8th and brannon. we sell three-day passes or tickets that are good for either both saturday and sunday or just for sunday, depending on when people want to come. >> tell us a little bit about the history. is it from books from all over the country, all over the world? >> there are 200, more than 200 exhibiters, from all over the world. many from u.s., but also england, france, canada. i don't know that we have any japanese dealers this year. italian dealers, but many, many from many european countries. >> i understand there is an asian theme too also this year. >> our special exhibit is, are loans from the east asian library, one of the country's largest collections of rare and important east asian material. and they are giving a -- they

are loaning things for an exhibit. >> uh-huh. are you -- have you participated many times over the years? >> i've participated in the fair many times, going back to when i first began working in the business, far too long ago. >> i see. well, one of the questions i had asked you earlier is why would persons be interested in rare books? what makes a rare book? >> well, a rare book is a book that there's a reason for someone to want in the first place, either because it's a great work of literature or it represents the first publication of some interesting or important discovery in science or exploration or because it's particularly beautiful for its illustrations or the binding or the printing. people collect all kind of things. and some people are particularly attracted to books that they read when they were children. >> are they best sellers

necessarily? >> they are not necessarily best sellers. often, best sellers will be produced, even if they were suspected to be best sellers, would have been produced in very large numbers at the beginning. so those may not be rare. the other factor is the supply factor. if a book is famous and popular, but even in the first edition, there are 100,000 copies, it's never going to be rare. >> i see, i see. so maybe a best seller this time, like, you know, something like "the purpose driven life" that sells 40 million copies, would that necessarily be a rare book? >> that's an area of -- it's not an area that's very much collected. i mean, the first edition of that book, people do collect first editions of self-help, popular psychology books or first edition of dale carnegie kind of things because they are

older. but the books of today, they often are produced in too many copies that anyone will have trouble finding it. >> i see. well, i'm excited that you brought some rare books. in the next segment, we're going to get into them. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> please join us. rare books, good books, signed books.

welcome back. we've been talking to thomas goldwasser and he's brought some great books this morning. >> here is an example of a book that almost everyone knows, first edition of e.b. white's children's classic "charlotte's web." >> wow. >> it looks the same as the editions currently published for the most part. >> and you own that? >> yes. this is inventory of my store.

so i brought it along. people look how do you tell first edition? in this case, it's pretty easy, it says first edition and the code of the month and the year that it was published. >> i see. >> and it's a book that-- >> would you sell it? >> oh, yeah, it's part of my inventory. >> okay. what price would you think you would get for it? >> oh, i would have to look to remember. this is $1250. this is a book you'll probably find more than one copy at the fair. it's not that rare, but it's loved so much and people really want to have it. >> okay. >> another book that's sort of in that same category, people enjoyed reading and found is this first edition of joseph heller's "catch 22". this copy is interesting because it's also signed by the author, ascribed to him by a collector from whom i got it.

and this is about 10 years after charlotte's web, 1961, '62. and this sells for about $10,000. >> wow. >> that's amazing. i think i might get another copy besides the $10,000 copy. >> well, it's because it's, you know, it's a 50-year-old book and preserved in really nice condition and signed by the author and first edition. so, you know, it has all the aspects that make it a collectible book for someone who cares about mid-20th century literature. >> i can understand that. let's see another one. >> well, this is the first obtainable edition of "alice in wonderland." it was first printed in england, in london in 1865, but -- they made -- louis carol

didn't like the way it was printed. he said the illustrations were badly printed. the publisher didn't want to waste the pages they had already printed. so they sent new covers for their sheets who bound them up and sold them. so this -- actually the first copies, the 1865 one is almost an impossibly rare book. there may be only, only a handful of copies known. but this 1866 one uses the same sheets. so it is the first edition, what we call the second issue of the first edition. >> and there are illustrations? >> there are illustrations. that's the famous illustrations that have -- that were used for a hundred years plus or still

used. it's hard to see what carol found so objectionable about the printing, but he was very finicky. and this is the original binding, which is a point in its favor for collectors. >> that would probably sell more than 12,000? >> that's what this is, $12,500. >> okay. that's rare. now, this next one you showed me was fascinating, this being african american, black history month, this is an exciting version here. >> this is the collection of the first book of spirituals, was collected by the great african american poet james wheldon johnson and his brother did the orchestration for it. >> he was the in the african american community, every voice. >> i don't think that was included in here, but this copy

was particularly interesting because james wheldon johnson gave it to his father george gershwin. >> interesting. >> interesting side fact to that is roseman johnson would appear in the cast a couple of years later. the johnson brothers were very close to gershwin and of course he was extremely influenced by black music, by the spirituals, by jazz. >> i'm reading, as i cold you, a book on gershwins and some of their great songs. when i saw that they had dedicated it to gershwin-- >> in fact, they dedicated -- there was a second book of spirituals and in fact, they dedicated some of the spirituals, i think one or two, two, one of the spirituals was dedicated to gershwin. the dedications in this book of

the different works, sort of -- here's "steal away to jesus" dedicated to rowland hays. these represent a who's who of 1920-- >> what would that sell for? >> this one is $6000. >> i can imagine. that is an absolute classic. i'll have to get my ties together to see if i can-- >> yeah, that will be an important edition to your collection, i'm sure. >> now, at the fair, will you have these books, along with others? >> yeah, i'll have these books, along with others at my stand at the fair. >> i am really appreciative of you coming and bringing these books and i hope to go. >> thanks. i look forward to seeing you there. >> thank you, thomas, for being with us, and we look forward to this book fair being exciting and always successful as it has been. >> great. appreciate it. >> i'm glad you've been with us. our next two segments will be

also an author and a rare book collector.

