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from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: today on "face the nation" the security precautions are unprecedented and tension over terrorism remains high but the americans continue to win gold at the olympics. close your eyes and ears if you don't want to know. americans picked up their second gold medal in snowboarding and sage said he was, well -- >> so stoked to be here. being part of the first gold is pretty cool then bringing home the gold is icing on the cake. >> schieffer: as stoked as the competitors may be, the threat of terrorism still hangs over the games. we'll have a report from sochi and get the latest on the security precautions from new york congressman peter king, a key member of the house
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intelligence and homeland security committee. back home, washington seems to be falling back sible to familiar gridlock. we'll talk about that with the number two democrat in the senate leadership dick durbin of illinois. plus analysis from our panel of experts. and -- >> ladies and gentlemen, the beatles! >> schieffer: we'll look back at the invasion of america that happened 50 years ago today. 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again. start with cbs news correspondent covering the sochi olympics, mark phillips. >> well can i'm happy to report that what is is sports the talk
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about security and corruption and ex pension of course the gay rights issue for the last few days since the games have actually started. sports has raised its head and people are pretty relieved. games have been running smoothly, the fears of really tight security on the ground here have not materialized as we know the russians have about, they say, 40,000 people involved in making these games safe. but most of them i'm happy to say are not visible in the olympics site spread through the hinterland around the whole district. if you drive up the road between this cluster here up in to the mountains where the skiing events are there's a long 40 or so mile road that goes up there and it is very carefully protected, soldiers in the woods, big military camps along the way. so far the great fear of these games, of course, it has been security and thus far nothing's happened which is good news. what has happened is the sports.
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couple of good wins for the u.s. team in snowboarding this new upside down over the snow slopestyle they call it event, two american golds. disappointment in the big downhill ski race from bodie miller, the new hampshire skier was the fastest in the practice runs. he fin ared eighth in the event. but good smooth start to the sports of this games which is the way it will continue. >> schieffer: you've been to about as many olympics as i've been to political conventions, how does this one shape up? >> all different. just as conventions probably not quite as many as you, just as conventions are you so are these games you have to distinguish between the pre and post 9/11 games. all of the post 9/11 games have been pretty tight security issues. fear of attack, of course, the case in london not so much in
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beijing, of course. but all of these games now have to invest heavily in security. here there's the added issue that this game is in the very southern part of russia in the north cauca,cus. there are groups around here that are not happy with the russian president here so that's added. an extra layer of concern but the games themselves, the russians have made a gigantic investment both financially and politically in reputation wise in these games, figure being thrown around is $50 billion. building this site out of nothing. they pretty well better do well in the medal table to make it success for them. awful lot riding on these games for them and for vladimir putin. >> schieffer: our man at the olympics. we always like it when mark phillips is our man at any big story. mark, thanks so much. >> my pleasure.
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>> schieffer: now we want to go now to long island and new york republican congressman peter king who sits on both the house homeland security and intelligence committees, you've been keeping close eye on this congressman. anything new to report on the security front this morning? >> no, bob, so far so good. it's a long haul, still several weeks to go. still i believe a dangerous situation but up to now there's been no incidents at all and again, hopefully this will continue over the next weeks we can focus on the games. but the worst thing we can do in any way is -- if anyone let their guard down between now and the end of the games. >> schieffer: are the russians cooperating any better than they were in the beginning with our people? >> somewhat better still not at the same level as chinese, british or greeks. they are still relick than to give intelligence they feel would allow us to determine their sources and methods, also
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certain amount of pride i believe that they feel they can handle a lot of this on their own. but there's been some more sharing than there has been, still not what it should be. as we saw last week with the toothpaste, there was some sharing there. and again so far so good but again i have real concerns base the russians themselves, like the russian police and military there is a lot of corruption there, that's what led to some of the previous attacks. they have more of heavy handed approach and not as able to pick of new answers, the way we are,. >> schieffer: i want to switch to edward snowden, big story that he used a school called a scrape tore get information from the computers at his post in hawaii. there has been some talk that he may have asked for the assignment in hawaii because he knew the security there was not
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as good as it was in some other posts. have you heard that? >> i have heard it. it has not been verified for me as far as i know but that is part of the ongoing investigation. this was unprecedented what snowden did here. can never be allowed to happen. there's been a number of reforms the nsa has instituted but this is very reminiscent of what happened with hanson, the fbi spy, the fbi, nsa are so concerned about outside forces penetrating their system that they just not take proper precautions internally. part of that also is because people such as snowden and others in his position they want to have facility to be able to move quickly, get things done so they were not the restrictions on them that there should have been. a lot that have has been changed, there is monitoring now of what goes on. snowden would not be able to do it again in the future. as for now of course too late for that. but at least there are some precautions being taken, again
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full ex us a stiff report. can't allow something like this to happen. so much we do, so much is done to prevent even slightest bit of information to come out then you have millions of documents just tumbling out under snowden. >> schieffer: do you think snowden knew what documents he was getting? >> i think so. he was doing thorough search. he may not have known when he started exactly what he was going to find, but i believe he knows again what he's been turning over. again, i can't say that for certain but i would think this seems very systematic, very coordinated. i'm sure there was some overlap, some extra documents he got maybe he wasn't planning on didn't get all he wanted to get. but the thing is on balance this was extremely successful in the documents that he was able to get. >> the chairman of the committee you sit on, mike rogers said on this broadcast, "face the nation," that he believed that the russians had helped snowden at several points along the way.
