good morning to our viewers in the west. it is tuesday, july 10, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. showdown over tax cuts. republicans say president obama's plan to extend tax cuts is really just a tax hike on the wealthy. while mitt romney takes a commanding lead in the campaign fundraising battle. i'm erica hill. is law enforcement using your cell phone to spy on you? and i'm gayle king. she and her sister both won big at wimbledon. tennis champ venus williams drops by studio 57. plus, we'll talk with bonnie raitt about her big comeback. but first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds.

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nancy cortes is on capitol hill. >> good morning to you and to our viewers in the west. while republicans immediately dismissed the tax plan as a tax hike on job creators in a week economy. both sides are digging in here. even though about 98% of americans would fare just about the same. president obama officially called on congress monday to extend the low bush era tax cuts for one more year. many members believe that responsibility comes from the top down, so that if we that that will somehow unleash jobs and economic growth. >> i disagree. i think they're wrong.

>> that the president was wrong for wanting -- no taxes are going up on anybody. at the lower end of the income spectrum or -- households. >> households between $500,000 and $1 million a year. under the president's proposal. >> the republicans' plan adds about $700 billion more than the president's plan does. is it worth that much money? >> i think there's a real

dispute as to how much you look at the growth potential. if you really allow people to keep more of their hard-earned money, we'll see more confidence come back into the economy. >> the white house ups the ante, saying that the president won't sign a bill that extends the tax cuts for the top 2%. but the president has made that threat before, and had to back down when he didn't have the votes. he doesn't appear to have the votes right now. even though the white house is pushing the notion that even wealthy americans would get a tax cut under his plan because the first $250,000 of their income would be taxed at that lower rate. republicans say that's not enough. all of their incomes should be taxed at today's low levels. >> nancy cortes, thank you. this morning, house speaker john boehner underlines the republican view at a conference in washington, saying that key tax cuts for only the middle class would hurt the country's economic recovery. >> by raising taxes on those who

make more than $250,000, half of those people who are going to be taxed are small business people. and while y would we want to tae people that create jobs in this country makes no sense. >> the president will put his tax plan to voters in iowa this morning. mitt romney campaigning in colorado. >> as bill plante reports issue the former massachusetts governor is now winning the financial race by a wide margin. those numbers just coming out this week. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning across the west. you know, for two months now, the republicans and mitt romney have taken in more money than the president and the democrats. this raises the possibility that this president up until now the most prodigious fundraiser in politics could be the first to be outspent and outraised by his opponent. in june, the president raised $71 million, but he was far outpaced by the romney campaign,

which raised $106 million. the second straight month. in may, romney had the advantage by about $17 million. the obama campaign is sounding the alarm. in an email plea for donations, campaign manager jim messina wrote, the republican gap is getting wider. if it continues at this pace, it could cost the us the election. it's the cesentiment that the president has echoed. >> i need you to make in phone calls. get your family members going. >> reporter: but it's not for lack of trying. mr. obama has been fundraising at an unprecedented rate. he has done 107 fundraisers so far this year, compared to 36 for george w. bush at this time in his 2004 re-election campaign. the president has even made tucked rai fundraising calls. he outspent john mccain 3-1.

buoyed by enthusiasm from small donors as well as wall street and hollywood. but this year, wall street is far less generous and the small donors far less excited. mitt romney has had no trouble raising money from wealthy supporters. this past weekend at a dinner in the hamptons with the price of admission $75,000 a couple. the president is also warning about money from outside groups, who can raise unlimited amounts, where the gop has the financial advantage. >> the other side is spending more money than we have ever seen before. you have billionaires writing $10 million checks. yeah. they just are spending money like nobody's business. >> reporter: the one place so far in this campaign where obama campaign officials think that they have a head start is in eight key swing states, where so far they have spent $40 million in advertising compared to romney's $13 million. and campaign officials think that these ads are working in those states. but as one of them put it, these numbers are a clarion call to

our supporters. charlie, erica? >> bill, thank you very much. let's bring in chief washington correspondent and host of "face the nation" bob schieffer. good morning. >> hey. >> messina says it will cost the election if this fundraising gap continues. is that simply fundraising rhetoric or is that a real scare for the obama re-election effort? >> well, i think the obama people take this very seriously. i mean, money matters. and all you have to do is go back to the republican primaries to see an example of that. i mean, look. every time that an alternative to mitt romney, you know, sort of emerged during those primaries, romney, who had more money than all of the other candidates, simply dumped a lot of negative advertising on him, and that alternative went away. just one after the other. i think also when you listen to what bill plante was just talking about, although obama is

being -- running behind in raising money, he is spending more money in these swing states. and in those swing states, where he's running all these ads about romney and vulture capitalism and all of that, obama has the lead. whether he can keep that or not, we'll find out as this goes on. but this is certainly something when the obama people say they are concerned about it, i kind of take them at their word, charlie. >> there's also this question. they are spending that money early, the obama team, in order to define mitt romney early on. is that working? >> yes. well, it is in some of those swing states certainly or at least it seems to be. i think both of these campaigns, though, charlie, are going to have to get positive here somewhere down the line. president obama has got to give us more specifics it seems to me somewhere along the line about what it is he actually intends to do in the second term. in the same way that we are going to have to get some

specifics it seems to me from mitt romney. i mean, you know, as even his own supporters say, he's got to give us something more than just, say, we're better off without barack obama. you know, sunday on "face the nation" haley barbour was talking about it, and he said, you know, there is a lot to love about mitt romney because you'll remember john boehner, the republican house speaker, said earlier in the week he couldn't make people love mitt romney. haley barbour said, well, there's a lot to love about him, but he said in the end, ihink the election is all about defeating barack obama. i'm not sure that's right. i think both of these candidates are going to have to give us a little more to go on. but it's so close now. and it's going to be close right up until the end. >> bob, talk with us a little bit about this announcement from the president yesterday about the tax cuts. a lot of people saying this is purely political. expect denials from the white house. is it an attempt to simply move away from the numbers on the economy and friday's job report?

