good morning to our viewers in the west. it is tuesday june 18th 2013. welcome to "cbs this morning." president obama one-on-one. he tells me why nsa critics have it wrong. plus his new strategy for syria. historic news from the pentagon. the plan that could turn women into arm rangers and maybe s.e.a.l.s. >> a leading doctor takes on alternative medicine. are vitamins a bad thing. >> a look at this morning's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. >> at no point -- >> you're saying you have no problem? >> because i don't. >> president obama defends nsa

surveillance program. >> meanwhile someone claiming to be edward snowden defended his actions during an online chat. >> family of snowden leading him to not talking. >> i hope pray ask you will not release any secrets. >> the summit president obama and vladimir putin both agree violence in syria has to stop but they are far apart on how to do this. >> the assad regime. >> fbi searching a field in detroit looking for remains of jimmy hoffa. >> working off a tip from a reputed mob. >> buried under a slab. that's where our understanding of the slab slab, where it should be. >> poisoned on an international flight. >> the fire now

all working with the chinese? isn't that's the way it's going. >> welcome back. good morning. >> good morning. >> interview with president obama. >> look forward to it. >> world leaders wrapping up g-8 summit. >> in fact the president sat

down with russian president vladimir putin. they did not look happy after the meeting. more on the g-8 talks. major garrett traveling with the president in ireland. >> first president obama defending government's secret surveillance of your phone calls and e-mails a wide ranging discussion. the first interview since revealed, the president insists the national agency's work is necessary and not invasive. >> so point number one, if you're a u.s. person then nsa is not listening to your phone calls and not targeting your e-mails unless it's getting an individual court order. two programs revealed by mr. snowden, allegedly, since there's a criminal investigation taking place, and it caused ruckus. program number one called 2015

program. what that does is it gets data from the service providers, like the verizon in bulk and basically you have my telephone number connecting with your telephone number. there are no names. there is no content in that database. all it is is the number of pairs, when those calls took place, how long they took place. at no point is any content revealed. >> i hear you say i have no problem with what nsa has been doing. >> let me finish because i don't. what happens then is the fbi, if, in fact, it now wants to get content, if it wants to start tapping that phone, it's got to go to the fisa court with probable cause and ask for a warrant. >> has fisa courts turned down

any requests? >> because, first of all, charlie, the number of requests are surprisingly small, number one. number two, folks don't go with a query unless they have a pretty good suspicion. >> should this be transparent in some way. >> it is transparent. that's why we set up the fisa court. the whole point of my concern before i was president, because some people say, well obama was this raving liberal before now he's dick cheney. dick cheney sometimes says yeah, lock stock, barrel. my concern has always been not that we shouldn't do intelligence gathering to prevent terrorism but rather are we setting up a system of checks and balances. so on this program, you have independent federal judges overseeing the entire program and you've got

works. there's a second program program. what that -- a foreignentity, can only be narrowly related to counter-terrorism, weapons proliferation, cyber hacking or attacks, and a select number of i had fires, phone numbers, e-mails, et cetera. those you can send to providers the yahoo! google what have you in the same way will happen

>> this is the most in-depth given, explanation of the surveillance program. why did he give you 45 minutes? >> a conversation about the issues america is concerned about it. wanted to engage in a way there was a back and forth about them and have a chance to let people feel and see his thinking on these issues. >> i kept reading through it and thinking, here is the president explaining the surveillance program 702. he called it talks about china and cyber spying why he decided to send more help in syria. all of that ahead on "cbs this morning." >> nsa director testifying at a hearing on capitol hill.

someone claimed to be the speaker defended in an online chat. bob, good morning. >> good morning, norah and charlie and good morning to viewers out west. edward snowden's father is urging him to stop the leaks, but snowden himself is not backing down. instead he's justifying his decision to reveal top u.s. intelligence secrets. >> consider what you're doing. >> in a direct plea edward snowden's father asked his son to stop leaking classified information and return

he took this comment by vice president cheney on president chon sunday. pi t hink i think he's committed crimes by pvio lati ving aolatgreeing mentagresements given the >> in response snowden wrote cheney being called a traitor is the highest honor you can give an american. >> federal prosecutors are working to bring a criminal case now fe that can meet hong kong's l

extradition requirements. we're told no arrest seems imminent and could be weeks before snowden is returned to the u.s. to face charges. norah, norah, charlie. >> bob, thank you much. t now to the g-8 summit in northern ireland, president goal obama's main goal nailing down support for action in syria but not finding help from syria's st imp most important ally russia. major major garrett in sligo ireland. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the white house described the talks between president obama r and russian president vladimir putin as business like. the picture taken after talks broke up suggested other adjectives awkward, tense, cold, indifferent. we asked a white house official about all this and he shrugged what you see is what you get. what we see on syria is get. disagreement with disagreement.ee they met about two hours greement. devoting 25 minutes of those talks directly to syria and all they could muster were two vaguewo

statements. one about ending blood shed thatut the raged for two years in that bloo civil war and another supporting a diplomatic conference in geneva, but that gathering has no fixed agenda and no fixed by date and no means by which to resolve a war. russian support in the united states would like to see him leave. after the talks, the president announced with g-8 leaders here the united states will spend an additional $300 million to humanitarian aid to the region bringing u.s. total so far to ion just under $800 million.$800 russia did not announce sending russ any humanitarian aid but made it any clear it would continue to send heaven weaponry to the assad regime.y charlie and norah. . >> thank you. it is a watershed moment for the pentagon expecting to announce ns its plan to integrate women intowomen into combat forces that includes forc elite forces. david at the pentagon. good morning. >> good morning, norah. good mo the pentagon is racing to catch up with the reality of iraq and

