deaf sleep sl good morning to our viewers in the west. it is wednesday, june 27, 2012. welcome to studio 57. i'm charlie rose. homes are burning, and thousands are forced to evacuate as a giant wildfire reaches colorado springs. and from "when harry met sally" to "sleepless in seattle," film maker nora ephron had a major influence on american pop culture. we'll look back at her life and work. i'm erica hill. president obama and mitt romney square off over the looming health care decision by the supreme court. plus, the truth about just how much online retailers really know about us. and i'll gayle king. a new diet study reveals thattal calories are not the same. and tyler perry and aaron sorkin will be here with us in studio 57. but first, as we do every

morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds. this is a firestorm of epic po portions. >> colorado wildfires force thousands more to flee. >> we've got to go. >> the air force academy is shutting down. >> it's the huge waldo fire canyon. >> 32,000 people have now been ordered to evacuate. >> it's really frightening that we can lose everything. >> debby weakened to a tropical depression just hours after making landfall. >> but the danger is not yet over. >> the storm could drench parts of florida and georgia with four to eight inches of rain over the next two days. >> alligators, water moccasins, rattlesnakes, up in the trees right now. >> all of my memories, all of my stuff, is gone, just gone. >> nora ephron, who defined a generation with her books and movies, has died of leukemia in manhattan.

>> ephron was best known for "sleepless in seattle" and "when harry met sally." >> is there a misconception about you? >> oh, i don't think so. you know, i'm just typing. stockton, california, is about to make history by seeking bankruptcy protection. the biggest american city ever to do so. >> college football, the bcs approved a four-team playoff to crown a national champion starting in 2014. >> and he makes the play! >> he doesn't have the ball. the ump is saying out. the guy next to him looksa him and goes, oh, you got it. >> all that -- >> you made a sex tape with him. whose idea was that? yours or his? >> that was brilliant, wasn't it? >> first of all, i have a headache. and i'm not in the mood for you to put me in my place. >> you have a headache? >> the queen has just met the former ira leader and shook his hand in reconciliation. >> now that this is out of your system, are you ready to go back

to cleveland and play some ball? >> playing no ball right now. welcome to "cbs this a wildfire that's been burning for three days near colorado springs exploded overnight. this morning, fire officials say the situation is crucial. >> the fire has reached the outskirts of the city. mass evacuations affecting 32,000 people have been ordered, including the air force academy. rick salinger of our denver station cbs 4 is in colorado springs. >> good morning. and good morning across the west. the fire here in colorado springs jumped its perimeter yesterday, roaring into neighborhoods and forcing thousands out of their homes. the massive wildfires burning across the state took a turn for the worst tuesday, as tens of thousands evacuated from their homes, and dozens more lost theirs in the inferno. >> we've got to go. >> reporter: more than 32,000

people fled before the waldo canyon fire here in colorado springs. >> this is a firestorm of epic proportions. >> reporter: wind gusts of up to 54 miles per hour are driving super heated air. days of 100 degree temperatures have sapped humidity and fueled the flames. governor john hickenlooper described the scene here as looking like a military invasion. >> this is tough, and we know it's going to be tough. but we're also not going to quit. we're not going to back away. >> reporter: a lightning strike near boulder ignited the latest wildfire. jill spent four years building a home in boulder, specially designed for her respiratory problems. she moved in just last week but had to be evacuated tuesday. >> every day, i'm like i should pack a bag and have it ready because i have medicine and oxygen and stuff i need. and i didn't. and i'm like, there's a lesson. >> we have to go now! >> reporter: scott deeds took only his most precious

possession when he left his home tuesday. >> the flag is my son's. excuse me. and i lost himin iraq. so i want to make sure i take that down. >> reporter: the hyde park fire in northern colorado is the largest in the state, still growing at 136 square miles, and more than 250 homes gone. the campus of the u.s. air force academy just north of here has been evacuated as well. just as 1,000 new cadets are due to arrive tomorrow. charlie and erica? >> rick salinger there. meantime, all the rain they desperately need in colorado this morning can pretty much be found in florida. that's because former tropical storm debby continues to dump rain at record levels as it makes its way across the state. debby was downgraded to a tropical depression on tuesday after finally making landfall on the gulf coast about 90 miles south of tallahassee. it has caused widespread flooding in several florida towns, including live oak, which is where we get our report this morning.

>> reporter: good morning, and good morning to our viewers in the west. the flooding here stretches about seven block into the neighborhood. all the way to the city's main pumping station. so there's now a concern that sewage could actually be seeping onto the streets and into the homes of live oak, all because of debby. over the past five days, virtually every one of florida's 67 counties has gotten a dose of debby. as the storm finally prepares to exit, it's threatening to dump up to eight more inches of rain on top of the two feet already inundating some areas. >> the barn got to about two feet. the driveway was over my head. it probably still is. >> reporter: for debbie skinner, a boat is the only way she and her husband can get home. >> alligators, water moccasins, rattlesnakes, all up in the trees right now. >> reporter: in the northern part of the state, roughly 80% of the town of live oak is submerged. melissa hendrikson waded through

the water tuesday to check on pictures of her dad, who recently died of cancer. >> my dad's memories and everything is in there. it hurts. that's all i had left. >> reporter: after stalling over the panhandle for days, debby washed ashore late tuesday before weakening to a tropical depression. while the system may no longer pack the same punch, forecasters warn isolated tornados and flooding are stll possible. dozens of sink holes are also popping up across the state. in yards, streets, and airports. debby should slowly march out to sea by tonight, but floodwaters from tampa all the way up to jacksonville could linger for days. as for debbie skinner, a month into the atlantic hurricane season, she says she's already had enough. >> as far as staying here, i think i'm done. i think i'm done. >> reporter: and throughout the entire state of florida, more than 13,000 people are waking up this morning without power. >> thanks. tomorrow morning, the

