>> schieffer: today on "face the nation." breaking news as the u.s. and ally strike a deal with iran to halt their nuclear program for six months. >> for the first time in near low a decade we have halted the nuclear program. >> we'll hear from secretary of state john kerry about what's being called an historic agreement on nuclear arms which was reached overnight in geneva. a deal critics are all calling a historic mistake. we'll get analysis from david and david sanger. "new york times," kim strassle of the new york journal and political director john dickerson. we'll hear from house leaders, republican kevin mccarthy and democrats steny hoyer and conclude of the 50th anniversary of the kennedy assassination with jack see

kennedy secret service agent clint hill, author of the book "five days in november." it's all ahead because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. good morning, again, talks with iran have led to an agreement to freeze their nuclear program in return for easing some sanctions for a six-month period. our cbs news state department sat down with john kerry immediately after the deal was announced in geneva at 3:00 a.m. this morning. >> what does this do to prevent building a bomb? >> well, a whole bunch of things. number one, they don't have enough enriched material to be able to build a bomb. >> yet. >> they will -- yes, as of now. they will have to destroy the

higher enriched urine numb which is critical to being able to build a become. once they devoid that they have lower enriched, they have not allowed to build enrichment facilities. we'll have restrictions on the centrifuges which are critical. >> president obama said israel and saudi arabia have right to be skeptical, are you skeptical that iran will comply with the deal they just signed? >> i think everybody has a right to be skeptical. because there are indications that there are people in iran who have wanted to pursue a weapons program that there have been secret facilities building some of those efforts towards that program and so there's lots of reason. that's why we don't take anything at face value. >> you don't the people you just signed a deal with? >> we did arms control agreements with great enemy the soviet union. we've done arms control agreements in other parts of the world.

you don't trust, it's not based on trust. it's based on verification. it's based on your ability to know what is happening. so you don't have to trust the people you're dealing with. you have to have a mechanism put in place where by you know exactly what you're getting and you know exactly what they're doing. and we believe we're at the beginning of putting that in place with iran. >> stood up there and said this takes the threat of force, military force off the table. does it? >> no. this is not accurate. he also said that they have right to enrich which is also not accurate. and that's one of the reasons why we need to verify in this process. the fact is that president maintains as commander in chief and he has said specifically has not taken that threat off the table. >> you don't see actual dismantling of some of the facilities. >> not yet. that's accurate. but you can't get everything in the first step. you have to go down the process here. the fact is that what we've done

is lock components of their program in place and actually roll some of them backwards. the result of that is, by destroying their 20% uranium stock by limiting their 3.5% stock, by limiting the centrifuge, is that can be constructed in where they go by having intrusive inspection of number of facilities we've never been in before and we believe now opens the door to our going in to the larger, more comprehensive arrangement by which iran will have to prove that its program is really peaceful. >> israel is out there saying this is a deal based on deceit. how do you tell netanyahu that you've diffused the threat when this is wait and see period? >> it's based on facts and it's based on specific steps people have to take. it's based on intrusiveness in to their program that we don't have today. it's based on destruction of

their uranium. it's based on limitation on their stock. it's based on all kinds of things we've never had before, even the small amount of money being released to them, iran is going to lose 15 to 20 billion dollars over the next months. this is enormous price for iran to continue to pay if they don't live up to their word and prove to us that the program is peaceful. so there's nothing built on trust, we're not sitting here pretending that iran is going to suddenly turn over a new leaf. we have to prove it. and our structure in this agreement, i believe, will adequately prove it. >> you say that is a small amount of financial relief just about $7 billion this is country that the u.s. still considers to be the top sponsor of terrorism in the world. how do you control how they spend that money? are you confident that it's not going to the wrong places. >> what you have to do here is begin a process by which you can actually dismantle their program and prove what it is or isn't

doing. we're beginning in a place that will lock in their program where it is today with respect to critical facilities at the plutonium heavy water reactor, they will not be able to commission it. and we will no no know that because we can inspect it. today we can't. that makes everybody safer. we will be inside the enrichment facility that is built in to a mountain, the secret facility. we're going to get in to that. you telling me we're not better off being able to get in and see what is happening? of course we are, in each case where they have been able to enrich without our knowing exactly what they're doing, we will now be able to have greater inspection, greater knowledge, greater restraint and that will expand the amount of time it would take for them to break out and create a nuclear weapon. that makes israel safer, that makes the region safer, we believe it is right thing to do

