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then, in commando gear, jumped out, ran into the shop, seemed perfectly relaxed as they broke into glass cases and stole diamonds worth $3.5 million. and then they got back in their cars and just drove away. >> they entered the door, broke all the glass in the cases, take the jewelry, and are out in less than 30 seconds and have a getaway plan. within a matter of hours, they are in another country. >> safer: for almost 90 years, the place to go for both sophisticated and laugh-out-loud humor has been the "new yorker" magazine. chances are, the cartoons are the first things you turn to. >> i suppose you came in here to see the cartoons. >> safer: every wednesday, ink- stained characters hoping against hope to get their works published. >> this is one of his masterpieces-- a dog at heaven's gates asking, "is there any chance of getting my testicles back?"
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they led a task force of more than 1,000 federal agents, state police, and boston cops. tonight, they will speak of the disturbing evidence that cracked the case, and of a debate among the investigators that ultimately led to the dragnet's violent end. the afternoon of april 15, the fbi's man in charge of boston got a text-- "two large explosions near the finish line." for special agent rick deslauriers, the marathon became a sprint to catch the killers before they struck again. >> rick deslauriers: i felt that week that i had the weight of the world on my shoulders. and i'm sure i wasn't the only one. >> pelley: did you feel, if there was a third bombing, it would be on you? >> deslauriers: that's everybody's fear, "it would be on me. it would be on the joint terrorism task force." but that wasn't what drove us. what drove us was preventing more people from getting hurt. >> pelley: 264 were hurt
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already; three killed. moments before, rick deslauriers had been counting the days to retirement-- 26 years at the fbi. now, on boylston street, he took over the biggest investigation of his life. >> deslauriers: it was a scene of devastation. there was evidence everywhere. >> pelley: and you said what to yourself in that moment? >> deslauriers: i said, "we will find those responsible for these despicable crimes." >> pelley: fbi director robert mueller ordered every office in the world to back up deslauriers. deslauriers' link to headquarters was executive assistant director stephanie douglas. >> stephanie douglas: we were very, very concerned about other bombs in boston, but we had to think beyond that. were there other bombs in other cities? were u.s. interests even abroad at risk? so we had to consider everything. we could not eliminate anything. >> pelley: first came the crime scene-- 12 twelve blocks of debris, abandoned backpacks, and bomb parts blown to smithereens. >> deslauriers: they set up a grid pattern. evidence could be on
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windowsills. evidence could be on roofs of buildings. evidence could be anywhere. >> pelley: are they going down the street with tweezers? >> douglas: sometimes. when they need to, they're doing that. but yes, they are very carefully picking up everything they see. >> pelley: they saw a battery pack for model cars and chunks of two pressure cookers. the cookers concentrate the explosion for maximum force. you decided to set up a warehouse near logan airport. >> douglas: right. >> pelley: everything swept from the street was processed in this 46,000-square-foot warehouse. twice a day, a plane flew the items to the fbi lab in quantico, virginia. >> douglas: and you basically have almost like an assembly line of evidence. so it gets tagged, it gets recorded as evidence, so that you're preserving that chain of custody. but it also... for all the different parts and components that would later go to recreating the devices themselves. >> pelley: the bombs. >> douglas: yes. >> pelley: recreating the bombs.