supreme court will hand down its long awaited decision on president obama's health care law. everyone with a stake in the outcome is preparing for it. >> president obama and republican challenger mitt romney tested out their messages on tuesday trying to anticipate what the justices may rule. >> if obama care is not deemed consttutional, then the first 3 1/2 years of this president's term has been wasted on something that did not help the american people. >> i believe that health care reform was the right thing to do. i believe it was right to make sure that everybody in this country gets decent health care and is not bankrupt when they get sick. >> with us now, republican strategist mike murphy. welcome. >> good morning. >> do you believe that if the court strikes down the individual mandate it benefits the president? >> well, it could. i'm not sure i believe it. i think it's going to be a wash. i think washington is aflutter about this, but ultimately i think both sides are kind of dug in. if they knock down the aca, the affordable care act, romney will

declare victory and he'll be able to attack obama saying he can't deliver anything, which links to the economy. but what i think people might be missing is that obama will be able to relitigate stuff of the plan that people like without the burden of the plan itself that they don't like. things like no pre-existing conditions. so i think obama may get the issue and lose the baggage of the plan. i don't think it's a big win for him, but i think it's more of a wash than a big defeat if the supreme court knocks it down. >> where is the campaign at this moment? >> close. i think if you look at the electoral college, it's a closer race than some of these national polls may show. a bit of a romney lead or a tie. it really boils down to can romney get something going in the west by getting latino numbers. or can he win a democratic leaning state like a wisconsin, michigan, or pennsylvania. if he can do that, i think romney wins. if not, if he just wins ohio and florida, i think the president wins. it's close, and we are only in the third inning. there's so much left to happen. >> including the big debates.

>> which will be everything, i think. >> there's talk about how everyone is doing at this point and how each campaign is playing things. mitt romney was criticized for some time that he didn't connect with voters. is he doing a better job of that? >> i think so. it's kind of unlitigated now. i think romney got a bad rap. once he got the republican nomination and became the other choice on the ballot, it's a tight race. so the question is, after labor day, when this thing really gets going, even though it seems like it's been going on for 20 years, will it be a debate about a new economic manager? that's romney's campaign. or will it be a debate about mitt romney and bain capital and that kind of stuff? that's obama's campaign. it will be like basketball. they'll fight for ball control. >> what about the debate on current events? at the end of the day, that's what's going to matter. >> whatever voters think the most important thing is will be what is debated over but the came pain is trying to control that. obama's campaign thinks it's romney. romney thinks it's the economy.

>> where does likability play into all of this? >> it's important. but if you have the less, quote, likeable guy, then you want to sell the answer to the problem. you may not love me, but you'll love the job i'll get you. each campaign will double down on its strengths, and you'll see it coming down to can romney get a traditionally leaning democratic state like a wisconsin or pennsylvania to offset the latino problem he's got in nevada and colorado. and then a huge fight for virginia, florida, ohio. >> romney has a big choice about who will be his running mate. any sense of what's happening there? >> you know, i think that all this parlour talk. but i think that what i believe is it will be operation sandman. put him to sleep. don't take chances. we did the take chances thing four years ago, and still got burned furniture around the party from that. >> right. >> i think the rob portmans of the world makes some sense. it's the clinton rule. clinton figured out that southern white gentlemen wins. he picked another one.

everybody has a down side. and there are plenty of good candidates, all good friends of mine. but i think the boring may be in. and the truth is the focus is on the presidential candidate. people don't vote for vice president, but they might change what they think about the nominee based on who you pick. we'll see. we have a lot of strong people. rubio, christie. but i don't know. the conventional wisdom is portman. and i think it might be right. >> good to see you, mike. >> good to see you. this morning a container ship at the newark port of new jersey may have stowaways aboard. the ship was boarded for a routine cargo inspection and noises were heard that sounded like people. immigrations and customs agents are now investigating. a coast guard official says that the container was loaded in india. the ship made its last stop in egypt. according to the paper that works the container it should be full of machine parts headed for virginia. a two-star general has been

appointed to investigate a growing sexual abuse scandal. ana, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and erica and to our viewers out west. allegations of sexual misconduct between air force instructors and strainees began here at the base last summer. but now a comprehensive strategic review has been ordered of the entire air force training community. the widespread criminal investigation is looking into the possibility that cases of sexual misconduct extend beyond lackland air force base. investigators are looking at four air force bases across two states. >> you're slowing everybody up! >> reporter: since allegations of misconduct began, 35 military instructors have been removed from their post. four have been accused. sergeant luis walker has pled not guilty and faces

court-martial. he is charged with raping or sexually assaulting 10 recruits between october 2010 a january 2011. the air force says it's being fully transparent. >> i want the public to know what's going on. i don't want the possibility of someone to say, well, look, they are trying to cover it up. >> reporter: the investigation comes as secretary of defense leon panetta announced wider plans to deal with this issue. >> we will continue to develop our strategies. we'll continue to devote our energy and our intention to enforcing our department's zero tolerance policy on sexual assault. >> reporter: lawmakers on capitol hill like california representative jackie spier want to further investigate the matter with a hearing of their own. >> congress has known about this problem in the military for 25 years. we've had lots of hearings. lots of reports. but are we willing to step up and do the right thing to take