afghanistan where women served in combat right alongside men. last january secretary of defense ordered the armed serve ri services to end the outdated policy which excluded women from serving in units that engaged in ground to ground combat with the with enemy. now they have come back with their plans on how they would do how t that. the army would decide by the by middle of >> could come back and ask to keep those limits off limits to women. the issue is not can a woman make it through the training but can enough women complete the training to make it practical to undertake all the other changes that you have to take when you open a unit to women. s.e.a.l.s rangers and s.e.a.l.s could well remain all male. but thousands of other combat a

jobs and infantry tanks and artillery will be opened up to ery wi women over the next few years. charlie, norah. >> david martin thank you. and the trial of boston mob boss james "whitey" bulger continues this morning. back on the witness stand a is mor former hit man linking bulger to a string of killing. elaine quijano at the courthouse. good morning. >> reporter: good morning charlie and norah and our viewers in the west. as court gets under way, james "whitey" bulger former associate john mar martorano is expected to space a grilling. s he's a hit man who said bulger helped him commit murured. >> reporte he testified james "whitey" bulger was his partner in crime and his bess friend. that trust evaporated he said when he learned bulger was a government informer. it sort of broke my heart. i was just beside myself. martorano was perhaps the most feared member of bulger's winter

hill game that ruled the hill underworld for nearly 30 years. in 2008 martorano spoke with "60 minutes." te >> did you keep count of how many people you killed? >> never, never, no.ne until in the end i never e realized it was that many. er >> how many? >> a lot.lo too many. >> do you have a number? >> i confessed to 20 in court. in >> martorano was the first witness in the trial to directly tie bulger to murder. in unemotional testimony he described how he killed and told the the court bulger would sometimesr assist or ride in a second car ready to act if anyone tried to interfere. bulger fled boston when he was ti tipped off by a corrupt fbi agent that investigators were closing closing in. he he spent 16 years on the lamb.rs he was arrested in california.inside his police found weapons and cash g stashed inside his apartment

wall. howie carr is author of "hitman." which details his life. v >> what does he think now? >> he hates him. he would have killed him. he he considers him a rat. whitey bulger is his son's godfather and whitey bulger is betrayed him. >> martorano served just 12 years in prison as part of a deal with federal prosecutors. bulger's defense team is expected to cite that deal as reason to doubt martorano's goi credibility. charlie, norah. >> thanks elaine. with us cbs news analyst and commentator ricki klee mann. >> how strong is the testimony? >> a killer like martorano ing th walking the streets doing 12 years for 20 murders we know of. he is ice cold. he does murder by murder by murder as if he's buying groceries.

i'll take the eggs milk. i stabbed him, i shot him, i killed him. i he is highly credible and terribly frightening as if you're watching the"the sopranos"." he has got to show the government will stop at nothing o to get whitey bulger. com this guy on the street after committing 20 murders. this guy who has made money from people the government and other people a with a book and a movie. it really makes you bone chill. >> won't his credibility be at course. issue? >> yes, of course. he says of course he committedight eight murders before whitey even b joined the gang.d he can put whitey in the midst midst of 11 of 19 he's charged with. ultimately you have three bad, bad, bad bad people stone cold killers who are testifying against t wh whitey. this is the first of the three. what we know though is whitey may

n may not care about these counts. he may say it's okay to get convicted.s okay t ultimately always remember it's t's the the conviction about the two women that whitey says no i didn't do those. maybe these he can say he did. >> what would the prosecution do to prove that?ell, >> ultimately you're going to get two the other two cohorts. the scariest men i could ever think of. i'll tell you one thing, i would sell my house for john martorano to but i might sell my hamptons l house to cross-examination him. >> you like that better. >> has a sentimental value. >> good to see you. >> thank you. jimmy hoffa was last seen dining with mob sisterssters in 1975. they continue the latest looking for the former boss. agents digging in a field digging yesterday. a manuscript from a reputed

mobster claims he was bound and reputed gabd, hit with a shovel and buried alive under a cement slab. they found the slab during monday's addition. so far no evidence of hoffa's ffa's remains but digging continues today. >> seems like there's always a new thing with hoffa. around the globe, jerusalem looks at iran's election and iran's what it means for israel. a moderate won a convincing victory saturday but not clear what it means for iran's nuclear program. israel faces a hard time getting world report for military strike. >> "wall street journal" reports stri on nationwide demonstrations in rts on brazil. demonstrators are angry about everything from cost of living to corruption. it began last week as a protest ngry against bus fare increases but to quickly spread. . >> arizona republic looks at supreme court ruling on voting rulin law in a 7-2 ruling the justices2 wrote that would be voters don't have to prove citizenship on federal registration forms but

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being mauled by a dog at a home in union city. police plan to good morning, it's 7:26. i'm michelle griego. a 6-year-old boy has died after being mauled by a dog at a home in union city. police plan to release more information about the attack later this morning. vallejo police think a deadly drive-by shooting was in retaliation for another fatal shooting that happened over the weekend. a woman was killed last night when shots were fired into a home on frisbee street. house fires in the bay area overnight including one that destroyed a home on sunnyvale road in pleasant hill. no one was there when the fire started. crews are still working on fires in sunnyvale and vacaville, as well. stay with us, traffic and weather in just a moment.

