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>> john: today on "face the nation." house speaker john boehner joins us for a rare sunday interview. >> by design there's rambunctious senate. >> john: that may be understatement after friday's messy effort to fully fund the department of homeland security. we'll ask the speaker what's next for the funding, how he plans to wrangle some of those rambunctious republicans and about his controversial invitation to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we'll hear from senator dianne feinstein top democrat on intelligence committee. mike huckabee. we'll have analysis on the u.s.-israel relationship and panel on politics. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs
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good morning, bob is off today we want to welcome the speaker of the house john boehner to the broadcast. mr. speaker, i want to start with the vote on friday night to keep department of homeland security open. when republicans won their big victories in the senate and house in november there was promise that there would be no more of these crises, fiscal fishtailing from crisis to crisis, no more cliff-hanger moment. but there was things were supposed to be different they look the same, why? >> well, because the president took actions with regard to immigration that were far beyond what the law allows him to do. if you remember, john, that the president said 22 times that he couldn't do what he eventually did. i made it clear we're going to do everything we could to block the president's executive over reach. that's the basis of the problem that we're trying to deal with.
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and senate refused to pass a bill senator mcconnell tried for almost a month four times senate democrats blocked ability to even debate the bill. so i thoughts the resolution to fund the department of homeland security was ample time to have senate house conference which we've asked for on friday night. and more time for the courts to make a decision about whether they're going to keep the stay in order to block the president. >> john: you had a plan. you had plan to take on the president with three-week effort but that was circumvented. we know about the problem with the democrats, this is what your allys say. you have congressman nunez who is the chairman of the intelligence committee saying, quote, small group of phony conservative members who have no credibility and no political
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strategy to stop obama lawlessness, he said they were what caused the problem that afforded your plan, people who want to take it to obama undermine ability to take it to obama, peter king said this group has no concept of reality. can you run a house with that kind of group in your membership? >> we do have members who disagree from time to time over the tactic that we decide to employ. but remember, republicans are united in this idea that the president far exceeded his constitutional authority. and we all want to do things to stop the president from illicit activity. >> john: you are all working to do the same thing but they are -- undermining him. >> we get in argument over tactics from time to time. the goals were all the same. >> john: did they have plan that could have succeeded signed by the president that would have gotten them with they wanted this small group you say that basically undermined your effort? >> not that i know. >> >> was it fruitless?
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>> >> house of representatives as said house is rambunctious place, 435 members. a lot of members that have different ideas of what with we should and shouldn't be doing. >> john: can you lead those members? >> i any so. i'm not going to suggest it's easy. because it's not. but remember what is causing this. it's the president of the united states overreaching that's not just on immigration. 38 times he made unilateral changes to obamacare. many of these i believe far beyond his constitutional authority to do so. so the frustration in the country represented through the frustration of our members has people scared to death that the president is just running the country right off the cliff. >> john: what is next? nancy pelosi said you made a promise, what would happen next that bill that would fund the department of homeland security for the rest of the year would be brought up in the house. did you make that promise? >> the promise i made to miss pelosi is the same promise i
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made to republicans that we follow regular order. the bill is back in the senate we've asked for conference with the senate. and the senate majority leader at the time, may of 2013 said, i quote, we aren't afraid to try to resolve our differences in a conference committee. this has been the custom of the senate and the house of representatives for almost 200 years. we want to go to conference with the senate. now they have made clear that they don't want to go to conference. that they're going to have a vote when they say vote in fact not to go to conference this bill may be coming back to the house. >> john: what is he's rear to deal with democrats or members of your own party. >> i like dealing with both parties. >> john: let's switch to the visit from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he has an election coming up in two weeks, he is coming because he opposes this deal he thinks the president is working out with iran. there has been a lot of
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political heartburn abut this invitation that you offered to him. has that heartburn has that dust-up undermined the prime minister's ability to make his case? >> i don't believe so at all. the demand for seats in the house, the demand for tickets i've never seen anything like it. everyone wants to be there. what i do wonder is why the white house feels threatened because the congress wants to support israel and wants to hear what a trusteddal high has to say. it has been frankly remarkable to me to the extent to which over the last five or six weeks the white house has attacked the prime minister, attacked me for wanting to hear from one of our closest allies. >> john: has the white house damaged the relationship? >> the animosity between the white house and the prime minister is no secret here in this town. >> john: they made the worse? >> they certainly made it worse over the last five or six weeks.