it out of the chain of command so that the victims really have the freedom to report these crimes and feel that they are not going to be marginalized and labeled and then dismissed from the military? >> reporter: this could be the worst sexual misconduct scandal to hit the military since a similar case involving the army occurred in aberdeen, maryland, back in 1996. now today lawmakers will be lobbying with survivors of military sexual assault on capitol hill. they'll be trying to encourage them to pass a piece of legislation sponsored by spier called the stop act. that bill would provide for a separate military unit to handle and investigate allegations of wrongdoing and would take those investigations away from the military chain of command. charlie and erica, back to you. >> anna warner, thank you. later today, stockton, california, could become the largest american city ever to file for bankruptcy. and economists warn other large

u.s. cities could be next. ben tracy takes a look at how they got into so much trouble. >> reporter: stockton, california, was a city with big dreams. in the mid 2000s, it overhauled its marina, bought new parking garages, a new city hall, and put up a new arena. tax revenues were pouring in, so the city took out $190 million in bonds and loans to pay for their projects. >> everybody was still living high on the hog. >> reporter: bradley coster owned a bar downtown. >> on friday and saturday nights, the hockey team played. and we packed the place. >> reporter: but then the great recession came to stockton. unemployment is nearly 20%. and the foreclosure rate is one of the highest in the nation. ta revenues have plummeted. and the city is facing a $26 million deficit. the bank just took back those parking lots, and the future city hall. is it fair to say this city was living beyond its means for a long time?

>> yes. but it was incremental. >> reporter: city manager bob dice says stockton cannot afford its boomtown spending because it also has pensions and city employees who get free health care for life. you are also staring at unfunded health care liabilities. how do you pay that if you don't change the system? >> we just don't see it as viable that we could ever pay that off. >> reporter: california state law requires that the city negotiate with its unions, including its police officers, for up to 90 days. there's been no agreement, so now stockton faces its ultimate plan b. bankruptcy. >> there's a long queue out there of cities like stockton that are going to be doing the same thing. >> reporter: this economist points to other cities such as vallejo, california, and central

falls, rhode island, which also went bankrupt because of unfunded pensions. jefferson county filed for bankruptcy as well. >> this is not a story about stockton. it's a story about the failure of our national economy. and the reason is simply because we don't make things anymore. >> reporter: in stockton, bradley coster just closed down his bar. >> i had loyal people that worked for me for years. and that hurt. >> reporter: and it's one more business stockton cannot afford to lose. for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, stockton. it is time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. britain's "telegraph" says queen elizabeth shook hands with the ira former commander this morning. security in belfast in northern ireland was tight for that meeting. the ira ended its armed resistance to british rule 14 years ago. mark mcginnis is now an important british minister.

orrin hatch won utah's overcoming a challenge from a tea-party backed candidate. and charles rangel, censured by the house for tax evasion, won his democratic primary in new york city. the virginian reporting on a

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a new report out this morning has new medical facts on why all calories are not the same. and nora ephron was a rare figure in hollywood. her movies taught all of us about women and men. >> "when harry met sally" is not a movie about whether men and women can be friends. it's a movie about how different men and women are. ,,,,

>> good morning. let's get too caught up with some of the bay area headlines. two men are under arrest helped police identify the two suspects. southern california doctor known for prescribing pain pills is going on trial for three murders. the 21 year-old from san ramon is one of her alleged victims to overdose. 20 opens its annual developer'' conference here in san francisco an hour from now. they are expected to introduce a 7 in. tablet to compete with the ipad. the ipad. visit: discover britvisit:lumbia.

>> we have a lot of people stuck in traffic jams right now a especially in the east bay. westbound 24 approaching off blogs road we of seen a lot of improvement. there was a car fire blocking a couple of winds approaching university avenue on westbound 80. speeds are still release low. westbound 580 is in the red this morning heading out of the altamont pass. >> temperatures retinol are running mainly in the '50s. lots of sunshine and warming up nicely.

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♪ it's so important to make someone happy ♪ >> welcome back to "cbs this mornin morning". sleepless in seattle is just one of nora ephron's memorable movies. >> she died last night at age 71 after a long quiet battle with leukemia. for more than four decades, her writing made us laugh and cry and most of all think. a look back at her storied life. >> oh! >> i'll have what she's having. >> reporter: nora ephron wrote that. if we have such a they think as a movie vocabulary, that scene from when harry m ri met sary m it. she was great with one liners.

in the romantic comedies such asleepless in seattle, or you've got mail, women saw funnier versions of themselves. their dreams, their worries, their dilemmas. >> you say things like that and you make it impossible for me to hate you. >> reporter: and when harry met sal sli not a movie about whether men and women can be friends, it's about how different they are. >> reporter: she was born into writing. in new york city, all hoe she grew up in beverly hills, because her parents were both screen writers. whose advice to their four daughters, was turn your misfortunes into stories. nora ephron graduated from wellesley college in 1962. then went to work as a mail girl at "newsweek." not for long. soon she was writing for magazines, collections of her essays back best sellers. she took her parents' advice and

turned her ugly divorce from carl berstein of watergate fame thinly disguyed about about to a novel. and then the movie heartburn. >> look at all these flowers that you bought for her. >> it was the defining fact of your life if you are divorced and have kids with the person that you're divorced from. and that just seemed like something worth seeing. >> reporter: she was happily married to screen writer nicholas pilegi for 25 years. aging was a subject she didn't like, but spent much of her time in recent years contemplating. when she wrote and directed the film julie and julia about julia childs, this is what struck her. >> and julia seemed so ageless really. she didn't become julia child until she was 50 years old.

