good morning. my name is chris and i'm the chief digital officer of the archdiocese of san francisco. i have a couple of wonderful guests here. father john is knox me and father anthony who is the director of development at the arc decency of san francisco. we'll look at archdiocese of san francisco and look at some of the practical things the administrative things, and the responsibilities, but the why behind that, so father piterit, both of you, welcome, very much. >> great to be here. >> it is great to have you here

and it is great to give people a chance to take a look inside the archdiocese of an fran. people drive by beautiful architect year in san francisco. they don't think of how this all work, all of the catholic parishes working together and seeming to be on the same page and to take care of all of the practical challenges that come, especially in san francisco with retro fitting the schools and all that stuff. you guys are some of the main people that help make that happen so it is great to have a chance to speak with you to realize not only the importance of what you do but the reason why you do it. i want to start with you, you have spent many years teaching at fordham university. tell us about that experience. you made a decision to live in the student housing. >> first of all, tell what you throughout. >> i taught economics.

i did a dock trait -- doctorate in economics. living in the resi hall is not unusual. you're supposed to interact with the students and you do things with them. that was always fun. i always enjoyed that. >> that was how many years you taught tlg there. >> i was there for 12 years and then i moved on to administration. i went to marquette university in milwaukee and then down to loyola university in chicago and i was there for eight years as president and then i started an institute try to do catholic education even better and that ultimately, those stepping stones led you to saint patrick seminary and the archdiocese of san francisco. >> that's correct. that's correct. >> father anthony, tell us about your work at the archdiocese. let's get right into the

development. just a quick summary. what is development? what when people hear that they kind of know what that is. >> when they hear the term development they think fund raising and raising money for the archdiocese and that is what we do. but what i would like people to think more carefully is the needs of the archdiocese to run the chancery but also the ways that we can be christ to the world. we help to coordinate the annual appeal, raise funds for tuition assistance and such. >> kids in the mission district, from neighborhoods and families that would like to be able to go to a catholic school here in the archdiocese in san francisco but they don't have that -- enough of the resources financially. this is the kind of thing that helps with that whole process. >> certainly. that is not our main focus at the moment. although we are one of the reasons i'm in the position i'm

in is to go for major gifts and we have certain initiatives including both tuition assistance but also catholic identity. we want to really make sure we have strong catholic schools and archdiocese. >> i would imagine it is pretty helpful to have a pope named saint francis here in the archdiocese of san francisco. you know, maybe that brings people's eyes open a little more when they start hearing about, i would like to hear more about the catholic church. i like that guy. that is what i hear. i like that guy. so. >> actually the archbishop has invited the pope to come to san francisco. >> i wasn't sure whether he has. >> i don't know how realistic he is. he will only be here for a short period of time but the name francis and francis make sense. maybe not this time around but maybe in the future. >> it is exciting to hear the

archbishop made that invitation. a lot of people were putting the two together. we'll talk more when we come back. we're talking, and both are working behind the scenes at the archdiocese of san francisco making sure everything is running and reminding people of why we are doing all of this. good morning it is mosaic. i'm chris lieford, we'll be right back.

. good morning. welcome to mosaic. my name is chris lyford. i'm here with father anthony who is the director of the development at the archdiocese

and we're going to get a chance to get a glimpse inside the workings, sort of the behind the scenes thing, the practical things, but also the why of what we do, spreading the gospel of jesus in the archdiocese of san francisco. you're a vicar of the administration and moderator of the kyrie. can you explain what those things mean? >> i can. i want to explain to people where we are. a lot of people don't know where it is. we're kitty corner to the cathedral. right across the way, i see it from my window every day. >> right so we're right there. the vicar for administration moderator of the kyrie is a big mouthful. if i have to explain what it is in normal terms is i'm the chief operating officer, so in a corporation i would be the chief

operating officer and the archbishop would be the chief executive officer. so my whole focus is on doing what he wants, but then also serving the parishes. that is the main objective of what takes place in the chancery is support operations for the parishes in areas of human resources and finance and making sure everything is done properly and out reach to young adults to a grieving parent. many different areas. to support the each parish and there are approximately 90 parishes. >> 93 parishes. >> which entails marine county, san francisco county and san mateo counties. that is the gio graph call county. we have the some area what rural. but all of them have needs that are similar. the pastoral needs, if the needs to educate the young people. and the practical needs to make

