his recent trip to the holy land and all the wonderful things that happy specially with regard to the enter religious dialogue. we have two people, two men from san francisco, one a priest at saint brendan's parish, father theo, and derek gaskin who will mention not only does he work for the archdiocese of san francisco but involved with the interfaith council and we are going to talk about the relationship that we are all trying to make stronger, the relationship between those of different faiths, all different faiths, and to focus on that

which we have in common and to do practical things and so derek is going to mention his recent experience being part of facilitating a gathering for disaster preparation, preparedness. so we will mention that, and my name is chris likeert, i work in the archdiocese of san francisco in department of communications doing radio production, we have the archbishop's radio show every friday on immaculate heart radio and the archbishop shares scripture reflections and we have guests. our website is sf archdiocese.org. so pope francis' trip to the holy land a powerful event, you may have seen images and or full length liturgies and masses but very powerful in the images alone, you may have seen things from when he was making

the spontaneous visit to the wall in bethlehem and all of these other images you may have seen and they are continuing to show up in the news each and every day. he is truly a reconciler and it is a very serious matter, it's not something that is a very light hearted matter. we are going to be talking today about the huge impact of his visit, things like, for example, he invited the peres and abbas come to the vatican probably this fall, that is a huge thing to come to pray for peace, significant thing. also we want to mention that the pope met with the orthodoxed leader. for those of you who are keeping score, there are many different denominations but the catholic church having received

its commission through jesus christ, through st. peter the pope continued on this way for over 1000 years, and at one point there was a point where there was what they call the great 60 skism. the important thing is there are people like pope francis and patriarch bartholomew who are working to bring us back forgot. pope francis said the two orthodox and catholic churches are two lungs and we need to breathe together, two wings. so the holy father met with the orthodoxed leader bar that will my, the church -- bartholomew where the three churches come together, we've got judaism, the wall where people go, make pilgrimage to pray and then the dome of the rock, the mosque

that's there and the tomb, the empty tomb. so there were a lot of beautiful things that were there at the holy land events, prayers and things that were significant, not just in their imagery but reality so it's remnant sanity of our -- rim reminiscent -- in belmont, california for the same such meeting here in san francisco archdiocese. they too are working together to bring the church together, the focus on that which we have in common and encourage that at the salutations of the holly cross. just a few days ago pope francis himself met with the jewish and muslim leaders on monday, may 26th as we were recording this and the focus was on abraham, the father in faith and that which brings us together. in a minute we are going to focus on some of the

applications of all of this, where is this really happening in san francisco and the bay area, but also just on a more geographically national or international level in nigeria so we will have father theo, franchise who nigeria come and share with us his experience as a young man growing up of the muslim christian dialogue, so we will stay right there with us, you're going to want to see and meet father theo and he will be with us when we come back here on mosaic.

welcome back to mosaic, my name is chris likeert and i'm here with my new friend, father theo wane who is a pastor at -- welcome, father. >> thank you. >> i can't wait to start talking about your upbringing

in nigeria and all of the applications to what we are talking about here. we have been talking about the holy father visiting the holy land and the jewish muslim dialogue, the christian muslim dialogue, all of the important faiths and especially the focus of peace, and, you know, we mentioned that we have been seeing a lot of images, positive images of the holy father and, you know, all kinds of recognize sill torre -- reconcilatory images, blasts, bombings and the negative impacts of animosity and hate and stuff. speaking of which, you know, let's get right into, before father talking about your upbringing in nigeria, the situation with the girls who -- that were stolen, were taken

away, the 300 girls. describe just how that would impact -- i know it would be easy for you to describe how that would impact a family in the community and what's happening there and just describe the feelings of the catholics that are there in the midst of all of this. >> yeah thank you very much. it's a very bad situation and a lot of people are really angry, not just say they are catholics but christians in israel are feeling a bit prosecuted now because they don't have the freedom that is professed by the constitution of nigerian. >> the christians themselves are feeling persecuted. be like violence upon violence, you know, so we are trying to make good of a bad situation

but almost say that the abduction of the over 200 young girls, it's intolerable. >> yeah. >> this has made a lot of people in the international community to voice out and speak against it. >> the international community is rising up, people are trying to get involved seriously and you know, this is terrible. it's worse than before but you actually were describing to me that you experienced from your home one of the percussive effects of a bomb. tell us a little bit about that. >> yes. growing up in nigeria from my home and i moved to ab joba -- abu jaba. my home is a bit calm. then you have a lot of muslims in abujaba, it's like living

with someone you don't trust. i remember in 2012, sent me on a meeting, former prime minister of britain, tony blair. >> cardinal john sent you for a meeting. >> and somehow we had a little islam and other religions and everybody was thinking about peace, peace, and i got up and told them that it is a problem that as a catholic i am fundamental about my faith, and i don't trust muslim, no matter boko haram is islam. i do not trust them enough. there's no trust, no point of living together. >> that's the whole issue, the atmosphere of distrust. >> yeah.