>> reporter: she could joke in print about her sagging neck, her fading memory. how very nora ephron this line mere the end of her last book. i try to say to myself, if this is one of the last days of my life, am i doing exactly what i want to be doing? i aim low. for cbs this morning, i'm martha teichner, new york. over the last two year, nora ephron wrote only 100 blogs for the huffington "post" at the invitation of her longtime friend arianna huffington. arianna is here now. welcome. >> thank you. >> we come here to think about a friend. when i think about you and her and the beginning of huffington "post," she gave you credibility because she was one of the people who prepared to blog. >> first of all, she gave me courage to go on with it when a lot of my friends said why do you need this, it's not going to

to work. she said do it. i'm here for you. and she blogged the day that deep throat announced himself, you remember the revelation, and everybody wanted her to go on. everybody -- every show, the new york time, everybody asked her and she blogged instead for the huffington "post." and that gave us huge credibility. and then she was an evangelical. she would say i sat next to steve martin and i convinced him to blog. and she would watch the comments to make sure nothing offensive was said. and she became an editor at large. and you have the great passage about the blog and one day i was staying with her and she said to me in the morning, we need to marriage comes and goes, but us- divorce is forever. and we did and she got involved every step of the way. >> she once wrote ten things to do and one of them was marry a

man who was unhappily married for his first wife for 17 years. >> she was full of those amazing one liners and her passion for food also became one liners when she said i expect a vengetarian would never fall in love with one. she said say you know they're tasteless. >> the hinge thing, too, you ca think about nora without thinking about nick. they became such a wonderful couple. >> and he was so strong and yet so confidently caring for her. and neither of them believed in life after death. we've had many conversations about it because as you know, i do believe. and i constantly would argue with her. and one day she said you know what, you believe in reincarnation, i don't. i'm not sure if i want to be cremated or buried.

maybe being remate e cremated r chances. >> to know her was to know that she was funny. >> one thing you wrote last night was that she was also so good not just at writing but at friendship. what kind of a friend was she? >> one of the last times i saw h her, she called and said let's all gather and celebrate at will this chinese restaurant around the corner. she was always celebrating her friends. i'm over 50 and i take up blogging, she was there for you. and she wrote when her closest friend died. she wrote friends after a certain age are replaceable. if you're 30, you make a lot of

friend, but after a certain age, you can't replace her friends. and that's when so many of us are feeling about her today. >> your first thought was if you were having a dinner party was can you get nora to come. >> and also can you get nora to cook. she actually cooked for all her dinner parties. or she found a great cake somewhere that she would then sf introduce to all her friends. when she would go on vacation, she would discover not just the restaurants, but the special sauce on that spaghetti that she would reproduce. >> she said reading makesaccomp something, makes me a better person. reading has held away my attention deficit disorder. reading is escape and the opposite of escape. a way to make contact with reality but a way of making things up.

reading is grift. reading is bliss. all of that from nora ephron. >> arianna, thanks. >> thank you. still to come, there is a new study out this morning which shows why it may be so tough to not only lose the weight, but keep it off. calories are not all created equal. that's ahead.

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new data shows the entire adult population is nearly 17 million tons overweight. >> guess who is not just pulling their weight, but cramming it into a pair of stretch pants? the united states of america! [ cheers and applause ] >> according to the report, although only 6% of the global population live in america, we are responsible for more than a third of its obesity. what does that mean? who knows? because we're already 27th in math. >> oh, those two don't go well together, do they? everyone knows dieting is tough

and even when you do lose the weight, keeping it off over the long term can be almost more difficult. >> a new study has found a possible explanation. all calories are not created equal. dr. david lug wig of children's hospital led the study. good morning, doctor. >> good morning. and nice to be with you, charlie. >> thank you so much. all calories are not alike. what does that mean? >> well, by way of background, we know that many people can lose weight for a few weeks or months. but most have difficulty maintaining weight loss over the long term. so to examine the situation, we fed 21 obese young adults low-calorie diets to bring their weight down by about 30 pounds. and then studied them for a month at a time, on each of three popular diets. low-fat at one end of the spectrum, low-carb or atkins at the other end of the spectrum, and a low glycemic diet in the middle, a diet with low amounts of protein, fat and carbohydrates, but keep blood

sugar stable. and we found that the subjects burned about 350 calories more a day on the low-carb than on the low-fat diet. that's about an hour of moderate physical activity in effect without lifting a finger. we also found that they burned 150 calories more on the low glycemic diet. we also looked at heart disease risk factors and found the low-fat diet had the worst effects. but the atkins low-carb diet had problems too, it increased stress and chronic inflammation. so from a metabolic perspective, all calories are not along. and for the best long-term outcomes, avoid restricting any major nutrients, either fat or carb rate and focus on white bread, white rice and sugary foods. >> so everything in moderation, more healthy than not healthy. >> well not exactly.

not exactly everything in moderation. our findings suggest that actually trying to restrict either carbs or fat is not the best way there. and instead to focus on the quality of the fats and the quality of the carbs. >> and that's where the low glycemic comes in. for people not familiar with that, give us a quick description of what that means. >> sure. well, you know, the traditional carbohydrates we've eaten for years, like stone cut oats, these traditional carbohydrates they slowly raise blood sugar slowly. so there isn't the same surge and crash. but all of the refined carbs that invaded our diets with the low-fat craze seems to lead to metabolic changes not only making us hungrier, but causing metabolism to fall. and that combination is a recipe for weight gain. >> okay. so if you're starting out today and you want to lose weight smartly, what do you do?