sure people are using good practices to balance the budget and so on and so forth. >> i think also, one of the things that is exciting for me and the people that work in the chancery, the archbishop has a vision. he really is, wants to reform the church, and he wants to use some fund mental ways in which we do that. one of which is good lit gaechl which is a -- liturgy which is appealing to people. the involvement of people in the parish both through their prayer and their volunteer activities, and also making sure that we get the christian message, the catholic message in ways that people can respond fully to that. so we make the spirit even more possible in their lives. >> now, those, so you're helping facilitate the objectives and the vision of the archbishop of san francisco, the chief

shepherd and you mentioned the three things, liturgy, the active involvement in the parish of all of the parishoners to the extent that they can help and also the preaching and leadership in the parish. >> yeah. >> so what are some examples of connected areas inside an average parish? what is an example of something that you would be really eager to support with regard to ministry. >> the very common one that naps parishes whether they have a school or not a school is they have people who work in the parish house and all those, we have to make sure that we follow not only california law but san francisco law, employment law, which is actually quite complex and the neem parishes usually don't have the resources the time or the interest to do that so we have people in our office

who stay in contact with them and whenever there are issues that develop or they want to hire someone new or they're having difficulty with someone. we send someone out to meet with them and see what we can do to help them along. that is more in the running, that running of the parish. and we also have a person in liturgy that works with the parishes on developing good lit gaechl. i know the archbishop would like to do more of. that is a way of attracting more people, especially younger people back to the church which is a great challenge and then everything that he does at the seminary for educating and developing our priests. we have a group, a very impressive group of young priests coming out. >> i agree. very exciting. the two to be ordained this year, i've known personally for many years, one was inning in my

high school morality class. these local guys, really good guys. very exciting times. very exciting times for the archdiocese of san francisco. we'll talk with you, father anthony when we come back. you're listening to mosaic. my name is chris lyford. we'll be back shortly.

. good morning. welcome to mosaic my name is chris lyford. i'm here talking with a few people that are working behind the scenes. they only came out because i asked them too. usually they don't want to blow their own horn. they just want to do their work

which is really a ministry and give glory to god. i'm talking about father john and father anthony and father john is the vicar for administration for the archdiocese for san francisco and father anthony is the director for development. thank you for letting us know where the archdiocese is. it is right at gary and goff street across from the cathedral at saint mary's. father anthony, i want to talk about the whole, the vision and mission of development and in particular, what your initiatives are. i mean, you just started this particular position, kind of picking up and keeping the momentum going. what are the kinds of things development office does here in the archdiocese and what is the vision? >> sure. let's start with the bigger picture. the vision, and stewardship in particular. you think about the role of

every human being and the choices we have and the ability to help others. we have a deep need to feel and have gratitude and be prepared to give back. the context of what development does is to make that more, make people more aware of. that make us more aware of all that we've been given tendon provide ways for people to give appeared ways for people to specific areas that they can give. practically, the development office has been focussed the last few years on the annual repeal and also on the police retirement lunchon. -- priest retirement luncheon. we're looking for major gifts, looking to simple apply fy the annual appeal lift. we had a very successful luncheon this year. my job is to the not look for

money we already have but to go and look for new donors, see people who have capacity and desire to support the kinds of things the archbishop would like us to support. >> to continue staying connected with all of those people who each year give their little part, collections, various ways that we can tithe as catholics and also to bring the resources in that we need for those more significant. >> and another thing i would like to highlight is it has become more and more clear, the need that elderly in particular have to put their finances in order so we're trying to be of as much assistance as we can be for parishes who need estate lawyers to help people however they want to give their estates that they do it in an ordered way and they're aware of certain laws and ways to do this so we can assist them. it is one of the ways the

chancery can assist. >> one of the things i can add too, chris is i did my graduate work at one of the ivy's and what struck me there was how grateful these students were when they graduated and after they graduated, really, the ivy, that sdool school became their religion and they were enormously generous, enormously. of course they often times dpram families of means, but we know there are people of the catholic faith who are of means who are generous by disposition, but think more, a little bit of their high schools and colleges if they are catholic high schools or colleges that's fine. but we also want them to think of the church. this is a great evangelization effort that has been going on and we need resources to carry

that forward. >> that point of contact for families that the church is, batism, marriages, the need for grief ministry. consolation. that whole reality. i think that is a huge opportunity that we can acknowledge and support and this is what that is. >> father anthony other perspectives before we go to the break? >> primarily we're here to be of service to service to the church. and to help people to understand and to be grateful for it and to provide resources for the church. >> and i just think of everywhere from, for example, what are some of the larger and what are some of the smaller parishes in this approximately three county archdiocese? >> what are some of the names?

