>> jeff: tonight the special operations raids in africa. one that is an original member of al qaeda. we'll hear from david martin and one of the prosecutor was was on abu anas al-libi's trail. a new death threat today from house speaker john boehner. >> the votes are not in the house to pass a clean debt limit. >> jeff: what a default would mean for the u.s. economy. selling obamacare, elaine quijano examines the new world of marketing health insurance. >> minnesota land of 10,000 reasons to get health insurance. >> jeff: an answering the call. don dahler talks to the man who refused to let america's oldest medal of honor wearer die alone. >> this is the captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news."

>> jeff: good evening, everyone, i'm jeff glor with a western edition of the broadcast. the before almost anyone heard of al qaeda he was well into planning attacks on america. what became known as the terror manual was first found on his laptop. but in libya u.s. forces successfully picked him up on the streets of typically. in somalia a second team targeting an al shabaab leader was forced to withdraw under fire. we begin tonight with david martin who has more on both american raids. >> reporter: it took 15 years but the trail ended here. in front of the house with abu anas al labi lived in the libyan capitol of tripoli. commandos from the delta force surrounded his car, smashed in the windows and carried him away. eventually to stand trial for his role in the 1998 bombings of two american embassies in africa. abu anas was one of the original members of al qaeda. and one of the few still at large. counterterrorism experts are likely to interrogate him for days before he is handed

over to the justice department for trial in a civilian court. family members told reporters he had been living openly in libya for the past three years and no longer had any contact with terrorist groups. the secretary of state kerry said abu anas could not escape his past. >> we hope that this makes clear that the united states of america will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror and those members of al qaeda and other terrorist organizations literally can run but they can't hide. >> hundreds of miles away along the coast of somalia u.s. navy seals came ashore to snatch a senior leader of al shabaab. the terrorist group responsible for that massacre at the shopping mall in my roby kenya two weeks ago. his name was ikrima, officials say he also was linked totem wasee bombings. but the seals got caught in a fire fight and had to withdraw back to sea before

they could capture him. it is not clear if he was killed or wounded in the fire fight. defense secretary hagel said the objective of both these operations was to bring terrorists to justice. by which he meant put them in jail. david n both of these operations why boots on the ground and not drone strikes? >> reporter: officials say that both these men lived in populated areas and that using a drone which fires a missile just posed too great a risk of civilian casualties. so boots on the ground was the only optioned jses david martin at the pentagon, thank you. abu anus al-libi had been on the fbi most wanted terrorist list for 12 years. today we asked a former federal prosecutor why the capture was so significant. >> he was a member of al qaeda during al qaeda's early stages where their anti-u.s. agenda was being formed. >> jeff: close to bin laden. >> close to bin laden.

>> for five years former federal prosecutor david raskin oversaw al qaeda cases in new york. he told us in the early 90s al-libi was one of those responsible for scouting american targets in kenya for osama bin laden. >> part of that surveillance included taking photographs of the united states embassy. when al qaeda truck bomb explode ted embassy in 1998 it killed 213 people, including 12 americans. another truck bomb destroyed the u.s. embassy in tanzania and killed 11. al-libi was also al qaeda's computer expert. his laptop is where investigators found 180 page manual on terrorist trade craft. with lessoned from document forgery to weapons training to assassinations. >> it really made clear just howe serious a threat al qaeda was because it lays out step-by-step the things that an op rattive would have to do to pull off a terrorist attack like 9/11

or the embassy bombing attacks in '98. >> raskin says al-libi probably will be intergrated first overseas for overall intelligence information then read his rights and potentially questioned in new york about the specific charges against him. >> and a reminder tonight you can see lara logan's report on the battle that brought down a blackhawk helicopter in somalia 20 years ago with footage never seen before, later on "60 minutes." >> a bomb killed four american troops in kandahar province in southern afghanistan today. 102 americans have been killed in afghanistan so far this year. the overall u.s. death toll in 12 years of war stands at 2,146. >> more than 40 people were killed in a new round of clashes across egypt today between government forces and supporters of ousted president mohammed morsi. alphonso van marsh reports the violence broke out in what the government intended to be a national holiday. >> egyptian security forces

fired live bullets into the air and tear gas into crowds of anti-government protestors. dozens were killed, hundreds more were arrested in the latest crackdown against those protesting egypt's military-backed government. the muslim brotherhood had called on its supporters to rally for the return of conservative leader mohammed morsist, egypt first democratically electsed president to power, the military removed morsi from office in july. >> i demand a return to legitimacy said mona mahmoud. the military took my vote and threw it in the garbage. the protests come on the day egypt celebrated the 40th anniversary of the country's last war with israel, long a source of national pride. authorities warned anybody disrupting the celebrations would be regarded as agents of foreign powers. but that didn't deter muslim brotherhood supporters from gathering in their largest numbers since government forces crushed pro morsi protest camps in august killing hundreds of people.

