and good morning. and welcome to mosaic. i'm rabbi eric weiss and honored to be here this morning. there will be two segments. in the last two segments we'll have the rabbi talk about the cyber cafe' at his synagoge but history matters. faith traditions across the country come to understand how history impacts the present andn't ways it is important to weave that history into the relationship it has into all its faith and add hearings the here is esther statler, the chair of the community, it means holocaust memorial day

and also morgan blum the director of education of the holocaust center at jewish family and services. and welcome esther and morgan. >> thank you. >> we want to just jump in and talk about what it is that the holocaust in terms of its historical occurrence has had as an impact today on subsequent generations of those who were can we say victimized by the holocaust. esther, what is the committee? >> well, each year we have a holocaust remembrance memorial day. it is the same day that coincides nationally with holocaust remembrance day and the committee is made up of holocaust survivors and of children of holocaust survivors along with representatives from jewish agencies. >> when we talk about children,

is that where we get the terminology of say second generation holocaust survivors refers to the children of someone who is a survivor of the holocaust or a refugee of the holocaust? >> yes. yes. in the bay area, we have a group called generation to generation, children of holocaust survivors. even though we're no longer children, we're still the children of the holocaust survivors. >> what was generation to generation as a program? >> generation to generation formed in the late '70s and was incorp traited as a nonprofit in 1981 its mission was to offer psychological support to the issues surrounding being a child of holocaust survivors. >> wonderful. morgan, you're director of education of the holocaust center. you serve the entirety of the bay area and beyond? >> we do.

we serve schools and communities throughout northern california. we work in partnership with the museum of tolerance and we meet the needs of southern california as well. >> it is a big question, but as director of education, this particular experience of history, what does that mean? what does the work that you do? >> it is a good question. it changes everyday. so the work that we do supports students, both within the four walls of the classroom. we have an active speaker's bureau of 40 holocaust survivors that speak at the schools and we have schools come to us at our center and the survivors will share their story. we work one on one with teachers to try to meet the needs of teaching holocaust in the classroom. it is part of california state standards that in tenth grade if you teach in a public school, you must cover the holocaust for history. teachers don't have resources

and have limited professional development opportunities to teach this so we provide them with resources. we either do one on one training or group training in one on one for that. >> that is wonderful. the bay area where there is so much sensitivity and diversity of a culture's historic experience and the impact it has on the present, what are some of the ways in which you see this issue both in the particular of the jewish community and the broader come my ty as well? >> absolutely. we estimate about 80% of the students we serve are not from a jewish background and we look at issues that are going on today for students, whether it's be immigration being a refugee family, challenges with identity, if your parents come from another country and speak another language, to you identify as an american or more with your family's heritage.

a lot of these issues today are challenged with are things that are very prevalent in the stories of the holocaust and how the survivors reset led in the united states or wherever they went to, so we try to develop curriculum that faces some of these challenging fully on campus as well as trying to teach lessons of understands, so for example our annual day of learning which is a conference this year, it was on sunday march 23rd at gal lay low high school. we had 750 students and teachers from 106 different schools join us and 18 simultaneous workshops going on. they were not just on the stories of the holocaust where we pulled issues of diary and art but the lessons from the romanian genocide, from rwanda, from the sudan today. we are trying to look at the

lessons of the holocaust and connect them to history and issues and challenges we deal with today. >> that would have been lovely for the second generation to have had something like that as we were growing up, because, of course, we were born of families that were not american. >> of course. >> but not only that, but they had you know the extra burden of having survived this horrendous, horrendous atrocit in life. >> esther morgan, we're going to fake a quick break and we'll be back on mosaic.

good morning. welcome back to mosaic. i'm rabbi eric weiss and your

most. we are talking about issues of the holocaust. >> welcome back esther and morgan. >> thank you. >> before we went to break, mojgan was talking, esther, about the ways the holocaust is segwayed into other elements of history and unfortunately human genocide. i wonder on a more personal level of generation to generation you also faced these issues of what it means to make application to the experience, move the experience to the next generation. what is that all about? >> the second generation, the reason that we even created this organization was because we are trying to come to terms

with how the hollow holocaust impacted us. we were raised by these people who had this experience and there was a common phenomena that we discovered when we got together that was part of the experience of growing up of a child of a holocaust survive vor and interestingly enough, there are an in nord nance amount of survivors' children that are psycho analysts. >> is that an idcation of the power, the experience has had on developing a self reflective capacity and empathy and wanting to on a simple, but not simple minded human scale to make the world better?