>> and such a huge challenge for anyone to think about trying to reach out. now, as a christian, our role is to follow jesus, who spoke no words, but how do you build trust in a situation like that? >> over the years we ask christian leaders have been trying to bring in the gospel text that -- if you're struck on the left cheek, you should turn the right one, be able to pacify, not to go into reappraisal. >> turn the other cheek. >> accept us willingly. we are asking us for how long. that is the problem. we have been able to do that before how long? so the government needs to dig desis -- takes decisive steps in making sure this -- >> the government, the church communities, there's so much

here, father, the fact you're here, wearing the collar means you have given your whole life for this cause, you're speaking with your whole life. >> yes. >> we could talk for hours. we can't. it's such a short show so, father theo, if you want to see father theo, you would probably have to go to saint brendon's in san francisco. take a short break and have you back in a little bit to recap. >> thank you, chris. >> thank you, father. god bless.

welcome back to mosaic. i'm here with derek liken. derek, welcome. >> thank you, chris, honor and a privilege to be here. >> good to have you here. what we have been talking in general about enter religious

dialogue and doing things that actually build up the peace, be proactive and focus on the things that we have in common. here we are in san francisco and one of the things we have in common and people always mention from other states, how is the earthquake situation there? we are always thinking about the big one, we celebrate it and really, in a sense it's a little bit easier, isn't it for disaster preparedness that we live in san francisco. >> absolutely. >> but could that actually lull people to sleep? i don't know. >> i think sometimes people have a tendency to get comfortable because we know versus a situation such as my family experienced in new orleans august 28th, 2005, hurricane katrinarita. that's a differently scenario, you can see, you can be advised, you know when it's coming, versus an earthquake you don't know when it's coming to people have a tendency to be

slightly disconnected because they don't know when it's going to happen. it's always a matter when it's going to happen not if it's going to happen. >> hence, your job is to continue to make people aware, hey, better to be prepared, right, than to be inside the archdiocese, one peter york way and connecting with all of the parishes even in that neighborhood. but let's talk about the interfaith council. can you describe that organization and especially the purpose the organization had when they had their conference not too long ago that you were a part of. >> interfaith council is a great organization. we, the archdiocese, support the things that they do, i think it's very important to bring a lot of faith based organizations together for common cause so it's not a matter of different practices as it relates to religion but it's a matter of how do we come together for a common purpose and goal. you know, that's led by michael

pappas, good guy. i was introduced him by george, great guy. and i thought it was a great opportunity for me to not only display my commitment and obligations to the community, not only our arch dice but the -- archdiocese but the community and abroad which includes different faith based organizations. i thought that was a fantastic organizational marriage. >> yeah. the event that just happened that you were participating in, the disaster preparedness event, tell us about that and the goals. >> the purpose was to actually come together and we had numerous meetings in regards to preparation and planning to figure out how we can actually bring not just the faith based organizations but other organizations out there that actually have or could contribute resources for communities and people, period, in the case of a disaster or emergency. >> okay. i'm sorry. there's so much -- we have such a short amount of time. what would you say to folks

right now, they are thinking, yeah, i probably should prepare, especially with regard to their relationship with their church or place of worship? what are things they could do today? >> you have to have a plan, whether it's family plan and we promote that a lot, you know, it's different when you're in the work environment in the workplace, you know, we have a plan in the workplace but then does this conversation carry over to the home, you know. >> right. >> so it's very important to have a plan. the other thing it's very important also to enforce your plan and practice your plan. >> yeah, yeah. >> a drill. >> exactly. so not just a drill in a high- rise or a business type place but have a drill at home. you have family, you have kids, you know, you have grandmother or the dogs, the pets. >> what's the plan if something happens, you know? >> the plan is to find us actually, one, where is your resources, in our case we have numerous parishes and schools

who are extremely committed to extending our arms to say come in, community, we can help. >> yeah. >> and this is how we can help. so it's very important for people to really understand their surroundings in their community and what resource points they actually have that they can go to in case of an emergency, very important. >> right. what would you recommend. we've got 30 seconds, people do. i would say stay on the proactive slide, communion, research, find out what organizations out there such as red cross, san francisco department of management, emergency management, sf card, san francisco community agency emergency response teams, you have; isn't nert, search, so many different entities that can -- >> i took a training. really important thing for everybody. derek gaskin, thank you so much for being here, thank you for doing what you're doing. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. see you in the next segment.

