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good morning to our viewers in the west. it is thursday june 7th. welcome to studio 57. i'm rr charlie rose. talks of bailouts have the markets soaring. a rare interview with jeb bush. he opens up about the race for the white house saying he will not join the ticket as mitt romney's running mate. >> i'm not going to do it and i'm not going to be asked. it is not going to happen. i'm erica hill. why are billions of u.s. tax dollars sitting in u.s. bank accounts unused. spent more than five years in jail for a crime he did not commit. today he is trying out for the
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nfl. the amazing story of brian banks continues. we will meet a north carolina mother who is doing well in the moonshine business. >> first as we do every morning we begin with a look at today's eye opener. your world in 90 sengds. -- seconds. >> thank you so much everybody. you are going to make me blush. >> president obama cashes in on a west coast campaign swing. >> he is expected to raise millions of dollars. >> i could not be prouder of the work we have done. >> who else in hollywood is gay? >> clint eastwood supergay. >> s&p had the single best day for the year. >> traders will be listening for ben bernanke's testimony before congress on the nation's economic health.
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reports of a new massacre in syria where the assad dictatorship is out to crush an uprising. severe storms rolling across the denver area. it is debris from last year's tsunami in japan. a large dock washed ashore. the space shuttle enterprise cruised past the statue of liberty. russian base jumper has set a new world jump record. all that matters. after trailing two games to none the thunder are the western conference champs. hannah montana star, miley cirrus is engaged. >> she will wear the traditional family mullet.
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welcome to cbs this morning and welcome back. wall street opens today with investors hoping for a repeat of the big gain. >> the markets had their best day of 2012 after hearing good news from europe and from washington. >> rebecca has the numbers. hope took told of the market. there is a hope that germany is going to come to spain's rescue as far as its banks are concerned. a lot of spanish banks are in trouble right now. secondly there now a new found hope based off of chatter that the fed is going to come to save the day and to rein down stimulus that could crop up markets. >> what might he say that would give him more encouragement. >> if ben bernanke says the
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economy is in bad shape and job growth is not enough -- a lot of his partners at the federal reserve have said this this week. made the case for more action from the federal reserve. central banks around the world are one of the few places that have the ability to inflate things, to inflate economies as well as to inflate stock. a lot of the world is waiting to hear what ben bernanke will do. the european central bank took a different approach. their chairman said we want policymakers to make the choices to secure europe for the future. we are going to take a back seat and say it is your turn to act. germany is one of the strongest economies in europe. and germany right now is taking on europe's problems. and in order to take them on in the future and to agree to take
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them on germany has to say that these other countries we will accept the way that you behave. we will accept your spending that goes long with what your people want. and in turn we will also help you and pay for your bank and your crisis. >> thanks. president obama is waking up in california now half way through a two day fundraising swing. his trip underlines the importance of money in the 2012 campaign. >> also being criticized by republicans s republicans saying the president is spending too much time with celebrity democratics. >> he spent plenty of time. the campaign concluded this morning that 98% of the donations were less than $250. either way it is all about the
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money. president obama got a warm welcome from campaign donors in the los angeles community wednesday night. >> i could not be prouder of the work we have done. >> reporter: the president kicked off with accomplishments. >> ending the war in iraq. >> reporter: also warned about what is ahead during the campaign and why their donations matter. >> you are going to see hundreds of millions of dollars in negative ads because the other side is not offering anything new. >> reporter: to build a war chest to cover the ads and run his campaign mr. obama is spending two days on the west coast to raise an expected $5 million. he will have done 153 fundraisers since formally declaring his candidacy a little over a year ago. with the majority of outside
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dollars going to republicans -- >> he's the $200 million man -- >> reporter: -- raising money will be crucially responsible. to unseat governor scott walker after he limited their power. the union effort was overcome by the republican advantage in money and tv advertising. walker raised $300 million and his challenger raised only 4 millions. warned the wisconsin results should be a wakeup call that the party needs money for tv ads to compete with the super pacs. a legendary california political power broker said money is the mother's milk of politics. four years ago candidate president obama outspent his
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opponent. this year no such gap is likely. >> a former governor of pennsylvania democratic national chairman has written a new back. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> money is the mother's milk of politics. >> been using it ever since. >> this year the president had a huge advantage. has that shifted to the republicans? >> sure. and i'm not complaining about citizens united because it gave republicans the advantage but it is a terrible decision because it allows for unlimited money. people can spend a billion dollars on politics. the reporting system is very slow and voters can't figure out before the election who is giving what money to whom. president obama is going to be fine. there is no saying in politics. it is how much you spend. >> why are you so certain that
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the president will be fine? >> he will have enough money to get his message across and answer charges that come up. his campaign is going to do well at raising money. he is going to be competitive. >> is this race about even now or do you think the president is ahead because of the important states? >> nationally it is pretty much even. if you look at the states that are going to decide the election and he is ahead in the states they are not necessarily secure anywhere. >> what does he have to do? >> he has to keep talking about the future. the undecided voter will focus on who has the best plans to get us out of here. not what governor romney did at bain capital. >> that is what youope the president will say. how are you sure that is the way the public will look at this and they want to say who got us here? >> there was a pole that said