>> yes. wanting to heal, wanting to heal psychic pain and psychological issues. >> it is interesting. i find i work closely with the third generation and we dray ated a group on 3gsf and you can find us on facebook. they connect in a very different way. there is a fascination with the history, with doing community service, with relating to reconciliation, with traveling to these former sites. >> yes. i find that, too. you know, it is the difference of anyone growing up in a household as opposed to being a grand child of. >> interesting. morgan, you have a very special book. >> i do, yes. >> it is a diary. >> yes. >> of a woman whose name is rif ca lip originally polish. >> exactly. >> tell us what this diary is. you're seeing it on our screen and let us know where people

can get the diary and how it was that it has come to be available. >> absolutely. for those who wish to have a copy, you can find it on amazon and go to jfcs.org for a short film about the story. >> the diary is very unique. i have been a student and i haven't come across a primary resource like this. it is this that we're relying on as we look at the future of holocaust education in the post survivor era because rif ca and other survivors caught not only the history and knacks but the emotions and what is unique about rif ca, she was a 14-year- old girl in the get toe and had a strong connection to her faith which continued and is illustrated in her diary. she never doubted her faith in god. she came from a jewish family and it is written in polish.

how it came to our center is something spectacular. we were con tacked almost eight years ago by the grand daughter of a russian doctor and this russian doctor was part of the liberating forces of aus switch. it was taken by the russian doctor found in the rooms of the cream ma tore yum. he realized it was precious but didn't speak polish. wrapped it up and stayed with her belongings for over 60 years. a she passed away, her granddaughter received her belongings and found this few ry and realize the it was something precious and came to meet with our are ky vist. we digitally preserved it and she identified herself, rif ca. and we were able to track down the story of what happened to

rif ca. we imagine she was demoted and arrived and separated from her belongings and people. she was not killed at that time. she was september to christian stat which was a labor camp and then on a death march. it was there that she was still alive upon libration. we know the story, because her cousin survived. the trace of rif ca in a dp camp in germany and the story is amazing. i encourage people to read for themselves. >> thank you so much. believe it or not we have come to the end of our time together so it is a comma in the conversation to encourage other folks to get more to know about the holocaust and the experience of it and to foe to amazon to purchase the diary. thank you so much esther and

morgan. we'll return in just a moment to mosaic and meet rabbi mark mow lom med.

%c1 good morning and welcome back to mosaic. if you're watching our first two segments we want to remind you of the contact information for the holocaust center at jewish family and children services of san francisco. as well as the contact information for generation to generation. good morning. i'm rabbi eric weiss. we looked back at the hollow

cast as appoint of history and as away it informs us and now with rabbi mark melamed in san francisco to talk about the future. you have a wonderful experiment you're about to start in really basically social gathering and using technology. let's jump in and ask you what it is. >> sure. we're starting a new testing called sunrise, sunset. we call it that mostly because of the name, the emotions you evoke from the movie and we're on sunset. my hope with the projects is to build community one cup at a time. the sub text is coffee, culture and community. it brings together my three favorite cs and it is a gathering place. it has been a place of worship, study and gathering and i want to try this new experience to have culture literally one cup

at a time. >> some people would say the outer parkside district of san francisco has its own really rich, wonderful history and like all synagoge, also looks toward the future. i am wondering, how was it that you came to this particular idea and what do you hope for for the congregation and all of us in the community? >> the community has anas nateing history and it was those who survived nazi germany and went through shanghai, china and came to san francisco. the building has gone through several phases. i hope this will be a pivot of the times. i spoke to people jewish, not jewish and most say rabbi, i am not religious but i love the culture so i hope this is a place we can gather around culture and the way you'll see that and the way the cafe' will