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tackle a fellow passenger. michelle miller shows us several recorded the man's rants. >> they want to silence me. >> reporter: law enforcement was waiting on the tarmac at newark airport after disturbing reports from the air about an out of control passenger on board flight 116. >> your life is in jeopardy too. if you work for the nsa, if you work for the cia, if you work for the national reconnaissance your life is in jeopardy.

>> reporter: passengers say it all started about nine hours into the 15-hour flight from hong kong. >> people started looking at him. once he started reaching for his pocket, people got scared. a few of us jumped on him. put him on the ground. >> reporter: passengers and flight attendants were able to handcuff him. they say the man claimed he worked for an american embassy and made references to edward snowden. who leaked classified documents about u.s. surveillance programs. >> he was screaming something to the effect that he had information about edward snowden. and that he was trying to deliver the information to the u.s., but he was being hauled away by the cia. and being taken away by some safe house to never be seen again. >> they're trying to inject me trying to kill me. china is a better country. china is a better country. i know this now because i saw something wrong. >> reporter: we're told the disturbance went on for hours before the plane landed and the

officials took the man away. they have not released his name for "cbs this morning," michelle miller, new york. >> strange story. >> it really is. >> very strange. john miller, what do you think? >> i think that was the boss of the guy who was loading the boxes? that's why i ask. >> we do want to talk about another story with you, though. >> there are two new names on the phi's 10 most wanted list. together they bring the total number of people in that notorious group to 500. the list is an essential law enforcement tool. john miller is a former cia director. >> he is? >> you never mentioned that before. >> good morning, former assistant director. >> did morning. some day i'll tell you how i lost that job. >> loading boxes. >> you sa it. this is about the 10 most wanted

list, which is one of the most important tools in the fbi. it was literally invented -- there's a lot of stories, but the real story is it was literally invented by j. edgar hoover over a card game when one of them said who's the toughest guys out there. they made a list. it was such a big hit in the newspapers, they kept it going because they caught two or three of these guys. now, this is a milestone because they've added the 499th and 500th. and when you have a program that dates that far back to taught anthropology. and he traveled around the world to the philippines, to thailand supposedly for research.

fbi believes that all of these trips were disguised to pick up children and continue his activities of being an alleged sexual predator. and he wanted for a string of those crimes. so he is one of those. the other one is jose manuel garcia guevara who is wanted for a rape and murder that was submitted in front of a child. so these are both very serious crimes. but how do you get on the 10 most wanted list? what's the criteria who do they pick and why? my office used to work on it and we would pore over the candidates and you have three basic criteria. the crime serious. were they dangerous? that's one. number two, would publicity aid in their capture? meaning does everybody in the public already know about this person? when people asked why was osama bin laden on the list? that's because he went on the list in 1998 when a lot of people didn't know who he was or

what he looked like. and then the last case would publicity make it different? what you see on the success rate of the program the answer is definitely yes. i predict they'll get both of these guys. >> whitey bulger was or was not on the list? >> whitey bulger was on the list. here's the funny thing. whitey bulger knows the power of that list once osama bin laden was killed and that hit the news whitey bulger woke up the next day and said i'm in trouble because i move up a notch and very shortly thereafter he was in custody. >> let me talk to you about the inspiration for robert de niro's character in "goodfellas." they were digging in queens yesterday, why? >> there's the old story about the gangster who calls his son and says i'm very sad because i'm too old and too much pain to plant the garden and plant the tomatoes this year. his son hangs up and said pop,

i'll take care of it. he calls the fbi and says i've got a tip, there's someone buried there. they dig it up. he calls his father and says you can plant the tomatoes now. this is kind of an annual -- stay with me charlie -- this is kind of an annual rite of spring. jimmy hoffa. they're digging up jimmy's driveway since 1978 and associated bodies along the way. there's a reason it happens in spring. they always get this information in february. and then they take a long time to get that warrant because nobody want to be throughout. >> this reminds me of a story about bob hope once that he had $500 million. and he came home and his wife he said well who's been digging in my backyard. his wife said it was me looking for the 500,000. 500 million. >> i think they're looking for a body, that we know.

but i don't think we'd be surprised if they found money. out of a robbery, 5 million bucks, they recovered all of $20,000. what's out there somewhere whatever wasn't spent. >> john miller thank you. and the worst wildfire in colorado history could lead to a criminal investigation. officials have ruled out natural origin near colorado springs. barry petersen reports that finding the cause may be even harder than putting it out. >> reporter: for more than 500 homeowners, destruction almost beyond belief making the black forest fire the worst in colorado history. and even more troubling, investigators expect the fire was caused by humans. it started here on the west side and roared to the east and then north, growing to more than 22 square miles. now, with the help of atf arson investors, the hunt is on to track the fire back to its first minutes. how do you get it down to a cigarette that somebody threw away? >> you know you kind of work --

look at the burn patterns and work your way back to the point of origin. once you get to the point of origin, you look for clues. cigarette butts, footprints. tire tracks. >> reporter: but it doesn't always work a year after this fire 12 miles away burned nearly 350 homes, investigators still don't know if someone set it deliberately. >> there are fires that we look at. we just can't find the cause. >> reporter: veteran arson investor doug allen has more than three decades of experience helping in the conviction of a serial arsonist who was given the death penal foyer starting a california blaze in 2006 that killed five firefighters. he says it was solved using painstaking detective work with evidence from the forest and the suspect's home. >> all of these bits and pieces come together as a mosaic. it's like putting together a crossword puzzle. once all the pieces fit, you've solved the trial and the

whodunnit. >> reporter: allen says if the fires were started it's vital to find the person soon. >> this won't be the person's last fire. they'll continue to set fires. >> reporter: "cbs this morning," barry petersen outside colorado springs. it is an epic transportation project. but even the people of new york city had no idea what was going on beneath them until now. we'll take you underground. incredible pictures ahead on "cbs this morning." ♪ ♪ gather around the corner half a mile from here ♪