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2/3 of the american people understand that president obama inherited these problems. i think the voters are looking for a way out. they want to hear what you are going to do. don't talk about the past or ripping each other. tell me what you are going to do. i'm hurting. i may lose my house. my 401 k is in trouble. my brother lost his job. tell us how you are going to get us back to work. as a loyal democrat i think -- >> that includes the president. >> i think he has a much better plan. rebuilding the nation's infrastructure is a can't-miss proposal. we ought to start today. >> you supported hillary clinton strongly. would we be in a different place? >> i think she would have come in with a lot more executive experience. the president was hurt by being a legislator early. health care and stimulus two bills i think did good things for the american people too much of it was left up to the
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congress. here is my concept. i think hillary clinton would have said here is what i want. >> you predicted that she will run in 2016. >> she is tired and said she is not going to run. i think we can persuade her. i went up to her at a dinner and i said you think i have the stamina to run for president. she said sure, you look great. i said i am exactly the age you will be in 2016. >> tell me what implications there are from what happened on the ground in wisconsin? >> money matters. number two, unioa different election. people said i don't like recall. we should only recall a governor who has committed a crime or done something incredbly
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corrupt. >> if unions don't have the same power that is big. >> i still think they can get out the vote in ohio. people are focusing on wisconsin. in ohio they repealed the statute. you can't rely on them. in the end people are going to make the decision on who anunsiates the best plan for getting us out of this. and the debates this year are more important than ever. >> it's good to see you. >> good to be here. hillary clinton is telling syria's president it is time to go. called on president assad to give up power. meantime there are reports of yet another massacre. government troops are once again being blamed. >> reporter: the news of this alleged massacre have hardly broken when the finger pointing
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began. the syrian national council tells cbs news that at least 70 people were killed in an incident in the suburbs. first regime troops shelled the village and then government militants came in with guns and knives and killed the people in this case 42 women and children. the syrian government denied all responsibility and said the soldiers entered the village and discovered the people already dead and the bodies burned in an abandoned building. whatever the truth this fresh killing is bound to play into the debate today at the united nation nations. for cbs this morning i'm elizabeth palmer. there is more tough talk from the u.s. this morning in
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afghanistan where defense secretary panetta warned. >> we are reaching the limits of our patience here. it is important that pakistan take action to prevent this kind of safe haven from taking place. >> the network is blamed for last year's attacks against the u.s. embassy. the u.s. federal debt is now about $16 trillion. billions of tax dollars are sitting in bank accounts doing absolutely nothing. >> cheryl is here with an eye & opening new congressional report a story you will see only on "cbs this morning." this is a new report called money for nothing. money not spent at all yet tied
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up somewhere in bank accounts. bridges in dire need of repair. homeowners desperately fighting foreclosure while tens of billions of tax dollars languish in forgotten federal bank accounts. those are some of the outrages in a new report. >> the money gets granted and doesn't get spent. it is way past the time of when the original grant was applied for. it is just sitting out there. >> unspent tax dollars might be good news if it were returned to reduce the debt or deficit but often the spending laws require the money to be retained in accounts at taxpayer expense. for example back in 2005 congress ear marked tax dollars for a futurestic magnetic levitation train. a series of technical errors caused so many delays supporters abandoned the project.
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the $45 million could sit around forever. there are many reasons why so much money goes unused. says one main reason why congress doesn't fix it is not enough support of either party to claw back the idle money. >> i can write a bill that would get all the money back. the question is it will never get to the floor. they don't want to fight the political battle. they don't want the negative press. >> reporter: in 2010 congress set aside tax money to help 30,000 unemployed families avoid foreclosure but the program ended with $568 million left. tarp money allocated in 2008 is still sitting around four years later, $34.6 billion of it. one in four of the nation's buildings that is deficient $13 billion in federal funds for highway projects sits unspent.
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democratic senator is also concerned. this week he is pushing for a law called the data act to get congress a better handle on what has been spent and show in real time where money is sitting around. >> we need to either pay down the debt or we need to use that to consolidate into the programs where we are getting good value for our dollar. >> the olympics blunder in atlanta. 2.7 million tax dollars left over from an ear mark money that by law could be spent only an event that ended 15 years ago. one little factoid the government accountability office found $1 billion sitting in expired grant accounts alone. the office of management and budget says it is reviewing and stream lining guidance on
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federal grants. it is time to show you some of this morning's headlines. the new york times reports scientists have mapped out the entire dna blueprint of a fetus for the first time. researchers say it will allow thousands of genetic diseases to be identified before birth but could increase abortions for nonmedical reasons mpts. the wall street journal says nasdaq is apologizing for glitches. it reports orders that didn't go through. nasdaq is offering a $40 million settlement.
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this actually happened on live tv in greece. a right-wing party spokesman slapped a politician in the face. they locked the man in a room, called the police, but he actually, get this, escaped before they got there. welcome back to "cbs this morning." thing are exciting on our show but not that exciting. >> they take their politics serious over there. >> we do, too, but we keep our hands to ours. one member of the bush family generating the most interest is former governor jeb bush. he visited us here in studio 57 to talk about his political plans to the state of the
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republican party. i began by asking about comments he should be mitt romney's vice presidential nominee. >> i'm not going to do it and i'm not going to be asked and it's not going to happen. that doesn't mean i don't have a voice. doesn't mean i don't want to enthusiastically support mitt romney. i intend to do that. but i'm not going to be a candidate with him. >> under no circumstances? >> under no circumstances. >> have you made the decision that you don't want to be president? >> i've not made that decision although i think this -- there's a window of opportunity in life for all sorts of reasons. this was probably my time. although i don't know, given kind of what i believe and how i believe it, i'm not sure i would have been successful as a candidate either. these are different times than six years ago when i last ran. >> define the difference between the president and governor romney and what this debate ought to be about.