>> peter and paul, saint vincent, saint matthew in san mateo. these are things that people, oh, i may know that parish and some of the smaller ones like, this is our lord on dell street in san francisco. >> and sacred heart. quite diverse. >> there are so many points of contact for families and the church is always there and we're inviting people to help us to continue to always be there as we've been for them. >> we're trying to emphasize the annual appeal. your participation is both at the parish level and at the arc decency level, so -- archdiocese level because both have to be functioning well. >> we'll talk more about that and a little bit about the francis effect on this when we

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. hi. welcome to mosaic. my name is chris lyford. we've been having a great conversation with two wonderful people and priests of the archdiocese of san francisco working behind the scenes and the important areas of structure and support for the archdiocese of san francisco. father john piterit and father anthony john pietro. we've been talking about the development of the archdiocese and really, all of this is for the sake of the mission of the gospel of jesus christ. that mission of the love of jesus christ and there is a lot going on always in the church to help foster that mission. for example, folks, you may have seen on the news recently about

the sinnod on the family in -- synod on the family in rome it is a series of meetings and a couple of major meetings to talk about how can we evangelize a family in a more vibrant way. so let's talk about that. i would like to have each of you just kind of, your thoughts about the synod. >> i'll say a few things. the two things i would emphasize is that the pope, who is a jesuit had said he wanted to shake things up. he certainly has done with the extraordinary synod. he really got all of these cardinals talking and some what disagreeing with one of another. we have to see how that shakes out and it has some people upset. but he has shaken things up. the other thing i want to point out about the francis is he is

an effective, sound byte communicator. he continues to say things almost daily that get world attention. this is a year and a half after he was elected pope. so there are things that people find about him that are very attractive. and i think those are two important things to keep in context. >> t. >> and it is striking, coming up on two years, that people aren't tired of this pope and the principles he is enunciating. these are not new but some how his being, his wainkarn -- way of incarcinating christ's message is being heard. it is a striking moment. sure there are people upset with the way he is doing certain

things but he has the attention of world whether it is muslim yoj and family life. >> he is speaking with his actions. and -- >> and also it will be interesting for me to speak with the archbishop. he has been over in rome and barcelona and england. when he was in rome, he stayed with cardinal burke. >> that's right? >> and cardinal burke is someone who was removed and put in another office. he is still a cardinal. and he spoke up and said that the pope has to be clear on some of these major issues. all of the major issues. but it is going to be interesting to see what the archbishop learned from cardinal burke and it is true that i saw one of the weekly li newspapers commend burke for speaking up. you have to pay for in the end

if you hold it back. he did speak up on it too. >> great. you get the feeling more to come. so i think people are tune inning more to the catholic websites and saying by the way, the website is sfrdiocese.org if you should want to see what is going on. i want to make sure we show that to the folks that can understand. there is an e-mail address. e-mail info too. a few last words, let's start with you. >> let's words for the show? >> yeah. >> i think this is an exciting time. it is a difficult time for catholics but if you think particularly on the question of marriage. there are few human beings that haven't been touched by divorce and we're trying to understand better how christ would have us live compassionately within a fallen world and bring hope to those in situation that's are difficult for them and their families. i think pope francis embodies

this hope. it is a lot to promise. we'll see how it plays outgoing forward but it is an exciting tim john? >> if ice around. he would certainly be -- if christ were around, he certainly would be saying go and sin no more but he would do it in a loving way. >> beautiful. >> thank you so much, fathers, for being here on mosaic. i freesht and you're in our prayers -- i appreciate it and you're in our prayers. thank you for being here too. we'll see you next time on mosaic. .

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