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>> schieffer: i'm bob schieffer today on "face the nation." isis strikes again. late yesterday isis released another execution video, this time the available victim was 44-year-old british aide worker david haines latest from london where david cameron says -- >> we'll hunt down those responsible and bring them to justice no matter how long it takes bob we'll talk to white house chief of staff, denis mcdonough, secretary of state. john kerry and head of homeland security mike mccaul. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will be along to talk about her new book "off the sidelines" and she has lot to say about the crisis in the nfl. finally ken burns and his team will be here to preview the new pbs series "the roosevelts" an intimate history.
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60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again this news from overnight is causing repulsion around the world as you might expect. we want to go first to cbs news correspondent charlie d'agata at the british parliament. >> good morning, bob, this morning british prime minister called emergency meeting to discuss the crisis, afterward he praised aid worker david haines calling him a british hero said that the british government would not back down in its fight against isis. >> we are a peaceful people. we do not seek out confrontation. but we need to understand we cannot ignore this threat to our security and that of our allies. there is no option of keeping our heads down that would make us safe. the problem would merely get worse as it has done over recent months not just for us but for europe and for the world.
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we cannot just walk on by if we are to keep this country safe. we have to confront this men as. step by step we must drive back, dismantle and ultimately destroy isil and what it stands for. we will do so in a calm, deliberate way but with an eye on determination. >> the crisis isn't over yet, the second british aide worker that was shown at the end of that isis video was threat that he, too, would meet the same fate unless the british government would stop the support of the u.s. military in the region. >> thank you very much. joining us now here in washington, white house chief of staff denis d.n.a. donna, thank you soap much for finding time to talk us to. >> i'm happy to be here. >> schieffer: does this change anything? >> you know, we were obviously painfully aware of their barbarity and their
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nefariousness even before this video but this obviously underscores it yet again. a development worker, aide worker after two journal cyst, all people who had only the search for truth. this is what isil has done. really showed their true colors. >> schieffer: what was the president's reaction? >> you saw what the president said last night which he obviously condemned this in the strongest possible terms. but also underscored our resolve to stand firm shoulder to shoulder with the united kingdom but also with this coalition to include muslim country from the region to take this fight to isil to degrade and ultimately destroy them. >> schieffer: can we expect a strong reaction soon? >> you can expect a continued, strong, steady reaction against this threat so that we degrade it and ultimately destroy it. but you can also expect strong
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international coalition to include our muslim friends from the region and obviously we have a very important vote coming this week in congress. on the title 10 program that will allow us to train and quip syrian opposition that is on the ground today fighting isil that is exactly what we want to do so that we can put syrian boots on the ground to take this fight to isil have not to rely on ours or nobody else's. ultimately the president made denixon that we're going to provide our unique capability in airstrikes in intelligence and training and be up to the syrians on that side of the border to finish the job. >> schieffer: henry kissinger was on this broadcast last week he said that had he been there, he would have recommended a very strong reaction for 72 hours and then step back and say, what is our long term strategy. do you feel that we have gotten these people's attention here? >> there's no question we have their attention. let me remind you why president
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chose the path he chose. the reason iraqi security forces melted away in the face of the isil threats in places like mosul is because long time erosion of politics in that country where prime minister focused on his ethnicity and his sect rather than the whole country. we thought it was very important toe get him out of that job, get new prime minister and multi-ethnic government shaped and ready to go. that's step one in process that will degrade and ultimately destroy isil. >> seeing this video yesterday leads me to believe that if we ever had any doubt about these people posing a threat to the united states, these videos would remove that. are they a threat to our national security? >> there's no question that they are a threat to our national security. what we have said is that we are not aware of any credible threats to the homeland right now. but we are concerned about two
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things -- three things in particular. fact that they now control territory. and that gives them place to plot and plan. now getting not only new fighters but increased money and followers and adherence. third perhaps most importantly we're worried about the number of foreign fighters that are going in to syria to fight. some of them may then become even more extreme and want to return to their home country, be that in europe or even in the united states, god forbid, to carry out their terrible acts. we'll make sure that does not happen. by sharing information with our partners, keeping the pressure on our partners to not allow people in and out of syria and to make sure that as president will do later this month up in the united nations that we have the tools to stop that kind of travel. >> schieffer: mr. mcdonough, thank you, we'll let you get back to work. >> i appreciate the opportunity. >> schieffer: we spoke with secretary of state john kerry yesterday in cairo before this
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latest news broke, here is part of what he said. mr. secretary, thank you so much, can i clear up one thing first. this week you went to some lengths to say you wouldn't call this a war it been yet at the pentagon and at the state department even they were saying we are at war with isis. are we at war? >> well, bob, i think frankly kind of tortured debate going on about terminology. what i'm focused on obviously is getting done what we need to get done to isil. but if people need find the place to land in terms of what we did in iraq, originally this is not a war, this is not combat troops on the ground. it's not hundreds of thousands of people, it's not that kind of mobilization. but in terms of al qaeda, which we have used the word war with, yeah. war with al qaeda and same context if you want to use it,