>> well, you can certainly make that argument. yes, i would guess that there is a political component to this. we do have an election coming here. but this is just a continuing effort to draw the line. because while the romney people are trying to make this a referendum on barack obama, the obama people are trying to make it a referendum on mitt romney. they're saying, look, if we're elected, this is what's going to happen, and if you elect him, that's what's going to happen. it's all rhetoric, though. i mean, congress is not going to pass this proposal that the president put out. this is, you know, about the 40th time he's put it out. and by the same token, congress is not going to repeal the health care law because the republicans are going to bring that to a vote in the house this week for about the 40th time. this is just all things to talk about during the election.

and that's not what this election is going to be decided on, erica. but this is just an effort to continue to draw the line, to show the differences between these two candidates. and they are both doing it. >> bob schieffer, always nice to talk with you. thanks. >> you bet. rahm emanuel used to be the president's chief of staff. now is mayor of chicago. he says washington isn't helping him do his job. scott pelley asked emanuel about the difference between the white house and the mayor's office. >> in terms of jobs, as a mayor, is washington so gridlocked now it's essentially useless to you, and you need to go out and do your own thing in the city of chicago because the help is not coming from d.c.? >> well, yes and no. i can't create an island, so that's one thing. so the decisions in washington do matter. but where i used to as a mayor

rely on washington, i'm going to try to come up with different strategies to do a breakout because i'm not going to get stuff in their dysfunctionality and i'm not going to get caught in the fact of the state. they have their own budgetary issues. i could not wait for washington to get a highway built. and even when you get it, it doesn't have everything we need to do. so we have made certain decisions about what we need to do. that's true about our mass transit system, or water and sewer system. and then 2,000 miles of road are going to get paved just for the next decade. i can't wait for washington. so i have to do that. >> you said that washington is dysfunctional. >> is that breaking news? you're not going to go live with you now, is it? >> that's how it seems to you, running the third largest city in america? dysfunctional? >> well, yeah. i have my own view of why. but on certain things, i have decided in my view to allow an

ideology to become an impasse to progress where it's a mistake. you should not be more loyal or more loyal to idealism. we have things to do in the city of chicago that have nothing to do with ideology. it is making sure that taxpayers and residents get what they deserve. >> rahm emanuel talking with scott pelley. more on that conversation later in the week. they'll be talking about jobs and the economy on "cbs evening news." kofi annan is in iran this morning to trying to get support for his latest peace effort in syria. he met with syrian president bashir al assad on monday. and there is now a growing refugee issue in turkey. we have a report from the syrian border on that story. >> reporter: there are currently more than 36,000 syrian refugees living here inside turkey, and 300 more are making the journey across the border every single

day to try to escape the fighting and violence inside their country. tensions along this border have really racheted up in the last couple of weeks after the syrian military shot down two turkish pilots. the turkish military has responded by bolstering its presence along this border. and one official here told us that, quote, we are ready to meet any challenges that the syrian military is going to try to put to us. meanwhile, kofi annan, u.n.'s special envoy in damascus yesterday, saying that he and president al assad have agreed on a joint approach to ending the violence, but opposition members saying that annan's peace plan has lost all credibility and there's no peace plan to allow assad to stay in power of any sort. time now to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. the "wall street journal" reports that google is close to paying a $22.5 million fine for

violating the privacy of mac users. google is charged with using a special code to trick privacy settings on apple's software. google says it was unintentional. this would be the largest government fine ever on a single company. students saying school is too easy. "usa today" quotes a report from the center for american progress, a washington think tank in the study. 37% of fourth graders said their math work is often or always too easy. 57% of eighth graders said the same hing. "the new york times" reports that 70 students at one of new york city's top high schools are involved in a cheating scandal. school officials say they used smartphones to cheat on state exams. several students could be suspended and all of them will have to retake the test. and britain's "telegraph" says north korea's new leader enjoyed an unauthorized disney show. a concert featured performers dressed as mickey and mini

mouse, and footage of movies like "snow white" and "dumbo." disney says it did not approve it. a blistering heat wave has broken in most of the country. however, the two weeks of scorching temperatures helped to break the u.s. -- helped the u.s. break a record for the hottest first half of the year dating back to 1895. every state in the lower 48 except washington and oregon had warmer than average temperatures, and 28 of those states set records.,,

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this is some video of a this is a video of a fight. it happened outside of a florida courtroom after a hearing in a double murder case. the family of the victims and the suspect as you can see here start punching and kicking. for unknown reasons both families were allowed to leave the courtroom together. court officers admit that was a mistake. welcome back to "cbs this morning." as we first told you on monday, law enforcement agencies are more interested in our cell phones than ever. providers told congress that last year they received 1.3 million requests for information about subscribers. that disclosure is raising questions about user privacy and why the information is being gathered in the first place. senior correspondent john miller, former top official at the nypd and fbi is joining us. good morning. >> good morning. >> what are they looking for?

>> they're looking for records. people see these stories and after the headline they think, they're all listening in. what they're looking for is all of that stuff that we have in our devices. when you think about what's in your blackberry, iphone, cell phone, it's not just the numbers you call, there are text messages in there. there's other data. there's geo location data of where you were and when. >> is the number a large number? >> it sounds like a lot, 1.3 million requests, but when you consider there's 300 million americans, there's 18,000 law enforcement agencies spread across the country, it's not that big a number. >> but is it indicative that law enforcement officials are going to do more and more and more? >> i think it is, and i think it's -- i think it's kind of driven by the changing role of the cell phone. first of all, it used to be, you know, you had your phone at home and your phone at work and it was a big deal to get those records. now everybody has two or three

devices and when you get into a criminal organization, they have two or three devices and they change them out every couple of weeks on the idea of staying a step ahead of law enforcement so the numbers grow. >> who are they -- you mentioned, you know, if it's a suspected criminal they're going after, does the average american have to worry about law enforcement trying to look at their records? >> not really. the average american is kind of out of the loop here. now let me just qualify that, which is, let's say a terrorism investigation. you come up as a suspect. i'm the fbi agent and i say, i need to know about this person so i'm going to say, i'm trying to figure out are they part of a cell. let me take their phone records and use that to map who is their social network. if i'm going to identify who might be criminal associates, who might be involved in a plot, let's see who they call the most. >> what about privacy concerns? because a lot of people have voiced concerns, including congressman ed markey, valid?