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ride the new york city subway system. there is one line that no one has been on. it was planned over 100 years ago. don dahler shows us. >> reporter: the pictures at times look like something straight out of a science fiction movie set. an alien planet far, far away. but they're actually photos of one of the most challenging public works projects in the country. taken by photographer patrick kashan. >> i've got one of the coolest jobs in new york. you do feel like you're in another part of the world. >> reporter: the plan will extend down eastern manhattan. 16 new stations connected by two 24-foot wide tunnels. at their deepest, the tunnels will be 134 feet below surface. drilled through solid bedrock. >> you have one photograph where there's this little machine that looks like a tonka toy in this

enormous or brightly lit cavern. >> it's the size in the 72nd street cavern it's just huge. >> do you ever get a sense it's dangerous? >> right away you worry about your exposure your composition and not getting run over by some tractor coming up behind you. >> if you asked me what is the biggest challenge, actually drilling in the densest possible urban area that you can find in the united states. >> reporter: michael horodniceanu oversees the $14 billion projectroject which was first conceived almost a century ago. just a little behind schedule its first phase will be completed in 2016. how long after schedule will that be? >> i think from 1929 that will put us about 84 years behind. >> reporter: so those people who wonder if they're going to be alive to see this completed, you say to them? >> sorry guys but we've

fulfilled your dreams. >> reporter: is there one image in particular that you feel captures what this is about? >> there's one shot i'm walking through the tunnel and coming into the 72nd street cavern when i was just walking in i had to stop and it kind of took my breath away. it's starting to take shape. you kind of get the sense of what the station is going to look like now. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," don dahler new york. >> that's an amazing story. >> an engineering marvel. 134 feet below. >> yeah. and drilling through bedrock. >> incredible. 2015, did he say? all right. some partly cloudy skies around the bay area. over looking san jose, a few clouds there but clear conditions out over other parts of the bay. looks like today will be the coolest day of the week. and an area of low pressure just moved to the north of us kicking up the breeze and cooling down the temperatures. numbers now in the 50s outside.

even some drizzle out toward the coastline but by the afternoon, some sunshine bringing those temperatures up into the 70s in the valleys. 60s, low 70s inside the bay, breezy at the coast. a little warmer toward the first day of summer on thursday. president obama says he had to figure out who syria's rebels are before sending them aid. the president looks at almosts in syria as we bring you more of the wide-ranging interview. that is ahead on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by smith & nephew verilast.

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good morning, everyone. it's 7:56. i'm michelle griego. a body has been found at the scene of a house fire in sunnyvale this morning. it began shortly after 6 a.m. at central avenue just south of evelyn. this is a live look at the scene. you can see crews are still working on that house. the cause of the fire is still under investigation. police are looking for witnesses to a hit-and-run crash that killed a bicyclist near downtown san jose. it happened yesterday afternoon on east taylor street near the bridge that crosses the guadalupe parkway. eastbound lanes of taylor were shut down during the afternoon commute as police investigated the scene. the victim's identity hasn't been released. stay with us.

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good morning. liza battalones here. lanes are still blocked in san francisco where the chp is investigating this morning's fatal motorcycle accident. two lanes of traffic still shut down south 101 backed up across the skyway to the bay bridge where it's slow from treasure island. southbound 280 the alternate also jam-packed. as we check on 880 in oakland, that is trouble-free in terms of accidents and still no delays at hegenberger. here's lawrence. >> we have some cool air sweeping into the bay area bringing with it a few clouds some drizzle out toward parts of the coastline. and it looks like some cooler air across the bay area for today. numbers in the 50s and 60s now. by the afternoon, only mid-70s inland and breezy. looks like it will be warmer for the start of summer.

good morning charlie. good morning, gayle. good morning everybody. welcome back. the gs summit takes on the crisis. president obama pushes the allies to press against russia. the president tells charlie china is stealing from u.s. companies. the doctor that says don't take your vitamins. they may make you sick. first, a look at today's eye opener. >> if they are not listening to your phone calls or targeting your e-mails unless they get an individualized court order. >> keith alexander is testifying at a program on capitol hill.

the white house described the atmosphere as businesslike. he said, what you see is what you get. >> the pentagon is expected to announce its plan to start integrating women into comeback forces. james "whitey" bulger's former associate is expected to face a grilling. >> she is highly credible and terribly frightening. >> this is a viral sensation, appears to show an airport baggage handler in china carelessly tossing boxes. >> she is clearly not stable. boarding a united airlines plane, passengers from forced to tackle a passenger who began screaming about government conspiracy. i think that was the boss of the guy who was loading the boxes. today's eye opener at 8:00 is presented by hilton.