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>> douglas: yes. >> pelley: from the pieces that you found. >> douglas: yes. >> pelley: successful as that was, it turned out the evidence that would solve the case had been collected before the first bomb exploded that monday. the fbi could travel back in time though the lenses of dozens of security cameras up and down boylston. >> douglas: almost 13,000 different videos were obtained, and 120,000... actually, more than 120,000 still photographs. >> pelley: at the fbi lab in virginia, 120 analysts were searching video feeds from boston. what are you looking for? >> deslauriers: somebody who just doesn't look similar to others in a crowd who would be watching a race. >> pelley: was there a eureka moment in terms of the video? at some point somebody said, "hey, boss, have a look at this"? >> deslauriers: yes, there was. it was, i believe, early wednesday morning, and we watched that video hundreds and hundreds of times. >> douglas: you can see an individual, a tall man wearing a
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white ball cap walk into the frame. he has a backpack slung over one of his shoulders. he puts the backpack down very nonchalantly. he joins the crowd. you clearly see everybody look very, very definitely to the left, like they've heard something, they've seen something. so you know that first blast has gone off. he does not do that. he does not do what everybody else in that video does, he does not turn to his left. he instead just stands there for a second or two, and walks very deliberately back the same direction that he came in. >> pelley: the eureka video hasn't been seen by the public; it is being kept for the trial. but this still photo shows much the same view of the suspect and the people who would be torn apart by the blast. let me ask you to describe what you see in that picture. >> deslauriers: i see the subject, the individual who has
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been charged in the investigation. and i see people who are grievously... who are grievously injured in that blast, and i see individuals who died in that blast. >> pelley: the people along the fence line there. >> deslauriers: several of them, yes. very, very emotional time when i look at that, to know what happened a few moments afterwards. >> douglas: i believe i see his backpack on the ground. and then, i see one of the people that was killed as a result of that bomb. >> pelley: do you know his name? >> douglas: it's martin richard. >> pelley: martin richard was eight years old. his seven-year-old sister, jane, lost a leg. their father bill suffered hearing damage from the bomb in the backpack laid at their feet. in the video, the backpack explodes 20 seconds after the man in the white hat walks away. stephanie douglas saw it in the fbi's washington command center. nobody i've talked to can quite find the words. >> douglas: it's a horrible
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video to watch. i mean, after you... after the bomb goes off, obviously, it's a very smoky situation, there's a lot of smoke. and the smoke clears, and what you saw is very happy scene of people watching that marathon is no longer that. even after seeing something so horrible, i remember this survivor who... unfortunately, his clothes were on fire. and i just remember this police and i just remember this police officer getting down on his hands and knees, and putting out the flames on this person with his bare hands. and i just thought to myself, you know, "what an incredible contrast of events-- something so horrific, and then we have this person, with no thought or... of his own comfort or consequences to himself, rush in
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and actually do something like that. that was so brave." i still remember that very clearly. >> pelley: only two days had passed. now, they were looking for every image of the suspect they called "white hat." massachusetts state police analysts found him with a man in a black hat. which turned out to be his older brother. >> douglas: yes. >> pelley: now, you have the tsarnaev brothers. >> douglas: yes. >> pelley: but you don't know that. >> douglas: no, i don't know that. i don't know who they are. >> pelley: then, suddenly, that wednesday, confusion reigned when cable news channels erroneously reported that a suspect had been arrested and was headed to the courthouse. the error caused pandemonium according to u.s. attorney carmen ortiz, who's leading the prosecution. >> carmen ortiz: and i remember turning to my colleague and saying to my press person, saying, "do we have someone in custody?" and i turned to rick deslauriers, "do we have someone in custody?" and... and they were like, "no, we don't have anyone in custody." i think that kind of misinformation makes it appear as if government isn't in
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control, the investigation is sort of, you know, confusing, and so it can be very, very harmful. >> pelley: more harm was done the next morning when the "new york post" added to the erroneous reporting by putting a man with a white hat on its front page. the problem was, it wasn't the right man in the white hat. >> ortiz: that generated tremendous risk and harm. it gives people a false sense of security, thinking, "oh, they've identified these suspects," when it turns out that it's wrong individuals. it puts those individuals at tremendous risk. >> pelley: the risk to the innocent lent urgency to the debate over whether to release the real pictures. why wouldn't you release the pictures? isn't that the fastest way to find the perpetrators? >> douglas: sure, but it's also gives them every opportunity to escape. remember, we do not have the identities of anybody. >> pelley: so your concern was that if you put the pictures out there to the public, they'd know they'd been had and they'd run.