>> privacy concerns are valid. so the question is when a law enforcement agency goes for these records, have they established a proper purpose? is it attached to a legitimate investigation? is there a record of that? and if they were to go back on that and look at it, could they justify this is why we're interested in this person and this is why that circle grew out into others. but basically these work on a step ladder of intrusiveness so the first thing, the least intrusive is, what are your toll records? who are you calling? you know, next up the line would be geo location. where were you when you made those calls. next up the line would be the real time toll record. that's a pen register. that means as you dial the number. now we're into court order territory. you've got to go to a judge to get that. as you dial a number it's fed in real time to law enforcement. the last piece in order of

intrusiveness of course is a wire tap but most of this that they're talking about is just transactional records. >> ed, how much of that is linked to terror and the fear of terror? >> a lot. there's a different standard there. nobody wrote this down in a book or anything, but the reality is if somebody goes in and sticks up the bank on the corner and shoots the guard and runs away, nobody holds hearings to say why didn't the police and fbi know about this beforehand and stop it. if somebody places a bomb on a subway train somewhere, everybody's going to want to know why didn't we have this intelligence, why didn't we look at this person, why didn't we look at the people they were connected to. so there's a lot of that in terrorism investigations which is developing whose the person and who are the people around them in communications. >> thanks, john. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. after a string of health problems, the williams sisters won their wimbledon title this weekend. venus williams is here looking at that victory and ahead to the olympics. >> tomorrow the legendary stevie nicks and talking about her

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can you imagine you're in this situation? let me set the scene for you. in new jersey, a teenager, you can see, jumps off a chair lift. apparently, she was stranded with her friend as a violent thunderstorm was approaching. the ride had stopped. in a panic, the girl kicks off her shoes and jumps. she fell 35 feet, was only bruised, amazingly. her friend actually got off safely after she put the power back on. i don't ever want to be in that situation. welcome back to "cbs this morning." for 20 years now -- for 12 years now, venus williams has been winning championships at wimbledon. this weekend, she won the women's doubles with her sister, serena, their 13th grand slam doubles title. however, venus lost in the first round of the women's singles, another setback as she battles effects of an autoimmune disease. she joins us now in studio 57 and we're thrilled to have her here. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> great to see you. how was this wimbledon for you, was it bittersweet? >> no, it was a great experience

for serena and i. obviously, watching her in the stands in the final, i felt like i played that match. i was sitting there, i was so nervous. i've never been so nervous. i just wanted her to have that feeling. so, it was a great wimbledon for me, for all of us. >> and she came right back and played the doubles as much as she faced, she was right there with you for the doubles. >> and we've done that a handful of times, you know? it's such an honor to be in the singles final . and to be in the doubles finals, it's like, wow. i can't believe we're in both finals. so we wanted to kind of sweep. >> at your very best and at her very best, one on one, who wins? >> well, i don't think that's a fair question, because i mean, i'd have to say me, she'd have to say her and then there would be a big feud and the friendly sisterhood would be over. but we believe in so much and at the same time, we have so much self-belief. i guess the match would just go on and on. it wouldn't end. >> you had to be impressed with the serve, the way she was serving at bibserve

ing at wimbledon. >> oh, my god, the serve! i was thinking, at some point, i've got to be able to handle that. it was so impressive, and everyone, all of our family in the stands, whenever she would get down, we were like, we know the serve's coming, so it was awesome. >> you've got that weapon, you can -- >> yeah. >> do you like playing her, though? because you are very close, very supportive of one another. >> yeah. >> do you like being across the net from her? >> yeah. i mean, that's the age-old question. we've been playing each other since the first time was 1998, so it's been 14 years. it was our dream, to play each other in major finals and we've been able to do that. we've lived our dream. >> so, in the end, you have to say that what your dad envisioned and what your mom envisioned and what has really worked, i mean, it has done everything -- >> wow, yeah. >> -- that you hoped for, everybody. >> yeah. i think one amazing thing in life is to be able to live your dreams and we've been able to live beyond our dreams, and i would have never thought that

that would happen, you know? so, it's very surreal, and the best part is that we still get to do this. >> and two years ago, we were worried whether she would play. >> yeah. >> top flight tennis again. >> yeah. so, she went through a lot of health scares, but the best part is that, you know, the human spirit, especially serena's, is very resilient. >> and yours. how was your fight with illness? >> yeah, we both had issues, and you know, diagnosed with autoimmune disease. and for me, that gave me a lot of answers, and throughout that, i had to change my diet as well. so, i had to make a lot of changes. >> but you've never looked better. >> well, thank you very much. thank you. i became a raw vegan, and i'm not perfect, but i forgive myself when i make mistakes and i do a lot of juicing as well, a lot of wheat grass shots. i do a lot of my wheat grass shots at jamba juice, actually, lots of fresh juices and things like that. >> for people who aren't familiar, you mentioned an

autoimmune disease, something called sjogren's syndrome. what's that actually do to you and your body? >> the thing with autoimmune disease is that it can manifest in so many different ways. so, it affects the whole body. and for sjogren's, it's dry eyes and dry mouth are the hallmark symptoms, but fatigue can be so heavy that sitting in a chair is a huge effort. so, as a professional athlete, if you have fatigue, then that's tough. >> yeah. >> you can also have joint pain, you can also have issues with your internal system. so for me, fatigue is something that i'm always working on. >> right. >> i've made huge improvements since i was first diagnosed, so that has been huge for me, and it's a journey that i continue on, but definitely changing my diet has -- >> helped a lot. >> -- made a big difference. >> you talked about when this became a dream for you, you said in the past that initially it was your dad's dream. when did it become your dream,