. www.cabookfair.com is where you can get more information on this wonderful fair that's coming to town this month. it's exciting, because if you followed these first segments, this is a time to be in touch with these great books. i'm excited about it. so our next guest with us is carl bloomgren. welcome. >> nice it be here. >> tell us your background and history and your involvement. >> well, i grew up in a house full of books and i got interested in selling books when i was in my early twenties and, and i've been involved in

the business ever since. but i love books and i think they are fascinating and i like to work in that field. >> the love came at an early age? >> yeah, i was always a big reader and i enjoyed the history of books. i also -- i'm a specialist in photographic books and also illustrative books. so i was fascinated with that. and that's one of the areas that i focus on. >> great. and you brought some books. let's go right into it. >> well, one of the books that might be of interest right now is -- this is a book by julia peter kent and doris almond. it's a photographic book,

"roll, jordan, roll." i believe that is a spiritual, african american spiritual song. >> that's right. >> and this book is considered one of the important photographic books of the 20th century. >> i appreciate you bringing books with american history, with the black history this month. >> yeah. so julia peterkin was an author of pulitzer prize winning author. she wrote books that, about southern history and she married a man who had a plantation in the south and doris almond did the photographs on the plantations in south carolina and almost all the photos are of african americans who were -- many of whom were actual -- had been

slaves or were descendents of slaves. and the photos were in a style that might be called pictorialist, a little bit of soft focus images, but very beautifully done. this book itself is the second printing of it and the first trade printing is what this would be called, but it was preceded by a limited edition that is very, very scarce and this would be the first trade edition. >> like i asked thomas, how much would this book cost? >> this would be about $1000. >> a thousand, okay. >> because it has the original best jacket, hard to find them in the original best jacket and in good condition. the limited edition would be worth more like $40,000. >> oh, wow. unfortunately, i don't have that.

>> you don't have that one. thank you for that one. let's go on. you have some huge ones there. >> this one's of local interest i think. historical outlets of santa clara county from 1876 by thompson & west. and it has -- at that time, santa clara county was primarily agricultural and population was very small relative to now. so it has -- it's illustrated with these large plates of nurseries, farms. this is the fredericksburg beer brewery in san jose. >> 18-- >> 1876. this is santa clara college. this is a double-page spread on

this on this college, the santa clara college. >> don't see the new san francisco stadium yet. >> not quite there. [ laughter ] >> here's a business seen on a street in san jose, horse drawn carriages and flags flying. >> well, that's quite a history there. i think the mayor would love that. mayor of santa clara, yeah. >> yeah, well, santa clara county has changed tremendously since 1876. >> let's look at another book before our last segment, which we'll have another 5 minutes or so after this. let's look at one more book here before we move on. >> all right. well, i have a book on -- this is a book on british freshwater

fish from 1879. it was written by reverend howton and he was clergyman in england and the book is illustrated with 41 gorgeous chrome graphic plates that show -- >> interesting why he was interested in fish. >> well, he was a naturalist. i believe he was probably a fisherman also. >> uh-huh. >> the book was, it was written both for naturalists, but also for fishermen who would help identify what they were catching, or what they were looking for. this is golden carp, which is like a goldfish, but beautifully printed in crow mow

lithography, which is described as an extremely handsome fish. >> what would that book cost? >> this is about $1500. >> and the santa clara one? >> the santa clara atlas is also, it's about $2000 for that one. >> these are fascinating. we have another segment and i think you have another book. >> i could show that, yes. >> okay. thanks for being with us. >> all right, thank you. >> i'm ron swisher and we have been looking at rare books and we hope that it's inspired you to come to the book fair this month.

thomas jefferson once said that a room without books is a life without meaning. and we have looked at some great books and we have this fair this month that we want to encourage you and hopefully it will add some meaning to your life. tell us more about the antiquarian book fair. >> the book fair is hosted by the abaa, which is the antiquarian book sellers association of america. >> uh-huh. >> it's associated also with the ilab, which is the international league of antiquarian book sellers. so there will be international book sellers also attending and exhibiting. >> what about discovery day? >> there will be, on sunday between i believe 1:30 and 3:00, there will be discovery day at the fair, on which you can bring in books that you think might be of some value or

you want to find out, you know, more about them. >> that's exciting. >> and there will be -- some of the members will be there to evaluate them and tell you about them. and i believe that will be free on that sunday. >> that's great. >> for the discovery day. i believe you still have to pay admission to come in. >> but you can bring your books. >> yeah, and they will give you a free evaluation. >> how many people do you usually anticipate at these events? >> several thousand. >> that's a good number. >> will attend. there will be about 200 book sellers there. >> okay. >> and i don't know the exact numbers we usually get, but it brings in a big crowd. and the concourse is a pretty big exhibition hall. >> okay. we have one more book you want to show us. the olympics, of course, took place this past year, so exciting in '12. this is concerning the olympics here, huh some. >> yeah. so the olympics were in london this year, right.

and in 1936, the olympics were in berlin. >> that's right. >> and it was during the nazi rein. this book's author is controversial, but very important woman director, actress and photographer. she made a film about the olympics called "olympia" and this book is a german book which contains photographs that she also took at the olympics. and the title in german is shown here. >> is there another picture? >> basically, the title means something to the effect of the beauty of the olympics. and there are-- >> oh, i see. jesse owens. >> jesse owens is in this book.

>> fantastic. >> he was one of the big winners there who represented america and adolph hitler was there. >> criticized him, yet he won four gold and he had to walk out on him. >> this is considered one of the more beautiful-- >> classic. >> -- photographic books about the olympics. >> classic. carl, we're almost out of time, but we got them all in. i want to thank you for being here, and i hope to see you there, too. >> yes, i would love to see you there and encourage people to come and take a look at all the great books. >> thank you for being with us. and thank you for joining on this day with us for these rare books. i'm ron swisher.

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