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>> douglas: yes, absolutely. >> deslauriers: the countervailing argument is you had individuals... we had photographic evidence of individuals who we strongly believed were responsible for the bombings, and we need to identify them as quickly as possible. >> pelley: so, thursday, rick deslauriers walked out in time for the evening news. >> deslauriers: these images should be the only ones-- i emphasize the only ones-- that the public should view to assist us. >> pelley: the pictures set events in motion that deslauriers didn't predict; in fact, didn't recognize even after they started. >> deslauriers: my wife was watching the news that evening. >> an officer has been shot... >> deslauriers: and there was a story about an m.i.t. police officer, who was subsequently identified as officer sean collier, who had been murdered that evening and right on campus. my wife looked at me and she said, "i bet those are your guys and they're on the run right now. and i bet they murdered this police officer." and i didn't believe her. i said, "oh, no, i don't think so." and i went to bed.
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>> pelley: your wife had cracked the case and you went to bed. >> deslauriers: i did not believe that she had cracked the case at the time. i went to bed. >> douglas: i went to bed probably around 10:00, and this is probably a sad commentary on my life, but my blackberry was on the pillow next to me... >> deslauriers: and somewhere around 12:30, quarter to one in the morning, i received a phone call from one of my assistant special agents... agents in charge, jeff sallet... >> douglas: and my phone rang about a little after 1:00 in the morning. >> deslauriers: i woke her out of a sound sleep and i said, "an m.i.t. police officer has been murdered earlier this evening by individuals we believe to be responsible for the bombing. and they are on the streets of watertown right now, engaged in a shootout with the watertown police department." ( gunshots ) >> pelley: it was combat. two suspects threw pipe bombs and a pressure cooker bomb at the police. an officer was gravely wounded. those who argued that releasing the pictures would cause the
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suspects to run were right. was putting the pictures out the right call? >> douglas: yes, i think, at the end of the day, we really had no choice. believe me, the death of sean collier is not lost on the fbi. we consider it an incredibly tragic event. but i think, at the end of the day, given the facts as we knew them at the time, we made the best decision. >> pelley: how do you feel about that decision now? >> deslauriers: i stand by that decision, scott. nobody could have reasonably foreseen that a police officer would be murdered. what could reasonably be foreseen is that these individuals could have had more bombs, could have set those bombs off and caused carnage similar or even greater to than what they caused on april 15. >> pelley: one suspect was killed, the other vanished. in minutes, the fbi matched the dead man's fingerprints to tamerlan tsarnaev, an immigrant from kyrgyzstan. other records showed he had a
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brother. >> douglas: yeah, and i remember that so clearly. somebody walking in with a manila folder and said, "okay, here's his brother." and they opened it, and it's his picture. and i go, "that's him, that's 'white hat'. that's who we should be looking for." >> pelley: friday, the governor ordered a lockdown of boston. but a house-to-house search turned up nothing. >> douglas: everybody's exhausted and deflated. you know, i mean, it's a very sad day for boston, another sad day for boston. >> pelley: but then, a man noticed someone in a boat in his backyard. dzhokhar tsarnaev was wounded, but alive. what did you think as he went into court to be arraigned? >> deslauriers: he had a smug grin on his face much of the time in the courtroom. he would glance over his right shoulder back to his relatives, and smile and smirk at them. and i found that absolutely galling, and i found it reprehensible. >> pelley: the attorney general has decided to seek the death penalty in this case. >> deslauriers: yes, he has, and
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i support that decision. >> pelley: dzhokhar tsarnaev has pled not guilty. his defense team declined to speak with us. u.s. attorney carmen ortiz is preparing for a november trial. >> cbs money watch update sponsored by: >> good evening. china's independent company is condemning reported spying by the msa. california's dmv is looking into a possible credit card security breech. and the number of americans who drink coffee is down from last year from 63 to 61%. i'm jeff glor, cbs news.