though, that you have now achieved? >> well, i think he made it our dream from the very beginning. like growing up, he would say pick one tournament you want to win the most and i picked wimbledon and serena picked wimbledon, too. she always copied me. i said you have to pick your own tournament, so he said u.s. & open. but as it turned out, it became wimbledon for both of us, so. >> in the end what was it that he had and understood? because what you two have done for tennis and have achieved in tennis is unparalleled, is remarkable. >> it's just been a blessing. honestly, i give so much credit to my mom and dad. my dad was a visionary when it came to how he wanted us to play tennis and how we played was his dreams, so we were the students and we went out, and essentially, he changed the game of tennis. it wasn't just us. he was the mastermind behind it. so, you know, he should have a lot of credit for that. >> is there too much grunting in tennis? >> i grunt. >> i know you do. >> sorry. >> give us your best grunt. >> i have to tell you -- we have

to do segment two with you and me. >> that's a good idea. >> yeah. >> but is there too much or do you think it's necessary, and therefore, if it's dist distrac so be it? >> for me, i see the ball and that's it. that's all i see. i don't hear anything. and when the match is over, then i enjoy, hopefully, some applause and people enjoyed the play. but i think that the serious competitors, you don't hear anything. you're in the zone on the court. >> i was going to say, this is what they mean by being in the zone. >> yeah. >> great to have you here. >> thank you so much.

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gayle is here with us coming up in our next hour. gayle? >> did i just hear venus challenge you to tennis on the roof? >> i think so. >> she did, and i would be thrilled by just the opportunity to hit with her. i have such admiration. >> i wonder who would win that one, charlie rose. >> i don't think it would be a question of winning. it's the experience. >> i'm with you. i'm with you. well, we have something to talk about with bonnie raitt. after a year off, her new cd is getting rave reviews. we'll also have the story of a wall street con man who pulled off a $450 million fraud, and that could be the most normal thing about him. elijah wood will be live in studio 57. he's worked with elves, hobbits and dwarfs and now is best

frie >> it is 756. it has been a busy morning for local firefighters. when fire destroyed a contra costa county house known for its christmas time decorations. the house on walnut street was also the scene of a fire in january. santa clara county crews had their hands full with a fire in saratoga. county fire says the house has been vacant. there were no reports of any there were no reports of any injuries.

>> an accident on westbound interstate 80 approaching central ave. we see a lot of brake lights so it is pretty jammed up. here are drive times for you. 35 minutes on westbound interstate 80. heavy coming out of the altamont pass. fog will be an issue this morning, pretty thick across the golden gate bridge. >> it is a spare the air de. we have dense fog showing up around the coast. you cannot even see the golden gate bridge. temperatures this afternoon and lean meat under mostly sunny skies well into the nineties, seventies and eighties around the ,,,,,,,, ♪

♪ it was take your father to workday for prince william on monday. that's a twist. prince charles visited his son at the royal air force base wales where william is stationed. charles and it his wife camilla are on a vacation to wales. welcome back to "cbs this o cf1o morning." i love it when you can say, dad, this is what i do. welcome. nice. >> i'm a prince and you may be a king. >> that's right. >>le i'm charlie rose with erica hill. on monday the dea unveiled a plan to fight oxycontin. it's a powerful painkiller. >> under the new plan drug companies will have to train health professionals to safely prescribe the drug. here to explain all of this, dr. christopher ga reba is the

director of pain medicine. this is a voluntary program. do you feel it goes far enough? are you happy with it? >> generally speaking it doesn't go far enough. it only covers long acting opioids. for example, vicodin and percocet and the bottom line is that it's not mandatory. it's something that's elective. what we do know is that during our training we don't get enough experience, enough knowledge to prescribe these medications. >> if it's giving you more experience or more knowledge is it a step in the right direction? >> it's a step in the right direction. it's more comprehensive. a lot eds to be done at the medical school level and at the residency level to increase the education. >> why not make it mandatory? >> it's headed in that direction. i think it may occur, for example, at the hospital level, for you to be credentialed at the hospital. you may have to take a course and do well on it for you to be credentialed. it can occur at the state level for you to get your dea license you would have to take a test and do an audit.

it needs to be more comprehensive and be at the federal level. >> what's the problem here, doctors don't understand or appreciate the fact that people can become addicted to these painkiller prescriptions and before they know it there's a problem? >> i think it's something that we understand the knowledge but also we underappreciate and don't do enough about. i think there's a lot of opioid prescribing where we overrely on the marks as opposed to a good combination plan that incorporates medications that are not opioids as well as a good bit of a therapy plan and a psychological plan to bring it under control. often it's more than pain. >> the medical school, isn't that what medical schools are for? teaching doctors? >> absolutely. it's something that we began to understand in the last decade or so. the pain is much more difficult to understand. >> how serious is the problem. some of the numbers i was reading, it's staggering to me.

>> it's huge. it's an astounding problem. currently what's happening is there are more people that prescribe opioids and opioid overdose than car accident related deaths. >> what are we learning about pain? >> what we're learning about pain is that it's not as simple as treating it with a single medication. it needs a more comprehensive plan. it needs a biopsychosocial plan to bring it under control. >> what does that mean? >> it's got to be a good clinical indication. psychosocial circumstances as well. we've got to sort of step away from just looking at pain's course. we've got to look at patient's function, putting them back to work. a good psychological and social and physical function is the end point, not a pain score. >> and what about something like doctor shopping which we've heard more about in the last few years and some of the onus on patients? >> i think patient education needs to be part of it as well and it is part of the initiative. i think doctors need better

tools to prevent doctor shopping. it's something that's quite pervasive. you have patients traveling hundreds of miles, thousands of miles across state lines just so they're not trapped in getting multiple physicians prescribing to them. >> is there a way to prevent that if you're talking about these distances? >> yes, there is. it needs to occur at the state and federal levels, but there could be real time prescription monitoring. >> are you talking about specific types of pain?pain? pain is such a broad category, dr. gharibo. it can mean so many different things to so many different people. >> yes. i'm specifically referring to chronic pain, low back pain, migraines, whole variety of different chronic pain presentation, not acute pain. it starts at the acute pain level. often you may get your knee replaced. you're given, let's say, 90 vicodins, 120 vicodins, that's a

>> rolling stone calls rolling stone calls bonnie raitt one of the top 100 singers of all time and one of the top 100 guitar lists as well. this morning we'll hear why she& took a year off and finally came back. bonnie's story right after the break. you're watching "cbs this morning." [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink?

