >> i said, shouldn't it be at least ten. somebody said to me, steve, i could be dead in ten. i could be dead in ten. >> wow. >> do you think maybe you're out of touch with the times of today? about the 90-day rule? >> i like it. >> i do, too. >> look, 90 days is nothing when you're talking about a relationship. >> i totally agree. >> you're trying to get into a relationship with a guy for an extended period of time. if you want hit it and quit it relationships knock it down to nine days and you can be as successful as you've already been. >> knock it down to one. >> yeah. you can do one-night stands and those relationships don't hardly ever last. what's wrong?

it's only three months. you could still date the guy. >> i believe you. >> you just don't pass yourself -- i wrote this book for my daughters. look, i got four daughters. i'm a dad. and i've done everything in this book. and, buddy, it really does work, you know. >> you said that men like confident women, independent women, but they don't like needy women. but you also say men like to be protective. so, isn't there a part of a man that likes a woman who's a little needy? >> yeah, yeah. needy but not needy as in you're pulling my coat sleeve off all day. i want you to need me. honey, can you do this? you're so big and strong. a guy likes a woman to feel like -- make him feel like he's needed. but we don't want you to be needy. make me happy, make me smile, weigh me, you know. how do i -- am i too fat? you can't ask a guy that, you know. >> i got it. >> you know, it takes a while to learn the answers to all of that. >> sir, you have been married

three times. you're qualified because -- >> yeah, yef, your point is? >> he's raising -- >> i'm on water, very simple. >> he's raising a good point, steve harvey. >> well, failure is a wonderful teacher. i mean, i failed enough times to know how to get it right. i know all the mistakes i made. i know all the mistakes women allowed me to make. and i put them in a book for you. so, you know, i mean, look -- >> i like that part, women allowed to you make the mistake? >> yeah, women allowed me to make a lot of these mistakes. >> because you say women, we teach people how to treat us. >> if you don't have your standards intact and you lout me to come in and exact mind and you come up on the short end, that's really my fault now? >> so it's their fault? >> maybe you just shouldn't be a jerk, steve harvey. i'm not talking about you, but men shouldn't be a jerk. >> they shouldn't.

but men can be taught proper behavior. men can be required to have proper behavior. and that falls the responsibility on a woman. if you don't want to be treated like a jerk, don't allow a guy to treat you like a jerk. that's what the book talked about. that's what the movie goes into, empowering women. a lot of women take, you know, a lot of fault with some of the things i say. if you look at it and talk to real men, it proves out to be true. >> and real men, regardless of your ethnicity, black, white, this is relatable for everybody, i thought. >> you know, and that's the success of the movie, too. even though the predominant men's of the cast are african-americans, this moveie s not written culturally. it's for men and women. we are all the exact same. don't matter what color -- look, we're not very tender, we're not great communicators.

i don't care who you are. >> we're not very tender. >> you're not. >> that's true. >> if you are -- >> it is true. >> yeah, he's not tender. >> he's celebrating his ninth anniversary. i think he's got something. >> we are going to dinner. a nice dinner. >> well, hi nine of them too at one time. >> i love the pocket story. >> you love that? >> i do. >> continued success to you, mr. harvey. >> i love you, gayle. you're great on this show. you look wonderful. >> thanks. i'm having a great time. "think like a man" is the name of the movie. hits all bases. >> i'm tender. >> i happen to think he's tender. hits theaters on april 20th, next friday. nicholas sparks is not a hollywood guy but seven of hits books have -- >> he's tender. >> he's extremely tender. we'll talk with him about that and what he thinks of the 90-day rule and a lot more.,,

i like philosophy.