>> well, don't have the white bagel with fat-free cream cheese. that's going to lead to a surge in blood sugar for a while, but by 10:30 in the morning, you'll be starving and perhaps suffering a fall in

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>> we have mobile 5 ac transit camera crossing the upper deck of the bay bridge heading into san francisco. it looks ok on the san francisco's side. behind the pay gate is backed up to the macarthur maze. with around 80, down the short freeway, we had an earlier accident and another one off your panel so it is almost a 50 minute commute from westbound 82 the cardenas bridge. >> a lot of sunshine showing up around the bay area. temperatures will get warm in the valleys. fifties and a few 60s beginning to show up around the bay area right now. ,,,, ,,,,

here is another cleveland question -- [ laughter ] how, there's no way to know this, but what would it feel like if you were still in cleveland and won the championship there. would it have been better or was this one better? >> i think the feeling i had on thursday, i could have been on mars and won that championship and felt amazing. it was better than what i expected. >> you never know where david letterman is going. it is 8:00, welcome back to cbs this morning. >> we told you yesterday how yesterday, the online travel agency suggesting more expensive hotel options to mac computer

users, it turns out that orbitz is not alone. >> and it reminds us that everything we do is tracked only. so what exactly do they know? everything? >> everything. and for a lot of people it's not a surprise. how you're getting only, if you're using a mac or pc. for ten years now they have been able to track if you're accessing online through a mac or a pc, and if you're on a mac, online, they say you're the kind of customer that will spend more money. so you will see higher end advertisements in the corners and margins of your computer when they pop up on the internet. >> this is something that is scary. >> yeah. the reality is they're collecting all of this data through a software service

call called hadou. it was created to correct every bit of data that exists out in the internet. that you put out there, and every single company is using it. all of the big guys from amazon, ebay to apple. >> they can tell the computer, can they tell where i'm using it. >> yes. >> can they tell where i'm wearing? >> no, but they know where you're accessing the internet from. it's this data service that allows them to see exactly so many minute petes about who you are. a high speed internet connection, what does it tell them? it tells themselves you're willing to spend more money on a

high-speed internet connection. and also, they can take away that you might have a job because you're accessing the internet from work. he says let's say you go to cbs news at 5 p.m. from the office. from new york, here is this in the office, from work, and they can tell houm times, let's say i clicked on macy's.com in one day. they can tell that i have clicked on it four times, and at 5:00 p.m., macy's can make a decision based on all of that data set to send out an e-mail or a notice, a pop up ad on my computer that says if you go to

macy's.com before midnight we will send you something we from shipping. they know i'm a consumer, that i am at work, and that i'm shopping from work. >> it's almost like your air owe code or your zip code will tell you something about the neighborhood you live in and low case is important here too. if you're in a cold weather location, cruise lines will literally send out an e-mail or send you a pop-up ad at that moment in time when of course you want to go on a warm weather location, they know everything. >> so if they can do all this, what else can they do? >> the future is wide open. that is the growth story. when you look at google,

facebook, amazon, can ebay, all of these internet companies, what they do with this information -- >> what if i don't want them to have that information. >> right, is there a way to stop them? right now there is not. this is the future. when you any about the lawsuits and where the direction of things could be heading as consumers become more and more

tyler perry has something in common with his alter ego medea. this morning, the self made entertainment mobile is here in studio 57. we'll be right baa with tyler at the table. uçu

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this is my family joe. yo this is my father joe, you met my aunt medea, you can't have any contact with your family from the past.

>> this is crazy. you suck. >> what generation is this? >> get out of here. i'm going to kill this girl. >> this is only until the trial is over, right, brian? >> i hate you. >> somebody is going to have to help me. help me, god help me. >> that is a triple dose of tyler perry. >> i don't know how he does it. >> he does it well. >> i do it well. >> that is medea's speech. my favorite part, the actor, producer, director, the highest paid man in 2011. how are you doing? >> why is that your favorite part? because you suggest that anybody

that can do this and make all this money is somebody special? >> because when you look at his background, to grow up the way he did, without a lot of money, or anything -- >> and a huge downside. >> and now to have all this money to your name, what does if mean? >> it means i can pay a lot of people to keep working. there are so many people working, and i get an opportunity to make more and have more people working. that's what it means for me more than anything. >> i get that, but a kid that had nothing, to grow up and have this, this is great. i get that, but you know what i mean, what does it mean to your personally? >> i had one prayer when i started, and that was to do well enough to take care of my mother. so the time i prayed that prayer until she died two years ago i was able to do that. people were supporting me all over the world and it's been

fantastic. that's what i can do. >> madea has been very good to you. >> yes she has. >> we love her. >> i do too. >> money in the bank. >> well, not always. i just want to never take her for granted. >> don't take her for granted? >> no, i want to make sure i give people a good movie, and this is a great one, and i think people will love it. >> you see an audiences relationship to her. >> she crosses all cultures. this character that just says what's on her mind, he's not politically correct, everybody has that kind of grandmother, and that's what people miss. >> is there anything you think that you can't do?

>> absolutely. >> oprah, broadway play? >> there's lots of things i can't do, but as madea, she can say and do whatever she wants to say and do. >> what was interesting at the screening the other day, the premier, people were sitting around saying you know who enjoyed the movie? tyler perry. you were laughing and cracking up like you were seeing it for the first time, and you know exactly what's going to happen. >> it's seeing the experience of the audience, they were laughing, and going through the costumes and prosthetics and hours of make up, it's worth it when it's done when i can get in that room and enjoy it with the audience. >> i was having dinner with a friend, and you know what's the greatest punishment for bernie

madoff would have been is if he had to move in with madea. so i thought who could play this type of character, and he is brilliantly funny, denise richards, it's a fantastic cast. >> are you doing a nationwide talent search? >> i am right now. there's so many people that want to break into the business and i lover the underdog. like the cast of "house of payne" were in hollywood for yeahs and could not get work. so upload your video, i'll check it out, we'll vote on the top ten and someone will get a role in the movie. >> if someone had talent, other than going on youtube, do you like when people approach you on the street. i've seen that --