i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. president obama is working to gather support on syria as the g.h. summit wraps up today. the president is at odds with russia, which backs the syrian government. >> the two leaders had a tense meeting on monday. major garrett is with the president in ireland. >> reporter: good morning, charlie, norah and gayle. syria finds most of the western world supporting the regime of bashir al assad. the g-8 summit leaders are trying to come up with a consensus, a call to end violence and find a diplomatic solution. the united states and european union agreed to negotiate a free

trade pack. talks will begin next month in washington. white house officials feared that would not occur. president obama will leave the summit for berlin and deliver a speech at the brandenburg gate tomorrow day's shy of john f. kennedy's speech with west berliners living in the shadow of the berlin wall. president obama talked about serious civil war? our pbs interview. he rejected criticism that he should have decided earlier to send arms to syria's rebels. >> these folks are carpenters and black smiths and dentists. these aren't professional fighters. the notion there was some professional military inside of syria for us to immediately support a year ago or two years ago -- >> there were some former syrian jerrells that were part of the free syrian army. >> there were those that were a

part but i don't think anybody would suggest that somehow there was a ready-made military opposition inside syria that could somehow have quickly and cleanly defeated the syrian army or assad or overthrown it. and, one of the challenges we have is that some of the most effective fighters within the opposition had been those who frankly are not friendly toward the united states of america and arming them willie-nillie is not a good recipe for meeting american interests over the long term. the last point i would make on this is a lot of critics have suggested that if we go in hot and heavy, no fly zone setting up humanitarian corridors and so forth. >> heavy artillery. >> that offers a simpler solution. 90% of the deaths that have

taken place haven't been because of air strikes by the syrian air force. syrian air force isn't particularly good. they can't aim very well. it has been happening on the ground. >> so you think a no-fly zone is not necessary? >> what i'm saying is that if you haven't been in the situation room pouring through intelligence and meeting directly with our military folks and asking what are all our options and examining what are all the consequences and understanding that for example, if you set up a no-fly zone that you may not be actually solving the problem on the ground or if you set up a humanitarian corridor, are you, in fact committed not only to stopping aircrafts from going over the corridor but also missiles. have we mapped all of the chemical weapons facilities to make sure we don't drop a bomb on a chemical weapons facility that ends up dispersing chemical

weapons and killing civilians, which is what we are trying to in invent. unless you have been involved in those conversations, it is kind of hard for you to understand the complexity of the situation and how we have to not rush into one more war in the middle east. >> that's why people think you are hesitant. you do not want to get involved in another conflict. >> charlie, that shouldn't just be my concern. that should be everybody's concern. we went through that. we know what it is like to rush into a war in the middle east without having thought it through. it is very easy to slip-slide your way into deeper and deeper commitments. if it is not working immediately, then what ends up happening is six months from now, people say, well, you gave the heavy artillery, now, what we really need is "x" and now what we really need is "y." because until assad is defeated in this view it is never going

to be enough. now, on the other side there are folks who say we are so scarred from iraq we should have learned our lesson. we should not have anything to do with it. i reject that view as well. the fact of the matter is we have serious interests there. not only humanitarian interests, we can't have a situation of ongoing chaos in a major country that borders a country like jordan which, in turn borders israel. we have a legitimate need to be engaged and to be involved. >> he certainly laid out his position very well. when you said charlie, when he said to you, unless you have been in the conversations, it is kind of hard to get involved with knowing the information that he has. you certainly challenged him. you certainly challenged him with what he had to say. what were you going to say, norah. sorry. ninety percent of the deaths have taken place have not taken

place because of the air strikes. he has calculated this. the way he was thinking out laud in your interview. if we drop bombs we may hit the chemical weapons facilities and have civilian casualties. it is extraordinary to hear his thinking out loud. >> you reminded me of that this morning. remember when bill clinton was called even by the president, the great explainer. i think he feels some sense that he has not done a good job at explaining his own mint. this with some toefrt try to get at that, as you suggest. >> there is another part in the interview where you ask him about why did it take you so long? a year ago, you could have decided to help arm the rebels? >> yes. >> and then a year from now after we have armed them people would say, why aren't you doing more? he said you end up slip-sliding into further engagement in the middle east. i think that's the first time we have ever heard the president in long form really explain his thinking on syria.

>> there is also some sense in that he understands if you get drawn back into that it also interrupts whatever your domestic agenda is and the belief that you have to fix america too, both economically and otherwise in terms of an investment future. >> it was good to hear a long-form conversation where he lays out what he is thinking. >> i agree. the marriage rate in america is down to a historic low. more than 175,000 weddings have been put off since the recession began. now that the economy is improving, there could be more marriages in the next two years. a virginia company says that is because couples feel more secure about their financial future the world's most definitive dictionary oxford english dictionary says tweet is a word. they define it as to make a posting on the social networking service twitter. also, to use twitter regularly or habit actually. one of 1200 new words.

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♪ ♪ do you believe in magic ♪ the cdc estimates we spend $34 billion a year on vitamins supplements and alternative therapies. a new book is called do you believe in magic? it debunks treatments that they say does not work. it is written by dr. paul offit of the children's hospital of philadelphia. >> good morning, gayle. >> you say there is no such things aalternative medicine. it either works or doesn't. >> if alternative medicine works, it is called medicine. if it doesn't, it is not an alternative. >> in your book you are taking on vitamins megavitamins specifically. >> i don't think multivitamins

hurt you but most don't need them. when you take five-fold, ten-fold, greater than the recommended daily allowance, you increase your risk of heart disease, cancer and shorten your life. i think people have this notion vitamins can never hurt you. there is one commercial where a woman is taking a small preparation of vitamin c saying you would have to drink two gallons of orange juice. maybe you are not supposed to drink that much orange juice. >> so is your argument it is okay to take vitamins, not too many. >> alternative medicine. gayle pointed out, there are two kinds of medicine. there are a lot of people that use acupuncture and say, it helps me. you say there is no proof in helping you? >> it does help some people but it doesn't have anything to do with putting needles underneath the skin. i think some people learn to release their own endorphins pain-relieving that our own body