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the threat coming from iran and iranians have nuclear is threat to the region, threat to the united states and threat to the rest of the world. this is a serious issue. we're not going to resolve this issue by sticking our heads in the sand. the prime minister can talk about this threat i believe better than anyone. the united states congress wants to hear from him so do the american people. >> john: but there have been some republican foreign policy experts, james baker said this might backfire, robert kagan writes, the cost is too high. >> i don't believe so. congress has every right to do this. the president very few words to the threat of radical islamic terrorism during state of the union speech almost said nothing about the iranians. these are messages that we need to hear. these are facts that we need to hear. and i'm glad prime minister
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accepted my invitation. >> john: do you trust president obama when he says iran doesn't have america weapons. >> i trust what he says. what we all heard what they have leaked out about these negotiations it doesn't strike me that the deal is going to be good enough. >> john: democrats -- this is a concern by both democrats and republicans. >> john: that's right. there were lot of democrats very strongly in support much israel but now this has become another partisan back and forth has democratic support for israel receded as a result of this? >> absolutely not. israel is one of our most trusted allies. there have been bipartisan support in the congress for israel. i'm going back some radio years. that relationship is going to continue between congress and israel, between united states and israel. really only conflict here is
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wean the white house and israel. >> john: let me switch now to the issue of isis. you have occasionally supported this president on the foreign policy issues, what is your view of his strategy for combating isis? >> let's go back to the beginning. i do believe we only have one commander in chief at a time. and when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to international threats. i believe that it's important for americans to speak with one voice. so i go out of my way to be supportive of the president's foreign policy when i think he's right. when it comes to the issue of isis, the president said that he wants to destroy and eliminate isis. that's what the goal is. then he outlines a strategy that nobody believes will accomplish the mission. then he asks for an authorization of the use of military force where he actually asks for less authority than what he has today undercurrent
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and previous authorizations to use military force. i don't see how he can resolve these differences. we need a robust strategy to take on these terrorists. very serious matter. we're over there poking them in the nose. we're not really there to defeat and destroy. we don't have a plan that will do that. so we need a robust strategy to take them on and i believe that we need then to give the president a robust authorization to use the authority of the commander in chief to eliminate this threat. >> john: if you were advising the president what would you do? >> boots have to be on the ground. >> john: more u.s. boots on the ground? >> some 3,000 boots on the ground. >> john: more? >> not suggested that we don't. >> john: but more? >> i'll let the military commanders make that decision. the congress shouldn't do it.
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put -- but the president shouldn't tell our enemies what we're not going to do. whether they're iraqi military personnel, whether we can bring jordanians and other allies their boots in there. but we have to have some people in there providing advice and those are boots on the ground. >> john: let me ask you a final question. do you like your job? >> friday wasn't all that fun. most days. >> john: why wasn't friday fun? >> it was just messy. i'm not in to mess. i enjoy being in ledge sleigh stiff body. i enjoy all the personalities and i've got a lot of them. >> john: you had a little experience with personalities growing up. >> grew up in a bar. everything -- lot of lessons i learned to do my job i learned growing up in that bar. >> john: speaker john boehner, thanks very much. >> nice to see you. >> john: we'll be right back in a minute to hear from top democrat.
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>> dickerson: we're back with senator dianne feinstein. i want to start with the 'he sass nation of boris nemtsov. gunned down this the street. what is the intelligence committee know about this, if anything. >> not very much so far. and that's somewhat of a problem, it's very difficult to get certain kinds of intelligence with respect to russia. but i think it speaks on its face as to what it is. someone very much opposed to the opposition, this is a leader of the opposition to putin i think a distinguished dissident not your average person on the street, but someone who actually served in the cabinet of boris nemtsov. spoke fluent english or was prepared to take on russia with respect to the ukraine and what russia has really been doing
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there and was shot down in cold blood. >> dickerson: the question question about his assassination whether there is a connection to vladimir putin. >> i think there is. whether putin authorized it, whether he didn't, whether he knew about it or whether it was his friend or some of his military doing this, we'll wait and see what the investigation. but i think it comes at very bad time too. because the armistice is just beginning to be observed that is minsk ii effect february 15. the draw back of the heavy equipment, the troops are taking place. what i seen reported is that it is beginning to happen. we want it to happen. the only solution there is to work out a solution between the government. and so this certainly presents an obstacle.