>> i appreciate -- here is what i learned. if you don't want to be bothered, stay in the house, so make sure you have a nice house with nice rooms, so when i go out i don't mind it at all. like taking you down to the bahamas, but gayle does not like to fly on a small plane. you have to take a small plane from the island to my place, look at that picture. >> american airlines, united, it doesn't have to be privet. >> look at the look in her eyes. it's crazy. it was a 15 minute flight. >> and look at the smirk on your face. >> but i like charlie's question

of is there anything you can't do. i was thinking about the alex cross movie coming up, those that work with you say you know what you want and how you want it done. >> the most difficult part of that was having eight to ten hours of down time sitting in the trailer waiting for the next set up. but other than that i enjoyed it, but the trailer just came out, and the movie is great. >> he did real good. >> and didn't morgan freeman do something -- >> yeah, he did the first two, as much running and jumping, and flipping and the stunts, i think morgan would have been like, okay, you take this one. >> you made national news with the fire t tyler perry studios.

is everything okay? >> looking at it on the news, you thought everything was gone, but it was a facade. because everything is on camera, the entire fire when it started and how it happened was on film. there was a security camera, so we know it was not on purpose. >> i think it's going to do well. what would madea say? >> i hope so, honey, i do too. we'll be right back on cbs this morning. we charge everything else...

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from yankee stadium last night. yankees' left fielder duane weise appeared to catch a foul ball, which carried him into the seats. ow. the umpire called it out, but he dropped the ball as he fell over the wall, kept his glove closed. the ump was fooled. on the replay you see a fan holding the ball. he was so angry, went out to argue, ended up getting thrown out of the game. yankees went on to win 6-4. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> umpires are not always right. >> that may be the moral here. >> i think so. >> i think he knew he dropped that ball. aaron sorkin may be the only screen writer to break his nose on the job. that's because he acts out all of the parts when he's writing shows like "the newsroom." he'll tell us all about that this morning. he's joining us at the table right after the break. you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is coming up next.

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>> good morning. stockton will become the largest american city ever to declare bankruptcy. it could happen as early as this morning. city leaders approve the move last night. is currently $26 million in debt. iliana lopez testimony could cost the city of san francisco an airplane ticket. she is currently in her native venezuela. but lawyers say she is willing to testify for a trip back to california is paid for. a computer hacker is claiming to have breached san jose state's associated student website. school administrators say there is no sign that anyone's personal information has been compromised. the hacker brag about posting,,

>> for silicon valley, we have a lot of brake lights right now on westbound 237. it is bottle necking leaving milpitas. that drive time is about double what it should be between

8008101. an accident northbound 280 by john daly boulevard. slower speeds just behind the accident and then things improve just a bit. a quick look at the san the abridge or things actually look pretty good. >> a lot of clear skies, looking good around the bay area right now. outside, so far so good as we look at sunshine over nob hill right now. pretty comfortable temperatures are popping up in the '50s and '60s outside. throughout the day we will see it warmer whether. 70 degrees in san francisco. for the next couple of days we will return with,,,,,,,,,,

♪ ♪ hello, chicago. welcome back to "cbs this morning." from the west wing to a "few good men," her characters have been speaking in distinctive voiceses for nearly two decades. wow. >> you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the i guess nor rant club. in this building when the president stands, nobody sits.

>> walk with me. >> okay. >> the clock's running. no closer to answering the question. >> we're going to need a lot of snow. >> that could be a problem. >> where are you going? >> where are you going? >> following you. >> following. >> you're watching "sports night." stick around. >> let me answer that question in four parts, with the fourth part first and third part last. >> my name is bob and i'm running for president. >> my name is andrew shepherd and i am the president. >> i didn't know that. tell me more. >> you want answers? >> i think i'm sblentitled to t. >> you want answers? >> i want the truth. >> you can't handle the truth. >> you guys invented facebook, you would have invented facebook. >> you ask me if i have a god complex? let me tell you something, i am god. >> if we try to play like the yankees in here, we will lose to the yankees out there. >> tell them what we know without telling them what we know? >> you ain't james bond. >> you ain't thomas jefferson.

>> are we clear? >> yes, sir. >> are we clear? >> crystal. >> oscar emmy winning screenwriter, producer and playwright's latest project is "the newsroom." we're pleased to have aaron sorkin here in studio 57. welcome. >> good to be here. >> what did you set out to do other than produce for hbo, entertaininger isries? >> what i set out to do was to do his girl friday against a backdrop of real world events. i love those old howard hawks movies where everybody is talking fast. i love newsroom type stories, but i wanted to set it in the real world. i wanted to set it against the backdrop of real events. so our show takes place in the very recent past. all the news is real. >> a romantic comedy. what are you saying about the news? >> at romantic comedy, and it

even treats the news romantically and idealistly. these guys are on a mission to do the news well. it's a doomed mission, but, you know, we're seeing a group of underdogs try as hard as they can. >> are you speaking, aaron, about how aaron sorkin feels because some of the speeches sort of blew me away when i was watching it, or is this just a good script for you? you're writing is iconic. >> i'm a story teller. you showed a package of "money ball", the brad pitt clip, that was a movie based on michael lewis' book. when he wrote the book and i was writing the movie we were write writing about a guy trying to change baseball. neither michael nor i were trying to change baseball. we were just tell that story. so i wouldn't presume to try to change news, but it's fun to tell stories about people who are trying to change anything. >> there is a link to that, though, between "money game" and the newsroom because you are saying -- "money ball" and you were saying that you have to