makes. there is nothing accurate about acupuncture. you don't have to put the needles under your skin. >> are there supplements worth taking? >> folic acid should be taken of women of child bearing age to avoid disorders like spina bifida. vitamin d should be taken by mothers who are breast feeding and don't get outside and then cals calcium and vitamin d to prevent thinning of the bones and there is the data on both sides. >> i talked to david kelly, a friend of steve jobs for 60 minutes. david had cancer as well. steve talked to him and said go get good medicine right away was what the lesson was. you believe what about steve jobs? >> steve jobs had pancreatic cancer. when people think of pancreatic cancer they think it is a death centers tense. he actually had a neural

endocrine surgery if done early. he waited. he got acupuncture. it cost him his life. >> isn't it dangerous to say, if you don't treat, what might or might not have been the consequence of his disease. did you treat steve jobs? >> what? >> isn't it dangerous to say what he might do if you didn't treat him with respect to his survive ability? >> what you do know about steve jobs? you know he had a neuroendocrine tumor. they have a 95% chance of survival with early surgery. he know he significantly delayed his surgery. i think that adds up to the fact that he put himself at unnecessary risk by choosing an alternative course. >> so for steve jobs or anybody else, the most important thing to do if you have cancer is go immediately to -- >> to someone who has expertise

in treating the disease and not try to treat yourself. >> the name of the book is "do you believe in magic, the sense and nonsense of alternative medicine." it was very fascinating to me. i learned a lot, specially the menopause section the astronaut who became a true space pioneer. do you know who it was? that's next on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: "cbs healthwatch" sponsored by advil relief in action. honoring volunteers who don't let pain get in the way of helping others. sponsored by advil. s my workout. you're shoveling ice all day long. it's rough on the back. it's rough on the shoulders. i get muscle aches all over. advil is great. pain and soreness is just out of the picture. [ male announcer ] make the switch. take action. take advil. and if pain keeps you up sleep better

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in a house fire this morning in sunnyvale. it started around 6 a.m. on central avenue. a battalion chief says ghters can't ge it's 8:25. time for some news headlines. one person died in a house fire this morning in sunnyvale. it started around 6 a.m. on central avenue. a battalion chief says firefighters can't get into the building yet to identify the body. the structure is just too dangerous because of the extent of the damage. a fire destroyed a house this morning in pleasant hill. it was first reported about 4:45 a.m. firefighters found the house on sunnyvale road 80% involved in flames. it took about 25 minutes to get it under control. so far it appears that no one was inside. firefighters in vacaville say two people could have died in an early-morning fire but their neighbors saved them. the two were sleeping in a

house that caught fire on juniper street. neighbors woke them up around 3 a.m. and got them out right before the roof collapsed. stay with us. traffic and weather coming right up. 5é

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avenue. all lanes are now open. but south 101 bumper to bumper across the skyway towards the upper deck of the bay bridge with those backups continuing all the way across the span into oakland. 280 southbound also very heavy leaving the city. now, at the bay bridge commute leaving oakland that's also very slow from beyond the 880 overcrossing with the metering lights on. that's traffic. here's a look at the forecast with lawrence. >> all right. liza, we have some skies trying to clear out now still a couple of patches of fog outside but by the afternoon, the winds will be kicking up a bit. looking back toward the city of san francisco, you see some of those clouds in the distance there. i think we are going to see these temperatures now running in the 50s and the 60s. but by the afternoon, it will be cooler today, folks. temperatures going to top out probably in the mid-70s inland and that's it. 60s and low 70s around the bay and 50s and low 60s toward the coast. next couple day, we'll slowly march those temperatures upwards. summer begins on thursday. warmer weather to start the weekend.

♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up in this half hour vanessa redgrave has been recognized for just about every major acting award but her latest role made her nervous, she said. that's hard to imagine. vanessa redgrave nervous. we'll ask her why that was. and the woman who gave up her life on wall street for the road less traveled. you'll see how she's quickly becoming one of the top names in cycling, that's ahead. right now, it's time to show the headlines from orlando the globe. "the new york times" said at&t is offered solar-powered charging stations. starting today new york city they can handle six devices at a time for all brands. and the service is free.

it may look good but the "washington post" says bad things can happen if you wear high-heeled shoes. including calluses corns, pinched nerves and joints and achilles tendons. this news is shocking to me. breaking news everybody, high-heels are bad four. >> yes but are you giving them up? no. i love a good corn and callus. "the daily news" dominos gives its pizza imperfect triangles. that way they look rustic. oscar mayer turkey slices are no longer oval. and egg waffles. "detroit free press" says divers in michigan are looking for an historic ship wreck the beams could be part of a ship that disappeared in 1679. it's called "the griffin" the

first ship to sail the upper great lakes. and "wall street journal" looks for better things for motion sickness. experts do not what causes it. the best advice not getting queasy, always be the driver. and don't watch tv or read when you're in the car. and the "south china morning post" said a man was arrested for trying to stage a repeat of tiananmen square protest. and president obama discussed economic and security issues. in an interview for pbs, i asked the president what he thinks about china. >> they have achieved such rapid growth. and they have grown so fast almost on steroids.