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yes. we're at war with isil in that sense. but i think it's a waste of time to focus on that frankly let's consider what we have to do to degrade and defeat isil that's what i'm frankly much more focused on. >> schieffer: mr. secretary, let me ask you about your trip. the foreign minister is being quoted here saying that syria has no problems with american airstrikes going after isis targets in syria. as long as they are coordinated. he said he was ready toe talk. will we be coordinating this campaign with syria? >> no, we're not going to coordinate with it syria. we will certainly want to deconflict make certain that they're not about to do something that they might regret even more seriously. but we're not going to coordinate, it's not a cooperative effort. we are going to do what they haven't done, what they had plenty of opportunity to do
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which to take on isil to degrade it and eliminate as a threat. and we will do that with respect to this trip, i've been extremely encouraged to hear from all of the people that hive been meeting with about their readiness and willingness to participate. i can tell you right here and now that we have countries in this region, countries outside of this region. in addition to the united states all of whom are prepared to engage in military assistance, in actual strikes that that is what it requires. we also have a growing number of people who are prepared to do all the other things. people should not think about this, this effort just in terms of strikes. in fact as some pointed out, that alone is not going to resolve this challenge. >> well, mr. secretary, you've gotten any specific commitments
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for military help? for example, have you found anybody that is willing to put troops on the ground in to this fight? >> we're not looking to put troops on the ground. there are some who have offered to do so. but we are not looking for that at this moment anyway. the answer is, yes, there are some that have said that. there are some that are clearly prepared to take action in the area alongside the united states. and to do airstrikes if that's what they're called on to do. what we're doing right now, bobs putting together the whole package. and it's not appropriate to start announcing, will this country do this, do that. >> schieffer: let me ask you this, going back to what you said, you said you're not looking for troops on the ground, do you really think you can destroy isil without -- without troops on the ground? how does that work? >> bob, there are troops on the ground that don't belong to us
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they're called syrian. the syrian opposition is on the ground. one of the regrettable things is, it has been fighting isil by itself over the course of the last couple of years. and it's one of the reasons that they have had difficult battle. now with the air support and other effort from other countries, they will be augmented in their capacity. one of the things the president put in plan is the effort to increase the training, increase the equipping, advising to the syrian opposition and i can't tell you whether some of the country and neighborhood will or won't decide to put some people in there. we know the united states is not going to do that. but as i say, this is a strategy coming together as the coalition comes together and countries declare what they're prepared to do. but i want it to be absolutely clear out of this discussion we're having, that every single
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aspect of the president's strategy and what is needed to be done in order to accomplish our goal has been offered by one country or multiple countries and all bases are covered. >> schieffer: mr. secretary. we thank you soap much for finding time to talk with us this morning. >> delighted to be with you. thank you very much, bob. >> schieffer: joining us now is the chairman of the house homeland security committee texas congressman michael mccaul. the secretary of state says we're not looking for ground troops. what does that mean? >> i think that's unwise. i do agree with the strategy that we want the sunni moderates, the arabs to feet the sunni extremists, i don't think we want to put our conventional combat troops. we will need advisors to guide airstrikes. having said that just two days ago said he is ready today to
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built his troops in to syria to fight isis. i don't know why we wouldn't consider that option of all the arab nations. met with egypt they have very strong military that we can try to advance to put them in that area. >> schieffer: there are people traveling with the secretary this morning saying that we also have commitments from some arab countries to furnish aircraft to join in the airstrikes. do you know anything about that? >> i do. i know uae and other countries have stepped up to the plate. i think that is a positive sign. i think fact general allen is leading this international coalition who is the commander, he is the expert to do this. i think it is positive. again we want sunni moderates to fight the sunni extremists here. i think that is key. after the beheadings once again reminder how brutal and barbarian they are and with all the mixed messages coming out of the white house about we don't
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have strategy, we're managing this conflict, finally saying they're going to destroy them it's important clear signal, but also to our allies in the region that we will destroy and defeat the isis wherever they exist, wherever they exist that is very important by any means necessary. >> schieffer: you know, your colleague, republican senator lindsey graham showed extreme frustration this morning, here is just a bit of what he said. >> there's no way in hell you can form an army on the ground to go in to syria to destroy isil without a substantial american component. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> schieffer: should there be more of sense of urgency about meeting this threat? we haven't had any airstrikes seems like a week. >> there's been no -- this threat has been out there for over a year. finally the white house started to pay attention to it after the
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beheading, after the american people started to rally behind this. finally comes out with an address to the nation. but now it's catch up time trying to get a coalition together. getting a strategy together. the bottom line is isis does not fit in this president's narrative. his narrative i am the president to end these wars. now looks at his legacy he can't get his head wrapped around the idea of what isis is and how to defeat it and what i am meant urge and threat that it is. now american people are resolved to say on isis immediately and urgently. >> schieffer: would you like to see congress vote to authorize these airstrikes, to go to the world as say, we're united about this. >> i think it is important and president has said he's coming to congress for support. the american people need to weigh in with their short. i do think we're going to vet on limited authorization with
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respect to training and vetting of these moderate syrian forces, it's important for congress to authorize these airstrikes particularly in the syria. general came out said you can't win this unless you go in to syria. he was reined in quickly. he was right. we can't cut the head of the snake off unless we to go where it is. the head of the snake is in syria. >> schieffer: congressman, thank you so much for joining us. we'll be back with new york senator kirsten gillibrand. when change is in the air you see things in a whole new way. it's in this spirit that ing u.s. is becoming a new kind of company. one that helps you think differently about what's ahead, and what's possible when you get things organized.