follow your own instincts if you really want to succeed. >> yeah. well, i think that's a good idea. and i, you know, from time to time, get a chance to speak to younger writers, to speak to students, and they always want advice and what i'll tell them is write like yourself. don't try to write like somebody else. >> we have a clip from "the newsroom." >> i would love it. >> second episode. aaron sorkin. >> i want to go on record saying we should open with a spill. >> done. >> a spill all anyone is talking about? >> we're the ones telling them to. we're still reporting. >> i'm looking at film of an oil rig sinking into the ocean. that's a pretty good television. >> we don't do good television, we do the news. >> david karr wrote a column. you read that column, didn't you? >> i did. >> and david karr basically says that it was almost like an open letter to cnn, on the one hand you have msnbc, on the other hand you have fox. why don't you go and just do the news? >> i think he's won me a lot of presence on that. >> we're not invited you any

time soon, that's for sure. >> do you think that's good advice for cnn? you supposedly know something about cable news. >> you know, i don't know anything about cable news. i know as little about cable news as -- >> i thought the series was about cable news. >> it is. >> but you know nothing about cable news? >> as "money ball" you would not want me to be the manager of a baseball team. what these guys are doing, i think, would work very well in fictional world, just as the bartlett administration on the "west wing," that was a democratic administration that got stuff done. so i like to write in a kind of heightened reality. >> newsroom works only in a fictional environment? >> i think that the "newsroom" kind of looks and feels real and it sort of is almost within our grasp and that's what makes it great. >> you are saying to an executive producer who wants to do the news, when producers come and say, that's not what they

want. you are here to deliver ratings, not content, so let's get on with delivering ratings. >> i wouldn't do that because i think that news shows should be exempt from having to deliver ratings. >> exempt ratings. >> yes, in the old days there was a firewall between the entertainment division and news. it was "green acres" and "petticoat junction." in the news, it was supposed to be lost leaders, a public service, and you weren't expected to make money. >> this is from new york, a piece you weren't thrilled by. >> yes. go ahead. >> the sorkin lightning quick rep tift culturally elusive banter that tornadoes into a spiral of stagey one-upmanship. do you hear it in your head? is that aaron sorkin? >> it's certainly aaron sorkin to that critic.

it's not really my place to review the reviewer. >> i'm asking about you and how you write. >> yeah, i do hear it that way in my head. i act out all the parts as i'm doing it. as you said in your tease, i broke my nose writing scene from the show. >> aaron, how do you break your nose? i'm just curious. are you flailing around the room? i'm trying to figure out how that would happen. >> are you mocking me? >> i would never mock you, but i am trying to figure out how you broke your nose. >> it was a lot like you're calling me uncoordinated, not athletic. >> not to your face. >> i feel mocked. yes, there's a scene in this sunday's episode, you'll see where jeff daniels' character is about to blow a gasket. he does a classic comedy jackie gleason moves, lunges at a character and someone holds him out. i was acting out the scene.

i got very excited. i get very physical when i write. i was jumping up and down from the computer. i was facing a mirror when i was doing the moment and there was no one to hold me back. >> i want to say this before you leave. you are one of the best screenwriters, where most people give you that credit. >> thank you. >> we just lost one of them. >> sure did. >> nora ef front. >> let me say that i knew nora personally. a nicer, more generous woman, you're not likely to meet. she was always very kind to me. and by the way, was one of the people who -- as a matter of fact, early people who read "the newsroom" pilot and called hbo and said you have to do this. she wrote romantic comedy in a style we don't see much anymore. she really -- her spirit was in romantic comedy. she loved it so much.

she loved film so much. there were a lot of things she loved very much, from food to film. it's terribly sad that she's gone. we have the movies. >> thanks very much. >> may i just say you look good, aaron. your hair is lighter. you're dapper. i'm thinking, are you in love? >> it continues. time now for a final check -- >> no. i want to know. are you in love? >> i am in love. her last name is sorkin. she's 11 years ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

you're saying i'm having sex with these men outmy knowledge? >> no, same saying they all want to have sex with you. >> they do not. >> they do. >> they do not. >> do too. >> how do you know? >> because no man can be friends with a woman he finds

attractive. he always wants to have sex with her. >> so you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive. >> no, you pretty much want to nail them too. all-time favorite movie. nora ephron wrote some rather memorable scenes during her long career and was also a pretty interesting talker as our own charlie rose knows. >> when you are actually going to have your last meal, you either will be too sick to have it, or you aren't going to know it's your last meal, and you could squander it on something like a tuna melt. >> we will show you some of their most memorable interviews when we come back. you're watching "cbs this morning." ♪ i wandered around and finally found the somebody who ♪ ,,,,,,,,

♪ well you can't have a dream we've been talking this morning about nora ephron who died at a new york city hospital last night. i had the pleasure of interviewing her nearly a dozen times over the last 20 years. before we leave you this morning, we want to show you some of the best moments from those conversations. i don't know why i smile and laugh when i see your face. >> because we had fun during the break. >> we did. you seem to have it all. you've done all these things well. you know i'm telling the truth when i tell you the following. i have always thought you would make a great, great talk show host. >> thank you. >> you know i believe that. i've said it to you before. >> it's very hard. >> of course it's hard. but what you would do -- >> you could have a lot of makeup if you did it. that would be a big incentive for me. >> do you think about aging?

do you think about much -- about how you look and how old you are and -- >> i thi a lot about -- >> is vanity deep inside of you? >> yes. but i think a lot about what i want to do with the finite. and i'm very conscious of that word. number of years available to me. because you get to be a certain point, and you cannot -- you cannot behave as if -- as if the next year of your life at the age of 65 is the same as the next year of your life as 42. >> other than memories, anything else wrong with getting older? >> other than anything else wrong? >> other than -- >> is there anything right with getting older? >> wisdom? >> oh, wisdom, when you can't remember anything? is not quite there. >> oh, it's not that bad. >> you can't read, you can't see. >> in this is common fodder for you. it's not that bad. >> i don't know, charlie. i don't think it's better to be older. i don't. >> no, i don't think so either.