alphonso van mar be, cbs news. >> with most of the rest of the federal government locked in a shutdown treasury secretary lack lew on cbs "face the nation" called on house speaker john bayne tore let a debt ceiling bill come to a vote. but on abc speaker boehner said responsibility lies with the white house. >> the nation's credit is at risk because of the administration's refusal to sit down and have a conversation. >> they're saying it is a risk because of your refusal to pass a clean debt limit. >> we are not going to pass a clean debt limit increase. i told the president there is no way we're going to pass-- the votes are not in the house to pass a clean debt limit. and the president is risking default by not having a conversation with us. >> jeff: the debt ceiling debate is up against an unforgiving timetable. on october 17th, 11 days from now, the government runs out of money to cover its regular bills. on the 23rd, $12 billion in social security benefits are due. on the 30th, $6 billion in interest payments must be

paid on the national debt. so we're going to bring in mark zandi, the chief economist of moody's analytics. mark you just heard what john boehner said today. how does wall street take that comment? >> i think it's a big problem. the president says he's to the going to negotiate on the debt limit. the speaker says he is not going to raise the debt limit until the president negotiates. it is a game of chicken, with each passing day it will get more anxious for stock investor, bond investors. and if lawmakers don't get it together by october 17th it's going to be a collision, an economic collision that is going to wreck our economy. so this is a problem. >> jeff: if that collision 457s, what happens if the debt ceiling doesn't get raised? >> well, what it means is that the treasury can't pay all its bills and can't make payments on the nation's debt. that means that at some point social security recipients won't get a check, medicare, medicaid providers aren't going pedestrian paid, military personnel may not get their money on time and investors will wonder if the treasury is going to make payments to them so it means falling stock prices,

rise interesting rate, ultimately businesses are going to start pulling back, cutting payrolls, unemployment will be rise, we will be in a recession and in a couple week is a deep recession. >> jeff: does this get factored into the market right now or do we wait a few more days or weeks? >> that's a good question. you know, i think it's going to build and intensify in the coming week. you know, stock investors have seen this movie before. each time the povie is played it ended the same way that lawmakers have come together at the 11th hour and signed a piece of legislation. but if we get towards the end of the we can and there is no progress i'm confident that stock prices are going to start falling pretty significantly. in fact, it may take that to light a fire under lawmakers to get them to come to terms. >> jeff: mark, you have seen this movie before during some of the worst of the financial crisis. in your opinion, does a deal happen? >> you know t better. and i can't imagine that lawmakers are going to take us down this incedicall incedically-- incredibly dark path. yes, i expect a deal. but hi expected them to get it together before now so

i'm growing nervous. >> jeff: mark zandi, thank you very much. >> there was a frightening moment at the grand prix of houston this afternoon. halfway through the final lap of the second race, a crash sent a car driven by four time endie car champion dar on-- dario franchitti into the fence, debris went into the crowd. 13 spectators were hurt, two hospitalized. franchitti was also hospitalized, suffering from a condition discussion and broken ankle and two fractured vertebrae. will not require surgery, we're told. >> later the men who came together to say good-bye to america's oldest medal of honor winner. the unusual video campaign aimed at recruiting millennials into o p.m. baacare. and the driver after that stunning motorcycle chase in new york city. when the "cbs evening news" continues.

>> jeff: the men who stepped between a gang of bikers and

the driver they were beating says he felt intense danger. sergio consuegra was on his way to church last sunday when he stepped in in new york city and he is speaking out for the first time tonight. michelle miller has his story. >> reporter: sergio consuegra lives just a few blocks from the new york city street corner where a mob of angry bike others confronted the driver of an suv and began beating him with a motorcycle helmet. >> i wasn't sure if he was dead or unconscious or whatever. but i knew he was in bad shape because there was a lot of blood. >> reporter: once he saw the bikers approaching the wife and infant, the 51-year-old says he had to take a chance. >> i got to do something. i got to help that family. i heard a lot of people screaming and telling the men no, not the woman, not the woman. there is a child. >> reporter: this father of ten says he got between four to six of the attackers and the driver. >> and i say that's it. there was no comment.

i said that's it guy, let it go. >> reporter: he was surprised when he learned afterwards that at least three off duty members of the new york city police department were among the bikers that day. >> i'm shocked. >> reporter: they're here to protect us. >> they should, yes. >> reporter: but a private citizen stepped in and saved this man. >> yes. they could have stopped it. >> reporter: they didn't. does it make you sad, angry. >> it made me angry, made me sad, yeah. you know, knowing that it could be avoided. >> reporter: he hopes his act of bravery will serve as a reminder to the country and a lesson to his children to do the right thing. >> that day, in which i have to engage in something that could have happened, let's say, something bad to me, to do the same thing as i did. >> reporter: michelle miller, cbs news, new york. >> jeff: still ahead, eight are killed after a monster truck.