that there's a part of them that still thinks of themselves as this poor country that's got all these problems. the united states is you know the big cheese out there. trying to dictate things perhaps trying to contain our lives. so i think what you're seeing inside of chinese leadership is the desire to maybe continue not to be responsible. not to be a full-stakeholder. work the international system on something like trade, for intellectual property rights. get as much as they can. >> right. >> and be free riders and let the united states worry about the big hassles and the big problems. at the same time with the national part, saying we're big, too, and we should be seen as equals on the world stage. what we're saying is you can't pick and choose. you can't have all the rights of a major world power but none of the responsibilities. and if you accept both then i

will you will have a strong partner in the united states. so i'm optimistic about the future. but you know what i've found working with the chinese government is candor being clear about american values. pushing back when americans are trying to take advantage of us >> speaking of pushing back what happened when you push back on the question of hacking and the serious allegations that come from this country that believe that the chinese are making serious strides in hacking, not only private sector, but public sector? >> we had a very blunt conversation about cybersecurity. >> do they acknowledge it? >> you know when you're having a conversation like this i don't think you ever expect a chinese leader to say, you know what you're right. >> caught red-handed. >> we're stealing all your stuff, and every day, we try to figure out how we can get into apple. >> and cyber. >> right.

every country in the world, large and small, engages in intelligence-gathering. and that is an occasional source of tension. but it's generally practiced within bounds. there is a big difference between china wanting to figure out how can they find out what my talking points are when i'm meeting with the japanese which is standard fare. and we try to prevent them from penetrating that. and they try to get that information. it's a big difference between that and a hacker directly connected with the chinese government or the chinese military, breaking into apple's software systems to see if they can obtain the designs for the latest apple product. that's theft. and we can't tolerate that. >> tell me turn to a number of

things. before i do, though the notion that you have simply continued the policies of bush/cheney. >> right. >> how does that make you feel? i mean how do you assess it? because many people say, you know you're bush/cheney light. and then people say no no he's not that at all. he's tougher in terms of drones, in terms of many things guantanamo bay. >> well i haven't yet closed guantanamo. one of those things you learn as president, is, you know what have you done for me lately? if you didn't get it done then that's your problem. i accept it. that's my job. until i close quarterbackguantanamo bay -- they're right, i haven't closed guantanamo. when it comes to drones i gave an entire speech on this and what i have said is and this is absolutely true, is that we have put in place a whole series of

measures that are unprecedented. and we will continue to do so. you know we ended enhanced interrogation techniques. we ended some of the detention policies that had been placed that violated our values. there are a whole range of checks and balances that we put in place. but i think it's fair to say that, you know there are going to be folks on the left. and you know what amuses me now folks on the right who were finding with a republican president and now obama's coming in with black helicopters. >> i did the interview. so it's interesting for me to see the president's mind at work. >> i thought the point he made about the chinese government. or the chinese military going in directly to try to steal apple's designs, that that is theft. of course what the u.s. government has accused the chinese of doing, not just apple, but our own military

systems. and stealing our designs for military hardware. >> we talked about that by the interview, which i said to him, it is said that they're doing that because they want to bring their military up to parity. he agocknowledged that was true with the military to bring it up to parity. >> you said it's to assess the president. but how does it happen charlie. last friday we're sitting here saying, what are you doing this weekend? i might go home and mow the lawn. at no point did you say i'm going to the white house? when did that happen? how did it come together? >> after this program, i was talking to a colleague in my office there was a call from the white house saying where are you this weekend? i said where do you want me to be. >> yeah. >> and they said well the president would like to have a conversation about a range of issues. and you're the guy he'd like to have it with.

>> there was that conversation about a range of issues. >> it's always good in covering the white house, it's always interesting when you can talk with someone about important issue who can make decisions that affect those issues. >> no doubt. well when we come back vanessa redgrave. she's been on screen and center stage for more than five decades. guess what she's here with us [ man on radio ] there's an accident on the freeway that hasn't been cleared yet. ♪ uh! i just want to celebrate

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♪ vanessa redgrave is among the few actors to win, listen to this, a tony an oscar and an emmy too thank you very much. in the new movie "unfinished song" she plays a cancer patient who gets involved in a local choir to cope with other diagnosis.

♪ show me a smile and then don't be unhappy can't remember when i last saw you laughing ♪ ♪ if this world makes you crazy and you've taken all you can bear just cope ♪ ♪ because you know i'll be there ♪ >> "true colors." "unfinished song" opens in new york and nationwide july 5th. i watched your movie last night, vanessa redgrave. you know what it reminds me of "a glee for seniors." at one point in the movie, you guys are ♪ let's talk about sex baby ♪ it was just a funny scene. did you enjoy it? >> yeah. >> clearly you did. because? >> well, i love singing, yeah. i think most of people do. >> but most of us can't do it

though. >> anybody can sing, that's the truth. >> check me because i remember -- well you know what -- >> two out of the three, vanessa. >> you know it reminds me too, i have to say to your daughter i was telling you in the green room, i met your daughter years ago on the red carpet. and she was so lovely and so kind. and i've never forgotten that. >> how was she kind? >> because i was a local yokel at the time. she acted like she was very interested in everything i had to say. normally, you're sort of dismissive of local yokels, i mean. >> i had a chance to find out. >> you know what i mean about her being kind. you know exactly what i mean. >> i do yeah. she's very open. very friendly, very open to people. but essentially young people. because young people get the

rough and stiffer returns. >> they do. >> this movie is about music that brings three generations together. what attracted you to playing this role this movie? what fascinated you about it? >> i think the fact that it was this -- this lady was wanting to sing until she drops. and she does finally. >> because she had cancer? >> yeah. i think i love the fact -- i like the song "true colors." she thinks she's got the best husband in the world. she actually has. but no one else believes that. >> he's pretty cranky. >> but she knows his true colors. i think that's what actually attracted me the most. because people with true colors aren't always evident to everybody. perhaps nobody because they don't show that sometimes >> hour.. >> sure.