but i think it doesn't have to be bad. >> no, it doesn't have to be bad. >> and -- >> and you have to but you have to know at some point it will be and sooner rather than later. which is why it's very important to eat your last meal before it actually comes up. >> tell that story as how you came to that conclusion. >> well -- >> oh, i know what it was. your friend. >> my good friend, who was dying. >> could eat a hot dog -- >> she could no longer eat. and she said, i can't even have my last meal. i mean, that's what happens. but to be serious for a moment, as they say in the jokes. when you are actually going to have your last meal, you either will be too sick to have it, or you aren't going to know it's your last meal, and you could squander it on something like a tuna melt. and that would be ironic. so it's important. we all play these games at

dinner with friends where we go around the table and we say this is what i would have for my last meal. and it's -- i feel it's important to have is that last meal -- >> today. >> at least once -- today, tomorrow, soon. >> so what would you have as your last meal? >> my last meal, i -- my last meal, really, is a nate and elle's hot dog. >> of course. what else do you do today? what are the kinds of things you have said? do you do good things? do you say i want to make sure i do some good things before i leave. >> yes, just today i wrote some checks that i felt were good things, because it's the end of the year, and it's time to do things like that. and -- >> call up a friend and say just thinking about you. how are you? >> yes, i sent a friend actually a cookie that i found last week in san francisco that may be the greatest cookie ever invented. >> this is you, right there. >> there. >> you found a cookie in san

francisco. >> yeah. >> you immediately decided this is the greatest one i've ever seen, invented. >> it is. >> and i'm going to buy it and give it -- >> i'm sorry i didn't bring them to you. but i feel -- i don't know about you and cookies. >> no, that's not something i really care a whole lot about. do you think you have more insight into the female psyche or the male psyche? >> oh, i don't know. >> you main line right into what you think motivates people. >> i think i probably know more about women than men. but i do think that some of the things i've written are completely about men and women and how different they are. i mean, when "harry met sally" is not a woman about whether men and women can be friends. it's about how different men and women are. and so is "sleeplesses in seattle." and so is "you've got mail." >> are you making the sam movie over and over? >> in some ways, the same theme. because it's always about how differently men react to romance than women. yes, i do think they're -- there

are -- >> how do we react differently? >> oh, in every single way. i mean, just the initial argument in -- "when harry met sally" where she actually believes men and women can be friends and he believes men and women can't be friends because you always want to sleep the woman. now, that is just -- that is something i don't think i knew when i started out writing it. but by the time i had had spent weeks and weeks with rob reiner, who directed it, and andy shineman, who was one of the producers of it, i knew that. they told me it over and over again. so i believed it in the end. because it was just clear. >> what do you think will be the first line of your obituary? >> oh, god. i don't know. i do not know. i think about it, though. and i -- and i absolutely think about, you know, things like the importance of eating bread while you're at my age. because we're all trying so hard

to be thin, you know. >> including me. >> we're all trying so hard to be healthy and thin in an era where there is the greatest bread in the world. we have never had bread like this. in america or anywhere else. in new york, in l.a. today, you can get bread that is as good as the bread in paris. and we should not avoid it, because it might not be what we die of, too much bread, you know? >> and certain things you just ought to enjoy. of which bread is one of them. >> seize the day. >> seize the day. >> all that stuff. i'm sorry. >> your passion. >> yeah. >> nora ephron. it is -- it's hard for me, because i so much wanted her to like me. and i so much wanted her to think that i was as interesting as she was. this is what she said. so much stuff she wrote. and i just want to read you what i will miss. my kids, nick, her great husband. spring, fall, the concept of waffles, bacon, the idea of a

walk in the park, the park, shakespeare in the park. the bed, reading in bed, fireworks, the view out the window, twinkle lights and butter. this woman understood what it was to be human. >> yeah. >> like so many people don't. >> yep. >> you know? >> she had a way. she was so brilliant and so witty, charlie, about all things. that's what -- you know, she could make bread sound funny. a tuna fish sound funny. i think it's interesting, you wanted her to like you. >> oh, god. i did, pa because -- i wanted her to think -- i wanted her to like me, because i liked her so much. >> of course. >> if there is one thought about her, one, how wise she was, it is how funny she was. and how she so much made people who were around her come alive and to be -- and reach inside of themselves and to be as authentic and as funny and as witty as she was, of which none of us were. >> yeah. >> so on this day, i remember her, and all of her friends. >> yeah. >> up next, your local news. we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." ,,

>> good morning. but if you caught up on some headlines. state lawmakers are scrambling to pass almost whodunit dozen bills to meet today's budget deadline. governor brown has not signed off on a spending plan for almost two weeks now. he is asking for deeper cuts. pg&e is now claiming a test swayback in 1956 led to the deadly sambar no pipeline explosion more than half century later. the utility said that yesterday the procedure weakened and already defective welds. eight people were killed in that explosion. in just about five minutes, cool will open its annual developers' conference in san

francisco. they are expected to introduce a 7 in. tablet to compete with the apple ipad. >> gorgeous weather around the bay area with lots of sunshine. outside right now is looking great. i pressure is building in out of the southwest. seasonal temperatures around the bay area. the next couple of days we will cool things off. cooler temperatures over the weekend.

>> we still have slowed traffic out there even has the commute is starting to wind down. it looks like that as you head up towards downtown oakland. the accident is now cleared on southbound 101. still some brake lights as far back as in a bottle. across the golden gate bridge, moving fine this morning.

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