hello and welcome to mosaic. my name is tom birk. i have marching orders here. we have vicki evans. we have the founder of the walk for life west coast. now in the seventh year. that will be january 22. it will be huge. vicki, cpa by day. by day and night, pro-life person and directs that activity for the archdiocese of san francisco. and you are a pro-life person. you get into telephone booths. you come out super heroes. everybody knows who you are in that world. everybody loves you and for the great work you do. let's talk about the walk for life west coast. now in the seventh year.

and you are expecting 35 or 40,000 people? >> you might cause a traffic jam. >> that is an understatement. the police do love us because we are supportive and we obey the rules. we're expecting to be larger. this is the seventh year. we started at 7500 people the first year. it was a shock to us back then. every year, we have grown. last year, -- obviously we don't know for sure. probably around 35,000 people. and if this continues at that pace, it looks like we will have even more people. >> people can find out about this at walk for life wc.com. walk for life west coast. >> all of the information is

there. the time, the speakers, and what will happen. there is great footage of past events. if you want to get a feel for what is going to happen, everything is there. >> what have you learned over the years? the one thing i think about is disneyland. disneyland always keeps you moving. they have everything figured out. what have you learned about a big event like this? what has made it better and made it flow and work for you over the years? >> it has kind of become routine. we are very happy about that. one of the main things that i love about it is that people have made it their own. there are so many people in different cities around california and even reno. i am constantly shifting off flyers. they are out there distributing the flyers. they are talking about it in their parishes and getting buses to come. what i love is -- the

promotion part -- the first few years, i had to do a lot. i work in marketing. there was always promoting. promoting, promoting. in the last couple of years, we have not had to do it as much because people have made it their own. that is a huge satisfaction for us to see that. people love the event that much. and they are looking forward to it. they want all of their friends and family to come. >> and everybody who is there wants to be there. >> that is right. >> and it is walk for life wc.com. >> that is correct. >> i am going to put you on the spot. tell us a story. tell us about somebody that comes from afar. somebody who has taken this under their wing. >> i will tell you a story. this year, for the first time, there has been a young lady who has come with her family from san diego. i think they are from san diego -- anyway, she single-handedly

decided to go out and do fundraising. she did everything on her own to start a youth rally right after the walk. they rented fort mason with the help of vicki and the archdiocese. they rented the whole building. >> so she felt so inspired by the walk to make it even more special for young people, that they have their own speakers and music. i think they even have food and vendors. it is going to be right there at the end of the walk. so people can finish the walk and walk right into the youth rally. it is free. people can come and go there. so that is a huge success story for us. because somebody was that inspired by the walk that they wanted to prolong it. >> and they added that demographic, the younger people. some people get the idea this is an old fogey thing. but not at all. >> not at all. if they go to our website,

there is a video. you can see the crowd. the majority of the crowd is young people. we are so proud of that. >> so walk for life wc.com. what kind of success do you think you have had? >> it is such hard work for us that there are times when you feel like there is so much to do. but it is because of these successes and the feedback we get from people. everybody who have come says, i am coming back next year and bringing my family and friends. they feel empowered to do the pro-life work. it is so inspiring. we keep plugging along. >> it is a walk for life wc.com. vicki evans and eva montagne. we will be back on mosaic.

welcome back to mosaic. my name is tom birk. we are here talking about -- pro-life people, eva montagne and vicki evans. vicki is a marketing manager and is a founder of the walk for life west coast, www.walkforlifewc.com. you can get the information there. and a cpa by day. he dropped the pencil at night. you are the director of pro- life activities for the archdiocese of san francisco. we're here to talk about -- we want to talk to you both about this. i want to focus with vicki right now on a film that is available

called, eggs-application. it is about how young women are making their eggs available from money. >> and industry that has been around for a long time, we're finding that a lot of young women, especially ages 21 up till 29, are being solicited to sell their eggs to couples who are involved in in vitro fertilization because obviously donor eggs are needed sometimes. >> it is not something where you just show up in a doctors office. you have to be prepared. i have heard this compared to the drug processes that young women undergo. same as fattening geese. >> that is a terrible analogy. but the truth is, the women have to take massive doses of hormones in order to hyper stimulate their ovaries to produce more than the normal