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>> the difference is the role of government in our lives and in creating an environment where we can get back on track economically. that's the driving issues. those two issues of size and scope of government and then how -- the role government plays in creating sustained economic growth. huge difference of opinion on that. i think that's where the campaign plays out. president obama is making a case that economic security trumps everything else and is saying -- i think it's a false choice but he's saying, if we redistribute wealth, more people will benefit through government, receiving, you know, the chance to be secure in their economic livelihood. governor romney's approach is the one that's more traditional in our country which is to say, we need to create a climate of opportunity where people succeed and fail with government, you
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know, playing a role and building capacity, playing a role in providing security on a national level, playing a role for infrastructure but not trying to pick winners and losers all the time. that's a big difference. i hope the campaign is not about that and not about peripheral issues because this could be a defining election. this could be something that looks like, you know, 1980, where there was a clear choice and the country went a different direction -- >> reagan versus carter? >> yeah. >> is what you said to an answer to this question in april 2012. what do you think are the best and worst things president obama has done in his first term in office? you:to hire arne duncan. i think they've done a pretty good job in that regard. so here you are saying this president on education has done the right thing.
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>> that was a pretty articulate quote. are you sure it was mine in. >> yes, i am. >> i agree with that. i think arne duncan has done a good job and clearly has the unmitigated support of the president. >> and former governor of florida. >> you know, our path -- we have a different approach as it relates to school choice and i think we need to accelerate more provocative reforms. having said that, any time an elected official and the world we're in today that appears so dysfunctional, challenges a core constitue constituency, not of their opponent but own political base, i think we should pause and give them credit. this is the place where president obama has done this. and rather than -- i don't are to play the game of being 100,000% against president obama. i got a long list of things i think he's done wrong. with civility and respect, i will point those out if i'm asked, but on the things i think
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he's done a good job on, i'm not going to just say, no, no -- >> let me move to another area and come back to this question. foreign policy. the president of the united states says his foreign policy in part is modeled after the foreign policy of your father. president obama 41. >> i don't think he's add good at it if it's modeled after it. i would argue in some ways by reality kind of seeping into his life as commander in chief that a lot of it's modeled after -- 43. >> -- 43. it would be nice -- a tip of the hat it would would be a nice thing. i think it would be helpful for him politicly. >> the president owes it to -- >> no, he doesn't owe -- >> or should, as a matter of courtesy, ought to say, i have built on and using drones and other things i have done, what
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president bush 43 did. >> i think it would help him politically. frachl, when he was gracious at the unveiling of the portrait. no way not to be gracious in that setting, but it helps to -- just a small acknowledgment that the guy that you replaced isn't the source of every problem that -- and the excuse of why you're not being successful. i think it would help him politically. >> you know we're facing a fiscal cliff for a combination of reasons, having to do with bush tax cuts, having to do with raising the debt ceiling, having to do with other issues coming late december and early january. you in testimony before congress said you were okay, as you well know, with $10 of spending cuts for $1 of tax revenue. >> yeah. >> that's a different position than every republican candidate in the primary. >> i know. >> forget what bush did over here. mitt romney and everybody else over here. >> look, i can appreciate why
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they are reluctant to say that because commitments on spending are hard to implement. commitments on raising taxes immediately happen. just seems like historically you could have deep distrust that that's the case. so, i can understand the caution in that regard, but if you're asked a hypothetical question, which i was -- >> and which they were. >> they were. >> and only you had the, as they say, courage to say, i wouldn't go there. >> it was living proof i'm not running for anything. i think more than anything else -- >> if they hadn't been running they might have -- >> i hope so. because we have unsustainable deficits. >> i haven't heard governor romney say, i take that position back. i'm prepared to raise taxes -- >> no, no. >> -- if that -- >> this is where it gets dangerous because i didn't say raising taxes. >> you said revenue -- >> well, eliminating ducks.
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there's things you could do -- >> but they're not even prepared to go there because grover norquist, which you refused to sign, says that's not the way to go. >> here's what i know to be true. next year or the year after there has to be a grand bargain. we are on an unsustainable course. it is not possible to continue to do what we are going -- what we're doing today. it's just not possible. most people that have looked at our structural deficit problems would admit that. >> is this party more only interested in sort of less taxes, less regulation, and rather than policies that promote growth -- >> well-being i think less taxes and less regulation promote growth. and an immigration policy true to our heritage would do the same. >> are you worried about the direction of your party? >> i worry it's short-sighted
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and tonally, because it send the signal, we want your support but you can't join our team. that's the short-term implications of this. latino voters, and hispanic voters will be important but more so going forward. i think it's short-sighted. i think there needs to be more efforts to realize demographics of our country are changing and how we message or views needs to change as well. >> we'll have more of that conversation in our next hour. as governor bush opens up about his family. >> looking forward to more, charlie. a new chapter this morning in the extraordinary story of brian banks. after being wrongfully imprisoned for years, he is finally getting a chance today to make the nfl. you're watching "cbs this morning."