>> really? yeah, i like to read. >> quote your favorite philosopher. >> sometimes the questions are complicated and answers are simple. >> don't tell me. voltare? it is, isn't it? >> it's dr. seuss. >> the new movie "the lucky one" is based on a nicholas sparks best seller, a marine searching for a woman he believes was his good luck charm serving in i iraq. >> he writes the kind of love stories translating well onto the big screen. he joins us here, broadcast house. it's good to see you. >> good to see you. >> it's like old home week here. >> it really is. >> i don't know if you heard steve harvey talking about the 90-day rule. as someone who writes about love stories, did you hear the 90-day rule? >>dy. >> okay.

you know what my next question is for you, charlie rose, speak into the microphone. >> you're going to the wrong person. >> okay. the 90-day rule he says, when you're dating, that the 90-day rule should be observed. as one who writes great love stories, by the way, what do you think? >> i think it's great because i have daughters. i think it's tough, though, in in day and age. i don't think -- a lot of times, to meet a guy who will -- >> who will wait 90 days. >> may not be -- may not always be possible. doesn't necessarily reflect a very bad person either, you know. i think if you meet the right person, you know, i met my wife on monday. i told her that we would get married on tuesday. the very next day. >> the day after you met her? >> the day after i met her. we've been married for 23 years. we have five children. >> how did you know she was the one? >> you know, we had so much -- we had so much in common. she was incredibly smart. she's kind. she had a great sense of humor.

but all the big things in life, we had the same views on all thesis, you know, do you want to have kids, live in the city, do you want to be at home when the kids are little, same kind of, you know, older brother, younger sister. just this whole thing. so, we just had a lot in common. >> i love the family dynamic he has. >> north carolina. >> yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> why? >> yeah, why. i like north carolina. >> charlie is from there. >> i like the change -- i like the culture. i like the pace of life. i'm a small town guy. i think it's a wonderful place to raise a family but it's also -- you know, it's got this -- you're right at that median where you can change the way -- you get all the change of season, right? you get the change of seasons but not too cold, not too hot. it's kind of the best of all these worlds. it's a great place to write novels. >> i like north carolina. >> her son went to duke. >> very nice. >> i like "the lucky one". >> is it the same for you

writing all these novels? i mean, how do you go about it? >> oh, my gosh. when you take something like "the lucky one" or any of my novels, it's pretty much the same thing. my first decision is i start with the age of the characters because it will inform dilemmas. if you're writing about young people, for instance, you know that it was probably the fi time they're ever falling in love, right, but if you write about someone in their 40s, let's say, well, maybe they've had a relationship, maybe they haven't. they've been married, divorced. you have all these things. you start with the age and you start piecing together ideas. for this one "the lucky one" i had this idea of this -- i started with his age, in the 20s, eastern north carolina, that says military, among other options, finds this photograph and he -- he begins to -- he thinks it saved his life and he has to find the reason for that. >> not every writer wants to be involved in the script process, in the hollywood process. you, generally speaking, want to be involved in that process. why? >> yeah. well, there's -- number one,

it's fun, right? gets me out of the house, otherwise i'm always homebound writing novels. you want to make sure they do a good job with the script and the casting and the director. so, i'm certainly involved. i talk -- >> you're very involved. >> that's the fun part of what i do. the key though, it's funny, is to not be too involved. you really have to know when to pull back -- >> isn't that hard with your work? >> yes. >> hard not to be too involved because it's yours? >> yes. but it's the challenge. if i get too involved, what happens is "the lucky ones" ends up being too close to "dear john" or "message in a bottle" or "a walk to remember." you want to allow the creative people, actors, directors, producers to put their stamp on it so all these films feel differently. you can enjoy "the lucky one" and you could have enjoyed "the song" -- >> but it's now their story. >> but if they want to work with me again, you know, i -- look, i

work with really good people. >> they to want make you happy. >> you're exact tli rigly right first one. have you no right whatsoever. i've been around for a long time and i have a lot of good relationships -- >> zac efron was a surprise to me. i see him as "high school musical" but, number one, he looks the part, sounded the part. did you have any say in casting zac efron? >> was he your choice? >> absolutely. it wasn't -- >> cow know about them before you write them, potentially? >> i was looking for someone -- in talking to the other producer, we were looking for someone the right age, 24, 25, you want someone who's been in front of the camera before a whole bunch of things he's going to work to and you wanted someone who was -- who was just a genuinely nice guy. >> have you gotten to the point you're thinking movie when you start writing the book? >> i kind -- i'm pretty aware, yeah, i'm pretty aware they're going to be filmed. but really all that does is it raises the bar because now i just -- i don't only have to be original as far as novels go, it