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and i hope that mr. putin will step up. i hope he will see that some diplomacy can prevail that he can work out a solution with the ukrainian leadership. >> dickerson: i'd like to switch to talking about isis, jihad john was identified last week as muhammad emwasi this is the person in that chilling, the execution nor in that chilling hostage video. what do we know about where he is? >> well, i don't know about where he is that's for sure. clearly he is in syria -- it could be syria or iraq somewhere, we don't know. >> dickerson: should the u.s. be going after him specifically? >> oh, yes he's a target. there should be no question about that. >> dickerson: what would dough we about his he upbringing sort of middle class upbringing, what does that tell us about what is being recruited to fight for isis? >> that's the difficult question. what it tells us is that there
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are many young people, you can see this by the number of tweets on twitter, who are so disaffected, even youngsters that have parents that have done quite well in this country, which is somewhat surprising, whether they feel rejected sociallyl they feel they don't have an opportunity, whether they feel this country is anti-muslim, which it is not. i don't know. but it's clearly created a major problem. now a very disturbing thing for me to hear is that young girls are going. and that they are assured of a home, somebody else's home, but a home and can buy what they need there. this is very distressing. >> dickerson: let me ask you about israel and the prime minister's visit you're going to attend the speech. >> yes, i am. >> dickerson: is that proceed vical? >> i'm going to go. i'm going to listen quite respectfully i'm not going to
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jump up and down which is likely to be the posture in that room. i am very concerned by that speech. i went to the speech in 2011, i didn't believe it was helpful then and i don't believe it's going to be helpful now. i hope that the prime minister will address what he believes will happen if there is not an agreement. or if there is an agreement between the other nations including the big powers, russia china u.k., france, germany. and just united states that is doing this. what happens then to sanctions if we were to put on additional sanctions and the rest of the nations would not abide by them. >> dickerson: i'd like to have you listen to something charlie rose sat down with the national security advise other susan rice, here is what she said about the speech. >> there has now been injected a degree of partisanship, which is not only unfortunate i think
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it's destructive of the fabric of the relationship. >> destructive? >> well, i think it is a lot of crockery as erin miller said, has been broken. and that's true. the basis of the relationship which is a support for independent state of israel. jewish democratic state will remain. there's no question about that. but i think the full page ad in the "new york times" yesterday is really beyond the pale. this is what -- >> dickerson: why beyond the pale? >> it's susan ricin a position as if she condones general side. that's the impact with the skulls next to her face. and she is the president's national security advisor. you may differ with her but there's no justification for an ad like that. >> dickerson: was there anything -- using the word destructive, john kerry mentioned that prime minister netanyahu supported the war in
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iraq, is administration escalating this a little bit too for relationship that has to exist after the speech? >> i don't think so. i think it's getting escalated on its own. and we'll hear what the prime minister has to say. and the speech in 2011, had a lot of harsh red lines, would not accept what had been accepted all along the border with some trade land. so he threw out the gauntlet. if he throws out the gauntlet again i'd like to know what they intend to do if there is no an agreement. >> dickerson: we'll all be watching. senator feinstein, thank you so much. we'll be back in a minute.
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governor. i want to start with the question of the prime minister's visit to washington. has the relationship between the united states and isreal become another political football is that a problem? >> well, i hope it hasn't. i think it's very important to note that most democrats in the congress as well as i think across the united states, understand the valuable relationship that we had with israel, want to preserve it and keep it and yes, there's some washington politics involved in this. but let's hope and pray it doesn't spill over into a strained relationship with the one reliable ally that we have basically between africa and asia and very important one. >> dickerson: you've been in israel recently, benjamin netanyahu has 'lex in couple of weeks, how much of a role do you think that plays in it? >> i don't really think that that's what's at play here. i had chance to speak with the prime minister when i was there i've been going to israel for 42
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years, first time when i was 17 years old. i felt like i know this country i know many of the people in government many of the people on the streets of israel. the fact is, that they are separating the issue of the election from the existential threat they face from the possibility of iranians have nuclear weapon. and israel is the canary in the coal mine, something happens to israel that's not the end of it that is the beginning. ultimate target would be the united states. enwe need to recognize that value strategic role that israel plays in our own safety, this isn't just about israel. this is about the safety of the united states. >> dickerson: you refer to how many times you've been to israel, you'll be relying on that experience if you run for president. governor scott walker said his experience combating the 100,000 protesters in wisconsin meant that he could do the same in leading the world that was in the contech of a question about isis. is it that simple?
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>> you know i've got enough problems trying to explain my own views without trying to explain someone else's. i'm going to say, i don't know how to respond to what he said. he's the only one who can respond to what that meant. and so i'll just leave it to him. i'll respond to my own rhetoric. >> dickerson: let's get your own rhetoric fired up here on isis, you've said it rattle snack and compared it to a cancer. what would you do to defeat isis. >> first of all we should have been long ago arming the kurds. the most reliable force that we have in the middle east especially in the northern part of iraq. that is willing and ready to fight isis and to do it without american blood being spilled. we have not kept our promise to the kurds. the second thing we should do is make sure that wherever there's an isis target, that we bomb the daylights out of it. we make it unpopular we make it
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very very tenuous for anybody to join isis because we need to let them know they are basically sign on to a death sentence if they want to join this hideous savaged, uncivilized group of people who think it's okay to burn people alive and cut their heads on. but not only to do it, john, what is most despicable they are proud of it. they videotape it. they show us to the world. they want us to see it. that makes it more horrifying. >> dickerson: where are you on the question of boots on the ground, some 2016 candidates are supporting that, u.s. boots. >> we don't leave anything off the table but if they're going to be boots they have to be more than just u.s. boots. boots from come from the saudis, jordanians and others. >> dickerson: how final question, i can't let you go without asking about where you are in your presidential journey, you want to just announce it now? >> let's hold off just a little
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while. we're looking very carefully at the structure that would need to be in place i think decision will be forthcoming i've always said my timetable some time in the spring. and by winter weather we have we're not quite there yet. >> dickerson: leading more towards yes when you left fox news. >> the fact that i left fox news is pretty good indication that i didn't do that just because i enjoyed having saturdays at home. >> dickerson: governor, huckabee, thank you so much for joining us. we'll be right back. in a race, it's about getting to the finish line. in life, it's how you get there that matters most. like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. my doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. so he talked to me about xarelto®. >>xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesn't require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. for a prior dvt i took warfarin, which required routine blood testing and dietary restrictions. not this time.
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