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♪ mobile shot out of denver. for ten years, brian banks lived a nightmare. now he's living a dream. this morning after serving five years in prison for a crime that never happened, this pro football hopeful is getting the second chance of a lifetime. >> randy paige of our he's gone from wearing a track aring device as a sex offender to walking out before a cheering "tonight show" crowd.
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this was brian banks last night, telling his story to jay leno on "the tonight show." >> you got exonerated two weeks ago. how are you doing? >> i'm great. on top of the world. this here is too cool for school. >> reporter: ten years ago banks was a high school football star with strong college prospects but when a fellow student falsely accused him of rape, banks was advised to plead no contest, leading to imprisonment and then probation as a registered sex offender. >> no, he did not. >> reporter: but just last year, banks and a private investigator were able to catch the accuser admitting she lied about the assault. >> petition is granted. >> reporter: and that led to banks' exoneration just two weeks ago. banks first thoughts as a free man were not of regret or revenge, but of the game he loved. >> i'd like to give a shot at the nfl. >> reporter: then usc coach pete carroll was looking to recruit
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banks a decade ago. now coach of the seattle seahawks, he came calling once again. an opportunity to get a second chance at his dream. i just think he deserves it. >> reporter: banks will get his shot here at the seahawks training facility later today. and there are at least five other nfl teams who want to see him as well. >> it's just been a blessing, a blessing, a dream come true. >> how did you stay positive? >> faith in god. >> reporter: banks insists he's not looking for his 15 minutes of fame. he just wants e
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>> time for the news headlines from cbs five. just hours after san jose voters approved a measure b unions representing city workers filed lawsuits to halt it. it would overhaul the pension system for city workers were already taken pay cuts. the unions say that parts of the measure are unconstitutional. the mayor disagrees saying it also complies with the city charter. concord's sun valley shopping mall is about to be modernized after a long delay. [ male announcer ] it would be easy for u.s. olympian meb keflezighi to deposit checks at the nearest citibank branch. ♪ like this one. ♪ or this one. ♪
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>> good morning. metering lights are on at the bay bridge toll plaza and we're back up to the maze. slow as you work your way up the incline as well. a trouble spot along 880 as you work your way southbound towards dixon landing. traffic is slow as to approach the scene. the golden gate bridge is not bad. >> lots of sunshine around the bay area right now. we do have a couple of patches of fog but looking good over nob hill we expect mostly sunny skies. by the afternoon we will expect '60s and '70s inside the bay. '70's and low 80s inland. the next few days we might cool
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now is a recap of the queen's diamond jubilee. take a look at this, boys. ♪ >> hat, hat, boat, boat, hat, hat, boat, hat, boat, hat, boat, hat, boat, hat, bladder infection. this concludes our queen's diamond jubilee recap. >> i'll bet there's a little more to it than that. i'll bet that looked familiar to you, erica hill. welcome back. >> it did look familiar. nice to be back, thank you. it might not play as well over there. we get a bit of a chuckle over here. >> a lot of hats, a lot of boats. >> a lot of hats, a lot of boats. >> besides the fact that you
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were doing an amazing job, i have to confess i was a little jubileed out but it looked like you were having a ball. >> it was very interesting to be there. the mood very upbeat. everybody was in there for a weeding. but here there was a sense of national pride and appreciation for the queen. >> a homage for the queen. >> yeah. >> you also got to see the prime minister. > i did. >> nicely done. but i like it when we're all at the table together. >> it's nice to have the family back together. >> it is 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> and we're here with erica hill. the preakness and the belmont stakes but could it happen this weekend? >> a lot of fingers crossed. seth doan has the story on this year's contender and his controversial trainer. >> reporter: the horses name is "i'll have another," and it will
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take another victory here at new york's belmont park saturday to win the coveted triple crown. millions will tune in, but few have more riding on him than trainer doug o'neill. >> how are you feeling right before the race? >> i felt great. >> reporter: o'neill coached this thr oh bred through his last big wins, the kentucky derby and the preakness. this is all about getting your horse to that tiptop shape at that very precise moment sni. >> it is. it is. it would be easier to get your horse in tiptop shape and run. they say bring him june 9th and have him. >> he's known not only for his wins but for serious drug violations involving his other horses. >> doug o'neill has had more than a dozen medication violations in other states. we have a trainer, a very
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likeable trainer, doug o'neill, who as soon as this will be done is going to serve a 45-day suspension. you know, it's all kind of come together right here, the glory of the industry and the problems of the industry. >> reporter: you've been accused of using these performance-enhancing concoctions. you deny that, but why do these allegations persist? >> actually i just spent a lot of money and vigorously contested them. i'm here to say there's no wrongdoing found. we know we play by the rules. we've got an incredible staff. pom line, we've got an incredibinkre incredible horse. >> reporter: new york officials are requiring all horses competing in the belmont stakes to spend several days leading up to the race in so-called detention barns. they're under 24-hour surveillance to prevent any illegal activity. >> moving your horse and all these horses to this other barn