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♪ let's give them something to thank you, very much. >> thank you, charlie. >> so glad to see you again. >> oh, my goodness. >> oh, stop. >> oh, goodness. >> it's so nice that somebody can make me blush. i'm telling you. >> bonnie raitt, back in a moment. night line continues. >> charlie rose! >> oh, my gosh. >> 24 years ago. >> charlie rose. and you're kissing women on the

lips after the interview. how does that work? >> i don't know. i'm so embarrassed. >> is this -- >> fire whoever found this video immediately. this moment was back in 1988 as the nine-time grammy winner was on her way to the top of the music world. >> you looked really good, too. you looked really good. >> 24 years later she's back on tour with her first album in 24 years. anthony mason is in the studio. >> good morning, gayle. bonnie raitt has always loved playing live, but in 2010 she shut down her career. she even stopped touring after her older brother, steve, lost his long battle with brain cancer. >> this new record was really a joy for me. i needed to take a little break and i did. >> i wanted to take a year off after he passed away and just collect -- collect myself. my brother's cancer fight was heroic and he lived another eight years longer than we expected him to, but when he

went, it was rough. so sometimes it's important to just accept that you need to let those feelings out and not cover them up ♪ you took a part of me ♪ that i really missed >> reporter: bonnie raitt spent last year away from the stage, but the blues never left her. >> reporter: how did you find that year? >> challenging and very necessary and ultimately restorative. you know, kind of like winter. >> reporter: so at what point did you suddenly say, i'm ready to get back? >> part of it was i've had enough of this life. ♪ ♪ i keep asking myself how long can it go on like this? ♪ >> reporter: now she's back and her new album, "slip stream" is earning raitt some of the best reviews of her career. that's saying a lot for a woman already in the rock and roll hall of fame ♪ are you ready for a thing called love ♪

>> reporter: rolling stone ranked you one of the top 100 singers and guitarists. >> very nice. >> reporter: i don't think there are a lot of people on that list nkts at least not the women. ♪ >> reporter: commercial success came slowly for raitt after her first nine albums failed to break through. the singer was actually dropped by her label in 1983. >> reporter: were you worried at that point? >> no. i was just pissed. ♪ i can't make you love me >> reporter: raitt was also struggling with drug and alcohol problems at the time, but she cleaned up her act and in 1989 came back with the number one album, "nick of time" which won three grammys, including album of the year. at age 40, bonnie rait was suddenly a superstar. >> when i got the grammys it was such an unreal thing. nobody expected me to win them

♪ they think we're lovers ♪ undercover >> reporter: her follow-up album "luck of the draw" won another three grammys. it sold nearly 8 million albums and produced her biggest hit. ♪ let's give them something to talk about ♪ >> reporter: but raitt understood fame could be fleeting. >> i didn't want that career based on a hit single. like my dad, i wanted to be slow and steady. ♪ if i loved you >> reporter: her father was the legendary broadway leading man, john raitt who starred in shows like "oklahoma" and "carrousel." bonnie would go to singsing school in their swimming pool. >> we'd sing together and i got some quality dad/daughter time alone. we swam with our heads out of the water. he was a human jukebox. what about this one? he would sing that. >> reporter: that must have been really cool? >> it was extremely cool. ♪ won't you take me back

>> of all the duet partners i've had, he's the best. ♪ >> reporter: at 62 raitt's voice, as one critic put it, is still sounding like the sonic equivalent of a glass of southern comfort. and the red head can still break your heart with a ballad ♪ i know i need your love. you've got that hold over me ♪ >> i feel i'm supposed to sing about that it's so painful. >> reporter: how do you feel like that's one of the things you need to do or you're supposed to do? >> well, i worked from the time i was a little girl, since i fell for you, since i was 11 that song has pierced me. how can you have your heart break at 11 or 12? i don't know. that stuff goes in there. >> you said in one of your songs, "nick of time" is my middle name. >> yes. >> reporter: is it still? >> considering how much -- i shouldn't say this. i am happier out here.

i love my life at home, but it's more fun out here. >> reporter: of all the great moments you've had, do you have a favorite? >> oh, i don't know. there's so many. every time i step out on the stage. every time it's new. it hasn't lost any of the thrill. >> easy to love that woman, isn't it? >> she looked very nice. sounds great. i didn't get a kiss, charlie. >> i suspect that can be arranged. >> oh! charlie's going to make a phone call. >> she does have it, doesn't she? >> oh, so magnificent on stage. again, in the middle of this, "i can't make you love me" it still sounds like the first time. >> "nick of time". >> those albums, before i did this, a couple months before, i pulled the "nick of time" and pulled the other album that cat polted her. it's great to rediscover

something you knew you loved and to love it all over again. >> most of them, the really good ones, just love it on the road. >> you've got to have to kind of, right? if you want to be out there, as she talks about it, you know, it's a relationship you have to renew every night. >> yes. >> it feeds everything about you. >> and she obviously loves that relationship. >> she looks good, sounds good. really good. that was really nice. >> yeah, it's great. >> you brought back memories. >> for all of us, not just charlie. >> charlie's may be a little clearer than ours. >> that is true. >> or not. >> thank you, anthony mason. >> pleasure. how much do women really spend on clothes? we've got the answer. we'll make that long story short on "cbs this morning." ♪ then i saw your face, saw the edge of my horizon ♪ ♪ i wasn't the only one ♪ the lonely one

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you know, i'm not into the social media thing, so that's why i'm worried that you've got to get out there. i don't tweet. i know you were fooling around with it. >> can't do it. >> no, i can't either! i, well, i don't want to tell everybody i just had a great cookie, you know? >> mm-hmm. >> before twitter, nobody told everyone they had a great cookie except the crazy guy, the crazy guy who was on the corner. i had a great cookie! i had a great cookie! he was crazy then, and now he has followers. >> yeah, that's right. >> that's one way of looking at it. >> one way of looking at it. >> if someone says i did have a good cookie. we looked around the web this morning and found a few reasons to make some "long stories

short" for you this morning. the "l.a. times" reports katie holmes and tom cruise reached a settlement before you could say "mission: impossible." they separated 11 days ago and say they're committed to the best interests of their 6-year-old daughter, suri. the "new york post" says mayor bloomberg has a context to develop micro apartments in new york city. they're larger than a jail cell, smaller than many other places. the micro units have a bathroom, a kitchen, sleeping and dining areas. i've got to tell you, too, my sister lives in a 400-square-foot one-bedroom with a 2-year-old and a dog. >> is she happy? >> she's got a great husband and a great kid. >> well, then she's happy. >> but they would like more space. >> don't we all? okay, here's a question for women in the audience. how much do you spend on clothes? radio station mix 98.1 in orlando says a study says the average women will spend $130,000 on her clothes during her lifetime.

