hello and welcome to mosaic. information is all around us, the good, the bad. we know how much evil there is in the world, some of it right under our noses. today among the leading stories of the boston marathon bombings and other sad circumstances. we are going to talk about trafficking, human trafficking, and how it goes on right here. we have an expert who feels unfortunate to know so much about it. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> i foe -- know you know a lot because you didn't bring any

notes. so where do two people begin talking about trafficking? >> i think we begin by saying it's really a global issue. it takes place in every country in the world, in the united states, in all of our cities and probably in our neighborhood. >> could be within blocks of us here today. >> it could be. it is estimated as many as 27 million people, men, women and children. it's estimated there are more women and children because of gender and equality in our world, but men, women and children. it has many faces around the world. >> who are they? >> it can be children that end up being forced to become child soldiers, women forced into prostitution, men on fishing boats, children in factories, men and women in factories,

family on charcoal farms, children in cocoa fields. >> what about in countries like ours where, you know, top level organized country how can it go on here? where does it go on here in the united states? >> human trafficking has kind of two elements. it can be sex trafficking or labor, forced labor. we see both of those in our country, probably we see a lot around here in the bay area we look at west oakland and international boulevard and young children being prostituted. so anyone under 18 in this country that ends up in prostitution is real lay trafficking victim. we also see labor. where we are seeing is we can see people in construction, people working in small businesses, domestic servants, street peddling and begging.

i often thought people were begging for themselves. we are learning people are forced to beg for the benefit of someone else. people washing dishes, work in hotels and motels. >> are these people -- i mean the people who are being trafficked, these individuals, are they generally citizens of this country, immigrants of this country? >> immigration status has nothing to do with human traffic. we can traffic our own citizens. >> it and happens? yes. we can have someone cool into the country illegally and be trafficked. so they might come in on a student visa. once they get here they owe a debt for coming here. their documents can be taken

away. they can be forced into sex trafficking or labor trafficking or both. >> what kind of transition is that? and what are the fears that they live with that keep them with that almost almost oliver twist but what keeps them in that? >> threats and intimidation. we know where your family lives. if you don't do what we tell you and we send you back home you can bring shame on your family. we can report you and you'll be deported. in some parts of the world law enforcement is part of a trafficking ring. if you come from law enforcement where that is part of enslavement then you're not going to trust lea law enforcement in another country. some times victims that come from another country here may say well i'm better off here no

matter how bad this is, no matter how badly i'm abused or treat. everything i get or need i have to get from this person. >> talking about that where do traffic people live? how do they live? where do they get food? how are they treated? >> they are often treated very poorly. they can be forced to work long hours if they are in a labor situation. a woman ended up being brought to this country by friends of her family. >> let's get back to that. we are coming back on mosaic. stay with us.

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welcome back. we are talking about human trafficking the sister foster. he is very involved. for how many years? >> since 2008. you sisters have an organized ministry towards the evil. >> we really look -- there are three areas we focus on, raising awareness. we do a lot to raise awareness with service groups because the more people that know about human trafficking and can begin the identify the more victims that can be rest dude. we work with local organizations that work with victims. we do not work directly with any victims. how do we create legislation that really supports and

provides help for those of human trafficking. >> okay. want to go back. do they are enough to get in all of those doors? >> lots of people are working on this from law enforcement that's being trained on a local and federal level, department of labor that can go in and train to look as they are looking at labor situations to say is there something more happening this here on a federal level. ordinary people, most people in this country are because ordinary people report suspicious behavior. so say something is wrong in this situation. the case of -- i recently heard of a man doing gardening work at a residence. there was a woman inside cleaning the windows. when he got near the house she

said i'm being held a prisoner, please help me. so people are in ordinary situations. i think prostitution is much more recognizable. labor is ordinary, something is washing windows. >> is there any -- like might we gogo to a place of business and someone be a traffic person? >> yes. recently someone went to to a local shop and they said my friend brought me over from her country and forced her to work, open the store in the morning, close it at night. she works seven days a week. she said i need help. i want to get out of this situation. >> was someone able to help her? >> yeah. by reporting. i think we see human trafficking run by organized crime families, gangs but also being recruit by people who know them. >> yeah. >> friends.

>> yeah. and what we know when we talk about international victims people are recruited from their ownth necessity. someone that owns a business. they were philippineo. they owed more because they had to pay for their room and board, everything they needed. they owed more than they made. they had to sign their paychecks over every friday. >> what happens to traffic persons when they are relieved of that status? are they able to stay here? what about people who are in this country legally even citizens as you say? >> an international victim has the option of returning home to their home countries. >> okay. >> some don't because that's where their traffickers are. they are afraid for their own life and the life of their

family. they could choose to stay here. our own citizens stay here. there are a number of service organizations that really provide services, mental health services, health services, job training, all of that. >> if we google trafficking are we going to find out enough? do you have a web site you want to throw out or a name to google. >> i would suggest the palaris. >> okay. >> and they are also the national resource center in this country. they have contacts across the nation. no matter where you are in the country it's a great place to say how do i get help. >> how long has trafficking been going on in this country? >> it goes back long before

slavery. people are held against their will and forced to work for the benefit of someone else, can be beaten, abused, resold, killed. >> is any progress being made? >> yes. >> okay. we have to take a break. we are coming back on mosaic, trafficking. ,,,,,,,,,,