be expressed, on a rotating basis we'll have work from local artists and we'll have different program matic elements, either music or we have a science and magic opportunity coming up. it will start off on a friday night, the last friday night in may and then in june on the second saturdays of the month and getting together for culture and relaxing and doing the things we love to do bess. >> if somebody comes to one of these events, what would they do? what is the atmosphere? >> sure. so the idea it is an informal and relaxed gathering of being together. i can wack you through the doors how i imagine it. there will be a nice banner out front, the door is open and on the screen is sunrise, sunset, not something to watch, but to walk through and encounter that time period and emotions the movie brings up and as you walk

through to the social wall, you'll be brought to contemporary san francisco and experience some jewish culture through either the art and music. it will be a very informal gathering. we'll have games on the tables and coffee will be there to drink from. we'll have as part of the community builder trying to do some baking so the coffee and baking. you can't have coffee without a little nosh and the sweet smells and laid back and relaxed atmosphere will encourage people to come back hopefully on a monthly basis. one of the ideas is to create a car to help us make a minion. you need ten jewish folks to have a car rum for prayer and my idea is to take some of the ideas from religion and transfer them into culture ral. so if you have a card help us make minion and you'll get a

card that you'll get one free that will encourage you to come back for another visit. >> we'll take a break but before we do, you're at the corner of tara vel and 46th avenue which is i believe right on the el tara vel community line. >> it turns right there. >> we'll take a quick break and then return to the conversation with rabbi mark melamed. ,,

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learn more at autismspeaks.org/signs. welcome back to mosaic. we're in the middle of a wonderful conversation about a project with rabbi mark melamed. welcome back, mark. >> thank you. the cafe' is called sunrise, sunset referenced to

the scene in the song from the movie fidler on the roof. >> right. >> and so you were talking about how basically it is a gathering for the entire community to come and hang out and getting to know each other with the arts. >> yes. we're starting with the core of the community that will be helpers and using the word maven so an expert in the area. some are baking mavens. some are programming mavens and they will help build a team for the cafe'. it is open to anyone and we're hoping to build an extra spot in the sunset three blocks from ocean beach where people may come by once in awhile for coffee and an opportunity to be together. we have two opening dates roo it now. we're not going monday through

friday but the first night is monday may 30th 7:30 to 9:30. when fred plays violin it makes me cry, it is so beautiful. he will play sha bott melodies. >> we'll have the musician doing a blues version of some jewish music so the music will always be flowing as well as the coffee. >> it seems in san francisco when we look at social media experiments if i can put this in that framework, it is a venue for artists to have their art exposend and to play around with it, so if an artist wants to experiment with what they have got going and wants to come to sunrise, sunset, can they and how do they contact you to get themselves to the calendar? >> great question. this is a great thing building from the ground up. we right now have a system set

up where every two to three months we'll rotate the art out of the hallways and we'll be wiping the halls and hanging up new art with the information about the artists. just e-mail me and that is rabbi mark m@gmail.com and we'll have a conversation about their art. >> rabbi mark as in mark. >> mark m@gmail.com. >> and can musicians contact you? >> certainly musicians and those in performing arts. we'll be doing science magic' well so anything programming interesting, we'll encourage people to come out. >> wonderful. so this is available to the neighborhood itself but folks all around. >> the neighborhood, san francisco, visitors to san francisco. the it is it is hopefully a unique opportunity for the jewish community to build a new coffee space. i got interested in this because i looked for one and

found it common in churches. there is a coffee ministry and they have along with the synagoge and i looked for the jewish world yet and haven't seen it yet as something popular and gaining momentum so i hope this is something that other people will enjoy as well. >> it is a wonner d full paradine to play around with. >> it is. >> just playing with the entrepreneur ship, moving it forward, is it the kind of thing that will be xoom part of the culture of the synagoge itself? >> that is a good question. my hope is that the synagoge and coffee shop will work together as a team, but i also am keeping it as a separate space. a lot of people association it with prayer and hopefully the coffee shop can be a different place, serving a different

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