to put to test whether or not they will actually show the world they have a peaceful nuclear program. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> schieffer: as you just heard there israel, america's closest ally in the region wasted no time in saying it wand no part of the deal and did not consider it bound by anything in it. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke just a short while ago. >> what was concluded in geneva last night is not an historic agreement. it's an historic mistake. this agreement has made the world a much more dangerous place. >> schieffer: benjamin netanyahu this morning, we want to go back now to margaret brennan made her way to the london bureau. good morning to you. how is united states going to handle this obvious disagreement with israel? >> well, this deal calls a lot

of friction with israel even before it was signed. benjamin netanyahu, israel's prime minister has been very bold and very spokal about what he sees as the obama administration going ahead with this diplomatic deal. but the israelis have been briefed extensively throughout this process. they are well aware of what is in this deal and what is not. but when you look at the region it's not just israel who is concerned here, it's the arab states who live in iran's back yard, allies to the u.s. like saudi arabia and some of the other gulf states. the u.s. has armed them indies decreal to the teeth in recent years to try to help change in policy is causing some concern, some insecurities there saying, well maybe the u.s. won't come to our own defense. u.s. is going to try to sell

this now, the administration has to convince israel, saudi and gulf countries that this is actually the safer path forward. secretary kerry's already said he's going to be on a plane flying to israel immediately after the thanksgiving holiday to try to smooth over some of the these concerns. >> schieffer: all right. thank you so much, margaret. we're joined by the chief washington correspondent for the "new york times" and a columnist for reuters and atlantic. david, you wrote in the late editions of the "times" this morning that this was what you called a modest down payment. what do you mean by that? >> what the united states is trying to accomplish here is to greatly expand the dash time to a bomb. amount of time it would take iran if it ever decided to get a weapon, to actually go race for it. this initial agreement buys them a month to a couple of months, people in the intelligence

agencies say. but the they won't be adding to the stockpile, i think secretary kerry is absolutely right when he session that they're much better off to have this than they would be not to have have it where the sys(úm would have built up in six months to something significantly greater. >> schieffer: what is your take? >> i think for kerry it's a step forward. it's very similar to me when he got israelis and palestinians to come back to the negotiating table. this is a freeze. so in essence we've got six months now to see if there can be an actual agreement whether they this program. that's a 1999-month process. it's a start, it's a very significant thing, people didn't think kerry would get this far but this is not some break through agreement at this point. >> schieffer: we've interviewed benjamin netanyahu a couple of times over the last six weeks, i guess, no surprise to me that he didn't like this. but i must say he came on even

stronger this morning than i thought he would. >> he did. what he said was, that israel would be less secure than it was before this agreement. what he means by that he believes that this agreement basically will be the only one they get. they won't get to the bigger one, thus it will have tried the status quo. but if the administration did not make an attempt to do this i think it's very hard to know whether you ever could have gotten roll back or dismantlement that's what they're trying to get at. >> schieffer: what do you think think happens with israel? >> i think israelis will make a lot of noise. we'll see what happens in congress, there will be pressure there for new sanctions. the iranians said if there aren't additional sanctions it will be off. it will be difficult for administration, the dangers is that no big deal emerges from this, iranian game where they negotiate every six months, every six months. so, the president show he's serious about reinstating the sanctions if the deal doesn't happen.

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i think that the senate has a sanction bill that increases sanctions which we passed in the house in july. i think moving forward with that but not implementing it for six months assuming that the iranians do what they say they're going to do. i think secretary of state is absolutely correct, verification is correct. we don't trustee ran, we need to verify they're going to do what they move towards final agreement which will ultimately dismantle and eliminate their ability to have nuclear weapon. >> schieffer: let me make sure i understand. the house has passed even tougher sanctions, you're hoping or you're hoping the senate will go along with that that put in proceed vie so to put it on hold for six months. >> majority leader reed before this agreement was reached said he was going to move forward on these after the thanksgiving break. assuming he does that i think it is appropriate that we wait six months to implement those which

will say to the iranians we need a final deal, if not. these tougher sanctions will go in to place. or if you do not follow this interim agreement those sanctions will go in to place. >> schieffer: if it works, it will be some good news on the political front for the white house, because with every day there just seems to be some new mind boggling development about the problems with obamacare. just this week administration officials testified the computer system still had about 40% to go before its done. there's now evidence that people in the white house including the president were briefed months before the program started that there were some flaws here. what happens here? are they going to have to take this thing down and start over? >> the process has been terrible, we're all very disappointed, those of us who support the affordable care act. but the affordable care act, bob, majority of the american public says, we need to knicks