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talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance. welcome back to mosaic. today we are talking about an evil that's all around us and right under our noses. it's human trafficking. we are here with holy sister

foster. she is deeply involved in trying to rid the world especially our region here of this awful thing. >> uh-huh. >> how is it for you? is it tiring? >> it's exhausting some times to hear the types of trafficking and what happens to people and the numbers. we have no idea of the real number. we hear numbers as high as 27 million. the international labor organization in their june 2012 report estimated 20.9 million. whether it's 20 million, 1 million, one person it's one too many. people are really held in slavery today. >> and you're talking through all levels and you said organized crime and friends. >> friends. >> i mean it's just something that has been found to be a way

of doing business. >> it is estimated that it's a 32 to 33 billion-dollar a year business. many drug dealers are moving in because it's much more lucrative. you make no more money. you own a person and that that person can bring in money every day. >> you talk about the threats people live under. do you know of circumstances where things have been carried out against families? >> people are pretty sure their trafficker got to person. >> oh, my. >> yeah. >> so it really does. these awful dreams, nightmares come true. >> what can we do? you talked about a hot line, what is that hot line?

>> easy to remember. >> easy to remember, 888-3737. it's fast, 24 / 7, 365 days. you can report anonymously. some times what holds people back from reporting what looks like suspicious or criminal behavior people don't want to get involved. you can call or report unanimously. it is in washington,d.c.. that's where the national hot line is staffed. when day receive a report they call back to the local law enforcement jurisdiction to investigate. >> i want to ask you too so that we don't become vigilantes, what should we do? how can with -- do we have to deserve at all what we might think we are seeing? >> i think if someone is saying to you help me i'm being held a

prisoner. i have to work here from opening to closing seven days a week i need help. if someone is saying i am being mistreated victims can end up in emergency rooms. i think people need to call and report suspicious behavior. let law enforcement sort it out. we never want someone to rescue someone or put themselves or that person at risk. you want to call law enforcement and report it and let law enforcement deal with it. even when you call the national hot line there may need to be weeks or months of investigation before law enforcement can move in. they are bound by the law. they can't break in so they have to really investigate. >> as unfortunate as it is the awful way people are treated the people who handle them i think, that is probably the beginning of how ruthless they

can be. so we really have to be careful to not -- you know, to not get ourselves involved. >> it's one thing if it's an individual person or family that might be really treating someone like a slave versus organized crime. because of the internet people can be bought and sold because of easy transportation. people can be moved around. trafficking victims are often moved and moved again if they think law enforcement is coming in. >> is this going on on the web around -- like on the internet right around us? >> right around us, yes. >> are there -- are there methods? are there kinds of lists where people go? >> several years ago we did a lot around craigslist. if you remember several years ago there was a lot of concern around craigslist, people being sold, under aged people. >> that's little scrutiny in

that. >> right. and craigslist then decided to work and try to do more screening of people that were being sold. we know that people lie. traffickers lie so you say someone is 18 but nay are -- they are really, you know they lie. there's something not quite right. >> sister, we have to take another break. remember the hot line, 888- 3737. help stop trafficking.

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information. 888-3737-888. she swears by both of them. >> yes. >> one of the worst ills of the world today is human trafficking. >> that's right. >> it's all around us. i can't help but go back to that, it's right here. and it's not even disguised. >> no. it isn't. it can look ordinary but it isn't ordinary. it is all around us. i think one of the millionths -- myths is that it happens in another country, in a poor country. it's happening in our own country and in the bay area. >> and it's happening through our legitimate channels? >> yes. both legitimate and criminal. >> right. yeah. >> it's remarkable. i'm lost for words. i'm trying to host the program. we have a few minutes here.

can you give us a miniworkshop? what do you tell people? >> i tell people human trafficking is a global issue, millions of people. there are more slaves today than at any other time in humorist rhode island it has many many faces. it's not just sex trafficking but labor. there are more women than men -- pardon me, more women and children than men being trafficked but men, women and children are being trafficked. it's happening in our own country. we have made it a felony to traffic someone. it has nothing to do with immigration status. the person can come into the country legally or come into the country illegally and be trafficked here. it has many faces in this country. it's happening all around us. >> what if someone wanted help from someone who knows a lot

about it? do you have a web site they could go to? >> holy family sisters.org. they can contact us. we give a lot of talking to faith communities, service organizations, service clubs. i would be happy to come in and speak for any length of time. the more people that know about it the more people are rescued. every time there is training or raising awareness there's more calls that go into the national hot line and ultimately more people can be rescued. >> how is it when you speak with people about this? are they widely surprised? what are the reactions? >> i think people are very surprised it's happening in our country and in our neighborhood. i think people think it's somewhere else in another country, another place. >> a plot in a movie or something? >> yes. and many people think it's only prostitution or sex

trafficking. they are surprised at ordinary labor. >> are people willing to help or afraid to help? >> i think people are more than willing. we ask people to put the national hot line number in their cell phone. they can report suspicious behavior. >> we'll show it again at the end, 888-3737-888. >> correct. >> okay. have you been like christ, come and follow me? have people followed with you to help you? >> i think many people since i have been involved that's lot more slab ration among law enforcement, service organizations, really working together to say how do we bring an end to human trafficking, so that's a very positive note. i think there are a number of service organizations that really support victims and

survivers. it can take them to stabilize their life to move on. so to receive necessary services my experience when i speak to groups people want to know what can i do. >> give us the best 30 seconds you can on human trafficking. >> i think we need to us on

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