so, that includes, they say, 271 pairs of shoes, 185 dresses, 145 bags or purses, erica -- >> accessories are important, as we know. >> accessories very important. by the way, they say age matters. the younger the woman, the more she will spend. >> i could see that. >> yeah, i could see. a rapper's delight for you now. jay-z is selling nearly half of the seats for his upcoming concert in his native brooklyn for only $29.50 apiece. 7,000 tickets at the rock-bottom price. he says he's giving back to his hometown. these days it seems the fees you pay are more than that. so we like that. >> another reason to love jay-z. and the san francisco "chronicle" tells us about a teacher who is facebook status was brought to fired. she demanded her students turn over their cell phones during the class. one was caught using the cell phone and alice did not back down. alice was then fired by the fitness contract she worked for,

>> good morning. let's get you caught up with some of the bay area headlines. a house known for its christmas decorations was destroyed by an early-morning fire. pg&e is still trying to stop a gas leak at that property. it is the second time it has burnt. it has also been a busy morning for firefighters in santa clara county with a fire at 2:00 this morning in saratoga. that house was vacant and there are no reports of injuries. the fire appears to have started somewhere near the raj. touse children civil lawsuits against their father is in prison for killing his wife in

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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." reporter and author ghe lawson has covered everything from drug wars to ice hockey. >> and his new book covers one of the most bizarre and compelling real-life characters in history, a powerful hedge fund manager who engineered a massive fraud. the book is called "octopus," sam israel, the wall street market and the wildest con. guy lawson is joining us now. we're pleased to have him.

tell us who sam israel was. >> he ran a hedge found called bayou, a high-tech, high-velocity fund that was really a state-of-the-art thing to the average investor, to the sophisticated investors lucky enough to get invested at the time. he was kind of a breed of a wall street hedge fund hero. or at least that's how he appeared to people. >> he was very cocky, by his own description, very cocky and arrogant. was fascinates me about the book is you start out by telling us that he said to you, i'm going to be brutally honest, even if it makes me look bad, i'm going to tell you the truth as i know it, but also know that i'm a liar and i'm a self-confessed con man. so, how did you know what to believe with this fantastical tale he was telling you? >> reporting. i've spent three years at this and i had all these documents, everything you could possibly have to check the facts out, to make sure that what he was saying checked out, and you know, the amazing thing to me is the crazier the story got, the truer it got, you know. this is a man who probably

became infamous for faking his own suicide. >> right. >> after he was convicted and sentenced to 20 years, he ran away and then fooled the fbi. they really had no idea where he was. he turned himself in. so, he's a master of deception as well as a master of delusion. >> what's the most interesting thing about this story for you? >> for me, it's the way in which -- so, i started talking to him in september of 2008. three weeks later, the global financial crisis hit. sam was telling me this story that sounded cooky about a secret bond market in europe and the shadow and the federal reserve's a ponzi scheme. and i don't know if you remember that moment in november and december of 2008 when it just looked like there was no truth to wall street? >> how could you not remember? >> yes, yes. >> so, sam was telling this story as that was unfolding, and that's when i knew i had a book. i knew that sam, who was a true insider -- his family's one of the most prominent wall street families -- or not wall street, commodity trading families in history. very successful people, friends with alan greenspan, sandy wile, larry tisch, big-time wall street people. sam had been inside the room growing up around these people,

so when he was telling me that this was all a big con, i decided that i really ought to listen. >> and after all this, why did he turn himself in? >> deborah ryan, his girlfriend. he couldn't take that he was destroying her life. they arrested her and charged her. and to this day, you know, that's i think his biggest regret. i mean, he really -- >> he regrets that he got her involved? >> yeah. >> yeah, that he got her involved. >> he's very remorseful about the investors he hurt. another thing that's interesting about sam is, you know, people have this idea of the hedge fund person, bernard madoff who was really a monster, a psychopath. sam is a human being. sam was always trying to fix the problem, get over. he didn't want to be a criminal. it's just circumstances came along, he couldn't admit to failure, and so he bought himself time and the lie grew and grew and grew. and so, at the end of it, he's $150 million down, he's got $150 million bucks, what would you do? >> then he gets conned, guy. then he gets conned. it's sort of like it takes one to know one. so, how much money does he lose

ultimately? and then he gets involved with another shady deal. >> yeah. so, what happens is that, as i say, he's down this massive amount of money, he's trying to get something something. his idea is it's america. >> to pay somebody back. >> it's america. nobody cares how you make the money, just make it. he falls in with this alleged cia guy who says there's a secret market. and you know, it sounds cooky, but this is one of the largest international crime, unprosecuted crime -- they call it the crime of the century -- these fake bonds. even right now, someone's watching, thousands of people are watching who have invested in these fake bonds. it's a $10 billion industry that the fbi is pretty much hopeless to stop. >> when you wrote this, do you think this is a movie? >> i did. [ laughter ] >> there for you. >> guy, it is a movie. it is a movie. there are layers and layers and layers. and you talk about bernie madoff. they're in the same prison facility. >> yes. >> so -- >> north carolina. >> yeah, your home state of north carolina. you must be so proud.

what's the difference between the two? do you really, do you think sam is a sympathetic character, sam israel? was he a sympathetic character, to you? >> sympathetic is a word, is a good word, but it's more like he's a complicated human character. he's somebody that you can relate to as he moves through his life. bernie madoff was just a crazy guy. >> so, i said to you in the beginning, who was he. who is he now? >> sam is himself, you know? i think he feels like the 20 years -- white-collar crime was terribly underpunished and now it's being terribly overpunished. what's the point of putting -- he's not a violent person, although in the book -- >> he doesn't belong in jail? >> oh, i think he does. and it's not for me to decide, but sam feels 20 years is outrageous, and i'm, you know, i'm canadian, so i kind of begin -- >> so, you're polite. >> i kind of begin at the not america sentences. i feel like 20 years is a lot. >> not violent, but he does confess to murder in the book. >> he does.