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my name is chris likert. welcome back to mosaic. i'm here with my two guests, derek gaskin and father theo from saint brendon. we're talking about the interfaith dialogue, derek we were talking to you about the interfaith council in san francisco. father, you shared a little bit about your upbringing in nigeria and the challenge of trying to live and trying to build a trust between the two faiths, you know, from the muslim and catholic perspective actually. father, share with us any other insight, any other thought you

would like to share with us now. >> thank you, chris. looking at it, it was a pilgrimage, a lot of complications, we can draw from the nigerian situation, you see the holy father, one visit with his friend, two friends, one a jewish rabbi, ache ham -- abraham scoz and a muslim friend, it was saying they have got to live in peace in nigerian -- >> just a minute. 50 years ago paul vi, the first meeting of the muslims. you're talking about the most recent week, the picture of the holy father with the imam. >> yes and also the rabbi. >> yes. >> we can draw from that. the muslims and the christians

cannot just tolerate one another, they can live side by side as friends. what's tough for us to remember is one another, come through meaningful dialogues. >> if the pope can give a hug to the imam, what are we doing saying i can't, what an example, beautiful, they can live side by side as friends. >> as friends. >> that's the word. >> yes. >> and that is not only internationally but that's even right here in the city, san francisco. >> sure, sure,. >> derek, share with us something else you'd like to share. >> well, i always believe, chris, and once again thank you for having me, that, you know, god has blessed me with specific skill set and the talents and how dare i actually keep those to myself so i think it's very important for everybody to, you know, find that person within you to actually be able to step up to the plate and help, you know, when and in the time of need.

>> okay. >> so i haven't forgot what my grandmother instilled in me and that was very simple is you always contribute to man kind and you do everything you can to help human beings, period, no matter what and i think the most important thing regardless of faith or whatever is to actually do just that, very, very, very important. >> that's wonderful. okay. the folks listening here on sunday morning on mosaic, they've got a full day ready right there really early or maybe they are up -- they are still up from the night before. what kind of positive things can they do, practical things? >> well, i mean, dialogue, for me dialogue is you speak and listen and when i speak, you listen, if we learn to listen to one another, then we will bridge a -- build a bridge for friendship. >> listen from the heart. >> and in the disaster preparedness community, trust, collaborate, partnership that brings a lot of resources to

the forefront, it also actually brings a lot of new ideas and a lot of potential goals that everybody can actually accomplish and that's what's important. >> thank you. we've got a few minutes left, just want to pause and go all the way back. you mentioned, derek, your grandmother. talk about her influence on your faith and just getting involved. >> my grandmother was the one who instilled the fear of god in me. she introduced me to no matter what happens in your life, grandson, you always put god first and you allow him to direct you, and the way you do that is you have to shut down you, open your ears, close your mouth and watch. so that was a very, very good seed planted in my life. i hold that very dear to my heart because my grandmother is very dear to my heart so i have instilled that in my son as well, who is in college and he has a wonderful life ahead of him. >> gift he received.

father theo, what -- >> came directly from my dad because my dad taught me at an early age that if you have god, you have everything. every sunday, even when you got sick, there was a dozen reasons you went to church. it is god who heals. so go to church and be healed. so we went to church every day and he said go to confessions every saturday. >> great. >> gradually we embraced the faith and that was the -- at the age of 5 i told him i want to be a priest, he told me, my son, my i blessing. >> beautiful. at the age of 5 you already felt that call. >> fourth generation catholic because my dad was also catholic and he passed on the faith to me. my family not really religious. >> what a great heritage both of you. thank you for sharing and thank you for your practical insight.

this has been mosaic, my name is chris lifeert and my guests have been derek gaskin and father theo from saint benedict's. e-mail studio at sf archdiocese.org. i'm chris likert. for all of us, we thank you for joining us. have a great day. ,,

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