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military actions, he's going to do that. certain strategies i don't support, i don't think arming the rebels in this instance is necessarily going to be productive. we spent years trading iraqi forces, police forces, iraqi military forces and isil was able to cut through that like butter. there are things that he is asking our support for that i do support. i do think multi-lateral engage system wise. it has to be participation by sunnis, muslims, arab all across middle east. if you continues form coalition to deal with this serious terrorist threat that is the right approach. >> schieffer: let me talk on something else. you were one of 16 senators who have called on roger goodell to adopt a zero tolerance policy on domestic violence in the national football league. >> i think the way the nfl handled this was awful. it was outrageous. they had all the facts they needed. they had a player who admitted to beating his wife, had video
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of him dragging her out of an elevator, something left to determine. that player should have been fired immediately. we are now looking to enforce a zero tolerance policy. the broader issue, bobs this institutional support. this chronic institutional support whether it's nfl, whether it's the u.s. military, whether it's college campus, institution gathers and surrounds their star players, their golden boy, whomever it may be without any regard for the victim and survivors. without any regard for women. as i talk about in my book this larger issue, are women being valued by institutions and are they being listened to. >> schieffer: do you think, have you come to conclusion yet about whether you think roger goodell ought to just step down? >> well, initially i want him to leave to create and enforce zero tolerance policy but given recent debatef he lied to the american people then he has to step down. because he won't have the force
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of authority to change how they address these issues. >> schieffer: let's talk about this in a broader sense because this is what you talk about in your book. what's the problem here? >> well, the reason why i wrote this book is because i am creating a call to action, to be heard on issues that they find important. the things they deeply compare about. and i purposely include lots of details about my life, about my mentors, my mother being one of the three women in law school class, my grandma who got whole generation of women to care about politics. i cite those examples i want to use them as way to bring in readers to understand that their voices matter. the way they see the world may be different if they're not being heard whether it's halls of congress or pta meeting outcomes won't be as strong. if they do speak up and are heard they can make things
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better. >> schieffer: the problems at the nfl is having, we also know there are these kinds of things going on in some of the other leaguess it time for congress to take some action, look in to any of this? >> well, if the nfl doesn't police themselves then we will be looking more in to it. i wouldn't be surprised if we are hearing, for regular women, women watching your show, we should be heard on these issues that's the point of my book. >> schieffer: i was stunned as some of the revelations in your book because i've been covering washington and congress and senate for a long, long time. in this chapter about your struggle with your weight and some of the comments from some of your male colleagues about your weight. >> it's incredible. >> schieffer: i was stunned. >> i have to say for woman reading the book, not only going to see herself in these stories but it tells her that she's not alone. i added the story when i was a young lawyer where i worked hard on case on day we're celebrating
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years and months of hard work my boss talks more about migrate new hair cut how i look than all i -- that was devastating. i felt so unappreciated and i felt valueless. i want that young reader to say, that happened to me. i want to say, you know what, i'm going to push on not only am i going to make partner but change how the company does business. i want women to feel empowered to have that sense that they're not alone. >> schieffer: senator gillibrand always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> schieffer: we'll be back in one minute. blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® is now available in flextouch® - the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®,
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he was an aide worker who went to syria to help war victims. what kind of people kill the innocent in the hope of impressing their men enemies. these kind of people. barbarians, psychopaths and who are they trying to impress? the videos title leaves no doubt it says, a message to the allies of america. narrator says british eighth worker is being executed not for anything he did but because british prime ministers can't find the courage to say no to the americans. there are still those who say all this has nothing to do with america, that isis does not really pose a threat to us. sadly isis does not seem to see it that way and these videos make it clear. yes, america is of war but when fires break out we fight them before they spread. not when it is convenient. we have no choice now.
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whatever it takes and as the president said, however long it takes. this evil must be eradicated, these forces must be destroyed.
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bob some of our stations are leaving us now for most of you we'll be right back with lot more "face the nation." ken burns and his team are here to preview the new pbs series "the roosevelts" an intimate history stay tune.
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[captioning made possible by cbs sports. a division of cbs roadcasting, inc.] james: welcome to "the nfl today." obviously some pretty difficult stories around the league these last few days, a lot of off the field issues have dominated the league's news cycle between the ray rice situation and adrian peterson's indictment and arrest over the weekend.