but i think what upset people the most is he made people look ridiculous, and that's kind of the unforgivable sin. he made wealthy, smart people look ridiculous. and you know, there's a lot of people on wall street who kind of get a little nervous when they hear about this stuff because maybe they've got something a little hinky going on, or maybe they don't know what they're investing in themselves. >> bernie madoff did a bit of that, too. >> he did. >> a lot of smart people made serious mistakes because of the story that he was -- >> the thing about madoff's story, it was all whispery. sam's is sophisticated. he was trading. he was really trading and he was a good trader. >> thank you. >> thank you, guy lawson. >> thank you. >> the name of the book is "octopus," now on sale at your favorite place for buying books. there is another book about an outrageous character some people say. do you think you know everything about mick jagger? maybe not so fast. hear what a biographer s,,

♪ can you hear me knocking you'd think after half a century in the spotlight, mick jacker has no secrets left. well, it turns out there's a lot of things we never knew about the legend. >> one reporter has been covering the rock star for legends and is covering it all in "mick: the wildlife and mad genius of mick jagger." christopher andersen is with us at the table. good morning. nice to see you! >> good morning. good to be here. >> there are a lot of things that probably wouldn't surprise people about mick jagger, and yet, you managed to find a few. >> i think people have forgotten about his various incarnations over the years, you know? he started out as a kind of street tough guy who was sold into the stones as the flip side of the beatles, the clean-cut beatles. he became the street fighting man, leading revolutions in the street during the antiwar movement and what not. then he morphed into kind of a glittering fawn during the bisexual androgenous '70s, back to rock, and he never lost sight of who he was.

we never doubted we were seeing mick jagger on stage. i think what's interesting is when he was 30, he said i'd rather die than be 45 and still singing "satisfaction," and yet -- >> and he's still going strong. the stones celebrate their 50th anniversary. >> and he turns 69 in a few weeks. >> and you see him on stage. he has an incredible -- i mean when you see him perform, that man has so much energy. >> and phenomenally, a tremendous discipline, and the great thing from the story is his family story. he is a guy who, the dutiful son, devoted to his parents. his dad was a strict pe teacher, professor, who when he was a kid said get down there and do 100 push-ups. he's taken that through his life. tremendous physical discipline. he is in great shape. and i think it's great to see this guy who's been doing it for 50 years about some of his contemporaries were down three decades ago. >> i'm fascinated how you're able to write books about people without talking to the person you're writing about, and in such detail. >> well, i talk to the people who know them best, wives, people who worked for them for

decades from the beginning, family members, friends, co-workers, mistresses, lovers in mick's case. by one count, 4,000. he's been a busy boy. i'm no paragon of virtue and he's right. >> how do you know they're telling the truth, ex-wives or ex-lovers? >> i started covering them in 1969, the altamont rock festival. i worked at it for "time" magazine, worked in the business for 46 years and i'm careful to confirm every fact that's in the book, so i stand by everything. i never take anything in that isn't confirmed by various sources and the sources are listed in the book. >> do you think mick will be asking you to dinner any time soon? >> i don't expect a thank-you note, but here's the thing. this is a guy, if he wants -- he lives his entire life to shock us, i think. >> do you think he deliberately wants to shock? is that what you think? >> absolutely. i think he always has. i think he's been out there living kind of an outrageous life. he does also have personal problems. jerry hall proclaimed after putting up with his infidelity

for 23 years that he was a sex addict and she asked him to get help. keith asked him to get help and they were thrilled when he sought help from a sex therapist until he seduced the sex therapist. that's the kind of guy we're dealing with, somebody who has personal demons and compulsions, i think. >> but we're also dealing with a guy who is tremendously talented. >> oh, absolutely. >> i mean, when you look at the tapestry of mick jagger's life, all that he's accomplished, and he's super smart. >> unbelievable. >> super smart, and i think that's something people don't really -- you talk about his degree in economics. >> went to the london -- >> he is a really smart guy. >> a financial genius, a personal fortune symptom estimated at $400 million. he is the force behind the stones. he has been responsible for these incredible tours, the rolling stones have five of the top ten grossing tours of all time. they've earned $2 billion on the road. they have sold 250 million records, and he's the guy that's held them all together, and he stood by keith richards, by the way. keith wrote his own book a couple years ago and keith said

some unkind things about mick, and that really caused a huge rift in their relationship. >> but was that really a secret, that in many ways, there's been no -- i mean, there's been a lot of back-and-forth and tension between the two of them. >> right, but for some reason, it really got to mick this last time because keith called mick an annoying bird, unbearable and unsufferable and impossible to work with and said he didn't know him anymore. and worst of all, he casted dispersions on mick's anatomy. he's done this before and it just got to him. for a time there, it looked like it might be the end of their working relationship. they got back together after keith apologized repeatedly and publicly, but not in time to launch the 50th anniversary tour this year, so they're going to postpone that until next year. >> you said you've been covering the stones for a long time. why did you decide now's the time to write something is th? >> 50th anniversary. i looked back and said, gosh, hard to think of anyone who has had the impact on our culture,

on the world's culture, that mick jagger's had. he's a genuine, you know, force of nature, and i think it was time to write it. >> well, listen, i'm a big rolling stones, mick jagger fan here, so -- >> well, this is a book by a fan, too, so. >> are you a fan? >> are you kidding? >> this doesn't sound very friendly. please don't write any books about me. >> it's the whole truth. >> i don't think you'd have to worry about that book, though. >> my life is really square. you'd get something. thank you. >> thank you. >> "mick" is on sale today wherever you like to buy books. we've seen elijah wood grow up on screen as he's here to talk about a good friend he has. his friend's name is wilfred. hi, elijah. >> hello. >> he joins us at the table. i can hear you! >> he can hear us! >> elijah joins us at the table after this break. hello. ♪ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