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>> simon: the largest, most successful gang of diamond thieves in the world is credited with over 370 heists worth $500 billion, and it's getting bigger and more daring every year. the gang is composed of networks of teams who work together, in europe mostly. but they have done jobs in 35 countries as far afield as tokyo and dubai. they are ex-yugoslavs, many fought in the serbian special forces during the bosnian wars. they are called the pink panthers, and that's not a joke. they got their name from those famous peter sellers movies of the '70s and '80s, but as you can well imagine, there are scores of jewelers and cops in many countries who do not find them funny at all. their exploits have become the stuff of legend, but what they did in dubai a few years ago shocked even the police officers
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who'd been after them for years. security camera footage captured the scene at the upscale wafi mall. they drove right into the mall in two audis, crashed the cars into the doors of the graff jewelry store. then, men in commando gear jumped out, ran into the shop, seemed perfectly relaxed as they broke into glass cases and bagged diamonds worth $3.5 million. then, they got back in their cars and just drove away. how did you react when you heard about the dubai heist? i mean, it was pretty brazen wasn't it? >> ron noble: i had to see the video to believe that they actually drove two cars through the mall, and then to do all that in less than 45 seconds. yeah, it was... it was hard to believe. but it happened. >> simon: that's the world's chief cop who found it hard to believe. ron noble is secretary general of interpol, the global police organization based in lyon,
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france. >> noble: i'd say that they are the most notorious organized crime group that i've been involved in investigating in my life. >> simon: so, they're really good? >> noble: the problem is that they've become legendary because they are so good in their planning and their execution of robberies. >> simon: legendary , in part, because of their name. remember this scene from that hilarious peter sellers comedy where the thief hides the diamond in a jar of cold cream? well, these professional thieves did exactly the same thing after they hit a high-end jewelry store in london in 2003, making off with $40 million in diamonds. that's how they became known as the pink panthers. incidentally, it was the largest jewel heist in british history. then, tokyo-- men wearing wigs entered luxury shops, immobilized clerks with pepper spray, and made off with
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diamonds, a tiara, and the comtesse de vendome necklace worth $30 million. copenhagen 2007-- a jewelry store inside a hotel. in front of stunned guests, three men raced through the lobby and into the store. they smashed glass cases and made off with more than a million dollars worth of stones. in the last 20 years, they have been responsible for a half a billion dollars in robberies. in all that time, there's been one fatality. what makes the panthers so successful, noble says, is how they do weeks of surveillance and preparation before an attack. these undercover shots show a team taking the measure of a target before a hit. >> noble: the m.o. of the pink panthers is very clear-- they tend to use a woman to case the jewelry stores first. >> simon: an attractive woman. >> noble: attractive woman, woman wearing expensive clothing, woman wearing expensive jewelry. >> simon: a well-heeled man
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enters next, blocks the door open with his foot, and clears the path for the smash-and-grab men-- four people all together. precise timing and well-planned getaways are their trademark. >> noble: from the time they enter the door until they break all the glass in the cases, take the jewelry, and are out in less than 30 seconds. and then, they have a getaway plan. within a matter of hours, they're in another country. that's their classic m.o., if you will. >> simon: if the mafia grew out of sicily, the pink panthers are a product of montenegro and serbia, the now independent republics in what was once yugoslavia. they were allies in the brutal bosnian wars against the muslims. when u.n. sanctions halted the flow of products into the country, groups of soldiers became professional smugglers. did many of them have paramilitary training? >> noble: the core were fighters during the war-- paramilitary training, very organized, very disciplined and ruthless. and those were the ones who
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started it back in '94, '95, '96. >> simon: so they learned their trade in the war? andrea scholz: yes, yes. they grown up with aggression. they know, if you want to have success in life, you have to use force, and for them, it's common. >> simon: andrea scholz is a risk prevention consultant in germany who has been investigating the gang for ten years. so the distinctive thing about pink panthers from robbers in other countries is that, since they're so experienced in war, they are not afraid? >> scholz: they are not afraid, absolutely. >> simon: to date, interpol has identified 800 core pink panthers using photos, fingerprints, and dna. they are notorious for using fake passports, which makes them very hard to catch. noble says, unlike the mafia, they have no chain of command. >> noble: they've got networks, and depending on the robbery, there's someone who organizes a particular robbery, but there