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before the race is an effort to create some transparency. has transparency been missing in this? >> i do think, you know, there's been a lot of stuff thrown at our business and is unfair. i think it's a great way to bat down a lot of those thoughts that i see as not being true. >> they call this track the big sandy, and you can certainly see why. doug o'neill says it's the most demanding surface of the three triple crown races, and it's certainly the longest track. this track is a mile and a half long, but trainer doug o'neill says "i'll have another" is ready. >> my job as a trainer is to make sure "i'll have another" is under great care and is in the top shape, getting ready for the race. >> reporter: and one way or another, "i'll have another" will mak
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they call troy ball the moonshine mom. she moved to carolina for her children's health but she got into, shall we say, the spirit of her community. lee woodruff has her story coming up next on "cbs this morning." ♪ all righty. oh, oh. you are a little biscuit. i'm carol. uh, we should skedaddle 'cause it's girls' night. so...okay. oh, wow. you got a skinny-dipping scene after the duel, right? well, i -- shh, shh, shh. show. don't tell. [ male announcer ] your favorite movies right when you want them. just a little -- okay. oh, wow. [ male announcer ] watch unlimited tv episodes and movies instantly
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red solo ♪ it has been 79 years since prohibition ended but the manufacture and sale of moonshine and whiskey is still against the law. >> of course, it has never stopped people from making it in charlie's home state. thauld wo be north carolina. but lee woodruff reports that everything changed there when a woman wanted to get into the business. >> reporter: here in the heart of north carolina in the appalachian mountains, the tradition of running moonshine, whiskey made under the shine of
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moon was born. >> it is 500 miles from the sands of daytona beach to the carolina hill country. >> reporter: what local moon shiners like legendary junior johnson learned about outrunning the law, men like him applied to another all-boys club, auto racing. >> definitely a man's world. >> reporter: troy ball is one of the first women to break into that man's world. >> and how did it feel for you to join that pack? >> it felt great. >> troy is the owner and operator of troy & sons, one of four female operators in the country. >> was its easy? >> it still was difficult because they don't really trust outsiders. >> reporter: troy moved her families to the mountains of north carolina after her two sons were diagnosed with a rare metabolic disorder. >> we brought them here to try to keep them alive.
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when you come to the mountains and get to know the locals, they bring you moonshine. >> reporter: jerry robbins was one of those. he ran moonshine in high school. >> if i told you, i'd have to shoot you. >> reporter: did you ever run moonshine again? you don't have to answer that. >> no. >> reporter: troy, who had. worked outside the home in years set out to make her own. >> i had to be a full-time mom. that was 24 hour as day. i had to kind of say, troy, it's okay, your time will come and it will come later in your life. i just knew that by the time i was in my 40s. so when i ran across this idea of making a great white american spirit, i knew my time had come. >> i couldn't figure for the life of me why she would need 100 pounds of corn. >> reporter: john mcentire's family has farmed in north
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carolina for six generations. >> i said, john, you've got all these old barns and you've got the mill. why don't we do fermentations out here. he said, lady, i don't want to get arrested. >> reporter: prohibition may have been repealed in 1933, but to this day it's illegal to dispel any spirit without a license. she got herself a legal permit to make and distribute whiskey. it converts to sugar and becomes what's known as mash. the mash and the yeast fehr meant for five days. >> on the seventh day we make perfect spirkts. >> >> reporter: troy's husband charlie runs the still. her younger son trevor helps out on the assembly line. doctors warned troy her two older sons wouldn't live past 10 years old.
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they're now 23 and 25. not one to get left behind, the moonshine runner who inspired bruce springsteen's "ode to cadillac" back in the game with his very own midnight moon. >> lots of people when they see it are like, moonshine? you offer that? >> reporter: moonshine margaritas, mojitos. once run out of town, the great american spirit finally has a seat at the bar. >> you like it? >> i love it. >> cheers. >> lee woodruff joins us. >> it was a tough shoot. i had to do it. >> it's a beautiful country. >> it's where you're from. they all had messages. they all said hi. they love the show. >> what does it taste like? i have an impression that moonshine is like, whoo, you know. >> what's interesting about this is this is very high-end liquor. so i learned there are heads,
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hearts, and tails. and in a lot of mass-produced stuff, you don't take off the heads or the tails. you do one because they do this by hand. they take both ends off. so you're left with the heart, which is a really smooth easy and as troy said no hangover liquor. >> there was an audible reaction when he said 184 proof. i don't drink, so i don't know what this means. what is a normal proof? >> 100 is goof so, 184 -- i don't know a lot about the proof either, but i knew that thought about maybe -- you want that in moderation, i'm thinking, gayle. i think you knew a little more about the proof when you started. you look like you had a good time knocking back a few. >> let me tell you. troy said we've got to send this to your man, charlie. >> thank you, troy.
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by the way, troy, i love your accent. >> i love a southern accent. jerry said if i told you, i'd have to kill you. >> he was a character. he took us back in his little shed but i can't tell you about it. >> we don't want you going anywhere. >> charlie, will you be able to stay the rest of the hour. >> i will be. >> i don't know what it does to you. john maier had something to say to taylor swift. >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by usaa, proudly serving the financial needs of the military, veterans and their families. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal.