♪ we have been watching elijah wood for more than two decades, first as a gifted child actor, then as frodo in "the lord of the rings" trilogy. >> now he's beginning season two of the hit comedy series "wilfred." he becomes a lawyer who becomes friends with his neighbor's dog, although he sees the dog as a man in a dog suit. elijah wood is joining us this morning. one with an australian accent and -- >> right. >> some interesting habits. >> yeah, some rude proclivities. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> tell us more about this relationship, because wilfred, you see this man in a dog suit -- >> yes. >> even though technically it's a dog everybody else sees, and it's kind of a coping mechanism. >> it is, yeah. my character is not entirely

well. we met him in the first season kind of at -- he reaches sort of an impasse in his life. and at that very moment, he meets his neighbor's dog, whom he sees as a man in a dog suit who kind of starts offering him life advice and pushes him to do things that he wouldn't normally do, and ultimately it frees him of sort of the shackles that he's been living under. so, it is kind of an internal coping mechanism. you can kind of draw your own conclusions. it's a bit like "harvey." did you ever see "harvey"? >> yes, yes, yes. >> something like that. >> harvey's a rabbit. >> that's right. >> you manage to make it work. it's the type of thing when you read the script, you go, okay, it's a dog and i only see the dog. >> yeah. >> very different from the frodo characters. was that what you wanted to do? were you thinking i want to be so far removed from that? >> yeah, i suppose it's easy to be different than the frodo character. frodo's 3'6" and lives in a

shire. but yeah -- >> it's a comedy, that's what i mean. >> it is, totally. and i think as an actor, i'm always looking for a new challenge and a new experience. and the notion of doing a television show was also kind of an exciting thing for me as well. i've never been on television. i love where television's going in terms of story-telling. and the opportunity to do something in the comedy space was exciting. >> it's interesting you say that. what do you mean about where television has gone in story-telling? >> well, i mean, i'm a huge fan of things like "game of thrones" or "breaking bad," "madmen" -- >> i love "breaking bad." >> just incredible story-telling with amazing writers and actors that have -- >> indeed. >> episodic television becoming, you know, having an art. >> absolutely. whereas with the film, you've only got 2 1/2 hours to tell a character's journey. and obviously in a television show, you can tell, you know, much more in-depth stories over a longer period of time. >> was the relationship with

peter jackson a great relationship for you? >> wonderful, yeah. hugely influential in my life. i was 18 when i left for new zealand, and i kind of, you know, became a man during that process, making those films, and -- >> is it true he gave you the ring? >> he did. >> he did? >> yeah. >> i didn't believe that. wow. where is it? >> it's in a pouch that's in kind of a decorative box that's in another box, and i keep it in a crawl space. >> that is a treasure. i also read you like to deejay. is that true? >> mm-hmm. >> i couldn't imagine that. lay something on me. let me hear. how do you do it? >> well, i started actually in new zealand, funnily enough. >> a deejay. >> yeah. then i moved to ipods and now i play with vinyl. i'm a huge music fan. >> me, too. >> i buy a lot of records. >> so, are you talking while deejaying or just playing -- >> no, just playing records. >> you're just an old-school emcee, as the kids of today would say. >> yes, ma'am. >> how do you play with vinyl today? >> it's the same. two turn tables --

>> but is it fun vinyl? >> yeah. >> really? >> in fact, vinyl sales have increased. cd sales have gone down -- >> because of the quality of the sound. >> well, i think partially, and kids have been exposed to turntables now. i think part of it was they started releasing turntables with usb outs, so you could record your vinyl on their computer, and it gave kind of a new generation access to vinyl, which was fantastic. >> there's some incredible music in your new film. i actually do mean that. watching this film, it's great. >> nicely done. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking i need to get this soundtrack. >> it's an amazing soundtrack. >> it is, it is. >> it really is. this is another -- gayle asked you about the comedy with "wilfred." it's a cute comedy as well that you're in, in this new movie. >> it's really -- that film is really special. i mean, rashida and her writing partner, will, wrote that over a two or three-year period -- >> rashida jones. >> rashida jones, yeah. and they've been trying to get the movie made for a long time,

and i worked with her last year on "wilfred," and just as a friend, i was inquiring about this screenplay, and she sent it to me, and it's so beautiful. it's so funny, but it also, it feels so honest. >> it does. >> in terms of what it means to be in a relationship and to break up with someone. >> and still care about them. >> absolutely, still care. absolutely. it's a very unique kind of romantic comedy. i've never seen anything quite like it, so it's great to be a part of. >> if you were writing a book about going from a child actor to an adult actor, making that path successfully, what would you tell us? >> right. um, gosh, i don't know that there's any magic equation, you know? i think integrity has always been very important to me. and you know, as a young person, i wasn't thinking about the extent of the career. i wasn't making choices so much for -- >> i have to interrupt you at that point because we're out of time. >> oh, no! >> elijah wood -- ,,

>> good morning everyone. the fire peering three house in martina's early this morning. it started around 4:00 a.m. but firefighters had it under control by 430. pg&e is still trying to cap a gas leak. this is the second fire at the house it this year. , they are recovering after being wounded in a shooting near macarthur boulevard at 9:00 last night. a gunman fired several shots when they resisted and then ran away. the albany city council has approved plans for uc-berkeley plot of land, voting 4-1 to develop 6 a. of the land that

occupy protesters took over earlier this year. projects include a senior house and a whole foods store. triple digits in the forecast >> it will get hot around the bay area today but some cool spots towards the coast line. still some fog out there this morning but that will break up. already beginning to break up over san francisco, a lot earlier than yesterday. it is a spare the air day and it looks like the heat will soar well into the nineties and went, 97 in livermore, 88 in san jose. 60s out towards the coastline and even hotter tomorrow with a triple digits and then cooling down into the weekend. we will check out your traffic coming up next

>> let's take a look at the bay bridge toll plaza back up into the maze. a 20 minute wait to get onto the bridge. it live look at 880, one of the time saver traffic cameras near the colosseum, it is pretty slow right now. it is a spare the air de so use mass transit