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are no kingpins. there's no al capone or john gotti at the top of the organized crime groups like classic or traditional organized crime. >> simon: they have specialists in everything, from alarms to safecracking to stealing cars, and those experts are not hard to find. do they have connections in every country? >> jan glassey: in europe, in quite every country, you have the balkan community, so they have the possibility to have a connection. in switzerland, we know that, and it's the same in france, in germany, in sweden, in denmark. >> simon: swiss detective jan glassey says geneva is one of their favorite cities because it's so rich. it's where billionaires come to shop and play. so they went into this store? >> glassey: they went inside this store. >> simon: and if they get... if they only get 15 watches, they've made like a million bucks... >> glassey: yeah. >> simon: ...in 50 seconds. >> glassey: yeah, exactly. >> simon: this team, wearing wigs and sunglasses, robbed a luxury store on the rue de rhone, the street in geneva. they grabbed $4 million worth of
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diamonds and made their getaway in motorcycles down a street which was too narrow for police cars. so it's almost a sport between you and them, isn't it? >> glassey: it is. it is always a bit like that. i mean, they are always a step before us because they are changing the modus operandi. and yes, it's a little bit a cat and mouse game. >> simon: they are professionals. >> glassey: they are really, really professionals. >> simon: there is no way for you to get there in time. >> glassey: no, no, no. for the cops, it is very difficult. normally, we can say between three and five minutes. >> simon: and by that time, they are in france. >> glassey: at that time, they are on the way to france. >> simon: a james bond blockbuster could be made out of what they did in st. tropez. the roads get clogged in the summer. so, after posing as tourists and scoring more than $3 million worth of jewelry, the panthers made their getaway by sea. and when you hear that they got out of st. tropez in speed boats, are you thinking, "that's pretty good"?
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>> glassey: i really... all the cops are thinking that, "that's pretty good, but now we have a lot of job to do." ( laughs ) >> simon: we drove to the seaside town of ulcinj, montenegro, to meet a semi- retired pink panther who has been associated with that job. he calls himself "filip." he agreed to talk to us at a rented apartment in a secret location. we had to turn off our electronic devices before he appeared, and we agreed not to show his face. how many jobs have you done? >> filip: nine. >> simon: nine. what was your best robbery? >> filip: my best robbery? okay, my best robbery was in france. my best robbery, it was very speedy. >> simon: very speedy. >> filip: yeah, very speedy, like speedy gonzalez. ( laughs ) it was good money and nobody hurt. >> simon: you get a couple of million euros in france, and
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then how did you get them someplace where you could get money? >> filip: i have connection everywhere. if i say everywhere, i mean everywhere. we go to belgium, we have friends. >> simon: when they go to belgium, they always drop in on antwerp, where gems worth billions are traded every day, >> patrick peys: we know that a lot of diamonds come to antwerp- - stolen diamonds, stolen jewelry. why do they come to antwerp? because the diamond trade is here in antwerp. >> simon: patrick peys is chief inspector of the antwerp diamond squad. >> peys: if you compare their volume and their value, the best products in the world, of course. that's why diamonds are so much used in other criminal acts. >> simon: making matters worse for cops, only the most expensive diamonds have laser inscriptions with identifying numbers.
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and even then, large diamonds can be recut, making it impossible to tell whether or not they've been stolen. so from what you're saying, being a diamond thief isn't a bad career. ( laughs ) you make a lot of money, and the odds are with you that you're not going to get caught. >> peys: i wouldn't advise anybody to start that career, but yes, i can imagine that, from their view that, yeah, it's a living. it's a way of living, and the possibilities of getting caught are probably not that high. >> simon: and recently, we learned the pink panthers have started branching out. we know them as jewelry thieves. are they expanding their operations? >> noble: they're expanding their operations into art, and very, very fine art. >> simon: in 2008, a group of armed and masked panthers hit this museum in zurich, making off with a monet, a van gogh, a degas and a cezanne. it was the largest art robbery
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in european history. the last of the paintings was recovered in april 2012 in a dramatic raid captured on videotape. a serbian swat team stormed this house to arrest the men accused of snatching the impressionist works. the cops took a van in for examination and found something hidden in the ceiling. when they pulled it out, they discovered it was cezanne's "boy in the red vest"-- estimated value, $113 million. but nailing a couple of panthers doesn't help the police nearly as much as they would like it to. if one of these guys gets caught, will he squeal? will he give evidence about the other people, his partners? >> glassey: no, there is an omerta between them. >> simon: the omerta really works. >> glassey: the omerta really works, and when we are speaking of the best teams, a lot of them are really friends. that means they grew up together.