it, not repeal it. and what they mean by that is, they know they need affordable quality health care access. as a result the necessity is that we fix this access to it and i think over time the american public are going to say it works well. i had woman who talked to me the other day whose son was involved in automobile accident some two and a half years ago. very serious automobile accident. he was on her policy because of the affordable care act he's now over 26 with preexisting condition and only reason he can gets health care is because of the affordable care act. she came up to me and thanked me. millions of people have already been helped. seniors, young people. people who went over their annual limit. >> schieffer: but still 61% of americans now oppose it. you know, i've got to say after the government shut down i thought the republicans dug

themselves in to such a hole they would never get out of it. been that seems to be washed away now by this failure of obamacare. >> i don't think obamacare has failed. access to obamacare has been a failure at this point in time it needs to be fixed. so from that standpoint the substance of obama compare is yet to be tested. and to the extent it has been tested it's been a success. >> schieffer: would you at this point if there was nothing else would you just be willing to shut the thing down and start over? >> no. not at this point. we don't need to start over. bob, i don't think the american people want to start over. they want a system that works. we all do. the republicans have offered no alternative at this point in time simply repeal and with all due respect to your figure i don't think the american public and number of recent polls support that objective. >> schieffer: all right. mr. majority leader.

the other side from the assistant house majority leader, the republican, kevin mccarthy. he is in his district in bakersfield, california, this morning. mr. mccarthy, what do you think about this deal that the president has just struck with iran? >> well, i would caution the president from over selling this deal. it is not a full dismantling of the program that would be historical deal. when you have friends and allies inside the region strongly opposed to it, i would caution. i agree with minority whip that we should move forward with the sanctions in the senate. one thing that we have to do, remember who we're dealing with, we're dealing with iran, one of the top supportest of terrorism around the world. this is providing them resources an money and we should not take this lightly. we have to have a full dismantling if we want the world to be safer. >> schieffer: you know, i was on airplanes this weekend, more

than one person i was talking to about this whole deal pending with iran, and they were saying, this might be a diversionary arctic by the administration, which is desperately looking for good news would you put it in that category yet? >> i would never judge upon that what we're dealing with international. i know they need some type of other news but that would be the biggest mistake any administration could do to try to make a decision for a political basis when you're dealing with american and lives around the world. i would hope that would never be the case. if it's not a full dismantling i don't think you'll bet a bipartisan support saying that is an historic deal. >> schieffer: let me shift to the other big news that is the republican strategy now on obamacare. what will you all do now, republican that i was talking to on one of these airplane trips this weekend said, you know, our talking points now are, don't talk, just let this thing

continue to roll out. what is your advice now on what to do about this? >> first, you have to see how this is rolling out. it's coming in three different failed ways. first way was the website. the president said from the very beginning they knew that it would fail and they rolled forward. supposed to be fixed in less than a week. it will not happen. second wave started if you have your healthcare you like it you can keep it. we know that is not true. now for everyone person who signed up for obamacare 44 americans have gotten a letter saying they can't quiche their health care. third most powerful wave some january 1, the cost. on average latest report said 41% premium increase throughout the nation. in five stacey premiums have gone up 100%. then you won't even -- whether you can keep your doctor. i do not believe you can fix this law to lower the cost and crease access.

we have scrap it start anew get bipartisan consensus that puts the patients first and lowers the premiums. the republicans have many ideas on this. >> what would you do to get bipartisan approach. i haven't seen many bipartisan approaches so far in all of this. >> i think the polls show, it would move both parties to come together. one thing couple of different things. number one raise cost of healthcare is the lack of tort reform, malpractice reform. going across state lines for insurance. you can do that with car insurance, but you can't do it with health insurance? the idea of small business able to pool together to get greater costs, greater ability to lower the costs. these have all been scored by the congressional budget office and it lowers the premiums from 10% to 8%. that is a direct different from what obamacare in raising your

cost bos let me ask you quickly. >> schieffer: is immigration reform dead for this year? >> no. immigration reform is going to happen. it's going to happen in a step by step method. i would say the president came out and supported that the other day saying the role that the republicans want to do and republicans have passed number of bills outside of committee. we have a broken process that immigration system, is broken, needs to be fixed. 42% of everyone is here illegally came here illegally we need to fix this system. >> schieffer: the clock just chimed we have to end it there. thank you so much. back in a minute. over the next 40 years the united states population is going to grow by over 90 million people, and almost all that growth is going to be in cities. what's the healthiest and best way for them to grow so that they really become cauldrons of prosperity and cities of opportunity?

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