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what is your take on that? >> i don't think there's anything to disprove that. still the subject of investigation. mike rogers has very good sources. again that is still the subject of investigations and something that cannot be ruled out. >> why do you think, if i can shift to another subject, that is immigration, a week ago the speaker, john boehner, said he thought there was real chance for immigration reform then friday he kind of stunned everybody in washington by saying, nope, not going to happen this year. we just don't trust president obama. what happened? >> there was republican retreat last week, this would have been tough in any case to get majority. republican districts this is not a very popular issue, nationwide something republican party should do when you take it district by district it's hard to get majority of republicans to sign on to it. john boehner wanted to make every effort to do it before ryan did.
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the national leadership would like it done. then president's state of the union didn't help matters and started getting a push back from republican base against members in these districts where there is no real strong support for immigration reform. certainly not what call legalization or pathway to citizenship. i think boehner felt with everything else going on this year, with all the emphasis on obamacare not worth having an internal fight going in to the election. right now things seem to be going republican way. >> schieffer: all right. mr. king, we want to thank you very much for joining us this morning. thanks so much. >> bob, thank you. >> schieffer: and joining us now the number two democrat in the senate richard durbin, he's in springfield, illinois this morning and new hampshire republican kelly ayot she is in nashua this morning. can go to pick up on what peter king was saying. do you think that in somehow, some way that the president's
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state of the union speech backfired as he suggested, in other words, when the president said, we want -- if the republicans want to help, okay, but if they don't, we're just going to go it alone. do you think that has caused republicans to step back and say, okay, if he wants to go it alone, let him go. >> well, bob, today the excuse is state of the union address when it comes to their opposition to the president, any excuse will do. look at the immigration issue, the president stepped back said i'm not going to involve myself or chide or push house republicans i want them to come to the agreement to support the bipartisan senate immigration reform bill. and we were teased over and over again, the tea party tease, kept coming out of the house, maybe we'll do this. maybe we won't. and then last friday as you mentioned they decided speaker boehner said we're not going forward because we just don't trust president obama. let me tell you, any excuse will do. the bottom line is this, we have a strong bipartisan, fair and
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balanced bill that came out of the united states senate. it was sent over to the house of representatives if they made good faith effort we can find agreement on this important issue. >> schieffer: senator, what do you think, why do you think that john boehner suddenly stepped back? was this in response to the president's speech or was it that he just can't get his caucus together over there in the house? >> well, i have to say, bob, i think there is a real trust deficit right now that the speaker is facing it's related to obamacare and the disastrous roll out because, let's think immigration means a lot of complex things well. in addition to that the administration issuing executive orders to change the law very frequently. i think there's a trust deficit that's related. then the president came out in the state of the union talked about more executive orders that certainly i think didn't help the situation. i supported the bill in the senate, i think we should solve
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this. i hope the speaker can find a way forward. certainly the bill that came out of the senate was not perfect but it was a good solution to a hard problem. i think this is an important issue to solve not only for the country but for the republican party. >> schieffer: do you think, senator, that republicans can win a presidential election if they don't find some way to appeal to hispanics who are such a growing part of the voting public right now, because they just almost -- mitt romney got fewer republican votes than any -- even any republican in recent years. aren't you going to have to do something on that line? >> i hope, bob, that we will take this issue up because this is an issue of national security. an issue for our economy. and i think the republicans, there are many ideas that we have that hispanic voters on the economic front certainly on values that we share with them. so i think we need to solve it
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and here's the deal. the status quo is totally unacceptable. both on illegal immigration front and legal immigration with regard to our economy. that said, there is a big trust defies which you can understand. when do you big things poorly like this administration has done with owe mamba care you can -- obamacare, there is a lock of trust among house republicans. >> schieffer: what is it that they don't trust on the immigration front? are they afraid he's going to -- -- what? >> well, i mean, what he's done is issued multiple executive orders where the law said this, we're going to do this because it's not working out. i think that is what it comes from. the issue relates to securing the border, wanting to avoid a third wave of illegal immigration now that said i think administration is ignored securing the border they do so at their own political peril. i hope that the house republicans will take this up
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and solve this problem because status quo is not acceptable for the country. >> schieffer: senator durbin, last night the attorney general announced basically another executive action, he said that he plans to extend the rights to gay people involved in federal court suits, in bankruptcies, things of that nature. the same rights to gay couples that married couples now enjoy. one thing i can think of i guess is somebody's charged with a crime in a federal court, this means that their partner could not testify against them as is the case with people who are married, men to women. having said that, it also seems to be something that doesn't impact on very many people. do you think this was significant in what the attorney general said last night, what is going to be the reaction up there on capitol hill? >> well, i can tell you it's logical, it's consistent, it's