one or two eggs produced every month and a normal cycle. so the hyperstimulation of the ovaries sometimes can cause as many as a couple of dozen eggs. and one case, a woman produced 50 or 60 eggs. these are then surgically extracted. and the film, eggs-ploitation, that we have been showing, shows us. >> how long as the process from the time they start the drugs until the eggs are harvested? >> it takes several months. they have to take the drugs. then the follicles are produced within their bodies for the eggs. then there is a surgical procedure that is supposedly minor. but can have some very real repercussions. >> some get paid for this. >> depending. they go on college campuses. this is advertised a lot on college campuses. they can get up to $100,000. these are women who are tall,

beautiful, blonde, high sat scores. the type of women that people want to for -- want for this. >> we will look at a clip right now. >> today, the fertility industry in america is an approximately $6.5 billion a year enterprise. operating with little regulation or oversight. almost 70% of assisted reproductive technology, with only a small percentage resulting in live births. and yet, the risks associated with the powerful drugs women have to take to cause super ovulation are real. the egg donor is unique in that she is not infertile. she is not sick. yet, she assumes all of these risks in order to help someone else. there are three stages prior to a surgery to collect the eggs.

at each stage, the woman takes drugs to artificially coordinate the procedure. first, synthetic hormones are self ingested by the woman to induce menopause, stopping the ovarian functions while allowing the physician to control the timing of the release of aches. >> i talked to a nurse on the phone who taught me how to give myself injections. the medicine arrived on my doorstep ups. i remember getting very squeamish and asking my boyfriend at the time if you would give me the shots. >> second, the woman is super on related to bring about the maturation of multiple eggs. >> you are obligated to follow the exact dosing that the doctor tells you to do. everything that happens to you is a chain of events were medical risks are not taken into account. they did not look at the data effectively. they just kept pushing me on. >> third, the woman takes a

final injection to release from the ovaries, the mature eggs which will be extracted during a minor surgical procedure. >> at this point, i had an ultrasound. it showed that i had the follicles growing. when i questioned, should i be taking less of the medication, i was told that you have to continue. or they did some work to make sure that the eggs were ready. i got an e-mail from a nurse that said one of your hormone levels is much higher then we expected. we need to test it again. i was expecting some concern at that time regarding whether or not i should continue were they should reduce the amount of medication they were giving me. the answer was, no. we can't jeopardize -- we can't stop that the stage and jeopardize the cycle. continue doing what you are doing and we will keep

watching. >> short term risks of egg donation include risk associated with surgery and anesthesia as well as risks associated with taking a daily hormone and injections, to cause super ovulation. the most common and serious short-term risks is a very and hyperstimulation syndrome. >> with this syndrome, it is the result of the ovary being put into hyper drive. it is producing a lot of eggs. and when you do that to a

persons body, it also produces other changes in the body which can actually, in some people, can have the risk of death. >> in june of 2009, new york state became the first in the united states to offer compensation to young women who donate their eggs for scientific research. under this debated read -- legislation, women could make up to $60,000 in exchange for their eggs. >> now i see a shift. all of a sudden we have money injuring him, in terms of research. and we see young women being looked at, as a market for eggs. a woman has become a walking ovary. and ovary factory, an egg factory. i think women should not be treated that way. >> why do you need more eggs? >> because we need more cells. one study says, as many as 100 eggs might be necessary to do

-- to obtain one embryonic stem cell. the number of eggs that would be required just to treat 20 million people in the united states alone who have diabetes -- if you do even 10 eggs per patient, you are talking about 200 million eggs.

welcome back to mosaic. my name is tom burt. today we are speaking with the pro-life advocates eva montagne and vicki evans. they have a huge berth in the pro-life world. at least in the bay area and in the nation.