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>> simon: still, since 2007, hundreds of arrests have been made, but those panthers just keep on reproducing. and we understand there are approximately 180 new members in the last couple of years? >> noble: yes, so the next generation is being recruited. >> simon: and trained, presumably? >> noble: recruited and trained. >> simon: their daring has inspired legions of copycats. disguising themselves as women in burkas, these thieves robbed a jewelry store in a mall in bahrain. and this gang took to their motorcycles to rob a jewelry store in london. >> noble: the copycats are really just organized crime groups that have identified an easy way to make money based on the celebrity status, i would say, in large part, of the pink panthers. >> simon: and the police admit that, unfortunately, they themselves didn't help matters when they started calling the gang "pink panthers." >> noble: the problem with this group is that the name "pink panthers," it engenders inside
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us the first memory is the movie or movies about the pink panthers, and we smile at the name of pink panthers. >> simon: and here's why. >> does your dog bite? >> no. >> i thought you said your dog did not bite! >> that is not my dog! >> simon: and indeed, the first thing you think of when you hear "pink panthers" is comedy. >> noble: that's why we try to highlight, whenever we can, the way in which they perpetrate these robberies. they are not nice guys. these are not nice guys who are stealing from the rich to give to the poor. these are just cold-blooded and ruthless and notorious thieves. aflac. ♪ aflac, aflac, aflac! ♪ [ both sigh ] ♪
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featured a caricature of a snooty new yorker of the day, right down to his monocle. they called him eustace tilley, an imaginary twit, mocking the self-importance of both the magazine and its readers. and despite the excellence of the articles from a long list of legendary writers, those readers usually turn first to the cartoons. we've ventured behind the scenes to see how the drawings are selected. as for the man who picks them, he could be a cartoon character himself. if there's an intersection that screams new york, new york, it's 42nd and broadway-- times square, the theater district. the greatest show on earth-- new yorkers of every stripe rubbing elbows with tourists and each other. the face in the crowd is bob mankoff, new york born and bred, headed to work around the corner, to a place where laughs
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are born, and also laid to rest. >> bob mankoff: i had this idea for a cartoon. this was basically a verbal cartoon. okay, people love to go to tuscany. and i had to sort of figure out, "okay, that's good, tuscany is great." and what do they rave about in tuscany? the food and the people and everything. i thought of this woman on the phone, saying "we loved tuscany. the cell reception was fabulous and the wifi was to die for." ( laughter ) that's a badda-bing, badda-boom cartoon. no, i think this is okay... >> safer: mankoff is cartoon editor of the "new yorker." to say he knows his stuff is an understatement. he's studied every cartoon the magazine has published. from the roaring '20s to the present day, they form a stunning reflection of american mores and manners, the haves, the have nots; fashion, art, big business, kids, pets,
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television, trends; and this being new york-- psychiatrists, of course. all told, 80,000 published cartoons. >> safer: what are your... if you had to choose the five or six best. >> mankoff: well, you know, i honestly... it's not just tough, it's impossible in a way because you would choose different ones in different ways. here are some great cartoons. the charles addams cartoon is classic. >> safer: addams' ghoulish family is about to pour boiling oil on some christmas carolers. >> mankoff: the michael crawford cartoon. >> safer: it's the french army knife-- all wine corkscrews. >> mankoff: that's a perfect cartoon. there's a michael shaw cartoon there's a michael shaw cartoon where a couple is looking at the t.v.. >> safer: saying, "gays and lesbians getting married, haven't they suffered enough?" >> mankoff: then there's a classic peter steiner from 1993,