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♪ why you got to be so mean >> that's a taylor swift song. i love taylor swift. we found a few reason to make some "long stories short." you just heard the song "why you got to be so mean" which is what
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john mayer is saying to taylor swift. he tell "rolling stone" he was hue minuted by the song "dear john." he called it a cheap song writing when swift talks about playing dark, twisted games. he said it makes him feel terrible, he does not deserve. that could be ironic because some say john kisses and tells. >> i guess if you're going to dish it out, as he allegedly did, have you to take it. the daily news says a young giant football fan broke his piggy bank to help his favorite player. he couldn't understand why brandon jacobs left the giant to sign with san francisco. joe's mom told him it was because of money. so, he sent yea cob $3.36, trying to get him to stay. jacob said he almost cried and he's going to visit joe and repay him. the l.a. times says twitter is flipping it's bird logo. the redesigned bird, by the
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way's name is larry, is centered and upward. see, even larry wants to be slimmer. don't we all? next one is for you, charlie rose. "usa today" tells us about a dog who waited two whole days at a truck stop for his dad. the 9-month-old yorkie named rambo jumped out of the truck in missouri, but his doggy dad didn't notice until he was 170 miles away. he called police. they found rambo waiting patiently right where he had been left. man and dog were happily reunited. >> you think, why did he wait so long but he thought he was in the backseat. kmg, a fractured fairytale. april and her boyfriend went to disney world sunday dressed as peter pan characters. they were tinker bell and peter
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pan. but when they tried to visit disney's animal kingdom they were told to change because rules say you cannot dress up as a disney character. >> they were talking about how little girls, it ruins their dreams but it ruined my dream because i -- >> disney gave april clothes to wear instead of her costume. she and her family also got fastpass tickets that let them skip the lines. i know you shouldn't cry at people's pain but i'm curious, how old is april? >> older than i originally thought when i read the story. >> and her boyfriend? okay. >> peter pan -- >> they did get to go. disney gave them the clothes and they're okay. >> note to self, don't dress up next time we go to disney. jeb bush is talking about brotherly love and why he thinks his dad is the perfect man. part two of charlie's interview. you'll see it only on "cbs this morning."
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senator obama laid out the standards in expressed -- ♪ >> we all recognize that ring. don't you hate when it happens? it can happen to anyone. senator grassley's cell phone started ringing as he was speaking on the senate floor.
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no matter how fast you try be you still can't get it off. >> feels like an eternity. >> we want to show you our conversation with florida governor jeb bush. we spoke -- he spoke candidly about being the son of a president and the brother of a president and asked him what he bloo believed would be george w. bush's legacy will be. >> i think my brother will be admired for his determination and fortitude. i noticed because when i was governor people said, you're a stubborn s.o.b., you know, and i probably was. but there's a fine -- >> did you say, runs in the family? >> no. just in the case of my brother. but there's a fine line between stubbornness and the positive side of that, which is dogged determination. and i think what people will begin to see is that he wasn't stubborn. he was totally determined and principled about it. in the country was safer because of it. that will be the positive legacy >> and the negative possibility? >> the negative possibility i
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think relates to this whole conversation about the deficits and debt and spending. i mean, for me -- >> wars cost a lot. >> they do. the inability to convince congress to not try to -- you know, not to -- basically, there was very little prioritization. the legislature of the congress spent a lot of money and under republicans and democrats that happened. >> how are you two different? >> george and myself? >> yes. >> he's older, much older. he's probably a lot more disciplined. >> really? >> yeah. disciplined physically. he's in much better shape. disciplined mentally. >> really? >> yeah. i think he's incredibly disciplined. to take the beating he took and to stay on course, i admire tremendously. i probably would have lost my temper. i think a lot of people would are lost their temper. >> who's more like your mother, you or him? >> he's more like my mother, i think. >> and what does that mean, he's
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more like my mother? >> well, i have some mother-like qualities that have come out in the past week about some of these issues, i guess, being able to speak your mind about worrying too much about things. that seemed to be mom's trait in public life. >> how are you like your father? >> i hope i'm half as good as my father in every way. i mean, he's my hero, so i don't even aspire to coming close to him. i don't know how -- gl he's your hero? >> total hero. i've never met a man as near perfect as george h.w. bush. >> what makes him that way? >> he's strong but gentle. he's kind in a way you don't see often. put aside public life, which is not a real kind business. he treats everybody with incredible decency and respect. he's honest and has unimpeachable integrity and a guy of great courage and great
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humor and great love. >> how is his health today? >> it's good. mentally it's -- he's slower. he can't walk. he has to -- you know, he's held up by a stroller. so, that's hard for a guy that's been on vital and vigorous in life, you know. but he's a joy to be with. sends occasional mail which i get and love. >> did he take the role of advice at all to president bush 43 when he was going through the worse of the iraq invasion and all that that debate became? >> i think -- as an adviser like, you know, here's the three-point -- >> a father who said, son, this is what i think and i love you most of all, but here is the benefit of the only other person who's gone to war with -- other than -- >> it wouldn't be like, here are the three point you ought to do. >> what would it be? >> it would be more like a father and a son. they have an incredible
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relatioship. a very close relationship. and it's like a father to a son. it's not like a policy adviser to a president. >> but the father -- >> but in continual contact. it wasn't once in a while. my guess is my brother would call his mom and his dad pretty regularly. a lot more than i probably did. i apoll guys. >> my thanks to governor jeb bush. you can see our entire conversation tonight on cbs one other with the son of a president and brother of a president. >> he clearly loved and respects his family. that's so nice to see and hear. >> it is really. i value the notion of friendship and family. that's clearly one thing that goes beyond politics and goes beyond, you know, policy. it is what it is that binds people together. >> it's a great interview. it's interesting, too, where he says maybe he's becoming a little more like his mother
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because he's able to speak his mind a little more. >> i think that's -- two things that come out of it as a headline. number one, the father was in contact. whatever the line is between being a good father and giving you advice, it's not policy but it is experience and wisdom. the other thing is how clearly he distinguished himself from all the republican candidates in terms of being able to seek out what he called a grand bargain. that's the only way out of the economic fiscal -- >> that has to happen. >> do you think he wishes now he would have gotten in? i wonder if he's sitting looking, i should have done it. i should have done it. >> i don't think so. he interestingly said, i may have missed my moment. that happens in politics, as barack obama taught us, you have to go when you have an opportunity. >> we shall see. when we come back, online activists are taking on everyone from pay pal to the cia.