i think you are well known. people know who you are. we just saw a clip from the film, eggs-ploitation. women are being paid serious sums of money to increase egg production through a chemical process. and then they are harvested and used for in vitro fertilization and in stem cell research. i think we can look at this too -- put on your cpa have. they get huge sums of money. $60,000. you said, as high as $100,000. it is a business. you get a 1099, don't you? >> laugh back -- it is a business. >> i don't know if you get a 1099. >> what you saw is five minutes of a 40 minute film called eggs-ploitation. this is a fellow we have been showing at different universities. we will be showing it in the high schools. we want these women to know that

this is not an easy procedure. this is not just a simple way for them to make a few bucks to pay for college. >> we want to go and talk about the walk for life. but maybe we can talk about how this broadens the pro-life effort. it is moving away from, simply abortion -- or just abortion. some people tag it that way. this is a more broad look at pro-life and how things are going on, that can help others, besides the unborn. and i right or wrong? >> you are absolutely right. when you are talking about embryos and research, and extracting symbols from -- stem cells from embryos, that is killing an embryo the same as an abortion is killing an embryo. so you are taking the abortion back to an earlier stage.

and pro-life also takes in everything at the end of life too. it is just the vulnerable. and those without voices. >> let's talk to both of you about the walk for life. >> we have known each other for a long time. >> the walk for life, west coast. it is www.walkforlifewc.com. you can get all of the information. tell us about it. we will take a break and come back again. tell us more. give us another story. we have testimony from women who have gone through this procedure. you have testimony from people who have suffered. >> so the personal testimony means what? >> every single year, from year one, for the walk, we have made sure that every single rally had at least one or two personal testimonies of women who have gone through abortions and what that has done to their lives and their families lives in the communities lives.

it does affect everyone around them. 's -- testimonies are very important. as we saw in the clip, it makes all the difference in the world when you put a face to the problem. >> we're grateful for your testimony and for the work you do. how do people reach you at the archdiocese? >> the website is ff life and justice. >> and the walk for life website is www.walkforlifewc.com. and don't forget about eggs-ploitation.com. we will be right back.

>> welcome back to mosaic. i'm tom birk. we're speaking with eva montagne and vicki evans, pro-life

advocates. we wanted to talk before we get too far out of the loop. we just have a little bit of time left. there is a way for people to get involved. it is called, catholic legislative network. vicki, can you tell us about that? >> the california catholic conference of bishops put together this legislative network so that everyone out there can be notified when there are important pro-life issues or about other issues coming up in the california legislature or at the federal government level. and it is a matter of getting everyone's e-mail address and sending them bullet times when there is something of importance that comes up. >> and there is a way to register. >> you can go to the california catholic website which is ca catholic.org. you can register their for the weekly bulletins and the special bulletins. >> so that is kind of a

pro-life church google alert? >> [ laughter ] it sort of is. we know that if we can get everyone together, we will have a large voice in the legislative process. more than one or two people. >> and you have a big push for this, this year. people responded, did they? >> yes. we asked that the parishes find out people. i'm not sure what the numbers were in the san francisco archdiocese. but statewide, we got hundreds of thousands of people registered. >> i want to ask each of you. i want you to exhort us toward responding to this need in the pro-life era. eva, we will start with you. what can we do? >> that is exactly why we have the walk for life. people come and get rejuvenated from walking and seeing all the people and talking to people. they go back and form groups and clubs. it is very important. you can talk about this stuff unless you get involved.

you can't say how horrible things are, if you don't pick up the phone. it is as simple as having a meeting in your house are making a couple of phone calls. or standing up for you faith or for life when the situation warrants. that is what we try to do with the walk. stand up and say, this is what we believe. this is what is right. come join us. >> so it is www.walkforlifewc.com. there is information too about the interface -- inner-faith. >> and the oakland walk. >> are you the webmaster? >> i am the webmaster. >> we would love to have the people in the parishes get involved. we would love to have respect life are presented as. some parishes have them and some do not.

it is nice and we can get a little group in each parish. because then there is support. if we can do that, we can span out over the whole bay area and get information out. >> that is great. eva, tell us, how does this help beyond the pregnant woman and the unborn? >> it helps because the support is there for them. if people know that there is the need -- that is the focus of the walk. women in need. and the fact that there is help available out there. so if we can get that out there and get people helping others, especially those in need -- crisis pregnancies and things like that, it would change the face of abortion. >> it is the walk for life, generally 22nd, here and san francisco. you are expecting up to about 40,000 people. it is www.walkforlifewc.com. >> i am expecting 50,000 people. >> and they are coming to your house afterwards. >> [ laughter ] >> thanks for joining us on mosaic. please remember all the wonderful programs you heard

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