also has to be original for film. so, you have to kind of know what's going on. for instance, i could never write a love story like "sweet home alabama" or a love story set on the titanic because even though they weren't books -- >> "love story". >> whole another conversation. >> that's a whole other conversation. >> thank you very much. best on to your wife. >> yes. i love they still have date nights. >> great. "the lucky one" opens in theaters next friday, april 20th. >> so does steve harvey's movie opens. >> up against each other. >> you have to go to both of them, tv viewers. an brad meltzer talks about how he chooses 55 heroes for his daughter. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

brad good morning there. brad meltser is known to tv viewers as the host of "decoded." readers know him as authors of best sellers like "the inner circle." >> and his new book, "heroes for my daughter" has examples of men and women that are good examples for his little girl. when she was born you said -- >> i said i'm going to write a book that lasts her whole life. i'm going to fill it with good stories and make her a good woman. i did something for my son. >> although the book for your daughter was bigger. >> after two years she said where the heck's my book. and started with heroes like sally rye, the famous astronaut. why did she get picked?

some say it's because she was a physics genius, others say it was because she was fearless. the truth was she saw an ad in a college newspaper and she grabbedit. i tell my daughter all the time, i want her to learn that lesson. here's her collection of heroes to ameliaer heart, to christopher reeves. >> to the three stoojs. i understand, rosea parks and then the three stoojs. >> my wife hates the three stoogs. they were the first people to take on hitler. almost two years before pearl harbor. these three jewish men. i love that thy stood up to the bully. >> let me read from you, women are not weaker. read that again, women are not weaker, they're just as strong, just as resolute and filled with

just as much potential as any man, yes, as your father my instinct is to protect you. remember, you're not a damsel in distress waiting for some prince to rescue you. forget the prince. with your brain and resourcefulness, you can rescue yourself. >> when i did the book, my publisher said there's a problem. i use the word fighter in the dalai lama's entry, he's a pacifist and i call him a fighter. i want her to learn how to fight. when she sees something she should fight for it. when she sees injustice she should fight harder than before. i tell my daughter all the time, don't be the princess waiting for the prince to rescue you. you can rescue yourself. >> that was my favorite line, too. >> it's just beautiful. >> whether you have daughters or sons. it's just so beautiful.

your day job, we should say is writing political thrillers, national security thrillers, you consult for the department of homeland security. >> i get calls, when the department of homeland security said we want you to come in and brainstorm for terrorist attacks. i thought, if they're calling me, we have bigger problems. >> but you went to the meeting. >> i did go to them and i love doing it. the hero stories are unsung heroes. my favorite hero in the book is my grandmother. she recently died -- in fact, the book comes out on what would have been her 94th birthday. when my granddaughter lost her grandfather they said she'd never go on. and she went blind, she had nothing, but because she had family she thought she had everything. the last page is blank, it says your hero's photo and story here.

you write that hero -- >> hero's for my daughter. >> another,,,,,,,,,,,,

>> investigators are searching for the vandals spray-painted racial slurs in san francisco's sunset district. the graffiti was found yesterday on homes near 27th avenue and lincoln street. the l.a. police failing to meet the demand for all of this weekend. a surge of calls for request on friday meant officers did not answer non-emergency calls. the department says it will try to " mitigate future occurrences ". tough budget issues a wait state lawmakers as they returned from spring recess. pension reform, high-speed rail and cuts to well for are among the biggest debates. here is elisabeth with the

forecast >> a lot of clouds out the door to start off with but by this afternoon we are expecting sunny skies, blue skies and temperatures climbing to the upper 60s to low seventies. 65 in san rafael dan 66 degrees later today in san francisco. it looks like we stay dry for the start of the workweek and the rain returns on tuesday. showers through the end of the workweek with sunny skies be

>> still busy out there this morning, here is a look at the busy conditions coming off the east shore freeway. metering lights are on at the bay bridge toll plaza and pretty slow up the incline. speaking of heading into san francisco we see extra busy condition along 101. southbound slow is out near sfo. 92 has been one of the bright spots this morning. both directions a pretty easy commute. the great highway remains closed between slow to lincoln way. still clearing an accident was down 580 at portola. it has been pushed over to the shoulder but traffic is still slow. have a great day. have a great day. ,,,,,,,,