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♪ who are you ♪ who who who on wednesday the internet hackers known as anonymous announced they hacked the telecom company in india. they accused the company of censorsh censorship. >> this is one of many hacktvists. author parmy olson and john miller are with us. who is drawn to this? who are the people that make up anonymous. >> there's a wide range of people with a wide range of motivations. anonymous is kind of spun out of
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a culture of trolling on the internet, messing with people, pranking people for fun. in the last few years it's taken on a more serious approach with activism or hacked vichl. they enjoy getting involved in online pranks and stunts and people that want to make a difference in the world, sociopolitical cause can often be attached to the stunt they pull off. >> does this have national security implications when you think about wikileaks? >> it certainly does. wikileak was the single most significant breach of national security information in the history of this country in terms of volume. and it wasn't done by a foreign intelligence agency. it was done by the groups that this book is about for social reasons, political reasons. >> you talk, parmy, they want to make a difference politically and socially but they also admit, william in particular, sometimes they just like messing
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with people, destroy people's lives, turning things upside down. >> william, one of the key interviewees in the bock, said it's a way to waste the night. talking about it with his friend on an image board. this speaks to the real split in anonymous. some want it to go in a serious direction and others thing it would go back to the roots, fun at other people's expense. this culture, which i found fascinating and started writing the bock, there's its own set of rules and etiquette and people's morals and cons in the world get warped because they become quite different online how they are in real life. anonymous you get justification and purpose. >> to me you use the word he etiquette, seems they have no rules, they do what they do with no consequences. that's what's so frightening.
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>> the rules is anything goes. banter. from that also comes a very profound kind of social acceptance. people find fortune, the website this comes from partially, because they were googling something they wouldn't want to tell their friend about, weird, sexu sexual, and they can talk about that because they are anonymous. there's something attractive about that. when people are aanonymous, there's camaraderie, euphoria when they carry out a stunt and get media attention. >> what can you do to protect yourself? >> i think it's just the basic thing. if you're an individual, you want a different password for every web account, facebook, linkedin, keep it long, several words, strong lyrics. and companies and government agencies just need to make sure their networks are as protected as they can be.
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anonymous, one thing i found out from writing this book, it's not the calculating group people think it is. it's lots of little groups taking advantage of people out there. >> one thing i found curious was the lack of unity within the group and political splits. how does that work in anonymous? >> as you can probably imagine, good point, there's a lot of conflict between the various groups within the community, which is why it's not really a group. it's more like a community or a movement. >> it's anonymous, not you nan mouse. >> very good. >> you were able to get some amazing interviews with people involved. how did you know they were telling you the truth? >> a lot of times they weren't. i just have a lot of people trolling me, particularly in the beginning, and so it was just a matter of trying to find the people who i could deem most trustworthy. that's why i tried to meet them
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face to face and then you build up that relationship and they decide they don't want to lie to you anymore. >> parmy olson, and john miller, thank you very much. we're anonymous is on sale now. >> when you say the word, i'm thinking it's a sentence. but that's the title of your book "we are anonymous." paul giamatti has played everything from a bellboy to president of the united states. he's popular and we've got him this morning, even though he says he doesn't think he's all that interesting. we'll be the judge of that. he joins us at the table. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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broken hearts and very, very long careers. now, you want love? go after it. you might even find it. but i can guarantee you something much more rare and a lot more fun, man. >> what is that? >> fame. >> emmy and golden globe winner paul giamatti plays a shady manager in the star-studded new movie "rock of ages" adapted from the hit broadway musical. >> movie fans remember him from "planet of the aprils," "sideways" and "cinderella man." paul, may i just say, you play a sleazy manager and you do it so well. >> that's right. that's why i'm hired. i got hired to play a sleaze ball. >> you look at that tape and say, oh -- >> very good wig.