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with two dogs sitting in front of a computer saying, "on the internet, no one knows you're a dog." the peter arno cartoon where the plane is crashing. >> safer: in arno's 1941 drawing, the pilots bailed out, and the engineer is saying, "well back to the old drawing board." >> mankoff: that phrase originates... >> safer: with that cartoon? >> mankoff: with that cartoon. and that's true of the earlier cartoon in which the mother is saying, "eat it. it's broccoli, dear." >> safer: and the kid answers, "i say it's spinach, and i say the hell with it." the year was 1928. in those early days of bathtub gin and backstage musicals, it wasn't long before the magazine and the cartoons took hold in the national consciousness. in the 1933 film classic "42nd street," the "new yorker" had a short product placement role. >> then there will be 13 pages in the "new yorker," the smart, sophisticated weekly..." >> safer: advertisers took note. outlining its plans to sell the new 1935 pontiac, general motors
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targeted the magazine's upscale readership. >> just the people for whom a pontiac would serve as an ideal second car. >> safer: the magazine still draws an affluent crowd, numbering a million subscribers. surprisingly, just roughly 10% live in and around new york, with the other 90% spread around the country, pockets of sophistication in the boondocks mapped out in saul steinberg's famous "new yorker" cover. >> hey, how are you? >> well, i suppose you came in here to show me cartoons? >> safer: every wednesday, a nervous band of ink-stained wretches gathers at bob mankoff's office... >> well, let's see what you got here. all right. >> safer: ...hoping against hope to sell him a cartoon. as for what their paid, no one's talking. >> sam gross: how many have been accepted, i really don't know. >> safer: there's the grizzled veteran sam gross, who figures
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he's submitted 30,000 cartoons, give or take. 30,000? >> gross: yeah. >> safer: many consider this his masterpiece-- a dog at heaven's gate, asking, "is there any chance of getting my testicles back?" >> gross: i still have to push the envelope. >> mankoff: sam has always pushed the envelope, things that you couldn't quite do. how you doing? >> safer: there's always a little preliminary chit chat. >> how you been? all right. >> safer: farley katz specializes in the far out, in both cartoons and facial hair. >> mankoff: so what's going on with that moustache? are you still entering that contest? >> katz: no, i retired from the circuit. this is all, like, a recreational moustache. okay. >> safer: and then, mankoff speed-reads the rough sketches. >> mankoff: this is just too awkward a drawing. >> safer: most get set rejected. >> safer: he's seen the idea in one form or another before. >> carolita johnson: you know how, whenever they open your bag at an airport... >> safer: carolita johnson has
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an airport security cartoon, with the t.s.a. guy saying: "you can pack this back up now." emily flake has a joke featuring both king kong and godzilla. >> emily flake: the two heavy hitters in the monster world. it's as simple as that. maybe it's just the day for facial hair, but joe dator seems to be a contender with a tarzan cartoon. >> mankoff: the apes are saying, "we found you and raised you as one of us. so we were just wondering at what point did you learn to shave?" >> dator: can i say i have researched this? there is no iteration of tarzan in literature, comic books or the movies, in which he has facial hair. it makes no sense. >> here's some of the stuff, around. this is just stage one-- thinning out the candidates to take to the magazine's editor. >> mankoff: this is a little too straightforward. >> safer: he's largely noncommittal, pleasant but blunt... >> mankoff: well, it won't look right in our magazine. >> safer: ...when a drawing simply isn't good enough.