>> you come from a great theater people. as you well know. you said i want to act as well continue as possible all my life. you continue to do that. >> i guess that's -- yes. >> that's what i mean. that's my point. what is it that makes you just want to keep, as long as you can take a breath you know do what you do? >> well i suppose it's lots of things. i've gone far too long. i think it's because i've come to understand over the years that, first of all, that theater is not that i love the different meetings, but the theater's one place that apart from the terrible prices of the ticket ss. it's the one place where

everyone can come and where, where you've come from doesn't matter. your age doesn't matter. your religion doesn't matter. it doesn't matter if you haven't got a religion what your politics, doesn't matter. you've come to listen and share and experience. churches divide people with all respect, and people make their choices. but theater. doesn't. it brings people together to listen. and there's not many chances in this world to listen and consider and take some things from it. >> well, congratulations on the new movie "unfinished song." thank you, vanessa redgrave. a woman quit the rat race to follow her dreams. she could be riding from wall street now to the olympics. that's next. and tomorrow on "cbs this morning" --

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♪ some people dream about a great paying job in finance. for others their dream is walking away from a career like that. as our ben tracy shows us, riding away. >> it's a big experience to have to overcome. >> it is an experience. >> reporter: like a lot of people evelyn stevens had not been on a bike since she was a kid. when did you get on a bike and saying i really like this. >> i was living in new york at the time. went to visit my sister she was

a passionate cyclist, i tried and loved it. >> reporter: it was 2008 stevens worked on wall street. >> i just wanted to be freer. i used to sit in conference rooms and look out the window and say i wish i could just fly away. >> reporter: so she did. stevens quit her high-paying finance job to see if she could make it as a professional cyclist. and you wouldn't have any idea how good you are had you not taken that leap? >> no idea. i have to say it still surprises me. >> this is your office now. >> this is my office now. kind of incredible, right? >> stevens is now 30 and a pro cyclist. in 2012 she beat the reigning queen of cycling marianne vos of belgium. stevens became the first women to win one of europe's most

prestige races. her coach was blown away with how much stevens can generate over a long term of time. in layman's terms what does this show? >> this says she's got a big engine. she can produce a lot of power and the more power you produce the faster you can go. you want to show me what you got. >> reporter: in boulder, colorado, we got a chance to see that engine. she was leaving me in the dust. >> evelyn stevens is definitely unique. >> reporter: davis phinney won in 1984. his wife won the gold and their son. pushing her to be her very best. >> how good is she? >> i don't think there's a question that evelyn won't be the best rider in the world in very short order. >> reporter: the best?

>> the best, yes. >> reporter: getyet, like wall street, every high-flying cyclist has one crash. >> i always say you can't physically crash when you work in finance. but you can physically crash when you work in cycling. >> reporter: three months ago she was going 35 miles per hour in a race and crashed right on her face. she needed 40 stitches and two new teeth. >> it's a hard sport and it's humbling. >> after your crash, it was it tough to get back on the bike? >> the bike is kind of my therapy in a sense, so actually taking it away was really hard. it was the hardest part. when i started cycling it was what i love and know. >> reporter: her goal is the gold in the 2016 olympics. i'm going to try to keep up. go for it. she has plenty of staying power. for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, boulder, colorado. >> she said bye-bye

one person was killed in a house fire this morning in sunnyvale. it started around 6 good morning. it's 8:55. i'm michelle griego with your kpix 5 headlines. one person was killed in a house fire this morning in sunnyvale. it started around 6 a.m. on central avenue. firefighters had to contend with flames coming out of the doors and the windows. a battalion chief says there's a body inside but it's still too dangerous to go into the building to identify it. a wind-whipped wildfire threatening 150 homes near yosemite national park. the carstens fire burned 1600 acres in the midpines area. firefighters told about 500 people to evacuate yesterday as the flames moved quickly

through. a 6-year-old boy from union city was killed when a family dog bit him on the top of the head. the young victim is [ non- english language ] family members say he was playing with a dog a pit bull type when the biting incident happened around 11:30 yesterday. the boy died at stanford hospital around 4 p.m. and now here's lawrence with the forecast. >> all right. a few clouds trying to clear up around the bay area now. let's get you outside and yeah, we have already seen some sunshine as you look toward the pleasanton area. a couple of lingering clouds there but by the afternoon more about the winds and the cooler temperatures. numbers now running in the 50s and the 60s. by the afternoon, probably only topping out in the mid-70s in the warmest spots. a few 70s and breezy around the bay and 50s and 60s toward the coast. next couple of days we'll start to warm up slowly but first weekend of summer at least starting out warm. we are going to check your "timesaver traffic" next.

good morning. liza battalones here still very heavy traffic over at the bay bridge toll plaza. westbound traffic slow from the foot of the maze, heavy traffic stays with you all the way across the upper deck because of the fatal accident in the city south 101 beyond silver. southbound 280 also bumper to bumper in san francisco.

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