>> jeff: how exactly does a nine-year-old boy board of playing without a ticket and fly from minneapolis to las vegas. that is what investigators are trying it to figure out tonight. that nine-year-old got on the flight on thursday, by himself after apparently scouting the airport the day before. he is now with child protective services in nevada. a tropical depression karen dissipated in the gulf of mention coach. the left over rain is now moving east. floodwaters carried away cars in louisville, kentucky. emergency crews overnight evacuated dozens. out west fierce winds fueled a wildfire at camp pendleton

forcing the evacuation of naval hospital patients and those on base housing. >> in northern mexico a monster truck went into a crowd of spectators after crushing cars and at least eight are dead. dozens hurt. witnesses say the driver hit his head on the roof of his truck during the stunt. the rest of the show in chi wawa mexico has been cancelled. >> up next, selling the affordable care act. what works, and what doesn't.

j&j the affordable care act still confuses most americans.

51%, according to the most recent cbs news poll. state governments and nonprofits groups are suesing video spots on tv and social media to explain it elaine qui-- quijano sat down with barbara lippert to gauge what works and what doesn't. >> minnesota, land of 10,000 reasons to get health insurance. >> without health insurance you're playing with her. >> okay, so that seems fun, can that fun approach get young people to sign for health insurance? >> i think getting down and rapping with the youth is pretty embarrassing to them and they really won't be that affected by it. i mean they might find it funny. but they're certainly not going to be motivated to spend the money on health insurance. another approach is to use fear. let's talk a look at that. >> nothing could stop me. next thing you know, i was in a wheelchair.

protect yourself,. >> our washington health care finder has low cost and freemans. >> okay. you can scare people into buying insurance? >> a small percentage might be scare mood it. but in general, no. i don't think it's a good way to go. i think fearmongering always has a bad outcome and they sort of just turn off to the whole thing and don't want to think about it. >> there was an aad that you really did like. let's take a look at that. >> allowing for easy comparison, in addition individuals can usekin ect to see if they are eligible. >> what did you like about that odd. >> it was open and calm. very diverse, you can see yourself in it all kinds of people are depicted and it just gives you information. >> and on the flip side there are also odds against obamacare, let's take a look

at that. >> is this necessary? >> we'll try to make this quick. >> okay what is your reaction. >> well, i can appreciate that it going to get millions in free media because it's so out there and outrageous but at the same time kids really don't want any part of this political fight. and they see this as a negative political aad. >> so what will work? >> once people start signing up and using it and have good experiences, and make youtube videos about it and start tweeting about it, then kids will be affected by their peers and they will sign up too. >> okay. barbara lippert, the advertising columnist with media post.com, thanks for stopping by. >> thank you. >> the new mill am-- film gravity with george clooney and sandra bullock cleaned up at the box office. astronauts trying to sur is voif an accident in space. gravity turns in the biggest october opening ever.

$55 million. >> coming up he won the medal of honor, 58 years ago. he said good-bye surrounded by brothers.

>> jeff: a 96-year-old man passed away inside a hospital room in new jersey. lick las oresko would describe himself as an ode guy. but dozen of friends and admirers who were with him say he was anything but. at the time of his death o resco was the oldest surviving recipient of the congressional medal of honor. here's done dal ir. >> i looked up at the sky, and i said lord, i know i'm going to die. let's just make it fans. >> nicholas oresko was a 128-year-old refinery worker from new jersey. during the battle of the bulge in world war ii he was ored to take a hill held by the germans. he described what happened in a documentary about medal honor recipients.

>> my job was to take the two machine guns that were on the side of the hill somewhere looking down, we couldn't see them. but they saw us. >> after two costly attempts his men refused to attack to the 5 foot 4 inch o resco did it by himself. >> you can't imagine in the battlefield with your men on the ground, and the ger machines in front of you. what do you do? you just keep plugging along, step-by-step. and which say well, if i have to die for my country, i'm ready. >> reporter: he managed to wipe out one machine gun nest but was wounded in the hip. he layed just below the second pill box. >> i counted to four, threw it in, and jumped in afterward, started shooting, the grenade didn't get-- my rifle did and then there was peace. >> for his brave roe in combat he was awarded the medal of honor.

>> what do we not know about him? >> humble. humble, humble. >> one of the most self-effacing people you would ever want to meet. the last thing that he would ever want to be called was hero. >> oresko outlived his family but in the end was surrounded by friends, soldiers, firemen, cops, just regular folks. >> you say he had no family. but de have a family. and it's just a family he had not yet met. >> they wanted him to know unlike that day he charged the hill, he was not alone. don dahler, cbs news, paramus, new jersey. >> that is the "cbs evening news" tonight, later on cbs, "60 minutes." i'm jeff glor, cbs news in new york. scott pelley will be here tomorrow. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

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