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>> mankoff: we're not that impressed. okay, next. it doesn't have enough charm. >> safer: the arithmetic is simple-- hundreds of cartoons are submitted every week, by mail, email or in person. and every week, there's only room for 17. >> mankoff: we're picky. >> ben schwartz: we cry afterwards, just loads of tears. >> safer: we assembled a roundtable of veteran "new yorker" regulars to talk about rejection: ben schwartz, who gave up being a doctor to draw cartoons; david cipress, roz chast, and charlie hankin, the new kid on the block. >> david cipress: we all probably do probably 700 or 800 cartoons a year we hand in. and it's... we're lucky if we sell 30 cartoons a year, so that's a lot of rejection. >> roz chast: when i do a cartoon and i think, "this is... they're going to love this one. it's a classic." >> cipress: that's the one that gets rejected, right? >> chast: that... right away, that goes in the garbage. >> charlie hankin: i was addicted to the rejection before i got addicted to the, you know,
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actually making the sales. >> safer: addicted to the rejection? >> hankin: kind of. it makes you feel alive. >> mankoff: i know what it feels like. it feels a little bit like a punch in the stomach. it always feels bad. >> safer: mankoff should know. starting out, he submitted about 2,000 cartoons to the magazine before making a sale. this is one of his greatest hits-- "no, thursday's out. how about never? is never good for you?" he's lifted the line as the title for a memoir he's written, about his rise from the bronx to the big time. you write of your mother, molly: "she wasn't really an audience for my jokes; she was a target." what do you mean? that sounds cruel. >> mankoff: well, it's freudian. my mother was this sexy, flamboyant, annoying woman to me. and also i loved her. >> safer: like many an only child, he got smothered with love and pierced with sarcasm,
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fertile ground for his new yorky neuroses. >> mankoff: she thought i was lazy. i was lazy. >> safer: he talked back a lot, and developed a talent for one- liners and imitating jerry lewis. >> mankoff: you know, i would do the jerry lewis thing, "hey lady." and i did one of the things jerry lewis did. he had a mobile mouth, so i also had a mobile mouth. one of the first comic things that you do is imitate. >> david remnick: i have to say, when it comes down to it, he takes humor very seriously. >> safer: david remnick is editor of the "new yorker," the man who makes the final decision- the decider- on which cartoons get published and which don't. >> remnick: that's kind of nice. >> mankoff: i'd go with that one. >> remnick: just hang on. he is always trying to figure out what makes the little time bomb work, meaning the joke, meaning the cartoon. >> mankoff: you don't get it? >> remnick: no. he's very smart. the shell, the outward schtick is... >> safer: weird? >> remnick: comic.
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( laughter ) but there's a real mind at work there. >> safer: one of his chapter titles in his book is, "i'm not arguing, i'm jewish." ( laughter ) >> remnick: bob's jewish? i had no idea. that's sweet. ooh. that's a great drawing. >> safer: this time, the cartoons that make the cut include joe dator's beardless tarzan... >> mankoff: i like the tarzan one, it's crazier. >> remnick: crazier is better. >> safer: ...carolita johnson's t.s.a. problem... >> remnick: i think this one is better. >> safer: ...emily flake's king kong and godzilla-- "i'm telling you, manhattan is over"... >> mankoff: brooklyn is very big. >> remnick: in it goes. >> safer: ...and a cat and mouse joke by sam gross. "have you no shame?" don't get it? you're not alone. >> remnick: at least five times a week, somebody will come up to me and say, "i didn't get such and such a cartoon." >> safer: including me. >> remnick: well, and here is the deep secret-- including me, once in a while. i will pick a raft of cartoons, and then later, it'll come time to run this cartoon.
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and i'll look at it, and i won't quite get it anymore. because sometimes the grenade goes off in the moment and then it doesn't repeat down the line. >> safer: well, a friend of mine who's a "new yorker" writer maintains there's at least one cartoon in every issue in which you're not meant to get it. >> remnick: i'm going to keep that myth alive. ( laughter ) >> safer: one more thing about the mad mr. mankoff-- ping-pong. while "new yorker" readers are relaxing with the cartoons, mankoff pings and pongs, often with will shortz, the noted crossword puzzle editor. mankoff's moves are half wile e. coyote and half scarecrow from the wizard of oz. >> mankoff: ping-pong itself, there's something a little bit funny about it, in that so much aggression is spent on this tiny little ball. so there's a pillow fight aspect to it. >> safer: we end, as everything
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does, with the grim reaper. he's turned up in the "new yorker" countless times over the years. >> cipress: okay, so we have death... >> safer: in this recent david cipress cartoon, the reaper's latest acquisition is saying: "thank goodness you're here. i can't accomplish anything unless i have a deadline." >> mankoff: honestly, if it wasn't for death, i don't think there'd be any humor. ( laughs ) >> safer: bob mankoff believes humor is really our way of coping with anxiety-- anxiety about death, about work, relationships, the state of the world, the state of your health. so here's a prescription from the cartoon doctor. >> mankoff: illness and death-- primary sources of anxiety. one way of dealing with anxiety... >> safer: ...is to laugh at it. >> mankoff: ...is to laugh at it. grim reaper's going to get the last laugh. until then, it's our turn. ( laughs )
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