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compassionate. we have basically said that we -- courts have led us in this conclusion at the federal level we are recognizing the legal rights of same-sex couples. and with the attorney general has said that is how we are going to administer justice in this administration. consistent with that supreme court decision there. are those who do not recognize this politically, who oppose it politically. if you accept the premise that there should be marriage equality at the federal level when it comes to recognizing the rights to benefits, attorney general saying we're going to apply the same rules as we do for other married couples for same-sex couples when it comes to our courts. >> schieffer: senator, ayotte will there be bush back against this, anything that if they do not like it that they can do about it? >> well, the memo comes out monday, i haven't seen all the facts yet. it appears to be another example of the obama administration imposing its will on the states. foresight like new hampshire
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it's not going to be an issue because our legislature decided to recognize same-sex marriage. it could be issue for other states that are having this debate will have made different policy decisions. >> schieffer: let me also ask both of you, more confusion apparently now on the health care. we now learn that the administration has told people, although they haven't announced it publicly or at the time, that if you don't like your health care plan in some cases you can now switch and get another one. in this seems every day and every way seems to me more confused, is there any hope of getting it straightened out? >> let's look at the bottom line. the bottom line is this. ten million americans have health insurance today who would not have had it without the affordable compare act. ten million. we can also say this it is going to reduce the deficit more than we thought it would. we were seeing a decline in the growth of cost of health care exactly our goal in passing this
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original legislation. i'm finding people as i go across illinois who for the first time in their lives have an opportunity for affordable health insurance for their families. now there are many republicans who are wishing that this fails, hoping they can find any sled of evidence against it we had bad roll out, concede that point. since then we're gaining steam i think ultimately, we're going to find you can't go back. you have to extend the health insurance protection to the 25, 30 million americans who ultimately have it and will be a better nation for it. >> schieffer: senator ayotte i'll let you have the last word on this subject. what happens now on obamacare. >> that senator durbin can -- i hear it from my constituents they have been writing me concerned about higher health care costs, losing their doctors and also just concerns about disastrous roll out, now we have 22,000 people seeking appeal, no
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process by administration for them to do that. what happens to those people. the law is deeply unpopular at this point the administration is trying to come up with senate but people are really seeing the affect of this and deeply concerned. i can tell you in my state. >> schieffer: 20 seconds to you, senator ayotte, what should the president do right now? about this? >> the president right now he needs to stop changing the law based on executive order. needs to work with congress and frankly i think we need to start over, bob. this has been a mess. you've got a situation where people are going to pay more in new hampshire we only have one insurer who got on the exchange in ten of our 26 possibles have been excluded. less choice. needs to work across the aisle at this point. >> schieffer: we'll be back in one minute to talk about the beatles. for retirement.
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and committed to american energy, wherever it comes from. >> >> schieffer: well, today's the day. it was the day 50 years ago, february 9, 1964, that the beatles took america by storm. it's been in all the papers all over tv. so why yet another flashback? well, here's why. because in our flashback we answer the important question, did the beatles know who walter cronkite was? >> ladies and gentlemen, the beatles. ♪ >> it was the dawn of beatle mania, 73 million americans nearly 40% of the country tuned to cbs on that sunday night in 1964 to see the beatles live on the "ed sullivan show."
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♪ when they stepped off the plane at new york's kennedy airport. >> they're great. >> john, paul, george and ringo charmed american audiences and interviewers alike. >> i may be a little square i don't know what beatles means. >> just means -- >> the overwhelming reception didn't stop in new york. after the ed sullivan show they boarded a train for washington, d.c. to play their very first concert on u.s. soil. turns out the dc fans were just as wild about the lads from liverpool. >> how long do you think beatle mania will last? >> as long as you all keep
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coming. >> amidst all the hysteria it fell to cbs news to ask the band the really tough question. >> one final question. have you ever heard of walter cronkite. >> no. >> good old walter. >> nbc news. >> thank you very much. >> cbs news. >> the beatles recorded 13 albums more than 200 songs, they charted 20 number one singles and became the single most influential singing group ever. it all began that sunday night on "the ed sullivan show" by the way, walter cronkite knew who they were and he loved them. our "face the nation" flashback. tall the building is,
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♪ this magic moment ♪ >> schieffer: as a journalist i don't endorse political candidates nor do i contribute to political campaigns. i wouldn't want to and besides cbs wisely doesn't allow it. nor are we allowed to endorse products, that's another good rule. so what follows is neither a paid commercial nor an indoorsment. rather it is just a simple thank you to the drugstore chain cvs for announcing it will no longer sell tobacco products. that's a thank you from a survivor of bladder cancer who still takes daily medication to
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control two other cancer-related incurable diseases, colitis and diabetes. i began chewing tobacco at age 16 because i was a ballplayer. that was part of the culture. but the heavy addiction continued long after my arm gave out. today, i consider myself lucky to be alive. it's going to cost cvs $2 billion a year in revenue but the company decided it could not promote itself as a health care provider if it continued to sell the product that is the number one cause of preventible disease and death. a product directly responsible for 480,000 deaths. last year. there was a lot more back and forth last week about obamacare. but to me the health news that really mattered came from cvs. back in a minute.
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