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>> a very interesting look. the thing about "rock of ages," lots of singing, the music is great. who knew paul giamatti could sing. >> i do very little. >> but you do sing. >> that counts. >> thank you. pi loved doing it, it was great. i can carry a tune. >> i know you can. the cast was also amazing. the music was aanywaysing. what drew you to the part other than skeezy and sleazy -- >> and i like those crazy musicals on film like that. it's nutty. it's like an action movie, making one of those things. i knew it would be fun. i got this thing and the director is a really fun guy, who i knew. you know -- >> had you seen the show? >> no, i didn't. no, no, no, no. my character isn't in the show so i didn't bother. i don't do that kind of thing. no, i don't do that kind of thing. i hope people like the musovie. >> do you like '80s music? >> i'm okay with it. >> enthusiastic. that would be a no. >> i like the clash and stuff
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like that more. the punky stuff when i was -- >> that's one of the things that i loved about the music in the movie is what i like so much because it brought back so many memories. i think it would be a hoot to do. >> totally, super emotional music. i sing that whitesnake song. i had no idea who sang it or anything. >> you want to give a version? >> i'm sitting here thinking, i don't even remember what the hell i sang. >> "here we go again." ♪ here we go again that's it. that's all i'm doing. wow, you looked -- >> full clodisclosure here, my sister and i were really into hair bands. >> hair bands? good stuff. >> i was kidding you about playing a shady character but you play a lot of shady characters in your career. i'm not saying that's a favorite role for you, but are there other things you really enjoy playing? i mean that seriously. you do it well but you're such
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an accomplished actor -- >> somehow whatever i play end up being sleazy. somehow i make them sleazy. i did that -- i played the president in john adams miniseries. >> that was phenomenal. >> he wasn't nutty. i didn't play a great president, a played a completely nutty, great president. i like playing weird, shady people. >> why? >> it's more interesting. it's just a lot more interesting. i mean, i'm not going to play the hero of something. i'm just not. so i think -- but they're more complicated, that's all. more interesting. >> have you lost some weight? >> i did lose some weight, yes. >> for a part or just because you wanted to be thin? >> because i wanted to be thin. >> good reason. >> i was getting a little large. i'm getting older, so -- >> i'm on jenny craig. how did you do it? >> i did it by not eating as much crap. >> that will do it every time. >> that's the hardest part. >> push away g to the gym will do it every time. >> that's all i did, yes.
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>> do you work aull the time? >> i work a lot, yes. >> it seems to me you are totally in demand and i go from one role to the other. >> yeah, which is good. it's good. and i like to work. i'm a bit of a workaholic. i like to work. i don't like to be idle. >> you're heading back to the stage. so you went -- you grew up in new haven. you're going to yale and doing ham let. >> yes, next year. >> does every actor want to? >> i -- it never occurred to me to do ham let. i mean, another shakespeare thing i thought i would do before ever doing hamlet. >> how did this occur? >> they came to me and said, do you want to play hamlet? it never occurred to me. >> how do you feel? >> i'm terrified. >> are you? >> completely terrified. i haven't done shakespeare in a long time. >> would you watch the great -- >> i don't want to watch anything about it because i don't want to have anything in my head about it. >> is it terrifying because so
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many people know the play and the part? >> everybody knows the play. everybody knows the part. and it's gigantic. i mean, that stuff takes incredible energy. he never stops talking. that stuff takes a lot of energy. >> and everybody has their own interpretation. >> right. and have you to have a take. i don't know what the hell my take is going to be. >> you better be good. >> identify got some time. >> but you better be good. >> i didn't know this, he was barth giamatti's son, president of yale. >> oh, yes. >> i interviewed your dad a couple -- did you know that, erica? >> yes. >> i did not know that. whenever you hear somebody went to yale, you think, they're good, whatever they do, they're good. >> whatever they do, it's good. >> i'm pulling for you when you go. >> thank you. >> did he live to see you become -- >> no, he died before. he never really sa saw me. >> as an accomplished actor? >> no, he never saw me act
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>> good morning everyone. let's get you caught up with some of the bay area headlines. another day of hearings in the beating case of a giants fan brian stowe. the woman who drove the suspects away from the stadium will take the stand today. one of bryant's friends testified yesterday that he tried to stop the attack. the petaluma man faces felony charges in court today, the 70 year-old is accused of stealing $20 million from dozens of investigators, investors in a ponzi scheme. he promised double digit returns but lost all the money. bart police are getting help with dealing with people with mental health issues. they have hired a person whose
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job will be to help handling people with mental health problems. >> a lot of sunshine right now, a few patches of fog at the coast but we will see more sunshine in the afternoon. it will be on the breezy side as we head into the day, some minor changes in the weather pattern. we have a cold front that will bring a few more clouds across the skies. '50s and '60s that the coast, '60s and '70s around the bay and some seventies or even low 80s inland. as we head to the weekend high- pressure builds in. temperatures up into the 90s and sunshine all the way to the coast. traffic is coming up next.
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>> troubles along highway 101 right now. southbound at 380 there is an accident stuck causing slow conditions. northbound 101 look out for a multi vehicle accident at cesar chavez. the 280 extension is also seen delays. 27 minutes from to 38 as you had towards the mace. the golden gate bridge is one of the night spots right now. westbound to 37 is slow and go
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but mass transit is a good choice. at a wonderful thursday ,,,,,,

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